My question is are the phones work phones or personal phones? Are they using personal phones at work? If they are used at work then it's a protected public record. We can look at GPS, text, social media, calls and whatever else the phone was used for, they can pull cell tower data and know exactly who is in the area. That POS ATF knows this, hell they all know this and are dirty AF. I bet this murder is not the worse crime "they" have committed. Where are the FBI and DoJ agents? Didn't the FBI assure us they will crack down on government corruption?
I'm in the UK & following the trial. I Thought there was only 1 Pinocchio, it seems he has relatives working as police, never ever have I heard such BS, & the dog needs to be traced if it is still breathing. A neighbourhood like that, it looks quite nice there will be door bell video, cctv, No cop is going to live in a house that big & not have a security system, ?? And who would kill someone especially a cop in front of a house full of cops ??.
Investigation was negligent from the beginning !No crime scene tape, the owners of the house where he was found dead werent talked to.they never came out of the house!no evidence bags???BOTCHED!Reasonal doubt in my head.
Yeah. Im not saying Karen DIDNT do it. Im just sayin if I was on the jury, Id have some reasonable doubts. And thats....kinda on the cops who investigated. They really fucked it up. If Karen was innocent and this is a coverup, horrifying. But if Karen DID do it, STILL HORRIFYING that they think this is ok conduct. They really didnt handle this case well at all.
@@Rndomness I think a good question for them to have added would've been, is there a specific reason that he did not ask the homeowner's for plastic containers to obtain evidence from their lawn?
That pig like police officer said otherwise thinking solo cups were suitable for evidence collecting why not put in a Tupperware instead what a Moore ron.
“Did you ask for consent to search the Alberts house?” Lank- ABSOLUTELY NOT…… WHATTTTT?????? there is an officer dead or dying or their front lawn…. No witnesses are being clear about what happened, wouldn’t you have more questions for the people inside the house? Maybe… could he have walked in and you didn’t see him? Have you seen a black hat or a sneakers in your house? What about questions after… “wait why are you getting rid of Chloe? Your German shepherd” Or Woah My friend Brian!!! You have lived here for over 20 years!!! Why are you selling your family home??? After ripping up the basement floor!?!?”
The people in the house said that he didn't come in the house so there was no reason to go in the house. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. We didn't get a warrant because we didn't think that there would be probable cause. Tf
@@nuorigin again…. Just take the witness’s word for it? What if Jen didn’t see him go in the house? What about the shoe or hat? What about just asking a good buddy of yours for some good ole fashioned “peace of mind” to just “look around”
@nuorigin right!!! Hell usually they just make up probable cause anyways when they want to get someone and all of a sudden they can't find any with an officer down in the yard 🤔 (insert eyeroll)
The worst thing about this case is the judge worried more about scheduling coffee than being there, always shutting the defense team down, always sustaining all the objectives even helping him object. This is so bias of her. She needs to really step down unless she’s friends with the Albert family too.Too
Her brother is a lawyer and defended someone in the case on other side in past!! The judge is an ahole and so unfair to Karen!! She should have to step down at least in this case!! Free Karen Read!!!!❤❤❤
I agree I can’t believe how rude she is. She said “ let’s move it along.” This is two peoples lives if it takes 10 weeks oh well that’s what it takes to get the evidence out then she needs to deal with it! It’s her job, if she’s bored maybe she should step DOWN!!! She sucks anyway. Karen is not getting a fair trial with this nasty judge.
Imagine there being a dead body on my front yard and the cops don't ask me a Damn thing because I'm sleeping 😂 Poor O'Keefe's family. This is an injustice to them.
@@tigerlilygirl2643 . The cops literally said " ABSOLUTELY NOT" about questioning the criminals in the house and when asked if they served a search warrant: "ABSOLUTELY NOT, THERE WAS NO PROBABLE CAUSE". Pay attention. I guess a dead body on the their lawn doesn't look suspicious to these 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The whole cocktail glass talk. They didn’t know the O’Keefe allegedly left the bar with a glass so why wouldn’t you check the house? They didn’t know where it came from.
It seems odd to me that everyone in that house would conspire to lie. Especially after allegedly they killed him. That seems far fetched. I hope all the people in house are on the stand
@@katrinat.3032 depending on where others were in the house, I can see some of them not even knowing. If they kept John in the basement until the ones who didn't know left and they put him outside after. I am obviously wildly speculating though lol.
I'm just tuning it but based on all the comments here it seems similar to the Murdaugh killings and the situation in their town ~ lots of corruption over the years. It got exposed though through that trial's effect on local news reporting and individual podcasts.
I can’t get over the blood evidence in Solo Cups in a Stop & Shop bag on the sallyport floor ,wide open & exposed for days. If I was johns family I’d be so outraged with the lack of respect for a fellow police officer.
How is evidence of a crime on a front lawn with no motive or murder weapon NOT probable cause to search the residence? This is before Karen was even believed to be a suspect. How is a dead body on a front lawn not probable cause to search the residence? At 9am, the crime scene was still an open and active investigation - but the house wasn't searched? What? Why? How?
Especially with 12 ppl in it that were directly known related associated with the entire matter and “victim 50 feet in front. plus 12 ppl inside , children too maybe? They were TOLD to act dumb and like they were sleeping. LOL what a clumsy pathetic STUNT Fraud this whole thing is.
@@sarasmilesco8551 we’re talking 6:30am… before the police supposedly didn’t know who/what/where/when/how/why. At the very start of the investigation, 11 people inside wasn’t even a factor. When you respond to a crime scene - you secure it and start your investigation. Finding of who was/wasn’t in the house and what they possibly saw comes much later. And several of the 11 people you include in your headcount weren’t interviewed for a year later, so you cannot say the police didn’t enter the house because 11 people never saw him go inside. The morning OJO was found those 11 people weren’t even known. Names and headcount were yet to be accounted for. An unconscious body on a front lawn at 6:30am is 100% probable cause...
I guess what blows my mind is that nobody came out of the house. Oh my goodness I come out of the house if there’s anything going on in my yard, let alone somebody dying in their yard and they didn’t come out of the house. What does that say?!!!!
Absolutely 12 ppl inside and curious children LOL, they intentionally stayed silent acting like nothing occurred or were too sleep. 12 ppl? LOL, not hardly, they were TOLD to stay silent.
I truly believe that in someway the police have covered things up because it involved one of their own. This entire case has been handled wrong on both sides.
Where is the missing shoe? my son was severely bit by his ex-girlfriend’s English bulldog and I promise you the dog bites on his leg. Look absolutely exactly like the marks on John Okeefes arm! And they got rid of their beloved dog that they had for seven years Chloe there’s no doubt in my mind that Chloe attacked this man! To me they have no right to even arrest her. They have nothing on her whatsoever this entire thing if not a cover-up it’s a joke. This is the worst police scene I’ve ever seen in my life.
Because he was killed in a prominent family's home by his supposed friends and fellow officers. Because the prosecutor's office is highly corrupt and in the pocket of said prominent family and friends with said murderous officers. Because if Karen Reed does not go down for this then the prosecutor will be expected to ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOB and prosecute the real murderers and conspirators, and that just cannot happen in this town. Because if Karen Reed does not go down for this then the police will be expected to investigate their own corruption, which also cannot happen. The list goes on as to why the prosecutor keeps pushing forward and it all stinks to high heaven. They hope that because it's a conspiracy and rational people tend to automatically dismiss the idea of conspiracies that they will get away with this. Unfortunately though, in this case, this is very much a conspiracy between the family, the police and the prosecutor's office. This case is horrible and John and Karen deserve so much better. If you live in this town, run. If you think this cannot happen to you, it can. This is despicable.
You mean to tell me a police department doesn’t have a proper procedures! Hello, snowblower what , it snows in Mass every year and your telling me they don’t have a procedure for snow!! They are insane free Karen Read!!
I’m making up Canton evidence kits. 1 A leaf blower 2 A StopandShop paper bag (used) 3 solo cup(6 of). No flashlight, tape, pen, paper, evidence tape , crime scene tape, measuring scales or measuring tape lighting, containment, markers are needed.
The biased judge who is interested how long it’s gonna take the defense to cross examine because she has to get coffee or we shutting them down when they’re getting to the points, always helping the prosecution of object and sustain object and even help them say object when they didn’t say object, this is so pure bias
Truth. The judge summers on Cape cod with the mcabes. The mcabes called her “Aunt Bev” to a journalist. The judges dad or brother represented Chris Albert in his criminal dui homicide case. Major conflict of interest. She refused to recuse herself.
Can we quit saying this police department didn’t process scenes? Perhaps not murder scenes: but what about attempted murder scenes? Robbery scenes? Rape scenes? CPAC wouldn’t respond until the guy died…what if he hadn’t died? Who would have been responsible for handling the scene? CPD. Stop it. Stop defending the indefensible. This police department is indefensible. Horrid.
The snow was coming down they and to improvise in order to collect the blood before more snow came down and they risked losing the evidence all together.
I see alot of pain in her eyes. She has been through alot and officer O'Keefe lost his life and my money is on the ones who rehomed their family dog and sold their house in a hurry as the ones responsible
If the judge is worried about the trial lasting days and weeks, why does she have such short days and such short weeks in court? Miller time? Gotta beat the traffic home?
She is trying to break the stride of defense. The judge summers on Cape cod with the mcabes. The mcabes called her “Aunt Bev” to a journalist. The judges dad or brother represented Chris Albert in his criminal dui homicide case. Major conflict of interest. She refused to recuse herself.
Right! A woman is on trial for MURDER! Something that could potentially send her to prison for LIFE! The amount of time it takes doesn't matter AT ALL! If by some strange occurrence she is convicted, she will easily win on appeal. The problem with that is it costs $$$$$.
@@John-tj4up You're DeLuLu FACTS: Jen McCabe the sister in law googled " How long to die in cold" at 2:37 am‼️ Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️ John had dog scratches on his arms.
Can we talk about these blood drops? If he was there at 1245 am, there would have been an inch or two of snow. His head wound bled at least 3L of blood-that amount would have melted the snow. The blood would be in the dirt. The drops of blood likely came from moving the body to the stretcher. Therefore the body needed to be on the farther side of the drops because from testimony we know they had the stretcher on the street for stability. So they wouldn’t have moved him further into the yard to have to carry him back out. How can no one see these simple easy to spot problems with the facts presented?
@@tigerlilygirl2643 we shall see as the medical examiners have not testified, but head wounds bleed profusely and no where have they stated in the testimony that he bled out into his stomach, and his head wound didn’t bleed as all other head wounds do.
Yes but jeez putting blood evidence in solo cups what about cross contamination, could they not wait on proper crime scene investigators. Bad practice.
Karen will get karma further down the line. Psycho Read drunk to much and anger and jealousy got the better of her. A man died because of her actions. It’s as simple as that.
Where are the actual frensics? Seems like none were sought. The craziest thing to me is that no interviews or investigation was done immediately with those in whose home hed gone that night... And what about that judge⁉️😳
The cops literally said on the stand...of course we didn't go inside the house or talk to them, absolutely not! Omfg are you serious!! Not establishing if the glass matched ones in the house or bar is wild!!
Whooo! Karen Read did not say I Did It, I did it I did it, she said I hit him, I hit him, I hit Him. Also Pay attention to the video of how he was supposedly hit by the left rear side of the SUV against the video and evidence of the damage supposedly creating by the broken rear right tail light. Both tail light according to all the evidence should be broken. Give us real facts not personal feelings please.
the video shows both tail light's WHOLE at a way later time. the passenger may have been cracked due to backing into that car but there were NO PEICES ON THE GROUND. and both lights are whole as she drives away.
Katie McLaughlin didn’t testify to Karen saying “I did it, I did it, I did it.” She claimed Karen said “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him.” Problem is no one else heard this statement. Further she lied about her friendship. She shouldn’t have. Admitting a friendship wouldn’t have been as big of a problem as lying about your friendship. Sadly she was willing to lie which made her testimony questionable at best. Especially given other people there did not report it the same was as she claimed it was said. But now we know why two of the EMT/FFs thought they heard KR say she hit OJO. It’s because Katie opened the closed door and told them that Karen said she hit him. 🤷♀️
@@tigerlilygirl2643 no. Several other people heard her say variations of ‘did I hit him’ ‘could I have hit him?’ And one testified he heard her ask “I hit him?” Not one heard her say “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him” which is what she said in her original statement to Trooper Proctor. Are you watching the trial? We shouldn’t need to clarify these simple facts to you-speech comprehension should not be a problem at this point.
There were only "drops" of blood in the snow. I've seen the photos of the body. He had a large gash on the back of his head. There should be a LOT of blood. Where is all that blood in the snow???????
Put a man that you killed in your house, out in your front yard? If I (or someone in my house) killed someone, I sure as hell would not put them in my front yard. And when Karen, Jen, & Carrie were looking for John, how is it that Karen "saw" him, when Jen & Carrie could barely see anything? Hmmm.......maybe because she knew he was there?
Idk about a mass cover up but I do know that these are a bunch of good ole boys who are used to doing whatever they want, breaking every rule, doing horrid police work with zero accountability, and they found themselves in the wrong case here! Cover up no cover up they have no true case bc of their gross incompetence. This case should be thrown out
The Defense team actually seem to think it's okay. They objected to the first courtroom, so it was switched, and they approved this one. That approval included the seating chart.
So Karen goes back to the Party because John didnt return home. What was the PREARRANGED plan for him to get home IF HE DIDNT HAVE A CAR? No, there was no reason for her to go back UNLESS she had a designated time to pick him up. Does she have text with this info between herself and the dead guy?
This judge is clearly clearly for the prosecution. She needs to step back and see what she’s doing. She’s making herself look bad. She’s just as bad as the police if you ask me, let the defense attorneys do their job Red solo cups??!! not going into the house not asking anybody in the house any questions this is just ridiculous. There’s no way they can find her guilty. Absolutely not. The crime scene is a freaking joke just like this case.
@@Catherine-cj8gp whether it’s a cover-up or not it’s a complete debacle of the crime scene and to suggest that she murdered this man with the way they processed this scene is absolutely ridiculous!
The amount of people saying she is guilty is scary! Disregarding the dog bites and scratches, lack of dents on the car, lack of bruising to his torso etc come on now
Seriously! I’m so baffled that people can be so gullible! Those cops in the house did this! Karen may have been drunk but didn’t hit him. She went home mad because he didn’t come back out and dozed off then got up realized he still wasn’t home at 5am I wouldve ran back to that house too looking for my man
And don’t forget the missing shoe and hat. Nothing in this case adds up and prosecution is doing a terrible job presenting the embarrassing evidence that they do have.
Huge mistake from Lt. Paul Gallagher when he said seeing the glass in the yard was not unusual because they had come from a bar/restaurant. So he is assuming that a police officer stole the glass (which he did) than the glass coming from the house party he was invited to?
I’m not buying that Karen hit him going 26 mph in reverse and only has a cracked taillight. John was 6’2” and over 200 lbs. His body would have caused much more damage to the vehicle especially at that speed. If you’ve ever hit a deer or any other animal then you know this. According to his injuries he was in bad shape, but then the vehicle only has a cracked light? Things don’t make any sense in this case. And the cops botched this entire thing, so I believe they took the cop/homeowner and guests for their word and focused only on Karen. More to come, so I guess we shall see.
@@thatssus6045Yes should have been more damage to the vehicle. Also his injures don't match that of a car hitting him. He doesn't have any lower body injuries.
Why doesn’t this police dept use body cams? This happened in 2022; there’s no excuse for not using body cams. That makes me distrust this dept even apart from this case.
Funny that you paused on sequences when the Judge allowed a question to come in, because the MAJORITY of the time, she wasn’t favorable to the defense team. We’re all wondering why, and why she seems to be helping the prosecution with her own questions and statements.
From Reports, there are details of 17 People at Scene, includes within the Albert's Home, and Chloe the Dog. And Experienced Plough Driver ... A total of 18 People that potentially have details of what happened.
I can see why you're no longer a prosecutor. She claimed she wasn't very close to this woman. But ahhh. You seen a photo of them together.!!! That does not prove how friendly they were
I'm always amazed at the terrible sound quality of 911 call recordings. They're asking us to listen to what's happening in the background, I can barely hear what's being said in the foreground.
I’ve been following this for a long time. I’m glad the world is really seeing it now. If you go back and watch all the pre-trial stuff you will be more outraged
I don't know whether she killed him or not but I do know she shouldn't be convicted based on this botched and shady investigation. So far I see a lot of reasonable doubt.
I want to know if there is any of John's DNA on the back of Karen's car where she allegedly stuck him. If there was blood in the snow on the lawn there should be blood or skin cells on the car too.
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They set her up
I’m up in the air
She hit him
@CourtTV the 911 call was Jen McCabe, not Kerry Roberts.
My question is are the phones work phones or personal phones? Are they using personal phones at work? If they are used at work then it's a protected public record. We can look at GPS, text, social media, calls and whatever else the phone was used for, they can pull cell tower data and know exactly who is in the area. That POS ATF knows this, hell they all know this and are dirty AF. I bet this murder is not the worse crime "they" have committed. Where are the FBI and DoJ agents? Didn't the FBI assure us they will crack down on government corruption?
Since when did police officers not have surveillance cameras on their house
Exactly…where are the videos from all the neighborhoods ring and blink cams? Not one on the street? These homes were close together too. It’s sketchy.
@@thatssus6045there were, they conveniently didn’t capture anything 🤪
Wasn’t there a blizzard lol
I'm in the UK & following the trial. I Thought there was only 1 Pinocchio, it seems he has relatives working as police, never ever have I heard such BS, & the dog needs to be traced if it is still breathing. A neighbourhood like that, it looks quite nice there will be door bell video, cctv, No cop is going to live in a house that big & not have a security system, ?? And who would kill someone especially a cop in front of a house full of cops ??.
The cameras are with the dog somewhere…
Investigation was negligent from the beginning !No crime scene tape, the owners of the house where he was found dead werent talked to.they never came out of the house!no evidence bags???BOTCHED!Reasonal doubt in my head.
How about the blood evidence open & exposed on the Sallyport floor days later??
I DO think there is enough reasonable doubt being raised that it will be tough to convict!
Yeah. Im not saying Karen DIDNT do it. Im just sayin if I was on the jury, Id have some reasonable doubts. And thats....kinda on the cops who investigated. They really fucked it up. If Karen was innocent and this is a coverup, horrifying. But if Karen DID do it, STILL HORRIFYING that they think this is ok conduct. They really didnt handle this case well at all.
I agree!
@@Rndomness I think a good question for them to have added would've been, is there a specific reason that he did not ask the homeowner's for plastic containers to obtain evidence from their lawn?
I am a strong believer that red solo cups were invented for beer pong. Not for blood sample collecting.
🚨 ← Red Solo Cup
Yup → 🍺👮🏻♂️- "Cheers!"
Ell-Oh-Ell... ! Oh Hell...!
Not in Massachusetts..🤷
Even with everything else that's reasonable doubt, the solo cups are reasonable doubt alone.
😂😂
That pig like police officer said otherwise thinking solo cups were suitable for evidence collecting why not put in a Tupperware instead what a Moore ron.
“Did you ask for consent to search the Alberts house?” Lank- ABSOLUTELY NOT…… WHATTTTT?????? there is an officer dead or dying or their front lawn…. No witnesses are being clear about what happened, wouldn’t you have more questions for the people inside the house? Maybe… could he have walked in and you didn’t see him? Have you seen a black hat or a sneakers in your house?
What about questions after… “wait why are you getting rid of Chloe? Your German shepherd”
Or
Woah My friend Brian!!! You have lived here for over 20 years!!! Why are you selling your family home??? After ripping up the basement floor!?!?”
Cover up
🎯💯
The people in the house said that he didn't come in the house so there was no reason to go in the house. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. We didn't get a warrant because we didn't think that there would be probable cause. Tf
@@nuorigin again…. Just take the witness’s word for it? What if Jen didn’t see him go in the house? What about the shoe or hat? What about just asking a good buddy of yours for some good ole fashioned “peace of mind” to just “look around”
@nuorigin right!!! Hell usually they just make up probable cause anyways when they want to get someone and all of a sudden they can't find any with an officer down in the yard 🤔 (insert eyeroll)
The worst thing about this case is the judge worried more about scheduling coffee than being there, always shutting the defense team down, always sustaining all the objectives even helping him object. This is so bias of her. She needs to really step down unless she’s friends with the Albert family too.Too
She might have IBS!
Her brother is a lawyer and defended someone in the case on other side in past!! The judge is an ahole and so unfair to Karen!! She should have to step down at least in this case!! Free Karen Read!!!!❤❤❤
I agree I can’t believe how rude she is. She said “ let’s move it along.” This is two peoples lives if it takes 10 weeks oh well that’s what it takes to get the evidence out then she needs to deal with it! It’s her job, if she’s bored maybe she should step DOWN!!! She sucks anyway. Karen is not getting a fair trial with this nasty judge.
Oh yea, free Karen read!!!!!
They call her Auntie Bev
Imagine there being a dead body on my front yard and the cops don't ask me a Damn thing because I'm sleeping 😂
Poor O'Keefe's family. This is an injustice to them.
I'm betting he was listening to Police radio and getting updates from his police pals
I can't imagine if that's where my son..... I would be beyond livid😮
They went into the house and spoke with them. You people are crazy
@@tigerlilygirl2643 . The cops literally said " ABSOLUTELY NOT" about questioning the criminals in the house and when asked if they served a search warrant: "ABSOLUTELY NOT, THERE WAS NO PROBABLE
CAUSE". Pay attention. I guess a dead body on the their lawn doesn't look suspicious to these 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
No search. That's crazy! You're crazy for ignoring the incompetence.
Must have been cold that night, Canton PD is really covering up. John Okeefe deserved better.
The whole cocktail glass talk. They didn’t know the O’Keefe allegedly left the bar with a glass so why wouldn’t you check the house? They didn’t know where it came from.
Imagine if it was just a civilian in the yard let alone a fellow cop 😳😳 These mfers are thugs with badges!!!!
The jury will figure what is lies and what is the truth.. I have faith in them!
Have you so far?
It seems odd to me that everyone in that house would conspire to lie. Especially after allegedly they killed him. That seems far fetched. I hope all the people in house are on the stand
@@katrinat.3032 depending on where others were in the house, I can see some of them not even knowing. If they kept John in the basement until the ones who didn't know left and they put him outside after. I am obviously wildly speculating though lol.
@@katrinat.3032 don't forget about the three men who DIED.. frozen to death in "buddy's " back yard.. also, police don't "cross the Blue Line".
@@Cameron_FI agree.
A leaf blower and solo cups 😂
You forgot the Stop n Shop grocery bag.
@MK-ro6wi Huh? Nobody has ever said that the leaf blower and solo cups are proof they framed someone for murder.
@MK-ro6wi. No. It means they hurried thru an investigation that demanded attention to detail. Shoddy unprofessionalism.
And where’s his shoe n hat? In the house? Would hv been probable cause to search the house.
@@RUclipsreplies inside, where he was BASHED!
This whole case has been a hot mess since day one
or do they want us to just THINK it was a hot mess?
That town is a joke regarding their legal system. Residents run. Scary place to live, that's for sure.
I'm just tuning it but based on all the comments here it seems similar to the Murdaugh killings and the situation in their town ~ lots of corruption over the years. It got exposed though through that trial's effect on local news reporting and individual podcasts.
I can’t get over the blood evidence in Solo Cups in a Stop & Shop bag on the sallyport floor ,wide open & exposed for days. If I was johns family I’d be so outraged with the lack of respect for a fellow police officer.
The worst part is they took the side of the murders! Their shame will be heavy on them for years for blaming Karen. So sad!
Does anyone know why?
Did they always dislike her or were they told something about her regarding their son's death?
How is evidence of a crime on a front lawn with no motive or murder weapon NOT probable cause to search the residence? This is before Karen was even believed to be a suspect. How is a dead body on a front lawn not probable cause to search the residence?
At 9am, the crime scene was still an open and active investigation - but the house wasn't searched? What? Why? How?
My thoughts exactly!!! I was literally screaming this outloud!!!
exactly! with a handfuls of cops around, too!
Especially with 12 ppl in it that were directly known related associated with the entire matter and “victim 50 feet in front. plus 12 ppl inside , children too maybe? They were TOLD to act dumb and like they were sleeping. LOL what a clumsy pathetic STUNT Fraud this whole thing is.
Because 11 people never saw him inside the house. What would they be looking for?
@@sarasmilesco8551 we’re talking 6:30am… before the police supposedly didn’t know who/what/where/when/how/why. At the very start of the investigation, 11 people inside wasn’t even a factor. When you respond to a crime scene - you secure it and start your investigation. Finding of who was/wasn’t in the house and what they possibly saw comes much later. And several of the 11 people you include in your headcount weren’t interviewed for a year later, so you cannot say the police didn’t enter the house because 11 people never saw him go inside. The morning OJO was found those 11 people weren’t even known. Names and headcount were yet to be accounted for. An unconscious body on a front lawn at 6:30am is 100% probable cause...
This case is wild!! The solo cups…..
🚨 = Red Solo Cup
I guess what blows my mind is that nobody came out of the house. Oh my goodness I come out of the house if there’s anything going on in my yard, let alone somebody dying in their yard and they didn’t come out of the house. What does that say?!!!!
Absolutely 12 ppl inside and curious children LOL, they intentionally stayed silent acting like nothing occurred or were too sleep. 12 ppl? LOL, not hardly, they were TOLD to stay silent.
And the “cops” loosely said, the cops asked a neighbor for the solo cups not that house bc they didn’t want to wake them up
Wtf?!
Right? I see someone on my lawn, I’m coming out. Especially if there’s heavy police presence
'There's this guy in the snow' - no 'There is an police officer dead in the snow'
Not only that but she's known the man in the snow for YEARS never mind not mentioning he's a cop but not even his name? Suspicious
Oh thank God, two people with some sense. Everyone is so hooked on the conspiracy that everyone is ignoring all the red flags. So many red flags.
Cops aren't special.
@@justj959 Especially in a small town - and everyone apparently knows John O'Keefe by reputation at least
@@justj959agreed.
If these cops and their families aren't sus in this small town, why are the feds investigating??????
EXACTLY!!!
Great question
Select Committee Audit $
Drugs?
John OKeefe was in the Child Protection Unit ... PEDOS?
The female firefighter smiled when she answered „we’re acquaintances“ she doesn’t seem truthful imo
It’s when she said I went to school with someone called Caitlin Albert 😂
I truly believe that in someway the police have covered things up because it involved one of their own. This entire case has been handled wrong on both sides.
Nice upscale police officer's
house. But no surveillance/security cameras?Hmmmmm
A blind man on a fast horse can see the corruption in this case!
To skippee: I'm going to have to plagiarize you. Love it! ❤
Where is the missing shoe? my son was severely bit by his ex-girlfriend’s English bulldog and I promise you the dog bites on his leg. Look absolutely exactly like the marks on John Okeefes arm! And they got rid of their beloved dog that they had for seven years Chloe there’s no doubt in my mind that Chloe attacked this man! To me they have no right to even arrest her. They have nothing on her whatsoever this entire thing if not a cover-up it’s a joke. This is the worst police scene I’ve ever seen in my life.
I love how the judge in this case sustains the prosecution’s objections without cause of law stating reason for objection
Just a guy a man? WHAT ABOUT A POLICE OFFICER wow 🤦♀️
Why does Judge Cannone consistently pretend she can't remember Caitlyn Albert's name. She's probably her godmother or something 😂
Didn't she only forget it once?
There’s so much reasonable doubt. I’m confused as to why the prosecutors decided to take on this case.
Because they refuse to just take the Loss. Case never should have been brought.
because they know she killed the poor bloke. She’s a killer and deserves to be locked away.
because it was a cop.
@@stevenprice6957 👌👌👌
Because he was killed in a prominent family's home by his supposed friends and fellow officers. Because the prosecutor's office is highly corrupt and in the pocket of said prominent family and friends with said murderous officers. Because if Karen Reed does not go down for this then the prosecutor will be expected to ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOB and prosecute the real murderers and conspirators, and that just cannot happen in this town. Because if Karen Reed does not go down for this then the police will be expected to investigate their own corruption, which also cannot happen. The list goes on as to why the prosecutor keeps pushing forward and it all stinks to high heaven. They hope that because it's a conspiracy and rational people tend to automatically dismiss the idea of conspiracies that they will get away with this. Unfortunately though, in this case, this is very much a conspiracy between the family, the police and the prosecutor's office. This case is horrible and John and Karen deserve so much better. If you live in this town, run. If you think this cannot happen to you, it can. This is despicable.
You mean to tell me a police department doesn’t have a proper procedures! Hello, snowblower what , it snows in Mass every year and your telling me they don’t have a procedure for snow!! They are insane free Karen Read!!
You never macguyver a crime scene
😂😂 true dat
lol. All I remember about that show as a kid is it was on right before Monday Night Football
Maybe they all have so much dirt on each other that no one can tell the truth.
It's sickening how often cops get away with breaking the law
The judge will let the Perjury slide
There cannot be justice for John O'Keefe until we free Karen Read
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I’m making up Canton evidence kits. 1 A leaf blower 2 A StopandShop paper bag (used) 3 solo cup(6 of). No flashlight, tape, pen, paper, evidence tape , crime scene tape, measuring scales or measuring tape lighting, containment, markers are needed.
How much you charge for the software that deletes incriminating video evidence
Don’t forget recording the conversations during investigation.
@MK-ro6wii hope this is meant to be funny not serious 😂😂
No photos of his body taken as he laid on the ground. What is going on??????
This is very common when the victim has to be taken to hospital right away. There is nothing suspicious about that...
He was still alive they were trying to save his life not take pics
The Alberts are running this town.
The alberts don’t care what happens to karen as long as they are not targeted
Exactly. If (when) she walks, the investigation will be over.
The biased judge who is interested how long it’s gonna take the defense to cross examine because she has to get coffee or we shutting them down when they’re getting to the points, always helping the prosecution of object and sustain object and even help them say object when they didn’t say object, this is so pure bias
All her sigh bars!
Truth. The judge summers on Cape cod with the mcabes. The mcabes called her “Aunt Bev” to a journalist. The judges dad or brother represented Chris Albert in his criminal dui homicide case. Major conflict of interest. She refused to recuse herself.
"I'll let him have that one"
oh thanks, give the dog a bone 🙄
God expose corruption
You’ve called it right with this BIASED JUDGE. She showed her bias on the first day of the trial!
I don't see any track marks going to and from the house, and even though it's been snowing there would still show a difference
Can we quit saying this police department didn’t process scenes? Perhaps not murder scenes: but what about attempted murder scenes? Robbery scenes? Rape scenes? CPAC wouldn’t respond until the guy died…what if he hadn’t died? Who would have been responsible for handling the scene? CPD. Stop it. Stop defending the indefensible. This police department is indefensible. Horrid.
The snow was coming down they and to improvise in order to collect the blood before more snow came down and they risked losing the evidence all together.
I see alot of pain in her eyes. She has been through alot and officer O'Keefe lost his life and my money is on the ones who rehomed their family dog and sold their house in a hurry as the ones responsible
If the judge is worried about the trial lasting days and weeks, why does she have such short days and such short weeks in court? Miller time? Gotta beat the traffic home?
She is trying to break the stride of defense. The judge summers on Cape cod with the mcabes. The mcabes called her “Aunt Bev” to a journalist. The judges dad or brother represented Chris Albert in his criminal dui homicide case. Major conflict of interest. She refused to recuse herself.
Right! A woman is on trial for MURDER! Something that could potentially send her to prison for LIFE! The amount of time it takes doesn't matter AT ALL! If by some strange occurrence she is convicted, she will easily win on appeal. The problem with that is it costs $$$$$.
So they woke up kelleher but didn't want to wake up the Alberts
Karen is innocent.
Karen killed John.
@@John-tj4upyah, nope. I cant wait for the jury to return the NOT GUILTY verdict.
@@John-tj4up You're DeLuLu FACTS: Jen McCabe the sister in law googled " How long to die in cold" at 2:37 am‼️ Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️ John had dog scratches on his arms.
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@@John-tj4up👌
Can we talk about these blood drops? If he was there at 1245 am, there would have been an inch or two of snow. His head wound bled at least 3L of blood-that amount would have melted the snow. The blood would be in the dirt. The drops of blood likely came from moving the body to the stretcher. Therefore the body needed to be on the farther side of the drops because from testimony we know they had the stretcher on the street for stability. So they wouldn’t have moved him further into the yard to have to carry him back out. How can no one see these simple easy to spot problems with the facts presented?
Yes. Where is all the blood? It was all over inside the house
He bled into his distended abdomen and lungs and bc of the skull fracture, he bled into his head and it pooled into his eyes.
@@tigerlilygirl2643 we shall see as the medical examiners have not testified, but head wounds bleed profusely and no where have they stated in the testimony that he bled out into his stomach, and his head wound didn’t bleed as all other head wounds do.
@@user-ut3ft4qn5f exactly. The police involved are disgraceful. Karma is a real thing.
I believe there is testimony that Karen was giving CPR and she had blood on her mouth area from trying to save him.
Yes but jeez putting blood evidence in solo cups what about cross contamination, could they not wait on proper crime scene investigators. Bad practice.
seems like a cover-up.
hang in there Karen you got this! no way this clown show is going to last, the truth will come out.
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Karen will get karma further down the line. Psycho Read drunk to much and anger and jealousy got the better of her. A man died because of her actions. It’s as simple as that.
@@stevenprice6957 Colin Albert is that you?? bang bang!
Please don't drink and drive in a snow storm
Don't drink and drive, period.
Or have a drunkn house party.
Doesn't make it her fault.
Uber is not a cop option. I don’t know why.
@@audreydaleski1067 Karen blacked out making it difficult to testify the truth!
Lank just looks like he tells lies for a living.
The thing that bothers me most is the broken cocktail glass.
The jury needs to see the autopsy pictures and call it a day. Wonder why the State is holding them back.
Where are the actual frensics? Seems like none were sought. The craziest thing to me is that no interviews or investigation was done immediately with those in whose home hed gone that night... And what about that judge⁉️😳
The cops literally said on the stand...of course we didn't go inside the house or talk to them, absolutely not! Omfg are you serious!! Not establishing if the glass matched ones in the house or bar is wild!!
Whooo! Karen Read did not say I Did It, I did it I did it, she said I hit him, I hit him, I hit Him. Also Pay attention to the video of how he was supposedly hit by the left rear side of the SUV against the video and evidence of the damage supposedly creating by the broken rear right tail light. Both tail light according to all the evidence should be broken. Give us real facts not personal feelings please.
the video shows both tail light's WHOLE at a way later time. the passenger may have been cracked due to backing into that car but there were NO PEICES ON THE GROUND. and both lights are whole as she drives away.
Katie McLaughlin didn’t testify to Karen saying “I did it, I did it, I did it.” She claimed Karen said “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him.” Problem is no one else heard this statement. Further she lied about her friendship. She shouldn’t have. Admitting a friendship wouldn’t have been as big of a problem as lying about your friendship. Sadly she was willing to lie which made her testimony questionable at best. Especially given other people there did not report it the same was as she claimed it was said. But now we know why two of the EMT/FFs thought they heard KR say she hit OJO. It’s because Katie opened the closed door and told them that Karen said she hit him. 🤷♀️
Several other first responders heard her say it. Are you people even watching the trial???
@@tigerlilygirl2643 no. Several other people heard her say variations of ‘did I hit him’ ‘could I have hit him?’ And one testified he heard her ask “I hit him?” Not one heard her say “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him” which is what she said in her original statement to Trooper Proctor. Are you watching the trial? We shouldn’t need to clarify these simple facts to you-speech comprehension should not be a problem at this point.
EXACTLY!!!
A forensics team should have been collecting the evidence.
MISSING SHOE WAS PROBABLY WRAPPED UP IN THE BLOODY CARPET THEY DISPOSED!!!!
There were only "drops" of blood in the snow. I've seen the photos of the body. He had a large gash on the back of his head. There should be a LOT of blood. Where is all that blood in the snow???????
It makes way more sense that he was beaten up inside the house and scratched by the dog before being dragged outside then he was hit by a car
Put a man that you killed in your house, out in your front yard? If I (or someone in my house) killed someone, I sure as hell would not put them in my front yard. And when Karen, Jen, & Carrie were looking for John, how is it that Karen "saw" him, when Jen & Carrie could barely see anything? Hmmm.......maybe because she knew he was there?
Idk about a mass cover up but I do know that these are a bunch of good ole boys who are used to doing whatever they want, breaking every rule, doing horrid police work with zero accountability, and they found themselves in the wrong case here! Cover up no cover up they have no true case bc of their gross incompetence. This case should be thrown out
How can they let the family sit so close to Karen?
The Defense team actually seem to think it's okay. They objected to the first courtroom, so it was switched, and they approved this one. That approval included the seating chart.
This is why different officers are given different jobs to investigate a crime. If procedure had been followed, there wouldn't be these questions.
they likely knew that, hence their botched actions. they likely hoped it would be good enough and looked over.
So Karen goes back to the Party because John didnt return home.
What was the PREARRANGED plan for him to get home IF HE DIDNT HAVE A CAR?
No, there was no reason for her to go back UNLESS she had a designated time to pick him up.
Does she have text with this info between herself and the dead guy?
This judge is clearly clearly for the prosecution. She needs to step back and see what she’s doing. She’s making herself look bad. She’s just as bad as the police if you ask me, let the defense attorneys do their job Red solo cups??!! not going into the house not asking anybody in the house any questions this is just ridiculous. There’s no way they can find her guilty. Absolutely not. The crime scene is a freaking joke just like this case.
Yup another one in cover up
Is all connected … unbelievable
@@Catherine-cj8gp absolutely unbelievable the worst I’ve ever seen!!
@@Catherine-cj8gp whether it’s a cover-up or not it’s a complete debacle of the crime scene and to suggest that she murdered this man with the way they processed this scene is absolutely ridiculous!
Calling perjury on KMclaughlin is ridiculous, a lawyer knows better.
Her lawyers ate quite good. The police didn't follow So Many normal procedures! Why???????
Why does this Judge have constant sidebars? So annoying!
You can tell by her body language.. she is lying. Guilty
to insert her power trips.
nothing happens when someone commits perjury these days
Wendi Adelson
This Judge is a serious unprofessional JOKE.
Yes - doesn't even ask them to give basis for objections. She's sassy but dumb sassy
You are describing whst our justice system used to be. And there are plenty of proven liars.
This witness that said she didn’t recognize the Albertsons house is surely telling a lie.
I would just wish to God if I ever got in trouble I would have these defense attorneys. They’re absolutely amazing.!!!!!!!❤
This seems like one of those towns where if you score too high on an IQ test, you can't be a cop.
Secure your crime scene, call a crime scene expert on the show and get their opinion but it’s 2024 jurors probably have seen a CSI episode before
The amount of people saying she is guilty is scary! Disregarding the dog bites and scratches, lack of dents on the car, lack of bruising to his torso etc come on now
Also we have - Hos long to die in the cold?
Seriously! I’m so baffled that people can be so gullible! Those cops in the house did this! Karen may have been drunk but didn’t hit him. She went home mad because he didn’t come back out and dozed off then got up realized he still wasn’t home at 5am I wouldve ran back to that house too looking for my man
Seriously blows my mind how people come up with their conclusions on her being guilty.
And don’t forget the missing shoe and hat. Nothing in this case adds up and prosecution is doing a terrible job presenting the embarrassing evidence that they do have.
@@bbwaddict_shae The harsh reality is that most people are not very critical or smart. The “guilty” verdict crew is proof of that.
Huge mistake from Lt. Paul Gallagher when he said seeing the glass in the yard was not unusual because they had come from a bar/restaurant. So he is assuming that a police officer stole the glass (which he did) than the glass coming from the house party he was invited to?
They did what the could at that time..I love the leafblower, the solocups, yeah it is questionable. 😂
Ive been watching the trial & Im not buying this massive cop coverup.
Me either but I also don’t think they charged her appropriately.
They're trying to cover up their incompetence
@@VIRALLYSPEAKINGTV, wasn’t Karen originally charged with manslaughter?
I’m not buying that Karen hit him going 26 mph in reverse and only has a cracked taillight. John was 6’2” and over 200 lbs. His body would have caused much more damage to the vehicle especially at that speed. If you’ve ever hit a deer or any other animal then you know this. According to his injuries he was in bad shape, but then the vehicle only has a cracked light? Things don’t make any sense in this case. And the cops botched this entire thing, so I believe they took the cop/homeowner and guests for their word and focused only on Karen. More to come, so I guess we shall see.
@@thatssus6045Yes should have been more damage to the vehicle. Also his injures don't match that of a car hitting him. He doesn't have any lower body injuries.
Why doesn’t this police dept use body cams? This happened in 2022; there’s no excuse for not using body cams. That makes me distrust this dept even apart from this case.
Even the prosecution case kinda clears Karen Reed. She would be found guilty only if there were 12 Alberts in the jury...
Funny that you paused on sequences when the Judge allowed a question to come in, because the MAJORITY of the time, she wasn’t favorable to the defense team. We’re all wondering why, and why she seems to be helping the prosecution with her own questions and statements.
From Reports, there are details of 17 People at Scene, includes within the Albert's Home, and Chloe the Dog. And Experienced Plough Driver ... A total of 18 People that potentially have details of what happened.
I like the stop and shop paper bag
Yup I busted out laughing. Stop and Shop for evidence. Sad, sad case.
All the back the blue " conservatives " taking Karen Read's side is the most surprising thing to me
Wait for the all the evidence.
The cop that died parents need to sue the state for how this crime scene was treated.
Surprised they didn't also use a hair dryer ...
I can see why you're no longer a prosecutor. She claimed she wasn't very close to this woman. But ahhh. You seen a photo of them together.!!! That does not prove how friendly they were
I'm always amazed at the terrible sound quality of 911 call recordings. They're asking us to listen to what's happening in the background, I can barely hear what's being said in the foreground.
Unfortunately, they're not "asking us" - they're asking the jury. Let's pray they can hear it better than us!
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It’s Karen that is hiding the truth. But I believe justice will be served
I’ve been following this for a long time. I’m glad the world is really seeing it now. If you go back and watch all the pre-trial stuff you will be more outraged
Higgins is the wolf aka the cleaner.
And the messeruppers; McAlbert's.
Caitlin Albert was allegedly also in the home and last to leave ?
"Half Hazard" Exactly! They went through the motion's just not intently 😮
Higgins ordered the code Red
Red solo cup!
Justice for John O'Keefe ❤💔❤
I don't know whether she killed him or not but I do know she shouldn't be convicted based on this botched and shady investigation. So far I see a lot of reasonable doubt.
I want to know if there is any of John's DNA on the back of Karen's car where she allegedly stuck him. If there was blood in the snow on the lawn there should be blood or skin cells on the car too.
How much do you want to bet that they never even checked her bumper at all
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. given the rest of the buffoonery