The King of D&D's Forgotten Heavy Metal Dragons

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @DungeonDad
    @DungeonDad  Год назад +57

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    Thanks for watching everyone, let me know what monster you'd like to see next!

    • @FoolsGil
      @FoolsGil Год назад +2

      Can you do Green Dragons?

    • @guilhermefinamori-xy8xn
      @guilhermefinamori-xy8xn Год назад +1

      Hello, love your videos and I am always fascinated about the D&D world, but as someone who just started to dive into this world I'm curious are there any Chinese/Japanese/Korean dragons in it or are all of them European dragons, I'm just curious of course and if there aren't any who knows maybe you can make one, could be interesting.

    • @IdiotinGlans
      @IdiotinGlans Год назад +3

      If we're on a dragon roll, I will throw one more for Dragons of Savage Coast - Crimson Dragon, Red Hawk Dragon and Ferlon (Ferlón? My keyboard doesn't support correct kind of o).

    • @zachhessler9418
      @zachhessler9418 Год назад +2

      The Anglerlich, and giant otherworldly fish that creates a BBEG for the players to fight and eventually defeat, only to consume them at their peak of heroism!

    • @Victoria-bh2ht
      @Victoria-bh2ht Год назад +1

      Have you ever considered making a thing of the items that can be crafted from dragon parts? Potions made from dragons blood, weapons hilted in dragon bone, armour from dragon scales etc.. It could be fun coming up with the different minor abilities that each type of dragon imparts into those items ^^

  • @stephennicholson1377
    @stephennicholson1377 Год назад +1062

    The existence of ferrous dragons implies the existence of the rust dragon.
    A BBEG version of a rust monster that embodies entropy.

    • @pandoratheclay
      @pandoratheclay Год назад +25

      Topaz?

    • @SpookyFraiser
      @SpookyFraiser Год назад +31

      Kobold Press has a Rust Drake... so dragonkin?

    • @spectrelead
      @spectrelead Год назад +70

      There was a 3.5 rust dragon in the Draconomicon

    • @joshuazane3210
      @joshuazane3210 Год назад +99

      Rust dragons are already canon. They're planar dragons that are native to Acheron. It's implied that part of the rust monsters' life cycle is finding their way to Acheron, where they transform into rust dragons. You can see where this idea comes from as rust dragons have insect like antennae and wings like a dragonfly. For more information, check out the Acheron section in the 2E Planescape supplement "Planes of Law".

    • @nehrumoreiradesousa6302
      @nehrumoreiradesousa6302 Год назад

      you are evil

  • @chrisgliniewicz7725
    @chrisgliniewicz7725 Год назад +1341

    I became an adult recently and purchased a printer to print important documents like character sheets and your monster conversions.

    • @eclectic_nerd
      @eclectic_nerd Год назад +107

      A very proper and grown-up thing to do.

    • @joshuakirkham9593
      @joshuakirkham9593 Год назад +47

      This should be an update to the details of what it means to be an adult For Everyone.

    • @dtgbulletproof
      @dtgbulletproof Год назад +25

      You just made me so nostalgic for my old sheets printed in Diablo's gothic font for 2e and 3.5. I miss all my old stuff.

    • @odinulveson9101
      @odinulveson9101 Год назад +9

      Got a printer too for similar purpose

    • @zacharykeller4905
      @zacharykeller4905 Год назад +2

      Lol wonderful

  • @nemonada1323
    @nemonada1323 Год назад +262

    Ultimate play of the steel dragon that just had it's museum leveled by a red dragon: "You... Y'know what, I know where there's a sleeping Iron Dragon. I think I'll just hire me a mercenary by telling her where you are."

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +45

      I love it. A _sleeping_ Iron Dragon, so who knows how old+big it is...

    • @Exxeron-ob3tv
      @Exxeron-ob3tv Год назад +7

      cool factor 10

    • @MarMonkey2606
      @MarMonkey2606 Год назад +8

      that would be perfect.

  • @glitchking666
    @glitchking666 Год назад +199

    I like the idea of the younger iron dragons doing the hit and run and spy stuff, until they complete thr rite of passage of killing a red dragon in single combat, thus proving their strength and right to come out of the shadows

    • @thekawaiiginger7840
      @thekawaiiginger7840 Год назад +9

      This is SUCH a good idea, honestly. Keep this in mind, DMs!!

    • @The-Man-of-Pepsi
      @The-Man-of-Pepsi Год назад +12

      That sounds like an amazing encounter higher level parties could run into. Not necessarily a fight but certainly interesting.

    • @sharondornhoff7563
      @sharondornhoff7563 Год назад +6

      It sounds to me more like a role that would've originally gone to one of the other four ferrous dragons.

  • @id9907
    @id9907 Год назад +241

    I'm sorry, when you brought up Gruaghlothor's near immortality I couldn't help but think of this:
    Inquisitive Wyrmling: "Did you die?!"
    Gruaghlothor: "Sadly yes, but I lived!"

  • @RyllenKriel
    @RyllenKriel Год назад +95

    The Iron Dragon disapproves of your wrinkled clothes. It appeals to their lawful nature keeping all things in order. You can often find them polymorphed as a human form running a laundry or dry cleaning business. Their breath weapon can blast clothing with a cone effect of adjustable temperature steam. Once per day Iron Dragons can alter their breath with starch to fight the most difficult unruly fabrics. Ferrous Dragons are therefore often at odds with Fabric Dragons, especially Silk, Cotton and Linen varieties for their Chaotic leanings. Many tales speak of terrible early morning battles between Iron Dragons and their Fabric cousins, beginning with the bellowed challenge "damn wrinkles, I'll be late for work" and a retort of "you ain't the boss of me!"
    Side note: Polyester Dragons are an unnatural creature created by Thayan wizards. They are not true Fabric Dragons but their scales can be used to craft a powerful artifact known as the Red Leisure Suit of Destiny. Many a Thayan pimp covers these robes for they do not wrinkle easily, resist stains or moth attacks and make a player character look like a... well, true player.

  • @takeyouforgranite7850
    @takeyouforgranite7850 Год назад +432

    Honestly, a fun plot point for the Iron Dragon would be a variant on the classic "Princess is kidnapped by a dragon" plotline, but she got kidnapped because her nation committed some horrific war crime under her orders, and the Iron Dragon has kidnapped her to put her on trial in front of a jury of the other Iron Dragons in its colony.
    Maybe after the party realize why the princess was taken, the Iron Dragons recruit them to be the humanoid side of the jury and help with determining the verdict?

    • @MiniCerberus991
      @MiniCerberus991 Год назад +50

      that would seem more along the metallic dragons way of going about things. these guys would probably just be like "look at the pions, fighting all their pitiful lives for scraps of an " empire"

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +52

      @@MiniCerberus991 Yeah... _unless_ (plot twist) the princess *_is_* a ferrous dragon, & the trial is for siding with shortlives, by contesting one of her harsher sibling's territorial claims.

    • @RedSunUnderParadise
      @RedSunUnderParadise Год назад +20

      This but the Iron dragons are salty that her kingdom didn't commit the war crimes they ordered them to.

    • @CollinKillian
      @CollinKillian 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's never a war crime the first time..

    • @UnpredictablyAutistic
      @UnpredictablyAutistic 6 месяцев назад +2

      The princess failed to show up on time for her trial

  • @peng1luver259
    @peng1luver259 Год назад +147

    Iron, nickel, and cobalt are magnetic, tungsten and chromium are often mixed into steel either to make it heat resistant or shiny.

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +2

      100%
      Glad I scrolled down before posting

    • @HenriFaust
      @HenriFaust Год назад +14

      Chromium is added to prevent corrosion. The shininess is just a bonus.
      Tungsten iron alloys are primarily used as ultrahard magnets.

    • @chrisschoenthaler5184
      @chrisschoenthaler5184 Год назад +2

      Very nice catch!

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic Год назад +7

      At least some of them also tend to be found in the same ores, IIRC. While copper, silver and gold tend to also be found in common deposits (which accounts for the core metallic dragons, since bronze and brass are alloys of copper).
      I'd be inclined to attribute the ferrous grouping to alloys, though. The idea would be that they're all part iron, but only the iron dragons are 'pure', and that's the ideological justification for why irons are the ruling caste. The others are mixes of iron and some other metal, and they're identified by what the other metal is.

  • @mung01re
    @mung01re Год назад +236

    Let's keep it both lore friendly and realistic. Ferrous dragons are not ranked in their society by species, but by iron impurities. "Oh, Frank the nickle dragon has a 6.4% iron impurity content? Guess he'll be mayor."

    • @NertNeverlander
      @NertNeverlander Год назад +20

      Lol, then all ferrous dragons except iron(and steel) are imbreedings of iron and other metallic dragons lmao

    • @LurchTheBastard
      @LurchTheBastard Год назад +51

      @@NertNeverlander You mean hybridisations of. Which is almost the exact opposite of inbreeding.

    • @NertNeverlander
      @NertNeverlander Год назад +29

      @@LurchTheBastard sorry lol, i'm just learning eng language

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +28

      @@NertNeverlander Welcome to hell, friend

    • @redacted1766
      @redacted1766 Год назад +15

      Which is why they hoard iron, to eat in order to keep the iron scales pure

  • @stingerjohnny9951
    @stingerjohnny9951 Год назад +97

    What if Steel Dragons ARE ferrous dragons that were driven into exile. Their culture of blending in with humanity started as a necessity for their survival, and they eventually just came to like humans after spending so much time with them.

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic Год назад +20

      I was thinking something similar, except that instead of being former iron dragons, they're one of the 'exiled' species. Basically, the steel dragons decided that they actually liked humanoids, shifted to a viewpoint more aligned with traditional metallic dragons, and defected into that camp. Would also explain why, in at least some versions, steel dragons are said to be LN with LG tendencies, when metallics are normally Something Good.
      Could also raise the possibility that some other dragon types come from exiled species. (I think one setting, might have been Dragonlance, had the idea that the chromatics were originally metallic, but when they turned evil along with Takhisis, their scales turned into the colour of the corrosion of that metal, thus becoming chromatics, so could even play with this to make some of the chromatic variants into former ferrous types.)

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 Год назад +7

      @@Draxynnic Oh yeah, I wasn’t implying that they were former iron dragons, I was branching off his statement that half of the ferrous species disappeared or were exiled.
      Also you got some great ideas of your own!

  • @CharlieBooth-lb2gu
    @CharlieBooth-lb2gu Год назад +149

    As a DM, I honestly need to thank you for how many missions, one shots and even full on campaigns you've inspired. Really good work out their and thanks for inspiring me to be a better Dm.

  • @johncollins7631
    @johncollins7631 Год назад +47

    In my mind I already see a campaign focused issue where Mind Flayers have provided Iron dragons with plans or directions to attack a massive gathering place of red dragon eggs, a Githyanki stronghold. Turning Iron Dragons against the Githyanki and having the party try to prevent 2-3 genocides over the course of the conflict could be terrifying and awesome. Can’t wait for the rest of the Ferrous Dragons.

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +7

      Man, does it ever feel like _everything_ turns into genocide?
      I suppose D&D 5e doesn't lend itself to dedicating a whole session to preventing anyone from spilling wine on the rugs or furniture. If I wanted a chill time with low stakes, I guess a system where Invisibility & Pass Without Trace are both 2nd level spells, might not be the best place for me to start.

  • @Strawberrymilkdrink
    @Strawberrymilkdrink Год назад +24

    or or ORE there are a group of dwarves have that work with Iron dragons their mines are its lair. The dwarves get red dragon repellent, keep any ore that isnt iron (they might get a small percentage), they basically get a giant drill, a way to find a mineral rich place to make a mine And a security system for their new home. The dragon gets a fucking castle of a lair, its food, hoard grows with out it needing to do much work and a city of people with the best weapons possible to defend it and its kin. You could even add that a young iron dragon leaving its parent's nest takes a caravan of dwarves with it to find a place to start a new lair/mine that becomes a satellite for the iron dragon family to expand their kingdom.

  • @thebardbarian5061
    @thebardbarian5061 Год назад +66

    Just got done playing a dnd game where I used a Dungeon Dad monster until 2 AM….. definitely time for another Dungeon Dad episode!

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Год назад

      Which monster?

    • @thebardbarian5061
      @thebardbarian5061 Год назад +1

      @@nicholasfarrell5981 i used the Dream vestige from not to long ago

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Год назад

      @@thebardbarian5061 sweet!

    • @IveBeenWithBruma
      @IveBeenWithBruma Год назад

      Don't use iron dragons. They use a long spanding network of information that will end horribly for your players. Even fully level 20 adventurers could not survive an iron dragon onslaught.

  • @Ditidos
    @Ditidos Год назад +45

    These dragons sounds like they would get along very well with the Hellknights from the Paizoverse. I can definetly see a group of Hellknights hunting the players on behalf of an iron dragon.

    • @GomulDart
      @GomulDart Год назад +3

      reminded me of hellknights too. Like dad mentioned a band of iron knights, lawful neutral, but with an emphasis on might and strength. they make a good combo, could definitely be adapted for 5e. Again basically what dad said; a band of knights devoted to the iron dragon supreme and their empire, maybe they get some clerics and "paladins" or warlocks in addition to generic fighter footmen. A lawful order, not outright malicious, but will do basically anything commanded of them or in service to the ferrous empire. They act as relatively minor agents in mortal affairs for the ferrous, perhaps mainly exist to battle and combat chromatic dragon cultists. Perhaps the ferrous dragons see them as expendable toys and cannon fodder, or maybe they actually value the conviction and lawful nature of these followers and actually value them as loyal pets, a bit like a man and his dog. Lots of interesting homebrew ideas to explore there.

    • @Ditidos
      @Ditidos Год назад +2

      @@GomulDartThere is definetly material for a homebrew Hellknight order if playing within Golarion or the Pact Worlds setting. The ferrous dragons also feel much more at home with the setup of Triaxus over the metalics too. They are very interesting and are the ones covered so far I feel have more meat for a campaign around them.

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem Год назад

      My fave thing is being a hellknight dragonrider.

  • @Mozumin
    @Mozumin Год назад +58

    I don't see why one couldn't just package both the original and 4e lore for this dragon. Since Iron Dragons have a whole society, it wouldn't be too farfetched to think that some of them might become hunters, assassins, or spies!

    • @zacharyhawley1693
      @zacharyhawley1693 Год назад +11

      See the issue is that want to use anything from 4e.

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +5

      I like the idea that, since the eras in which 2e & then 3.5 were set, by the 4e era Ferrous dragons had been so nearly eradicated that most of those who remained were reclusive & adept at subterfuge. By 5e they might be all but unknown, perhaps having formed a hidden society among lesser species with the tacit approval of some metallics.

    • @MogofWar
      @MogofWar Год назад +2

      A lot of what makes the lore so different in 4th Edition is 4th Edition used Eberron as its primary setting, and Eberron had very different dragon lore from the other settings.

    • @TheDragonOfWhi
      @TheDragonOfWhi Год назад +3

      ​@@MogofWar 4e didn't use any setting as it prime setting. There was the 'points if light' idea, but actually most of what it was wanting to do was for it to be 'setting agnostic'. So not muddy a DM's own lore for their homebrew setting. As most DMs used homebrew settings.

    • @Uhhhhhhhhhhh6
      @Uhhhhhhhhhhh6 4 месяца назад

      ​@zacharyhawley1693 I get why people don't like 4e both from its lore and mechanics, but like not everything in that edition was hot garbage y'know. Like Orium dragons are cool as hell, and dungeon dad should seriously do a video on them.

  • @kholtonthebarbarian2590
    @kholtonthebarbarian2590 Год назад +9

    Oh boy!
    My favorite weekly show is back on!

  • @teddymason6069
    @teddymason6069 Год назад +6

    As someone who runs a campaign in a heavily-inspired dark sun world I love the mentions to it. I plan on doing that (rather unoriginal now) idea of putting the infernal machines from Avernus in the world to really rep that Mad Max lifestyle. Using an iron dragon (or something as powerful as one as dark sun's "not supposed to have dragons") could be a nice way to make that fit.
    Long-winded comment but overall, thanks for the dark sun attention and the continued, high quality videos

  • @s0ph053
    @s0ph053 Год назад +22

    Personally I like my idea of the thunder roar and friction/sparks based force breath. I wanted a true cross between metallic and chromatic with not only breath weapons but color showing this off. Now with the idea of ferrous dragons it seems I might try making even more dragons with technically not breath attacks like the thunder roar.

  • @QCreyton
    @QCreyton Год назад +9

    Part of the reason everyone tends to ignore 4e lore is because it's in a different setting. It's a plane within the cosmos of the rest of D&D but it's one that is even less relevant in modern day than Greyhawk.

  • @MrPicklecopter
    @MrPicklecopter Год назад +12

    A pair of Nickel Dragons are called a Dime.

  • @djcuevas1057
    @djcuevas1057 Год назад +7

    Love the cabal theme for the iron dragon. It really fits.

  • @gratuitouslurking8610
    @gratuitouslurking8610 Год назад +18

    The Ferrous Dragons are just... such a wild outlier to the idea of the dragon family. It'd be like gem dragons suddenly popping out of the ether on someone who hasn't been hanging around since 5th ed and then finding Fizban's Treasury of Dragons for the first time.

  • @edwardg8912
    @edwardg8912 10 месяцев назад +2

    9:03 He is the draconic One-For-All

  • @atrution
    @atrution Год назад +14

    Gonna make an Iron Dragon executioner for a dwarf kingdom under a mountain and a Human kingdom in the valley nearby. Using flesh to iron on prisoners brought before it, to function as tribute of iron to the dragon.

  • @avitraangelica9278
    @avitraangelica9278 Год назад +10

    Given that the Githyanki and Red Dragons have a working relationship, it would be interesting to see a situation where a group of Githyanki at war with a clan of iron dragons who have been harassing them to take out their draconic mounts

    • @myheartismadeofstars
      @myheartismadeofstars 6 месяцев назад +1

      What if the Githzerai made a similar deal with the Iron Dragons? Given that Zerai and Yanki hate each other with just as much passion. Zerai aren't as warlike which might annoy Iron Dragons, but they hate the people who ride red dragons so... maybe 🤔

    • @avitraangelica9278
      @avitraangelica9278 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@myheartismadeofstars They ARE both lawful neutral! I feel like they'd have a pretty different Thing going on personally, especially since they have very different philosophies within their alignment. Maybe more of just a non-aggression or mutual defense thing? Iron dragons might want tools which provide psionic protection against the Githyanki, and would probably not mind a convenient cluster of their enemies (as in an attack on the Githzerai) making the hunt more efficient...
      VERY interesting thought. Thank you for letting me think about this again half a year later! ^v^

    • @myheartismadeofstars
      @myheartismadeofstars 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@avitraangelica9278 I think "my enemy of my enemy" is a perfectly acceptable dynamic for them. We know for a FACT that Githzerai WANT a dragon partnership (tried it with Chaos Dragons of all things) and Iron Dragons make more sense!! It's too bad that it seems like the Githzerai can reproduce just fine in Limbo, otherwise I'd suggest Iron Dragons guard their Creches, in exchange the Githzerai show them some form of servitude and help them hunt Githyanki and Red Dragons. Or even a "you protect our eggs, we'll protect yours" type dynamic.

  • @wildmike5707
    @wildmike5707 Год назад +6

    I plan on adding iron dragons to the rise of Tiamat module as a potential ally to the party simply to slay some reds and potentially help in the fight against Tiamat

  • @scifidino5022
    @scifidino5022 6 месяцев назад +1

    13:42 A D&D video was the last place I expected Red Alert music to appear in, but I am all for it!

  • @Penumbra-AoC
    @Penumbra-AoC Год назад +8

    Have you ever made any of your own Monsters for D&D? Perhaps you could feature those as well and or take ideas from your viewers, who I'm sure have and would be willing to share

    • @l.psimer6124
      @l.psimer6124 Год назад

      He made a hag dragon, and there are most likely other originals on the channel

  • @voidaspects9173
    @voidaspects9173 Год назад +143

    "Both dragon types not killing each other on sight is considered treasonous for both sides"
    My brain, immediately:
    Romeo and Juliette dragon Romeo and Juliette please now please i need this

    • @FlintsForge6931
      @FlintsForge6931 Год назад +4

      yes

    • @mugenokami2201
      @mugenokami2201 Год назад +3

      So they both die horribly?

    • @voidaspects9173
      @voidaspects9173 Год назад +8

      @mugenokami2201 no, see, cause they're dragons this time. That's an advantage that the original versions didn't have I think

    • @FlintsForge6931
      @FlintsForge6931 Год назад +3

      @@voidaspects9173 but like , the other character's would be dragons so no advantage again

    • @voidaspects9173
      @voidaspects9173 Год назад +4

      @maximespinosa6931 that's fair but I believe in them
      ...also now I have the scenario of everyone else *not* being a dragon in my head and that sounds incredible. Totally unrelated from the original prompt. But I want to see that story very badly now.

  • @joshuazane3210
    @joshuazane3210 Год назад +24

    If you feel like the dragon well is running dry, consider this a casual reminder that planar dragons (species native to the outer planes) are very much a thing. 😉

    • @KevinVideo
      @KevinVideo Год назад +2

      Definitely not running dry. There's four pages of dragons on the suggestion list. And that's only covering the ones people absolutely want to see covered.

    • @MarMonkey2606
      @MarMonkey2606 Год назад

      and that's not even getting into the fact that we can just make new kinds of dragons. like make a type of dragon for every kind of gemstone there is for example, is anyone up for chatting with a diamond dragon or maybe an alexandrite dragon?

    • @Uhhhhhhhhhhh6
      @Uhhhhhhhhhhh6 4 месяца назад

      ​@@MarMonkey2606 Perhaps...

  • @faceoctopus4571
    @faceoctopus4571 Год назад +1

    5:38 I was thinking maybe it was because 'all those metals are Ferromagnetic.' But that explanation doesn't work because Tungsten is paramagnetic, not ferromagnetic. And Chromium is "antiferromagnetic".

    • @parkershaw3753
      @parkershaw3753 2 месяца назад

      I'm maximizing my engagement with this comment because RUclips showed me the first two lines but then I had close the app and reopen it to actually get it to show me this comment when I clicked on it. Hopefully engagement makes this less of an issue for the next person

    • @parkershaw3753
      @parkershaw3753 2 месяца назад

      That said, my guess is simply that in this case "Ferrous" is because the rest of the dragons in the category fall under the jurisdiction of the Iron Dragons

  • @samcahoon7078
    @samcahoon7078 Год назад +6

    Man I hate when my Dragon gets all wrinkled after a hard day of adventure.

  • @TheStartrek99
    @TheStartrek99 Год назад +6

    There is a dragon empire in my setting, but the sovereign of the empire is a Solar Dragon (the Pathfinder version). I'm thinking these guys will make a great police/ covert ops force.

  • @skippy9273
    @skippy9273 Год назад +3

    While not a goldmine, the ferrous drqgons still provide a wealth of resources for interesting dragon lore.
    Cobalt dragon next please!

  • @BallisticSoul6
    @BallisticSoul6 Год назад +7

    Ayyy I always love the dragon episodes !

  • @XaviusNight
    @XaviusNight Год назад +2

    The mention of coming into contact with Dwarves and maybe striking a deal gave me an idea with the rest of the Iron Dragons' lore:
    A group of dwarven miners stumble across a sealed chamber, in which lies a heavily wounded Iron Dragon, who barely survived its clan being torn apart by a particularly old and powerful Red Dragon who has also been terrorizing the rest of the local lands off and on for centuries. The dwarves start nursing the Iron Dragon back to health, caring for its wounds and listening to its story. When a group of invaders from the Underdark (perhaps illithids or something else especially nasty and rapacious) come to try raiding the dwarves for slaves/meals, the Iron Dragon moves to save its saviours, as is only lawfully correct to do. Afterwards, the dwarves adopt the Iron Dragon into their city as an honorary member of the clan, accept its grudges as their own and it accepts and adds *their* grudges to its own. Some two or three hundred years later, the dwarves are getting ready to march on the Red Dragon with a full force, and just need a group of skilled adventurers to pre-check the mountain and lair of the vicious and ancient Red Wyrm to make sure the army doesn't march into a trap meant for either them or their Iron Dragon grand elder.
    Rewards: a minor share of the Red's loot, and the amiability of this large and prosperous clan of dwarves led in part by a powerful Iron Dragon.

  • @ianwenck4158
    @ianwenck4158 Год назад +1

    The thought of a dragon digging its burrow like a dog digging a hole is now stuck in my head and i can never think of dragons the same way again. I had always thought of them just living in caves that already existed but now thinking about them digging their own burrows all i can see is like a dog at the beach digging a hole but a dragon.

  • @chansigma834
    @chansigma834 Год назад +2

    I really appreciate hearing the Super Mario RPG remake soundtrack in here, and REALLY love hearing the DRG soundtrack right when you started discussing dwarven relations

  • @chrisschoenthaler5184
    @chrisschoenthaler5184 Год назад +2

    A high-level party working with Iron Dragons to uproot the Purple Dragon Mafia and expunge their kind from the continent would be one hell of a campaign.

  • @Srioll
    @Srioll Год назад +3

    I know this is probably not in your current video template, but it would be really cool to have an overview of the whole dragon family. I get glimpses of them from each dragon video you produce, and it's really interesting. Would be amazing to have it all in one place! Love your videos :)

  • @brickhammer04
    @brickhammer04 Год назад +1

    Always good when Dungeon Dad covers a forgotten dragon from older editions. Loving the idea of ferrous dragons though I'm not huge on them being completely separate from regular metallic dragons for some reason. Despite that, I think it's still at least a good way to surprise your players if they think all metallics are good guys by default!

  • @Aracwo
    @Aracwo Год назад +3

    Maybe the cloak and dagger approach are the tactics employed by the cult you talked about, it can add a bit of variety in the ways the antagonists (or allies) act

  • @nicolasv6031
    @nicolasv6031 Год назад +1

    I know you're currently working on ferrus dragons, but I can't wait for when you begin to cover gem dragons! Especially the Obsidian Dragon; I'm currently creating Shadow Dragon variants of the different life stages of the Obsidian Dragon for a future campaign. Love your work, keep being you!

  • @mementomori771
    @mementomori771 Год назад

    I think whats makes this channel so fun is how it has a little bit of something for every player type

  • @mathewmcgee8029
    @mathewmcgee8029 Год назад +3

    Have you thought about doing some of Kara-Tur like the Lung Dragons? I'd also love to see what you could dig up about the Radiant Dragons.

  • @nickh3205
    @nickh3205 Год назад +2

    Can’t wait to find out more on those other 4 dragon types, especially the Chrome dragon

  • @angellowe3410
    @angellowe3410 10 месяцев назад +4

    Ah yes, reaching my 20s to realize that childhood was about dinosaurs, but we’re adults now, we’re more mature and cultured than that. We like Dragons.

  • @TatsuRyuByo
    @TatsuRyuByo Год назад

    Please keep these dragon vids coming! A friend of mine is running a campaign where essentially our party is a new group joining the "Knights of Bahamut". He and I are collabing to flesh put story hooks and we have a REALLY interesting story finish revolving around other dragons in your past videos! I have a campaign that just after watching this video he and I decided to combine the 2 campaigns as the one im running will take place years after the event endings of his. Given your enjoyment I would love to pick your brain personally but it's fine xD just watching this vids is super useful! Keep it up man!

  • @BenRGamer
    @BenRGamer Год назад +4

    I feel like the heat metal lair action could have an alternate use- instead of targeting a party member, it could target all iron not being worn, making 'danger zones' the party could have to avoid in order to be more tactical in combat- don't stand on the iron.
    Plus having a multitude of entire iron statues literally glow red whenever the dragon gets mad is a killer visual.

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +1

      All those iron statues made my mind go straight to armies of iron golems...

    • @rashakor
      @rashakor Год назад +2

      @@prophetzarquonMe too. And at that level of heat metal, the iron golems generate to 100% health in just a few rounds!

  • @עומרשרייבר-ל4ר
    @עומרשרייבר-ל4ר Год назад +15

    While I do find the fact that those dragons arent metallic dragons despit literally being named after metals to be pretty weird, those ferrous dragons are pretty interesting. Now I wonder if they have a chaotic counterpart llike with chromatics and metallics.

    • @prophetzarquon
      @prophetzarquon Год назад +2

      Mercury dragons were all Chaotic Good (until 4e when they became unaligned)

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic Год назад +2

      @@prophetzarquon Worth keeping in mind that in 4e, pretty much all 'good' monsters had unaligned in the statblock because it was assumed that PCs wouldn't be fighting the good ones. So most mercury dragons were probably still Good, but those the PCs fought were obviously Unaligned because if they weren't, they wouldn't be fighting!
      (There's about a gajillion problems with this logic, but that was the 4E logic.)

    • @GomulDart
      @GomulDart Год назад +3

      4e forgot not all of players are good aligned xD@@Draxynnic

    • @Draxynnic
      @Draxynnic Год назад +1

      @@GomulDart Indeed, or at least generally on the side of good. I think they did also encourage DMs to modify statblocks as appropriate, and even class features, so a bit of houseruling for evil campaigns was encouraged. (I do recall, for instance, advice about switching radiant damage to necrotic for the skills of evil paladins and clerics.)

  • @antisanity_
    @antisanity_ Год назад +3

    I can imagine a scenario where an iron dragon makes its nest somewhere where there also happens to be a population of rust monsters, and the dragon ends up having to deal with these damn things constantly finding their way into its hoard and eating its treasure, and no matter how many it kills or turns to iron, more just keep coming thanks to the absolute buffet of iron to rust and consume that the dragon keeps accumulating

  • @DawnOfElaris
    @DawnOfElaris Год назад +4

    Not sure how relevant this is to other worlds, but according to the forgotten realms, "Ferrous dragons have more iron concentrations in their blood." which is also stated as the reason they can sense nonprecious metals. This might be the (lore-wise) reason for them being called ferrous Dragons instead of just because irons are the biggest, though if it is or not isn't specifically stated.

  • @warriorfromthevalley
    @warriorfromthevalley Год назад +8

    I am now extremely curious about Tungsten Dragons

    • @Attaxalotl
      @Attaxalotl Год назад +2

      Heavy Boi
      Almost impossible to pick up with one hand! It came well packaged in a wooden crate with lots of foam. I'm gonna smash stuff with it.

    • @yungo1rst
      @yungo1rst Год назад +2

      Could use their materials for adamatine, I think. 3.5 lore on metallurgy.

  • @Jawmax
    @Jawmax Год назад +1

    "Mr. Gruaghlothor, Mr. Gruaghlothor! Do you really expect us to believe it is just a bodyguard?"
    *sigh* "I am Iron Dragon."

  • @porakiyadraekojin3390
    @porakiyadraekojin3390 Год назад +2

    Whelp, another potential menu item for my homebrewed Forge Wasps in their "colonization" phase, or potential ally, if an Iron dragon can direct them toward a red dragon or other chromatic dragon with a substantial metal horde.
    Aside from that, I'm really loving these guys, and their breathe weapon being fire and electric is a simplified version of how I see a purple dragon's 3 breaths working (cone is 2 fire to 1 lightning, line is 2 lightning to 1 fire, and the penetrating bolt of explosive doom is 1 fire to 1 lightning).
    I'm also loving the warlock patron and half dragon transformation ideas (particularly because I was recently looking up some dragon patron warlock homebrews for ideas).
    And, on a sode tangent to that, imagine an amethyst dragon draconic shard being the patron of a hexbladr warlock. You literally have your patron inhabiting a crystal shard attached to your sword

    • @IdiotinGlans
      @IdiotinGlans Год назад +2

      I don't know much about your homebrew Forge Wasps, but my gut tells me you may wanna look up Ferlon, which is basically a Wasp Dragon that lays eggs in humanoids.

    • @porakiyadraekojin3390
      @porakiyadraekojin3390 Год назад

      @IdiotinGlans oooo, that sounds interesting. I'll be sure to look it up. If you want, I could tell you about my Forge Wasps. I have a whole Google doc for them and a stat block made thanks to the wonderful people on the Dungeon Dad discord

    • @IdiotinGlans
      @IdiotinGlans Год назад

      @@porakiyadraekojin3390 I would love to see it, thanks :)

    • @porakiyadraekojin3390
      @porakiyadraekojin3390 Год назад

      @IdiotinGlans awesome. Gove me about an hour as I'm at work currently XD

    • @porakiyadraekojin3390
      @porakiyadraekojin3390 Год назад

      @IdiotinGlans docs.google.com/document/d/1VeKk97ZzWpH8NaczzY5NgMgknRxjUD8IMbfSy_zd3kA/edit?usp=drivesdk here we go. Let me know of the stat block itself is legible. For the tldr: they are social flightless fire Wasps that are immune to Fire and weak to Cold, and can be rather gimmicky when fighting them. They go around gathering metal for their nests and armor, and can freely cast heat metal, including on themselves. They have a similar rocky relationship with dwarves that iron dragons have. For the colonization phase, the essentials deconstruct their metal hive, make armor and wings, and then go dragon hunting. They have a venom that ignores legendary resistances to help them. Females lay eggs that hatch into larvae that eat the dragon (alive), and then the larvae become adults and use the dragon's hoard to start a new nest

  • @vileluca
    @vileluca Год назад +1

    13:44 HOLY CRAP is that Frank Klepacki? MY DUDE you have good taste ahaha

  • @Discolittle
    @Discolittle Год назад +1

    Cabal stomp is a great choice of music for the description bit on the ferrous dragons and Gruaghlothor. Somehow it just fits well

  • @kylehildebrand2942
    @kylehildebrand2942 Год назад +1

    This was an amazingly fun video to watch and I love the Iron Dragon, I would love to see a video made about the Seugathi of Pathfinder.

  • @RobTheNewb
    @RobTheNewb Год назад +1

    I have used a few of these dragon already, Love your videos a ton.

  • @ianshreves1130
    @ianshreves1130 Год назад

    I have been waiting for this video for so long! Thank you so much!

  • @opsecmedic
    @opsecmedic Год назад +1

    Perfect timing. I am working in a bank by myself tonight and I needed some good listening material in order to make time go faster.

  • @Slugger1990
    @Slugger1990 Год назад

    that steel dragoness art at 11:41 is gorgeous.

  • @xanderblackmist5528
    @xanderblackmist5528 Год назад +3

    Most 4th edition lore existing
    Reaction of Players and DMs alike: "I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it."

  • @camaslamian8514
    @camaslamian8514 2 месяца назад

    3:29 beedle hit my nostalgia like a truck 😅

  • @StyleshStorm
    @StyleshStorm Год назад +1

    Early for once! New BG3 player here now discovering the DND multiverse through it!

  • @chickensky1121
    @chickensky1121 Год назад +3

    My one concern about adding so many dragon species to a D&D world - and especially dragon species that live in communities - is that it really feels like, at some point, dragons will become so ridiculously common that everyone's entire existence is defined by them. Each dragon species has to have a large enough population to sustain itself, considering how low their reproductive rates are, and if you want one species of dragon to be 'rare' the other species have to have much larger populations by comparison. And unless dragons spend most of their time hibernating (which maybe they do) they're going to need to eat a LOT to sustain themselves, so at that point the world might as well be ruled by dragons. I guess the game is literally called Dungeons & *Dragons* so this shouldn't be surprising, but IDK, I've always thought of dragons being pretty rare creatures as-is.
    Also why aren't my bois the Tungsten dragons the most powerful Ferrous dragons, Tungsten is dope >:p

  • @michaelkramerados3751
    @michaelkramerados3751 Год назад

    Thank you so much for this!

  • @ImmortalLemon
    @ImmortalLemon Год назад +1

    I’m imagining a kingdom that borders a bog but is just outside the iron dragons range of influence. And the party is sent to protect a caravan with a shit load of bog iron (one of the densest iron ores you can possibly find) from a black dragons minions that are around the area. And of course the party is getting this iron to trade with an iron dragon so that it can come down and help fight the black dragon

  • @rwyssbrod
    @rwyssbrod 10 месяцев назад

    NIce job! I love how you share the stat blocks!

  • @MrGumbymoto
    @MrGumbymoto Год назад

    I knew this vid wasn't going to be about this, but I am now reminded of the board game "Iron Dragon" w/ draconic-like steam locomotives and such set in a fantasy world. I now need to find a way to shoehorn this into my next dnd campaign.

  • @UWU-x
    @UWU-x Год назад +1

    Love the 3:30 am post the night owls appreciate it

  • @greatazuredragon
    @greatazuredragon Год назад

    Great episode, thanks for the update.

  • @dragonlordthefrostbitten
    @dragonlordthefrostbitten Год назад

    19:26 damn I’m living next to an iron dragon. Every morning I feel more tired than I was when I went to sleep

  • @victorvaldez8869
    @victorvaldez8869 Год назад +2

    Sleepy me just had a silly idea for a Dragon in the Spell Jammer setting. It hatches in the Colossal size category, mainly for the line "That's no moon!" when a ship comes across one hatching. Because why not throw in a gratuitous Star Wars reference?

  • @aeternusdoleo4531
    @aeternusdoleo4531 Год назад +1

    That succession of the dragon sovereign reminds me of Modron promotion. Very similar mechanic.

  • @TheCeekon
    @TheCeekon Год назад

    I asked for ferrous dragons a few videos ago. So happy :)

  • @SavaWithHardToReadLastName
    @SavaWithHardToReadLastName Год назад +4

    Can you make a video about Sardior? i think that would be a pretty good idea especially since he isnt weel known even tho he was the god of Gem dragons and neutral alligned dragons

    • @KevinVideo
      @KevinVideo Год назад

      Sardior is a named dragon. He doesn't do lore videos specifically. However, the ruby dragon is on the list, so Sardior will at least be brought up during that.

  • @martin__green
    @martin__green 6 месяцев назад

    Hmm. At 11:47...what's the armor/equipment being used by these adventurers?

  • @festus_panda8138
    @festus_panda8138 Год назад

    man i am using all the dragons you’ve covered in a 1 on 1 campaign and i CANNOT wait

  • @frostphoenix8256
    @frostphoenix8256 10 месяцев назад

    Building an age of sail setting right now with iron as a key resource... Many thanks, as always o7.

  • @FilmGuy7000
    @FilmGuy7000 Год назад

    Okay, I need to know what this background video is from 4:15 it looks seriously badass.

  • @Attaxalotl
    @Attaxalotl Год назад +2

    My vote is Cobalt dragons next.
    They have magnet breath! Magnets are cool!

  • @mementomori771
    @mementomori771 Год назад

    13:43 is this command and conquer red alert 3

  • @billyhickman8123
    @billyhickman8123 Год назад

    Good vid bro like getting info on the lesser known monsters out there.

  • @TheUglyGoblin
    @TheUglyGoblin Год назад

    This is so dang cool to see!
    Ages ago I made one of my player’s green dragon born monks, turn into an iron dragon but couldn’t find anything on them at the time XD soooo curious to see what lore actually exists on them XD thank you! 🙏

  • @gregorysivits3605
    @gregorysivits3605 Год назад

    Absolutely great video, as always!

  • @thetux459
    @thetux459 Год назад +2

    Every time I hear "heavy metal" in this, my chemist brain screams "GOLD IS HEAVIER THAN IRON!"

    • @cephelos1098
      @cephelos1098 Год назад

      I want real heavy metal dragons - where are my Bismuth and Lead dragons?

  • @Harrowed2TheMind
    @Harrowed2TheMind Год назад +2

    Great job as always, but I have a small criticism: I'm a little disappointed in the Iron Dragon's AC in their later age categories, in particular in their Ancient form. Their (litterally) iron-clad armored scales offer only a meager Armor Class of 19, which is the same as their regular Adult form (whilst conserving the same Dexterity score, no less) ? An Ancient Red Dragon has an AC of 23, by comparison. I wouldn't imagine the Iron Dragons' scales to be significantly weaker to that of Red Dragons, personally.

  • @subakuryu
    @subakuryu Год назад

    Hey, hey, HEY! I know that intro music! That's from Chopper Attack on the 64!
    Glad to hear it before diving in!

  • @carloblanch3893
    @carloblanch3893 Год назад

    Loved this Video and I hope will cover all the Ferrous Dragons (my faves were Cobalt and Tungsten)
    Also please do Sheens

  • @NikolaiManning
    @NikolaiManning Год назад

    I love the Ferrous Dragons, my personal favorite is the Cobalt Dragon. It has a magnetic breathweapon that you cannot even see, and forces a Bullrush check against everyone in the area of effect.
    I usually combine my other favorite monster as a half cobalt dragon. The Lodestone Marauder from 3.5 MM4 has magnetic abilities, too, so adding a magnetic breath weapon and other abilities make them crowd control beasts.

  • @shiro4833
    @shiro4833 Год назад

    27:47 Agreed, purple be dope.

  • @pykeembers1575
    @pykeembers1575 Год назад

    Great video. Looking forward to more ferrous dragons. Still asking for ethergaunts though

  • @ltrigga219
    @ltrigga219 Год назад

    Amazing, this opens up so many possibilities for religions and entire geographical areas, not to mention dragon wars.

  • @odinulveson9101
    @odinulveson9101 Год назад +1

    Awesome art for the most recent dragons! Could you get original art for at least Orange and Yellow dragons? Since no new official WotC art have been made for them. And please have them be winged, give em wing setup like copper, brass. Chromatics lack the arrow/ kite shapes. Fits well since they are both semi-aquatic. Purple, brown and gray do have official art

  • @dmpoaca
    @dmpoaca Год назад

    19:21 as someone who has this condition this infographic is hilarious 😂 now my players can feel my pain of sleeping as much as you can and still being tired!

  • @sovereigncharm288
    @sovereigncharm288 Год назад

    I second-glanced(?) when I heard the Cabal music in the background. How shockingly fitting, too.

  • @leonardbiesinger9099
    @leonardbiesinger9099 Год назад

    Lets go i had my personal 5e Translation but this one is way better thx man.