Everything is provocative to Russia. They act like bully who suggest that just Russia can be offensive but others must just comply and do not defense or offense against them
One might almost think Russia does not possess any diplomatic ability other than threats of violence. The only variations being threats involving conventional weapons and threats of nuclear holocaust.
They really are developmentally stunted. The culture has a deep-seated win-lose mentality. They literally cannot conceive of win-win. This is the basis of adult interactions and is at the core of diplomacy.
Partially true but Andrew don’t forget they can follow through with their threats on a nuclear strike if that would occur between the United States and Russia Russia would be obliterated and only a very little bit of America would even be left in tact in my humble opinion America would survive as an entity Russia would night I can’t believe Putin would do it but you got a remember and I’m a registered nurse I think this man has Parkinson’s he’s on steroids plus he’s power-hungry and he’s desperate and I think that explains some of his actions in simpler terms don’t forget as crazy as he may get he can always push that button. On a personal note It’s a Russian hacker man has a single patriot in there then they need to Bring an abrupt end to his dictatorial madman policies! he is a threat to Russia.
Russia has been trying to negotiate for 8 years. What you're not told is that the CIA overthrew Ukraine in 2014, it wasn't a revolution. Since then Ukraine has built more than 25 biological weapons labs and has been bombing Eastern Ukraine for the entire time. Eastern Ukraine, as a result of the Holodomor was populated by Russians - they speak Russian, they have a bit of a different culture than the Ukrainians, and there were victims as much as the people who were removed (through starvation) from Stalin's forced collectivization. Russia has, for 8 years, been trying to negotiate with Ukraine to stop to bombing of Eastern Ukraine, and for them no to join NATO since they have been twice invaded through Ukraine before. This is the ONLY thing they wanted, and Ukraine simply refused. Russia has stated repeatedly, that they regard NATO inclusion of Ukraine as a threat to Russia, a serious threat. If this is the case, they will use nuclear weapons to end this war if they must. And all this because the CIA overthrew the nation 8 years ago.
"Will this be provocative?" So sick of this appeasement question. "Provocation" is just Russian rationalization throwing a temper tantrum like a 3 year old instead of acting like an adult and engaging productively to seek what it wants via collaboration and diplomacy.
@@alexsilent5603 The USSR had deployed to Cuba IRBMs carrying 1MT+ thermonuclear warheads just 90 miles off the US coast, the US's response was unsurprising and quite reasonable.
Russian electricity only counts for ~10% though, and Finland can replace that by increased domestic generation, from Sweden or a bit of both. Russian gas will likely get cut too, but its less than 5% of their total supply.
We were actually thinking on our side should we cut our *buying* of Russian electricity as part of the economic sanctions and embargoes against Russia. Our grid operator said already like month ago they were technically preparing and already pretty much ready to do such action, in case political leadership decided to do add electricity on the embargo package.
If only everyone else was not acting like the us and were sooo worried about virtue signaling of “ciomate change “ rather than save their countries. Also as embarrassing as Biden
Russia is winning according to this US marine. A lot of people didn't expect real artillery, they thought it was Call of Duty Modern Warfare II (2). They have no idea what a slow methodical advance is, and even less of how the Russians tend to fight despite all the evidence from Syria etc. -Tasha Tsu_Vachel Russia Makes Slow & Steady Progress in Donbas: Update on Russian Military Ops in Ukraine Link removed Russia is Destroying the Ukrainian Army US Spent 8 Years Building Manually search for the title
Russia gained the ruins of Mariupol (for now), NATO gained Swedens huge military industry's jewels, and Finland's million strong active, modern reserve (and ONLY country, who builds ice breaker ships.) Russia will be on ice-age next 15 years at least, and its gonna take 30-50 years to get to pre-war status. Or who knows. There is no going back for sure.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Russia going break you with it s ice breaker, a country like Russia will always survive they ain’t going nowhere and Ukraine will lost all the East
Donna Paulin, Putin can tell Finland anything he wants to. But just because he tells someone something doesn't mean that it will get done. Putin's hand is so "over played" at this point that he's throwing any and everything against the the wall in hopes that something will stick.
Right now the Russian military is struggling against a largely volunteer Ukrainian force who has "some" western military tech and who the US is feeding intelligence to in support. So anyone who believes Russia would expand its war = has a hole in their head. If Russia were to engage NATO or Finland who have a sizeable competent professional army on hand = they would lose on a massive scale. This is all bluster - as usual.
"Some"western military support? The US alone has spent or is planning to spend more than the entire annual military budget of Russia in the course of a couple of months. I keep hearing how Russia is an agressive military force in Europe and Asia yet USA has a military budget 10 times that of Russia. That looks to me like USA has plans to be THE dominant military force on the planet. So much for "world peace" from the business end of a gun.
I agree 100% that is just stupid talk. The just want to scare people and make them watch the news or view it on youtube. You have to remember once Putin takes (IF) over the Ukraine he has t occupy it and that in its self will take a large amount of troops.
@@paulharris553 Ever since at least the cold war era, the U.S. has drooled at weakening and containing the Russian military. The same for China as well.
Does anyone recall 2 mo ago Russia had 150 000 troops on Ukraine's borders and said they were doing exercises, and they weren't going to invade. Anyone remember that? Anyone? Anyone at all?
@Hawk of Facts Bahaha!! You do know Turkey has been supplying Ukraine with weapons, right ! Lmao !! You propagandists are funny !! China .. notice how you don’t dare say Russia, alone ! Inept , Russ needs a friend to help them !! Lol!!! China and Russia have a long history, that I’m sure China hasn’t forgot about !! Lmao !!
Of all the countries Russia could choose to pick a fight with - Finalnd and Sweden are far more equipped trained supplied and allied than Ukraine were (previous to nato and allied support) Finland and Sweden have such a well trained and organised armed force/air force-they would embarass Putin straight away.
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime you just say the same thing over and over , it’s like you’re getting paid to spread disinformation and misinformation... trolls will be trolls , can’t wait until we boot you from YT, too !!
Putin: Why are you thinking of joining NATO? Finland: You scare us. Putin: If you don't stop I'll do to you what I'm doing to Ukraine. Finland: Is that suppose to make us trust you?
Putin: Why are you thinking of joining NATO? Finland: You scare us. Putin: If you don't stop I'll do to you what I'm doing to Ukraine. Finland: If you have any troops and equipment left after Ukraine is done with you, you are welcome to try 😉
You missed out the finale: Finland:: Right then, we are joining NATO. Russia: We will destroy you! Finland. Not if we are in NATO. NATO: Hello, welcome to NATO. Russia: You are ganging up on us! Sob, sob. NATO: Go away Yuri.
Putin: why are you joining Nato? Finland: Old sleepy want us to join so he can point his finger to you thru our border. Putin: Is that so, ok i will send you my Big finger if that happens.
@@lescobrandon8045 Thank you, I've read this many times on YT that the USSR lost to Finland, typical idiocy on YT. It is true Finland gave them a beating initially, but with numbers and time the USSR won the conflict.
@@mfh6982 Pyrrhic victory at best. They lost a lot of soldiers during that conflict, and ultimately opened them up to Nazi invasion. Also, many at the time concluded that Russia was seeking to conquer Finland and install a puppet state, that objective was ultimately a failure. They did get their initial publicly stated demands and more; but I wouldn't call it a victory.
@@Niros8889 Call it what ever you want, Finland did step down and capitulated. The USSR lost a lot of solders, it was a routing in favor of the Finns. But this is precisely how the USSR did things, they were horribly managed militarily as Stalin purged more than 300 generals due to his paranoia. It's what all dictators do they replace competency with loyalists, because they themselves succeeded in power by way of their own coup detat and therefore always fearing the next coup is coming for them. Russia lost an enormous number of solders in WW2 that far outnumbered any other nation resulting from incompetency. For God's sake they lost nearly 90,000 solders in the battle for Berlin in roughly ten days of battle against a broken army of old men and children, the last gasps of Germany. In addition to 250,000+ wounded casualties. The USSR's focus on Finland during this time had no consequence on the flood gates of the Nazi's with 3-4 million troops and massive quantities of armament. The Nazi's were coming no matter what.
Have you seen his generals speak to him? They are scared shitless of him, they'll tell him what he wants to hear, nothing else. Don't write off another front opening up. Question is, if that did happen would his generals overthrow him before he has a tantrum and starts throwing nukes at people?
If I was the general and Putin said "Go to the front line and see what is the problem", I'd say "Why don't you go?", knowing full well it will be my last words.
@Dean - Finland have 200000 troops ready atm. And 900000 in reserve ..and one of the largest stocks of ammunition at storage, in the area - I’m not worried, unless they drop the big ones
It would be appropriate to mention General Petraeus's current job, Partner, KKR, and Chairman of the KKR Global Institute which has several defense contractors in it's portfolio. I generally find his observations interesting and informative, but his direct benefit from defense spending should be disclosed. Pretty much all the former generals that go on cable news shows are current defense industry executives or lobbyists.
Spending conspiricy aside, it would appear you acknowledge he is one of the top consultants on the defense industry food chain so it would be incumbent to consider what the man has to say don't you think? I suspect this man knows more about what is going on in this war than any of the users on this thread. Thanks for confirming the man's credentials. You can't be too careful nowadays.
Russia is hardly in a position to start a conflict on another front. Be reminded as well that China has some border and territorial deputes with Russia, now would be the ideal time, with Russia's defenses severely strained, to move in.
If Brittany was a random American who got arrested for drug paraphernalia in Russia, we wouldn't be talking about her... She should be treated as if she was another person who broke the laws of a country as a tourist.
TY you are "correct". nothing about her conduct and "possession". but we should speak to another sovereign nation (russia or anyone else). "hey, listen she can dribble a basketball well, she has a bunch of butch tattoos, she is african american AND a lesbian" so you must let ms. grier go. and how lesbian groups claim she will be tortured because she is homosexual; but the (honorable) marine in the prison for a fight with a russian cop (no video, no injuries) does not get attention from the WNBA (and he is not a lesbian) so the marine should stay and the "lesbian" is needed at home by her "wife". the one marine was released. listen professional sports makes money in the US as we know billion$. so they can "feed" and get this on the news. it has been over 18yrs. since seeing professional sport game. unless someone "paid" me i would never go to a "sporting" game.
Once she heard the news about Russia's plans for Ukraine she should of gotten her American as outta there. I work with Russia's in the States and they said, "Russian do this, this is why so many Russian's fled the country and now there relatives are trapped. My Russian co-workers family live near the Ukrainian border and can hear the bombs. They know that the Ukrainian's and there Ukrainian can easily hit there city if they wanted too.
@@afg3643 The Russians picked her up and are holding her because of her celiberity and usefulness as a bargining chip. Its funny how so many people who want to make this a culture war issue by pitting an African America lesbian female with "butch" tattoos against a US Marine,didn't really have much to say about his arrest before they had something to play it off against. Many of these same people were Putin fans up to a few months ago and many still are.They just don't say it out loud like they used to.
@@gwillis9797 She was there to do a job where women basketball players are paid more then they are in the states. She should have had no more reason to get out of Russia over invading Ukraine then all the Russian men playing in the NHL. Now knowing that, she should have made sure if she intended to hang around, that she would keep her nose clean and not give Ivan any reason to pick her up.
Irrespective of the prospect of membership in NATO, open aggression toward Finland would SEEM like an unthinkable blunder to anyone who has studied history. This is a nation whose independence and autonomy has been maintained and recognized for a LONG time. Many centuries ago, the ancient Vikings tried making an incursion there and got sent home with their tails between their legs -- never to return. In the centuries to follow, attempts by other such hostile empires have been met with similar results. On a modern world stage, I can't imagine this working out well for Putin or Russia as a whole. As the old saying goes -- Putin might be crazy, but he's not stupid. Or IS he? This will tell.
Any claim by Russia that they feel 'threatened' by Finland or any other NATO country along their border is ludicrous B.S.- Merely a lame justification for them to continue enacting aggressive military action- not defensive..... these European countries have more positive directions to head towards, not thinking of invading other countries as Putin/Russia aspires to
I mean, NATO is an alliance purely against Russia. I’m sure you would feel threatened if Mexico and Canada united with Russia and allowed Russia to move military infrastructure close to our borders
It’s not about invansion it’s about Russians losing their SLAVIC way of life . They don’t want a US , French style liberal society . They want a masculine tough society that is proud to be RUSSIAN. Idk why you guys over and over again just disregard every reason russia gives for military action and instead try time and time again to force their hand Everyone in America - “oh trans is your identity ! We must make you feel included !” Everyone in America but in respects to Russia - “screw ur way of life it’s our way or no way” No one thinks China is going to invade California. Do we want Chinese bases in Tijuana ??, NOOOOO Why is it so hard for msnbc watchers to use their own advice and logic , taste your own medicine , treat others , HOW WE WANT TO BE TREATED , No one even considers the fact that Crimea is 90% Russian speaking , Donbas , nearly 90% Russian speaking . In 2014 , Crimean and Donbas citizens rallied for the Russian separatist. Those people DONT want to be with ukraine . Does the western media care that those Russian Ukrainian feel oppressed ? NOPPPEEE
@@texanborn7747 Finland and other European countries are not a threat to Russia. No one wants to invade Russia. This is Russian aggression at its finest and they've used this excuse for decades to justify their wars.
The relentless twisting of facts by the western mainstream media have kept their audiences in the dark, leaving little, if any room for debate. Judging by the majority of comments, the amount of uninformed and uneducated people is simply disturbing.
The expansion of NATO in late 1990's was justified on the basis of a imaginary "Russian threat". The break up of Warsaw Pact was a sign of Moscow's intent to move away from the Cold War politics., and NATO on the other hand, was not disbanded. In fact, it grew even bigger. Ironically, today we see the same imaginary "Russian threat" being used in a US-led effort to gobble up the remaining few neutral countries and incorporate them into the ever-expanding NATO alliance. Europe is on the brink of becoming American Imperial Legion. This is evident by the ongoing campaign to strip the Europeans of their national identity and pride and make them an instrument of the US foreign policy where they will be used as pawns to fight and die under the blue flag of NATO for strictly US interests in it's ultimate quest to the East. Bringing more troops and weapons to the Russian border will not bring stability in Europe. It's a recipe for disaster.
General Petraeus is one of the most outstanding military personality , I am very impressed with his realistic outlook and his acumen. I like him talk so truthfully and bluntly.
The fact that Russia even thinks it can go around telling other countries what they can and cannot do is an abomination. How did we allow Russia to get this big?
I think the last think Russia needs or wants is to open a second front. They spent months preparing for Ukraine, and look how that turned out. And as Finland at least is on its way to NATO status, it does run the risk of still pulling part or all of NATO in. It’d definitely be a bad move.
We will stand as strongly by Finland as we do by Ukraine. The Russian Federation under Putin has made a huge mistake that will not be forgiven for decades.
Preemptive strike on Finland?! Have you been paying attention to what's been happening in Ukraine? Not a sane chance. If putin did it would just hasten his demise greatly.
Besides, the UK effectively closed the window to a Russian preemptive strike on Finland (and Sweden too) when it signed a defense treaty with Helsinki a few days ago. If the Russians attack Finland, the UK is at war with Russia which triggers article 5 NATO involvement. The Brits (who almost certainly coordinated this at least with the United States) pretty much extended NATO protection to Finland and Sweden before they officially even applied to join the NATO alliance.
@@TheLAGopher - if you read the treaty you will see that this sadly only is a political declaration. There is even especially stated that it isn't legally binding (at least the Swedish translation says so and hence I assume the English version states the same)
They also dont have the resources for it, unless they choose to simply air raid them, but that would lead to a guaranteed retaliation all the way back to Moscow.
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime you making that ruble , to buy some sugar ?? Bahaha!! At least you still have RUclips ... lmao!! Iron curtain people are funny !! Backwards, but funny!!
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime, wow. Project much Comrade? I’ve looked at your home page, Ivan. You’re a pro-Putin Russian Troll. Propaganda straight from the Russian State itself.
@@unoimright5153 Forget the American Iron Curtain. What about people who lived north of Hadrians' Wall and didn't go through the Dark Ages, like your ancestors did? That's why you're runted and stunted and shallow-minded as a typical white person.
@@joelyates2404 Only the US had the resources to do something like that. You're trying to compare the US military capability to that of a country which has a 10-times smaller economy than the US.
@Straight white unvaccinated male First of all of course we would, yes Secondly Russia is already embroiled in a draining war in Ukraine Finally, Finland would love revenge for the winter war of 1939
The only nation have nothing to doing inside nato is turkey. A autocrat country . I don t undestand why turkey is inside nato!! Finland and sweed have to join nato that s it!!! F… erdogan
Finland has a 810 mi border with Russia. If you think Putin is gonna sit back while strategic missiles are literally parking up against his fenceline, You ARE nuts. This is exactly why Russia Sent ICBMs to Cuba --- the presence of American ICBMs in Turkey. It took the neutralization of a NATO Ally to ward off WW3.
Putin probably wants to be encircled by NATO...his country can remain politically and economically isolated and under the thumb if the kleptocrats. He's pretty much burning his country to the ground to secure his own retirement.
The Russian military doesn't have the resources to run two separate offensives while also ensuring domestic defense. Putin's desire for total victory in Ukraine has come at the cost of the overall weakening of Russia's position on the global stage.
Exactly. Ukraine has turned into a big problem for Russia. Finland has been prepared to fight Russia for years. Russia definitely won't try anything with Finland.
Finland and 800 miles of border is one big head ache for Putin , when he has very little manpower to deploy to protect that flank , plus the other regions where NATO is bolstering its forces , in the meanwhile he has a protracted/stalemate ? war , and massive sanctions with the prospect of cold war 2 now in play , which based on the last one, will require some serious cash , and NATO presently isn't short of that with a combined memebers spend of $1,2 trillion (2021) and two new members about to add in to that !
Putin is his own worst enemy. The best way to weaken NATO would be for Putin to step down. If Putin wasn't running rampage around eastern Europe there would be little incentive to be in NATO.
why would 800(or 1,500)miles of border with any other European country be a big headache or threat to Putin? NATO and other alliances were formed to protect adjacent countries from a historically antagonistic-aggressive Russia/USSR not the other way around.
@@TJKillip The Russian have an ingrained historical fear of invasion from the west. It wasn't just Germany in WW2. The Germans invaded Russia in WW1 and the French in 1812 when Napolean captured Moscow. Going back further in time, the Swedes and Polish have marched into Russia. In the Russian mind, they sometimes tend to not look at things as they are but what they could be in a worst case senario. That would be a future where NATO and or the EU with an expanding population,looks east to Russia for resources and living space. Its happened before so it could happen again. In that case, the Russian/Finland border would be the northern axis of a three pronged attack using Poland or Ukraine as the central prong and Turkey as the starting point of the southern prong to overwhelm the Russians. I don't believe it.But the Russians think that could happen someday.
@@TheLAGopher I'm no eastern europe history expert but I don't believe that either though Putin and some military may and with their State run radio can be very convincing of this 'worst case scenario' to their general public. Frankly I'm much more concerned with our own U.S. Southern Border and national sovereignty
It's a good opportunity for Finland (and NATO). They wanted it anyway, but if they had done it on their own Putin might have fought it. Right now he can't really do much about it.
Finland unlike Ukraine already have a very capable military and will retaliate if they're attacked. They have a lot of the modern technologies that Russia has. Advanced missile systems capable of precision strikes on Moscow being one of them.
@Adam Green Finland needed to stay Neutral as well as Sweden. Now Putin will take them for Joining NATO. Just what The West wanted. Pawns in a War game.
@@ru.kiddingme Erdogan is looking for something in return. He wants a military deal with the US. Fighters jets if I recall. He'll probably get them or something else. Finland and Sweden will be NATO members.
The mighty Russians… Not what the world thought they were. The Russian military is not as near as professional and effective as once thought. They also lack discipline and have constantly demonstrated poor tactics. The only things that worries me about Russia are: their nukes, hypersonic missiles, and Putin, and their possible allies.
@@gwillis9797 They 100% should be worried. I served many years in the US Marines and US Army. I also served in a joint services unit. There are very rough men who will absolutely trounce the Russian military. America 100% destroys Russia in a conventional war. The problem is the nukes and the Chinese.
Well they’re using this young lady in an inappropriate way. She is an American citizen and they must release her immediately! The one thing I don’t wanna hear is that she’s black I’m so fed up the last 2 1/2 years with black black black I’m about to go crazy with it the way I see it she’s an American I’m a man I’m white and I got no problem at all saying that she’s a fellow citizen and part of a big family from the United States of America she needs to be released immediately!
She broke the law, think people, when your in a foreign countries this is not the time to skirt the law. Personally I would not travel to a country that has a history of human rights violations.
@@anthonymurphy2540 Fine she broke the law. But the Russians know she is a celibrity and they know the WNBA and the wider American LGBTQ community will make her freedom a big enough issue,that Moscow can exploit it. When the US or EU picks up a Putin friend,girl friend, or family member for whatever, this is a chit he can pull out to get someone he wants returned to him.
@@TheLAGopher You made my point, by breaking the law she is now a pawn in Putin's game, Their going to want us to release a bad person or change our international policy. All she had to do is not break the Law and all of this would not have happen. Wake up people, I am actually worried that their not going to release her until the next Olympic game when the world can leverage Russia participation in the games with her release.
@@toasted_.coconut video of her going through the airport. If you were going to set someone up why would you do it over a vape pen? Really, logic has to come in play here! I work drug treatment center and patients constantly try to sneak in with vape pens.
As a matter of perspective, the GDP of the ENTIRE Country of Russia is less than HALF the GDP of the state of California. However because it possesses nukes, it regards itself as a "World Power," and it imagines it has a right to tell sovereign countries how they must manage their affairs. In any other context this would be a prelude to a joke, however in 2022 this is our reality. The world has entered a new Cold War, but this time we should not simply leave Russia wounded, we need to ensure that Russia is economically incapacitated so that it is never ever ever again able to invade another sovereign country for the next 2000 years.
Bad take. Call Russia’s bluffs but I wouldn’t decimate the economy. Kinda sounds like what happened to Germany in the 20’s and that didn’t turn out well.
Have you ever met a Russian? Growing up around them, they talk "sh@#," and they can't even back it up. When they lose, they play the victim and try to get you to feel bad for them. It is always a ploy to trick you. They enjoy deceit. It is a game for them. Chess is their favorite game...they are just very different culturally.
Finland and Sweden also just signed security deals with the UK a few days ago and Swe and Fi are both EU members so they will get more support from Europe than Ukraine anyway.
ukraine is lucky the west is so firmly behind it, since 2014 all the training they received has worked wonders for them, they are a capable military who are driving the incompetent russians out, in spite of the advantage the russians have in weapons systems, ukraine is still holding them back and driving them back in places !!!
I guess they are soo LUCKY…. I mean it’s not the news msnbc and abc and New York Times and Washington post was screaming ukriane was a completely corrupt country which it is and that SAME COUNTRY paid our sitting president?? - NO big deal. Not even worth mentioning OBVIOUSLY
@@CertifiedClapaholic the russians have 10,000 tanks in storage an airforce, a navy, many types of precision missile systems, hordes of siberian blood thirsty hounds and more, thye have the left over weapons of the former USSR a super power and still they are being beaten, thanks to the trainning they got from the americans who trained them well and they are good students too ?
@@ordinaryman2299 the training helps, no doubt about it. I was just letting you know that American weaponry is what's causing the biggest issue for Russians, namely Javelin missiles.
Ya think the Finns don’t know this ?… the Finns have had years to prepare, the Brits over there too now.. Hate to think of Putin’s blood pressure after hearing this.😂📈😂
@@danholm4952 Russian comments so far have been fairly calm, mainly warn "not good" if NATO bases come to Finland. They hardly come because NATO bases are expensive to maintain and Finland has its own good defense.
@@londop.a.3048 Most Russians don't support the Ukraine conflict and don't want to start another war with Finland/NATO, just look at interviews from common folk.
I am quite sure that the day Russia attacks Finland, it will be a little bit like an obese lion trying to crack open a porcupine. The porcupine may be small, but attacking it face to face is just suicidal. Even if you are lion King.
On behalf of the European artillery superpower that is Finland, I invite Russia to try. If Putin is that desperate to destroy the entire military might of Russia, we can and will finish what our friends in Ukraine have started. They only had 8 years to prepare for an all-out Russian offensive, we've had almost 80.
@@ObakeOnna Russia attacking Finland is a bit like an obese lion trying to have an easy meal on a porcupine. The lion maybe powerful, but it is fat and obese. The porcupine maybe small, but it has a formidable defense and is not afraid to lose a few spikes to teach the stupid fat lion a lesson.
Not true , Russia is prolonging the war to gain more power for negotiation. If you believed lies of WMD, Vietnam, korean. Afgan, and Iraq then you can believe anything the military industrial complex can tell you to sell more weapon on our dead bodies
He sent to the great Oracle at Delphi to know whether he should go to war against the Persian Empire and the oracle replied: "If Croesus goes to war he will destroy a great empire." The great empire Croesus ended up destroying by war was his own. Putin destroyed Russia because he didn't heed the Oracle of Delphi's warning to Croesus.
The oracles were the original trolls, weren't they? There was one philosopher who died when an eagle dropped a tortoise on his head (mistaking his bald scalp for a rock)--but the only reason he was outdoors in the first place was because he had been told he would die on that day from "the fall of a house" and was trying to outsmart destiny.
If people want to protest against the war in Russia they can engage in passive resistance and still have a huge impact. If done at a low enough individual level it would be hard for the authorities to uncover. Let's start with the railroads: 1)They can stage silent strikes where workers don't show up for work or call in sick. If the workers rotate who will be sick it can be hard to detect. 2)They can also change bills of lading to misdirect shipments to the wrong area or they can ship it via a circuitous route which is inefficient. 3)They can sit on paperwork to slow shipments. 4)They can damage signaling and switching equipment. 5)They can delay safety inspections and refuse to let shipments move until they are complete. 6)They can manipulate shipping schedules and create traffic jams by scheduling multiple trains on the same piece of track at the same time. 7)They can delay the loading and offload of supplies. 8)They can schedule unnecessary repairs which delay shipments. 9)They can purposefully load the wrong supplies on the wrong trains. 10)They can under or overload trains. If overloaded the chance of accident and maintenance increases. If they intentionally underutilize shipments that can cause logistical problems too.
A competent Russian armed-forces in a stand-by 'cold-war' situation just in the Eurasian 'theater' alone would need to maintain at least as much power and adequate logistics (and situational back-up) for 5 'fronts', Russia couldn't even handle 2 fronts (northern-northeast and southeast-eastern Ukraine), so the idea that they would open up a major potentially-porous long-front against a Nato-backed Finland would be a thumbs-down vote for most Russian top military-leaders and collaborationist strategic experts.
Except that Putin isn’t listening to his generals. He’s putting them on house arrest, jailing them and suspending them. That is one of the failings of an autocracy, only ‘Dear Leader’ is right.
Finland and Sweden are the frosting on NATOs cake. Maybe Russia will change their corrupt government to keep people like Putin out of power in the future?
@@T.M.N.N because Russia is a weak poor country that has lost every conflict it has ever engaged in during putler's reign , including conflicts like Chechnya ..... In their own country ......
They really can’t. They have no real authority. Russia is a third world country with only one tangible threat: nukes. But if even one is used, Russia will no longer exist.
But if NATO does that, Putin can claim 'they started it' and up the ante to possibly nukes. Unlikely, hopefully - but you never know how a cornered and rattled Putin may react.
Russia invading, Finland would be complete foolishness on the part of Russia. Finland decades ago fought Russia to a standstill during the winter war. Ever since then they have readied themselves for another invasion by Russia. They are every bit as capable if not more so than the Ukrainians were at the start of the Ukrainian invasion. If the Russians were to invade Finland, the Russian army would in all probability dissolve away into nothingness between the two countries. NATO would be the least of Putin's concerns.
weird comma at the start there. Finland lost the winter wars.. ceded 9% of their territory.. not against russia... But THE SOVIET UNION... Lol.. And apparently you believe everything you see on TV. Russia is one of the super powers of the world. Along with US , China... this made me laugh thanks
@@chabekak Hi, you're right about the comma. I don't know why spell check does some of the things it does. Also agree with you on several of your points. However, Russia was the principal part of the Soviet Union. It can be argued that it's military was even more powerful then it is now because the Soviet Union encompassed a larger population and therefore more troops. Also, it would appear that the modern Russian army is still using Soviet military doctrine. Essentially modern weapons withstanding, it's still a very similar military to the one that fought the Finns in the winter war. And as far as Finland losing the winter war, the very fact that the Soviet Union ( Russia) agreed to stop fighting in exchange for 9% of Finland when their objective was to incorporate the entirety of the country into the Soviet Union I would call fighting them to a standstill. The fact of the matter is that the Soviet Union found the winter war extremely costly. One final point for you. I'm in my mid '50s and don't really watch TV news or even the TV very much. The history I have comes out of books that in some cases are older than I am. My parents were adults during much of the aforementioned history so, there you go.
Oops, one other thought, At this point, one would be hesitant to think of Russia as a superpower. The entire world is left scratching their heads after their abysmal performance in Ukraine. The only thing and I do mean the only thing at all that keeps them on the world superpower stage is the fact that they have nuclear weapons. Nothing else.
It's not unusual for Russian authorities to make up charges. Don't blindly trust what Russia says, especially when it concerns US citizens. I'm 99 % sure the allegations are pure BS and that she's a bargaining chip for Putin.
I remember Gen. Petraeus from when I used to serv in the 101st Airborne the pic on my RUclips profile is of the coin he gave me while I was deployed in Iraq back in 2003 he was a really cool leader.
Finland and Sweden have prepared for decades, they’re truly ready for Russia. It appears Russia won’t be a country anymore by 5 yrs time. I will be in bed watching that show on TV.
Putin will be happy and retired in his Bond Villain mountain fortess with his private army tho...with all the money he stole. I suspect that is his real plan. 'Golden parachutes for everyone'
Ukraine still had a fledgling democracy and still had corruption issues. Now they are in an active conflict with Russia. No way they would be admitted until the war is over and territory disputes settled.
@@stryker290 I reiterate, Turkey is not going to block it, they’d be utter fools to. Endogan is trying to use the threat of blocking it to leverage sone concessions, such as other nato members ending support for the Kurdish rebels in Syria or unfreezing Turkey’s bid for EU membership. It’s pretty typical opportunism for him.
"Our cash level is running low now, but we are going to retaliate by cutting more revenue and possibly burning more money faster on senseless bombing and sending more unorganized battalions to be smacked in front of the world," also shows the mirror.
The general reminds me of a senior western politician who was once asked, during a crisis, about the situation in his country. His reply was: "Two weeks ago we stood on the edge of an abyss. Since then, we have taken a large step forward."
You're on point! For the life of me, I don't understand why MSNBC is asking Petraeus to appear here. Petraeus RESIGNED IN DISGRACE from his military career. It all happened right here in Tampa. Florida. The newspapers here covered the story for weeks! This man is definitely a has-been. He needs to stay quietly in retirement.
Fighting Finland (and possibly Sweden) is not like fighting Ukraine. There will a new level of hurt for the Russians if they attack with their 20th century weapons.
@@harrylongabaugh7402 seriously how do people keep forgetting how the Finns got destroyed later in ww2 by the soviets because they got overconfident and joined Germany in there invasion of the ussr.
@@JosueHernandez-nu5cp They did not actually get "destroyed." The results of the Continuation War were not much different from the results of the Winter War. Russia held onto mostly the same small areas of Finland, while about 5 Russians died for every Finn.
@@JosueHernandez-nu5cp I'm sure lots of things improved as lessons were learned, but my point is look at the maps after each conflict. Look at the ratio of dead Russians per dead Finn. Not that much difference. I'm talking about actual results.
You can't call it a fast track process when Russia's best friends Turkey has said that they will veto Finland and Sweden joining NATO. I hope Turkey doesn't still wants to join EU since guess which countries that is going to return that favour?
To be honest, I am actually in shock that Turkey is part of NATO, considering its ties with Russia. I also thought Putin best friend was China, not Turkey...In any case, I seriously hope Turkey will not Veto the bid. Both countries would be a HUGE asset to the organization and it would be a missed opportunity - including for Turkey - in regards to world security and world peace...
@@realspyfrog true. still erdogan mentioned it. finland is situated on fennoscandia which erdogan didnt mention. of the record u.s already had a call with turkey and u.s confirmed turkey wont stand against.
@Jay ..the man is probably already sick’n’dying ..that would explain the kamikaze-way of living! Waging wars towards everyone around his ..since he got nothing left to loose(if I’m dying anyway!?)
russia can't even defeat a military 1/10th it's size with their dysfunctional, decrepit military but it's going to open another front against several advanced 21st Century militaries??? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Uh, ACCORDING TO THE LYING MSM. PRAYING HERE PUTIN TAKES.OUT THE ILLEGAL US BIOLABS AND STOPS THE NEXT PLANDEMIC GATES SAID WOULD BE WORSE THAN COVID-19. THOSE LABS WERE SET UP BY SEN OBAMA AND LUGAR IN 2005. SAME YR THE NIH REPORTED UNDER FAUKKI THAT HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE IS A POTENT INHIBITOR OF SARS - CORONA VIRUS FAUKKI LATER LIED AND DENIED.
@@davidgrover5996 We don´t want it anymore. The amount of money we would need to bring the infrasdtructure up to date would be astronomical. I have traveled by car in Eastern Karelia in the 1990:s and it was like going 100 years back in time.
@@trident6547 After Soviet management I am surprised it was that well maintained. As long as the lesser reincarnation of Stalin doesn’t start a hot war it probably won’t be an issue. But if he does costing them territory for a return to peace will probably be a necessity to drive the point home that this is stupid.
Reminds me of the story of a scorpion trying to cross a swift river. He asked a sly fox passing by if he would give him a ride across the river. The sly fox said "No way! You will sting me and I will die!". The scorpion said, "No I won't. If I do that I will drown and die too." The sly fox thought about it for a few seconds and said, "Hop on I'll give you a ride." Half way across the river the scorpion stings the fox. With his dying breath the sly fox asks "Why? You are going to die now too." The scorpion replied, "I could not help myself. It's just in my nature." Remember this story when dealing with Putin.
what gets me is france says ukraine needs to award putin . one thing the french have down is surrendering .want to give putin land give him some french land. maybe a new nation with a white flag as national colors .
France is most coward state. Remember Vichy government ww2, President of France with German chancellor blocked Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova from E.U. and NATO and even now, France tells Ukraine to give up some land to Russia to keep Putin’s face. France can give up their own lands and give it to Putin if they want
Why do we still ask people like Petraeus for their opinion? He pleaded guilty to a charge of "mishandling classified material"--as a four-star general, no less. This was a plea agreement. Felony charges were initially considered. These people need to go away, enjoy their pensions, bonk their mistresses (you can look it up), and be happy that they're not behind bars.
@@karylhogan5758 So he's an expert. OK, so he has an opinion. I don't see that his opinion in this clip is supported by any evidence. Why do we assume that a deeply compromised man of exceptionally poor judgment is an expert on foreign policy simply because he was a general and Director of the CIA? Have people in these positions in recent decades struck you as major foreign-policy experts?
@@alfredlutz7258 if you have made no mistakes in life.. You have learned nothing. I don’t care about a persons personal life, or rumors. He knows his stuff and his opinion of value to listen to.. Men who served under him all speak well of him…🧐.. That’s enough for me..
Thank you for your insight General Patraeus❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏✡️✝️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦victory for Ukraine 🇺🇦 and G-d protect 🇫🇮 Finland! Stand strong Finland, you have the world on your side! From Dr Edward Moskowitz MD FACS ABU AAGU, Pocatello Idaho .. 🇺🇸
Why use the term preemptive? I understand what you're getting at with the prior to them joining nato statement but it implies that there will be action from nato towards Russia after the fact which is just not true. Russia is amping up for something they know is not gonna happen unless they act 1st. Using the term preemptive plays right into Russia's propaganda that's exactly the terminology they want us to use.
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564 No blow is about to land. Finland isn't going to attack Russia. The fact that the Finns are on the point of making internal policy changes that Russia doesn't like isn't a "blow", in and of itself. Russia can't tell Finland to stay out of NATO any more than they could tell them to stay out of the EU. Your description of a preemptive strike is spot on, but in the case of Finland joining NATO it doesn't apply.
"Russian Preemptive Strike Not Likely Before Finland Is Formally Within NATO" LOL yea, because you can only pull "I'm doing the thing I just said I wouldn't do" once within a certain amount of time before people call your bluff.
Finland would demolish weak Russia , without blinking , when Russia likely collapses this summer/autumn Finland will likely reclaim the Karelian peninsula , if Russia attacked Finland , there is a good chance Finland would sack Moscow ......
@@weneedcriticalthinking Russia should be more concerned with having enough bread. Bread riots have destroyed Russia more than any weapon or invader in it's long history. Just food for thought. When Russians get hungry enough they actually do eat the Rich
@@fjccommish compared to???? the Trump, putin, entire admin of trump administration trying to disappear $$$$$ 8-EIGHT TRILLION of U S TAXPAYERS MONEY?????
I'd rather have Finland and Sweden in, and let Turkey go, if I was choosing. Turkish drones are nice, but it seems like Turkey has had some problems in recent years.
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Everything is provocative to Russia. They act like bully who suggest that just Russia can be offensive but others must just comply and do not defense or offense against them
@Terrance PHILLIPS How's that 15 rubles per comment treating you comrade?
@Terrance PHILLIPS im surprised you can actually form words. i sense strong "Z"ombie in you.
@@slimjimhero good one!
sounds like US 🤔
Sounds like the Republicans!
A bully always tries to narrate defense as aggression...Finland is wise they know Russia..and not in a good way.
Russia will win in the end for a multi currency world.
@Removed from the corner are you saying in this instance Russia is at the right and the US is in the wrong?
@@dairshine how many wars has Russia fought on American continent?
@@dairshine how many wars has NATO waged in MiddleEast?
@@thegodhead none that I can recall, NATO member states might of, but member states are not NATO.
One might almost think Russia does not possess any diplomatic ability other than threats of violence. The only variations being threats involving conventional weapons and threats of nuclear holocaust.
They really are developmentally stunted. The culture has a deep-seated win-lose mentality. They literally cannot conceive of win-win. This is the basis of adult interactions and is at the core of diplomacy.
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Partially true but Andrew don’t forget they can follow through with their threats on a nuclear strike if that would occur between the United States and Russia Russia would be obliterated and only a very little bit of America would even be left in tact in my humble opinion America would survive as an entity Russia would night I can’t believe Putin would do it but you got a remember and I’m a registered nurse I think this man has Parkinson’s he’s on steroids plus he’s power-hungry and he’s desperate and I think that explains some of his actions in simpler terms don’t forget as crazy as he may get he can always push that button. On a personal note It’s a Russian hacker man has a single patriot in there then they need to Bring an abrupt end to his dictatorial madman policies! he is a threat to Russia.
The reporters a nitwit. They’ve been talking all along the United States and Russia don’t think they weren’t
Russia has been trying to negotiate for 8 years. What you're not told is that the CIA overthrew Ukraine in 2014, it wasn't a revolution. Since then Ukraine has built more than 25 biological weapons labs and has been bombing Eastern Ukraine for the entire time. Eastern Ukraine, as a result of the Holodomor was populated by Russians - they speak Russian, they have a bit of a different culture than the Ukrainians, and there were victims as much as the people who were removed (through starvation) from Stalin's forced collectivization.
Russia has, for 8 years, been trying to negotiate with Ukraine to stop to bombing of Eastern Ukraine, and for them no to join NATO since they have been twice invaded through Ukraine before. This is the ONLY thing they wanted, and Ukraine simply refused.
Russia has stated repeatedly, that they regard NATO inclusion of Ukraine as a threat to Russia, a serious threat. If this is the case, they will use nuclear weapons to end this war if they must.
And all this because the CIA overthrew the nation 8 years ago.
"Will this be provocative?" So sick of this appeasement question. "Provocation" is just Russian rationalization throwing a temper tantrum like a 3 year old instead of acting like an adult and engaging productively to seek what it wants via collaboration and diplomacy.
By your logic USA reacted like a 3 year old on Cuban missile crisis.
@@alexsilent5603 BASED
@@alexsilent5603 Their are a few countries already apart of NATO that border Russia so their reasoning is bs
@@grizzlyadamblack So if one of your neighbors joins an aggressive criminal gang, you will not mind if all other neighbors join the same gang too?
@@alexsilent5603 The USSR had deployed to Cuba IRBMs carrying 1MT+ thermonuclear warheads just 90 miles off the US coast, the US's response was unsurprising and quite reasonable.
Russian electricity only counts for ~10% though, and Finland can replace that by increased domestic generation, from Sweden or a bit of both. Russian gas will likely get cut too, but its less than 5% of their total supply.
We were actually thinking on our side should we cut our *buying* of Russian electricity as part of the economic sanctions and embargoes against Russia. Our grid operator said already like month ago they were technically preparing and already pretty much ready to do such action, in case political leadership decided to do add electricity on the embargo package.
If only everyone else was not acting like the us and were sooo worried about virtue signaling of “ciomate change “ rather than save their countries. Also as embarrassing as Biden
But more hard currency loss for Vlad!
Russia is winning according to this US marine.
A lot of people didn't expect real artillery, they thought it was Call of Duty Modern Warfare II (2). They have no idea what a slow methodical advance is, and even less of how the Russians tend to fight despite all the evidence from Syria etc.
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@@condorX2 But according to just every other ex marine (not addicted to fentanyl) they're doing appallingly.
Russia gained the ruins of Mariupol (for now), NATO gained Swedens huge military industry's jewels, and Finland's million strong active, modern reserve (and ONLY country, who builds ice breaker ships.) Russia will be on ice-age next 15 years at least, and its gonna take 30-50 years to get to pre-war status. Or who knows. There is no going back for sure.
Canada and USA have icebreakers too like many other countries, just not as formidable as the Russian ones, but still.
Putin is blaming his foolishness and incompetence on his generals, typical of a dictator.
Umm Russia has ice breakers already 🤣🤣🤣 sit this one out cowboy
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Russia going break you with it s ice breaker, a country like Russia will always survive they ain’t going nowhere and Ukraine will lost all the East
The ruble is worth less than my toilet paper. I would save money using Russian currency.
Suomi Finland Perkele! Welcome to our Finnish sisters and brothers!
Thank you and greetings from Finland ❣️😊
Putin can not tell Finland not to join NATO! He is nuts!!
Can the US tell Mexico or Cuba or Venezuela not to form an alliance with Russia? The Monroe doctrine says we can.
@@mrashad219 That would never happen, because we would be the proud owners of a newly occupied Mexican country.
Donna Paulin, Putin can tell Finland anything he wants to. But just because he tells someone something doesn't mean that it will get done. Putin's hand is so "over played" at this point that he's throwing any and everything against the the wall in hopes that something will stick.
@@watchinit6063 psychological projection is an ugly thing.
@@thegodhead LOL - when did you start getting flashbacks .... again?
Right now the Russian military is struggling against a largely volunteer Ukrainian force who has "some" western military tech and who the US is feeding intelligence to in support. So anyone who believes Russia would expand its war = has a hole in their head. If Russia were to engage NATO or Finland who have a sizeable competent professional army on hand = they would lose on a massive scale. This is all bluster - as usual.
Assuming that they are thinking and acting rationally.
"Some"western military support? The US alone has spent or is planning to spend more than the entire annual military budget of Russia in the course of a couple of months. I keep hearing how Russia is an agressive military force in Europe and Asia yet USA has a military budget 10 times that of Russia. That looks to me like USA has plans to be THE dominant military force on the planet. So much for "world peace" from the business end of a gun.
The only thing Russia has going for it is it's nuclear arsenal and they know that as well, hence why they keep threatening the world with it.
I agree 100% that is just stupid talk. The just want to scare people and make them watch the news or view it on youtube. You have to remember once Putin takes (IF) over the Ukraine he has t occupy it and that in its self will take a large amount of troops.
@@paulharris553 Ever since at least the cold war era, the U.S. has drooled at weakening and containing the Russian military. The same for China as well.
Does anyone recall 2 mo ago Russia had 150 000 troops on Ukraine's borders and said they were doing exercises, and they weren't going to invade. Anyone remember that? Anyone? Anyone at all?
The russian leaders are, historically, liars to their own people.
Russias usual lies….
Russia is barely handling Ukraine right now they are not going to pick another fight right now
@Hawk of Facts What will they invade with? Ladas?
I wouldn't put anything pass them. It would be the most stupidest thing that they can do
Let's not forget Democrats support abortion and TRANS-KIDS
Barely hanging on and more of Ukraine is being destroyed every day
@Hawk of Facts Bahaha!! You do know Turkey has been supplying Ukraine with weapons, right ! Lmao !! You propagandists are funny !! China .. notice how you don’t dare say Russia, alone ! Inept , Russ needs a friend to help them !! Lol!!!
China and Russia have a long history, that I’m sure China hasn’t forgot about !! Lmao !!
Of all the countries Russia could choose to pick a fight with - Finalnd and Sweden are far more equipped trained supplied and allied than Ukraine were (previous to nato and allied support)
Finland and Sweden have such a well trained and organised armed force/air force-they would embarass Putin straight away.
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime 👈🏻Russian Troll!
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime you just say the same thing over and over , it’s like you’re getting paid to spread disinformation and misinformation... trolls will be trolls , can’t wait until we boot you from YT, too !!
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime Fantasize about her in private please.
Agrreed
Which is why NATO has always been open to their membership.
Very interesting dynamics. I appreciate his interview. I personally, am on the side of Ukraine.
Russia must denazify Ukraine and Poland
Russia is committing mass murder almost daily, how could any decent human being not be on Ukraine’s side?
@@wendywill7519 Russia must denazify Ukraine and then Poland
Putin: Why are you thinking of joining NATO?
Finland: You scare us.
Putin: If you don't stop I'll do to you what I'm doing to Ukraine.
Finland: Is that suppose to make us trust you?
Putin: Why are you thinking of joining NATO?
Finland: You scare us.
Putin: If you don't stop I'll do to you what I'm doing to Ukraine.
Finland: If you have any troops and equipment left after Ukraine is done with you, you are welcome to try
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@@MsSquirl00 "we've been waiting for your visit ~70 years already..."
Finland has better reasons now to join NATO then they ever had.
You missed out the finale:
Finland:: Right then, we are joining NATO.
Russia: We will destroy you!
Finland. Not if we are in NATO.
NATO: Hello, welcome to NATO.
Russia: You are ganging up on us! Sob, sob.
NATO: Go away Yuri.
Putin: why are you joining Nato?
Finland: Old sleepy want us to join so he can point his finger to you thru our border.
Putin: Is that so, ok i will send you my Big finger if that happens.
Yes because that's exactly what Russia wants: another war with an even more advanced military.
To prove that that they can lose to Finland twice.
They didn't lose to Finland. Who told you that? CNN?
@@lescobrandon8045 Thank you, I've read this many times on YT that the USSR lost to Finland, typical idiocy on YT. It is true Finland gave them a beating initially, but with numbers and time the USSR won the conflict.
@@mfh6982 Pyrrhic victory at best. They lost a lot of soldiers during that conflict, and ultimately opened them up to Nazi invasion.
Also, many at the time concluded that Russia was seeking to conquer Finland and install a puppet state, that objective was ultimately a failure. They did get their initial publicly stated demands and more; but I wouldn't call it a victory.
@@Niros8889 Call it what ever you want, Finland did step down and capitulated. The USSR lost a lot of solders, it was a routing in favor of the Finns. But this is precisely how the USSR did things, they were horribly managed militarily as Stalin purged more than 300 generals due to his paranoia. It's what all dictators do they replace competency with loyalists, because they themselves succeeded in power by way of their own coup detat and therefore always fearing the next coup is coming for them. Russia lost an enormous number of solders in WW2 that far outnumbered any other nation resulting from incompetency. For God's sake they lost nearly 90,000 solders in the battle for Berlin in roughly ten days of battle against a broken army of old men and children, the last gasps of Germany. In addition to 250,000+ wounded casualties. The USSR's focus on Finland during this time had no consequence on the flood gates of the Nazi's with 3-4 million troops and massive quantities of armament. The Nazi's were coming no matter what.
@@mfh6982 what a lovely hill you decided to defend :p
NATO has never forced anyone to join... In fact it is the direct opposite of Russia who started several wars in that matter...
Ukraine: exists.
Russia: Such provocation...
Imagine Russia struggling against Ukraine and attacking Finland anyway. Putin might be mad enough, but the Russian generals are not.
Putin fired his generals o,o
@Tanya - Maybe he will take the lead now?!
…one can only hope…!!
Have you seen his generals speak to him? They are scared shitless of him, they'll tell him what he wants to hear, nothing else. Don't write off another front opening up. Question is, if that did happen would his generals overthrow him before he has a tantrum and starts throwing nukes at people?
@Jesus has given you all. Repent or die. You may want to share that verse with the Ukrainians?
If I was the general and Putin said "Go to the front line and see what is the problem", I'd say "Why don't you go?", knowing full well it will be my last words.
Well experts like this also said ‘Russia would never think of doing a full-scale invasion in Ukraine’. So take these comments with a grain of salt.
WESTERN WORLD ALWAYS LYING ,,,
It’s just at tactical operation u know :’D
@Dean - Finland have 200000 troops ready atm. And 900000 in reserve ..and one of the largest stocks of ammunition at storage, in the area - I’m not worried, unless they drop the big ones
Incorrect.
"Unless they do something reLlt stupid" is assumed at the end of every statement. You can't factor in stupid. It comes in too many flavors.
This isnt Chechnya or Georgia, its a pretty big country the Ukraine, he's bitten off more than he can chew..🤔
Ukraine is nearly the size of TEXAS. That's a lot to bite off, to chew, & digest.
It would be appropriate to mention General Petraeus's current job, Partner, KKR, and Chairman of the KKR Global Institute which has several defense contractors in it's portfolio. I generally find his observations interesting and informative, but his direct benefit from defense spending should be disclosed. Pretty much all the former generals that go on cable news shows are current defense industry executives or lobbyists.
War industry, not defense industry
Nobody doesn’t know that about them 🥴
@@pierre-charlesleonhart8357 In America I'd wager about half the population or more doesn't know that.
Your point?🧐
Spending conspiricy aside, it would appear you acknowledge he is one of the top consultants on the defense industry food chain so it would be incumbent to consider what the man has to say don't you think? I suspect this man knows more about what is going on in this war than any of the users on this thread. Thanks for confirming the man's credentials. You can't be too careful nowadays.
Russia is hardly in a position to start a conflict on another front. Be reminded as well that China has some border and territorial deputes with Russia, now would be the ideal
time, with Russia's defenses severely strained, to move in.
Japan also.
China could easily take any land it wanted from Russia. Nothing they could do about it
If Brittany was a random American who got arrested for drug paraphernalia in Russia, we wouldn't be talking about her... She should be treated as if she was another person who broke the laws of a country as a tourist.
Except that maybe she didn't break any laws and this is Russia being its typical self manufacturing crimes for political leverage.
TY you are "correct". nothing about her conduct and "possession". but we should speak to another sovereign nation (russia or anyone else).
"hey, listen she can dribble a basketball well, she has a bunch of butch tattoos, she is african american AND a lesbian" so you must let ms. grier go.
and how lesbian groups claim she will be tortured because she is homosexual; but the (honorable) marine in the prison for a fight with a russian cop (no video, no injuries) does not get attention from the WNBA (and he is not a lesbian)
so the marine should stay and the "lesbian" is needed at home by her "wife".
the one marine was released. listen professional sports makes money in the US as we know billion$. so they can "feed" and get this on the news. it has been over 18yrs. since seeing professional sport game. unless someone "paid" me i would never go to a "sporting" game.
Once she heard the news about Russia's plans for Ukraine she should of gotten her American as outta there. I work with Russia's in the States and they said, "Russian do this, this is why so many Russian's fled the country and now there relatives are trapped. My Russian co-workers family live near the Ukrainian border and can hear the bombs. They know that the Ukrainian's and there Ukrainian can easily hit there city if they wanted too.
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The Russians picked her up and are holding her because of her celiberity and usefulness as a bargining chip. Its funny how so many people
who want to make this a culture war issue by pitting an African America lesbian female with "butch" tattoos against a US Marine,didn't really
have much to say about his arrest before they had something to play it off against. Many of these same people were Putin fans up to a few months ago and many still are.They just don't say it out loud like they used to.
@@gwillis9797
She was there to do a job where women basketball players are paid more then they are in the states. She should have had no more reason
to get out of Russia over invading Ukraine then all the Russian men playing in the NHL. Now knowing that, she should have made sure if she
intended to hang around, that she would keep her nose clean and not give Ivan any reason to pick her up.
Irrespective of the prospect of membership in NATO, open aggression toward Finland would SEEM like an unthinkable blunder to anyone who has studied history.
This is a nation whose independence and autonomy has been maintained and recognized for a LONG time. Many centuries ago, the ancient Vikings tried making an incursion there and got sent home with their tails between their legs -- never to return. In the centuries to follow, attempts by other such hostile empires have been met with similar results.
On a modern world stage, I can't imagine this working out well for Putin or Russia as a whole.
As the old saying goes -- Putin might be crazy, but he's not stupid.
Or IS he?
This will tell.
Whats he willing to loose
Any claim by Russia that they feel 'threatened' by Finland or any other NATO country along their border is ludicrous B.S.- Merely a lame justification for them to continue enacting aggressive military action- not defensive..... these European countries have more positive directions to head towards, not thinking of invading other countries as Putin/Russia aspires to
I mean, NATO is an alliance purely against Russia. I’m sure you would feel threatened if Mexico and Canada united with Russia and allowed Russia to move military infrastructure close to our borders
Russia’s military is dwarfed compared to nato alliance. It’s a real concern
It’s not about invansion it’s about Russians losing their SLAVIC way of life . They don’t want a US , French style liberal society . They want a masculine tough society that is proud to be RUSSIAN. Idk why you guys over and over again just disregard every reason russia gives for military action and instead try time and time again to force their hand
Everyone in America - “oh trans is your identity ! We must make you feel included !”
Everyone in America but in respects to Russia - “screw ur way of life it’s our way or no way”
No one thinks China is going to invade California. Do we want Chinese bases in Tijuana ??, NOOOOO
Why is it so hard for msnbc watchers to use their own advice and logic , taste your own medicine , treat others , HOW WE WANT TO BE TREATED ,
No one even considers the fact that Crimea is 90% Russian speaking , Donbas , nearly 90% Russian speaking . In 2014 , Crimean and Donbas citizens rallied for the Russian separatist. Those people DONT want to be with ukraine . Does the western media care that those Russian Ukrainian feel oppressed ? NOPPPEEE
@@texanborn7747 Finland and other European countries are not a threat to Russia. No one wants to invade Russia. This is Russian aggression at its finest and they've used this excuse for decades to justify their wars.
The relentless twisting of facts by the western mainstream media have kept their audiences in the dark, leaving little, if any room for debate. Judging by the majority of comments, the amount of uninformed and uneducated people is simply disturbing.
The expansion of NATO in late 1990's was justified on the basis of a imaginary "Russian threat". The break up of Warsaw Pact was a sign of Moscow's intent to move away from the Cold War politics., and NATO on the other hand, was not disbanded. In fact, it grew even bigger. Ironically, today we see the same imaginary "Russian threat" being used in a US-led effort to gobble up the remaining few neutral countries and incorporate them into the ever-expanding NATO alliance.
Europe is on the brink of becoming American Imperial Legion. This is evident by the ongoing campaign to strip the Europeans of their national identity and pride and make them an instrument of the US foreign policy where they will be used as pawns to fight and die under the blue flag of NATO for strictly US interests in it's ultimate quest to the East.
Bringing more troops and weapons to the Russian border will not bring stability in Europe. It's a recipe for disaster.
Thank you for letting General Petraeus give a thorough answer and explanation. I always respect his knowledge and analysis....
General Petraeus is one of the most outstanding military personality , I am very impressed with his realistic outlook and his acumen. I like him talk so truthfully and bluntly.
He is a national treasure.
His a POS who was sleeping with his secretary
He's an amazing man.
Just don't leave him alone with your wife.
you believe this bs he s saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 come back in 2-3 months when Russia win and you will see you ve been lied too
And apparently YT agrees with you because your comment stayed up.
The fact that Russia even thinks it can go around telling other countries what they can and cannot do is an abomination. How did we allow Russia to get this big?
with telling the world what to do russia is way off compared to usa
Putin was very good at always being the second biggest problem.
Thank the Rosenbergs for making them a nuclear power.
What do think of my Country USA telling other countries what they can and cannot do?
How did we allow Russia to get so big? After WW2, Democrats refused to allow our generals to crush them.
Griner once said, as a black person, it wasn’t safe for her to walk down the street in the US-- wonder how she’s liking Russia?
I think the last think Russia needs or wants is to open a second front. They spent months preparing for Ukraine, and look how that turned out. And as Finland at least is on its way to NATO status, it does run the risk of still pulling part or all of NATO in. It’d definitely be a bad move.
We will stand as strongly by Finland as we do by Ukraine.
The Russian Federation under Putin has made a huge mistake that will not be forgiven for decades.
They’re about to win the eastern Russian speaking side of Ukraine so I think its going pretty good lol
@@GraemeMurphy okay then take the east of Ukraine back 🤣🤣🤣
Your nuts, Russia is winning. There is a reason why they are going at a slow pace.
@@nimbusnimbus.IV. Whose nuts? Yours or mine?
Preemptive strike on Finland?! Have you been paying attention to what's been happening in Ukraine? Not a sane chance. If putin did it would just hasten his demise greatly.
Besides, the UK effectively closed the window to a Russian preemptive strike on Finland (and Sweden too) when it signed a defense treaty
with Helsinki a few days ago. If the Russians attack Finland, the UK is at war with Russia which triggers article 5 NATO involvement.
The Brits (who almost certainly coordinated this at least with the United States) pretty much extended NATO protection to Finland and Sweden
before they officially even applied to join the NATO alliance.
@@TheLAGopher - if you read the treaty you will see that this sadly only is a political declaration. There is even especially stated that it isn't legally binding (at least the Swedish translation says so and hence I assume the English version states the same)
@@realspyfrog It is illegitimate, and NATO is trash.
They also dont have the resources for it, unless they choose to simply air raid them, but that would lead to a guaranteed retaliation all the way back to Moscow.
@@TheLAGopher you know who else was promised defense from the uk...yeah 💀
Just because Finland hasn't been part of NATO yet doesn't mean NATO members wouldn't join force to protect Finland.
No,Article 5 only applies to NATO member states.
They won’t and they can’t. Hence why we didn’t jump into ukraine.
@@ecampbell5837 Finland is not Ukraine, their cultural tie to the rest of Europe is in very different level.
@@mikedunn7795 EU also has CSDP, Finland is part of it already.
Finland may be smaller but very powerful and extremely well prepared... and has NATO backup. 💙💛 🙏 🕊 💙💛
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime you making that ruble , to buy some sugar ?? Bahaha!! At least you still have RUclips ... lmao!! Iron curtain people are funny !! Backwards, but funny!!
@GoogleCensor ForObidenRegime, wow. Project much Comrade? I’ve looked at your home page, Ivan. You’re a pro-Putin Russian Troll. Propaganda straight from the Russian State itself.
@@unoimright5153 Forget the American Iron Curtain. What about people who lived north of
Hadrians' Wall and didn't go through the Dark Ages, like your ancestors did? That's why you're
runted and stunted and shallow-minded as a typical white person.
Not everyone or every country cares about money......
Russia and Putin should know what happens when you open up 2 or more fronts.
Germany REALLY knows.
Like Iraq and Afghanistan?
@@joelyates2404 Only the US had the resources to do something like that. You're trying to compare the US military capability to that of a country which has a 10-times smaller economy than the US.
@@joelyates2404 не старайся так, людей не обманешь
@Ton Tom Lost the cold war???
@@joelyates2404 We didn't fight those two wars alone did we.
Russia would lose against Finland, straight up
@Straight white unvaccinated male First of all of course we would, yes
Secondly Russia is already embroiled in a draining war in Ukraine
Finally, Finland would love revenge for the winter war of 1939
Hate seeing the assumptions about Finland joining NATO when Turkey is indicating they’ll veto the move. I hope Finland does join and soon.
The only nation have nothing to doing inside nato is turkey. A autocrat country . I don t undestand why turkey is inside nato!! Finland and sweed have to join nato that s it!!! F… erdogan
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@Google'RUclips'Censors FreeSpeech4OBidenRegime Russian troll.
Erdogan will be shown the light. He's just manoeuvring for some bennies.
Russia's response to finding out they want to join NATO, is the exact reason they want to join it. Putin is off his rocker man
It's like he's got Hitler-itis or something.
Finland has a 810 mi border with Russia. If you think Putin is gonna sit back while strategic missiles are literally parking up against his fenceline, You ARE nuts.
This is exactly why Russia Sent ICBMs to Cuba --- the presence of American ICBMs in Turkey.
It took the neutralization of a NATO Ally to ward off WW3.
@@insertnamehere313 He's Putler.
Putin probably wants to be encircled by NATO...his country can remain politically and economically isolated and under the thumb if the kleptocrats.
He's pretty much burning his country to the ground to secure his own retirement.
The Russian military doesn't have the resources to run two separate offensives while also ensuring domestic defense. Putin's desire for total victory in Ukraine has come at the cost of the overall weakening of Russia's position on the global stage.
Exactly. Ukraine has turned into a big problem for Russia. Finland has been prepared to fight Russia for years. Russia definitely won't try anything with Finland.
Finland and 800 miles of border is one big head ache for Putin , when he has very little manpower to deploy to protect that flank , plus the other regions where NATO is bolstering its forces , in the meanwhile he has a protracted/stalemate ? war , and massive sanctions with the prospect of cold war 2 now in play , which based on the last one, will require some serious cash , and NATO presently isn't short of that with a combined memebers spend of $1,2 trillion (2021) and two new members about to add in to that !
Putin is his own worst enemy. The best way to weaken NATO would be for Putin to step down. If Putin wasn't running rampage around eastern Europe there would be little incentive to be in NATO.
why would 800(or 1,500)miles of border with any other European country be a big headache or threat to Putin? NATO and other alliances were formed to protect adjacent countries from a historically antagonistic-aggressive Russia/USSR not the other way around.
@@TJKillip ?
@@TJKillip
The Russian have an ingrained historical fear of invasion from the west. It wasn't just Germany in WW2. The Germans invaded Russia in WW1
and the French in 1812 when Napolean captured Moscow. Going back further in time, the Swedes and Polish have marched into Russia.
In the Russian mind, they sometimes tend to not look at things as they are but what they could be in a worst case senario. That would
be a future where NATO and or the EU with an expanding population,looks east to Russia for resources and living space. Its happened before
so it could happen again. In that case, the Russian/Finland border would be the northern axis of a three pronged attack using Poland
or Ukraine as the central prong and Turkey as the starting point of the southern prong to overwhelm the Russians.
I don't believe it.But the Russians think that could happen someday.
@@TheLAGopher I'm no eastern europe history expert but I don't believe that either though Putin and some military may and with their State run radio can be very convincing of this 'worst case scenario' to their general public. Frankly I'm much more concerned with our own U.S. Southern Border and national sovereignty
Thank you for your service, General.
Yes, he won so many wars for us.
It's a good opportunity for Finland (and NATO). They wanted it anyway, but if they had done it on their own Putin might have fought it. Right now he can't really do much about it.
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He got the exact opposite of what he killed over 50,000 people for.
what are you talking about ....Finland is doing it on their own .... Finland's parliament voted to join
@@edgarfleming9308 Except parliament is voting next week?
Finland unlike Ukraine already have a very capable military and will retaliate if they're attacked. They have a lot of the modern technologies that Russia has. Advanced missile systems capable of precision strikes on Moscow being one of them.
They also have a lot of snow capable tractors......
Finland should have never joined NATO, they just gave The West what they need for a prolonged War.
@Adam Green Finland needed to stay Neutral as well as Sweden. Now Putin will take them for Joining NATO. Just what The West wanted. Pawns in a War game.
Erdogan indicates Turkey opposes Sweden and Finland joining NATO, and has veto on membership.
@@ru.kiddingme Erdogan is looking for something in return. He wants a military deal with the US. Fighters jets if I recall. He'll probably get them or something else. Finland and Sweden will be NATO members.
Stop just stop did she have the contraband on her? If so it's not a bad arrest.
Even if Finland does not get into Nato soon, Russia is not in a position to start a "special operation' on another front..
The mighty Russians…
Not what the world thought they were. The Russian military is not as near as professional and effective as once thought. They also lack discipline and have constantly demonstrated poor tactics. The only things that worries me about Russia are: their nukes, hypersonic missiles, and Putin, and their possible allies.
Hmmm, one second. Never heard of tactical nukes. Thus is another treaty broken by Finland. Who agreed to neutrality after WW2 and siding with Ge
@@derek9153
The Russian people should worry about Putin actions and there peace which will end.
@@gwillis9797 They 100% should be worried. I served many years in the US Marines and US Army. I also served in a joint services unit. There are very rough men who will absolutely trounce the Russian military. America 100% destroys Russia in a conventional war. The problem is the nukes and the Chinese.
Well they’re using this young lady in an inappropriate way. She is an American citizen and they must release her immediately! The one thing I don’t wanna hear is that she’s black I’m so fed up the last 2 1/2 years with black black black I’m about to go crazy with it the way I see it she’s an American I’m a man I’m white and I got no problem at all saying that she’s a fellow citizen and part of a big family from the United States of America she needs to be released immediately!
She broke the law of Russia unfortunately. Drug paraphernalia is illegal in Russia
She should be treated as if she was another tourist, she shouldn't be given special perks because she is rich
She broke the law, think people, when your in a foreign countries this is not the time to skirt the law. Personally I would not travel to a country that has a history of human rights violations.
Thats my point, where their smoke there could be fire, keep your self off their radar! Its not about innocence or guilt.
@@anthonymurphy2540
Fine she broke the law. But the Russians know she is a celibrity and they know the WNBA and the wider American LGBTQ community
will make her freedom a big enough issue,that Moscow can exploit it. When the US or EU picks up a Putin friend,girl friend, or family member
for whatever, this is a chit he can pull out to get someone he wants returned to him.
@@TheLAGopher You made my point, by breaking the law she is now a pawn in Putin's game, Their going to want us to release a bad person or change our international policy. All she had to do is not break the Law and all of this would not have happen. Wake up people, I am actually worried that their not going to release her until the next Olympic game when the world can leverage Russia participation in the games with her release.
Why are you so certain she wasn't setup by Russia?
@@toasted_.coconut video of her going through the airport. If you were going to set someone up why would you do it over a vape pen? Really, logic has to come in play here! I work drug treatment center and patients constantly try to sneak in with vape pens.
Something tells me Finland has gamed this all out and is ready for whatever the Russians might do.
As a matter of perspective, the GDP of the ENTIRE Country of Russia is less than HALF the GDP of the state of California. However because it possesses nukes, it regards itself as a "World Power," and it imagines it has a right to tell sovereign countries how they must manage their affairs. In any other context this would be a prelude to a joke, however in 2022 this is our reality. The world has entered a new Cold War, but this time we should not simply leave Russia wounded, we need to ensure that Russia is economically incapacitated so that it is never ever ever again able to invade another sovereign country for the next 2000 years.
Okay Hitler.
Bad take. Call Russia’s bluffs but I wouldn’t decimate the economy. Kinda sounds like what happened to Germany in the 20’s and that didn’t turn out well.
Russia's GDP is about the same size as Mexico's for perspective.
That’s ingredients for nuclear weapon play.
Have you ever met a Russian? Growing up around them, they talk "sh@#," and they can't even back it up. When they lose, they play the victim and try to get you to feel bad for them. It is always a ploy to trick you. They enjoy deceit. It is a game for them. Chess is their favorite game...they are just very different culturally.
Why ask this Ex-General about a American being held in Russia.
Why NOT ask?
He was CIA director. He likely has been aware of prisoner exchanges with foreign nations.
What fool goes to Russia in the middle of a war?
And thinks she is in Colorado...
Someone with big giant brass testicles that's who. Incredibly foolish.
Russia can’t handle Ukraine. Definitely can’t handle Ukraine, Finland AND Sweden on 2 fronts.
Finland and Sweden also just signed security deals with the UK a few days ago and Swe and Fi are both EU members so they will get more support from Europe than Ukraine anyway.
I'm very serious when I say this. Where do you people get your information from, and do you think the press can just ignore what "History" says?
@@lescobrandon8045 WTF are you trying to say? Spit it out, don't play games.
@@lescobrandon8045 what “history” are you referring to?
@@Fuzzybeanerizer I'm not playing games, and I also don't owe you an explanation. Now sit down Mo Ron.
ukraine is lucky the west is so firmly behind it, since 2014 all the training they received has worked wonders for them, they are a capable military who are driving the incompetent russians out, in spite of the advantage the russians have in weapons systems, ukraine is still holding them back and driving them back in places !!!
I guess they are soo LUCKY…. I mean it’s not the news msnbc and abc and New York Times and Washington post was screaming ukriane was a completely corrupt country which it is and that SAME COUNTRY paid our sitting president?? - NO big deal. Not even worth mentioning OBVIOUSLY
The Russians do not have an advantage in weapons systems. Ukraine is using a lot of American technology.
@@CertifiedClapaholic the russians have 10,000 tanks in storage an airforce, a navy, many types of precision missile systems, hordes of siberian blood thirsty hounds and more, thye have the left over weapons of the former USSR a super power and still they are being beaten, thanks to the trainning they got from the americans who trained them well and they are good students too ?
The Russians don’t have heart. And Putin can’t muster it from them. Trumps genius bedfellow is faltering bigly.
@@ordinaryman2299 the training helps, no doubt about it. I was just letting you know that American weaponry is what's causing the biggest issue for Russians, namely Javelin missiles.
❤️Ukrainians 🇬🇪
Ya think the Finns don’t know this ?… the Finns have had years to prepare, the Brits over there too now..
Hate to think of Putin’s blood pressure after hearing this.😂📈😂
He’s about to get an olive removed from he’s lung, due to inhaling it from his drink by mistake
Putin will use nukes....sayin... I sure hope Im wrong
@@danholm4952 Russian comments so far have been fairly calm, mainly warn "not good" if NATO bases come to Finland. They hardly come because NATO bases are expensive to maintain and Finland has its own good defense.
@@londop.a.3048 Most Russians don't support the Ukraine conflict and don't want to start another war with Finland/NATO, just look at interviews from common folk.
@@coloradoing9172 I have watched channel "1420", the people are much wiser than their leaders
I am quite sure that the day Russia attacks Finland, it will be a little bit like an obese lion trying to crack open a porcupine. The porcupine may be small, but attacking it face to face is just suicidal. Even if you are lion King.
@Predbeau101 tell that to the tens of thousands of dead civilians……..derrrrrrrrrrr
On behalf of the European artillery superpower that is Finland, I invite Russia to try. If Putin is that desperate to destroy the entire military might of Russia, we can and will finish what our friends in Ukraine have started. They only had 8 years to prepare for an all-out Russian offensive, we've had almost 80.
What about attacking that tiny porcupine with a hammer 🔨
@@ObakeOnna Russia attacking Finland is a bit like an obese lion trying to have an easy meal on a porcupine. The lion maybe powerful, but it is fat and obese. The porcupine maybe small, but it has a formidable defense and is not afraid to lose a few spikes to teach the stupid fat lion a lesson.
BLAHBLAHBLAH..
I didn’t expect the Russian military to be this incompetent.
The second best army in the world is the 2nd best army in Ukraine.
Same, it's stunning how badly the initial week went for the Russians.
Not true , Russia is prolonging the war to gain more power for negotiation. If you believed lies of WMD, Vietnam, korean. Afgan, and Iraq then you can believe anything the military industrial complex can tell you to sell more weapon on our dead bodies
I`m sure Marshall Zhukov is rolling in his grave lol
@@malahammer The world's best army was second best to herders in Afghanistan who don't even posses an air force
He sent to the great Oracle at Delphi to know whether he should go to war against the Persian Empire and the oracle replied: "If Croesus goes to war he will destroy a great empire."
The great empire Croesus ended up destroying by war was his own.
Putin destroyed Russia because he didn't heed the Oracle of Delphi's warning to Croesus.
The oracles were the original trolls, weren't they? There was one philosopher who died when an eagle dropped a tortoise on his head (mistaking his bald scalp for a rock)--but the only reason he was outdoors in the first place was because he had been told he would die on that day from "the fall of a house" and was trying to outsmart destiny.
The United States may just make the same mistake.
@Putler Zwastika It does, but I know that they are not alone in contributing to their destruction.
Really.
Stand with Putin against a NWO. ✊🏻
clown
If people want to protest against the war in Russia they can engage in passive resistance and still have a huge impact. If done at a low enough individual level it would be hard for the authorities to uncover. Let's start with the railroads: 1)They can stage silent strikes where workers don't show up for work or call in sick. If the workers rotate who will be sick it can be hard to detect. 2)They can also change bills of lading to misdirect shipments to the wrong area or they can ship it via a circuitous route which is inefficient. 3)They can sit on paperwork to slow shipments. 4)They can damage signaling and switching equipment. 5)They can delay safety inspections and refuse to let shipments move until they are complete. 6)They can manipulate shipping schedules and create traffic jams by scheduling multiple trains on the same piece of track at the same time. 7)They can delay the loading and offload of supplies. 8)They can schedule unnecessary repairs which delay shipments. 9)They can purposefully load the wrong supplies on the wrong trains. 10)They can under or overload trains. If overloaded the chance of accident and maintenance increases. If they intentionally underutilize shipments that can cause logistical problems too.
Somewhat similar to what French munitions workers did, during the French/Indo-China war (defective grenades and artillery shells)
Sadly, most of the Russian population is pro war
Excellent suggestions even the most ardent pacifists can get behind. Prayers for everyone.
Yes they can do all these things and if caught executed on the spot.
A competent Russian armed-forces in a stand-by 'cold-war' situation just in the Eurasian 'theater' alone would need to maintain at least as much power and adequate logistics (and situational back-up) for 5 'fronts', Russia couldn't even handle 2 fronts (northern-northeast and southeast-eastern Ukraine), so the idea that they would open up a major potentially-porous long-front against a Nato-backed Finland would be a thumbs-down vote for most Russian top military-leaders and collaborationist strategic experts.
Except that Putin isn’t listening to his generals. He’s putting them on house arrest, jailing them and suspending them. That is one of the failings of an autocracy, only ‘Dear Leader’ is right.
Finland and Sweden are the frosting on NATOs cake. Maybe Russia will change their corrupt government to keep people like Putin out of power in the future?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and you know this how?
@@T.M.N.N because Russia is a weak poor country that has lost every conflict it has ever engaged in during putler's reign , including conflicts like Chechnya ..... In their own country ......
@@T.M.N.N you gonna say he’s wrong?
Go for it; can’t WAIT to hear the explanation of how Russia manages to dominate Finland.
It’s baffling that Russia can bully other countries and tell them what they can and can’t do. Go Finland and Sweden!
Just like their adversary and master bully, the USA.
They really can’t. They have no real authority. Russia is a third world country with only one tangible threat: nukes. But if even one is used, Russia will no longer exist.
@@EDKKPR Like Russia did with Afghanistan? Btw, dozens upon dozens of other nations participated in Iraq.
@@EDKKPR We had UN resolutions for both. What does Russia have?
@@supergoodadvice853 Russia didn’t. They strongly disagreed with our reason for going into Iraq
Russian arrogance will bring russia to its knees.
Why wait for their preemptive strike? We need to do a pre- preemptive strike.
But if NATO does that, Putin can claim 'they started it' and up the ante to possibly nukes. Unlikely, hopefully - but you never know how a cornered and rattled Putin may react.
Russia invading, Finland would be complete foolishness on the part of Russia. Finland decades ago fought Russia to a standstill during the winter war. Ever since then they have readied themselves for another invasion by Russia. They are every bit as capable if not more so than the Ukrainians were at the start of the Ukrainian invasion. If the Russians were to invade Finland, the Russian army would in all probability dissolve away into nothingness between the two countries.
NATO would be the least of Putin's concerns.
weird comma at the start there. Finland lost the winter wars.. ceded 9% of their territory.. not against russia... But THE SOVIET UNION... Lol.. And apparently you believe everything you see on TV. Russia is one of the super powers of the world. Along with US , China... this made me laugh thanks
Not gonna come back to read your reply. Just sayin
@@chabekak Hi, you're right about the comma. I don't know why spell check does some of the things it does. Also agree with you on several of your points.
However, Russia was the principal part of the Soviet Union. It can be argued that it's military was even more powerful then it is now because the Soviet Union encompassed a larger population and therefore more troops.
Also, it would appear that the modern Russian army is still using Soviet military doctrine. Essentially modern weapons withstanding, it's still a very similar military to the one that fought the Finns in the winter war.
And as far as Finland losing the winter war, the very fact that the Soviet Union ( Russia) agreed to stop fighting in exchange for 9% of Finland when their objective was to incorporate the entirety of the country into the Soviet Union I would call fighting them to a standstill.
The fact of the matter is that the Soviet Union found the winter war extremely costly.
One final point for you. I'm in my mid '50s and don't really watch TV news or even the TV very much. The history I have comes out of books that in some cases are older than I am. My parents were adults during much of the aforementioned history so, there you go.
Oops, one other thought, At this point, one would be hesitant to think of Russia as a superpower. The entire world is left scratching their heads after their abysmal performance in Ukraine. The only thing and I do mean the only thing at all that keeps them on the world superpower stage is the fact that they have nuclear weapons. Nothing else.
How is someone who smuggled drugs into a country wrongfully detained? She just said that right?
Because politically correct.
@@JJM-qf8dz media supports blatant crime now amazing!
It's not unusual for Russian authorities to make up charges. Don't blindly trust what Russia says, especially when it concerns US citizens. I'm 99 % sure the allegations are pure BS and that she's a bargaining chip for Putin.
PUTIN IS BEST RECRUITER OF ALL TIME👍👍👍
I remember Gen. Petraeus from when I used to serv in the 101st Airborne the pic on my RUclips profile is of the coin he gave me while I was deployed in Iraq back in 2003 he was a really cool leader.
I appreciate your service
Finland and Sweden have prepared for decades, they’re truly ready for Russia. It appears Russia won’t be a country anymore by 5 yrs time. I will be in bed watching that show on TV.
If you still will own a bed by then
Putin will be happy and retired in his Bond Villain mountain fortess with his private army tho...with all the money he stole. I suspect that is his real plan.
'Golden parachutes for everyone'
How did Finland join NATO so quickly? Ukraine couldn't even join that quickly and was told it takes years
Finland already has ticked a lot of the boxes needed to join NATO, Ukraine doesn't.
They didn’t. The Finnish parliament starts debate this coming week. Doubt it will take long. They will be in before the end of the year easily.
Ukraine still had a fledgling democracy and still had corruption issues. Now they are in an active conflict with Russia. No way they would be admitted until the war is over and territory disputes settled.
@@dkupke Turkey is gonna vote aginst it, so they won't be in nato before the end of the year.
@@stryker290 I reiterate, Turkey is not going to block it, they’d be utter fools to. Endogan is trying to use the threat of blocking it to leverage sone concessions, such as other nato members ending support for the Kurdish rebels in Syria or unfreezing Turkey’s bid for EU membership. It’s pretty typical opportunism for him.
"Our cash level is running low now, but we are going to retaliate by cutting more revenue and possibly burning more money faster on senseless bombing and sending more unorganized battalions to be smacked in front of the world," also shows the mirror.
No logic.
No logic.
Putin cannot replace his losses in equipment or manpower,so it will be interesting (and scary) to see what he does next.
Record current account balance
@@mikedunn7795 Or to see what's to be done onto him.
If Putin had done nothing he would not be seeing all his objections coming to pass🤯
Yeah y'all said the samething about Ukraine...........how that work out?
The general reminds me of a senior western politician who was once asked, during a crisis, about the situation in his country. His reply was: "Two weeks ago we stood on the edge of an abyss. Since then, we have taken a large step forward."
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You're on point! For the life of me, I don't understand why MSNBC is asking Petraeus to appear here. Petraeus RESIGNED IN DISGRACE from his military career. It all happened right here in Tampa. Florida. The newspapers here covered the story for weeks! This man is definitely a has-been. He needs to stay quietly in retirement.
Patton said if we didn't fight communists Russia after WW2 we would regret it.
Less than two weeks later he was dead.
Putin: This is just another example of how our actions have random results.
Actually very predictable results.
They just didn’t see them…
Fighting Finland (and possibly Sweden) is not like fighting Ukraine. There will a new level of hurt for the Russians if they attack with their 20th century weapons.
The Fins and Swedes kicked the crap out of the russkies in ww2. They're in for another beating if they attack those countries.
@@harrylongabaugh7402 seriously how do people keep forgetting how the Finns got destroyed later in ww2 by the soviets because they got overconfident and joined Germany in there invasion of the ussr.
@@JosueHernandez-nu5cp They did not actually get "destroyed." The results of the Continuation War were not much different from the results of the Winter War. Russia held onto mostly the same small areas of Finland, while about 5 Russians died for every Finn.
@@Fuzzybeanerizer soviet logistics improved after the winter war, they weren’t the same.
@@JosueHernandez-nu5cp I'm sure lots of things improved as lessons were learned, but my point is look at the maps after each conflict. Look at the ratio of dead Russians per dead Finn. Not that much difference. I'm talking about actual results.
You can't call it a fast track process when Russia's best friends Turkey has said that they will veto Finland and Sweden joining NATO. I hope Turkey doesn't still wants to join EU since guess which countries that is going to return that favour?
none said about finland. erdogan mentioned scandinavia especially holland and sweden.
@@Seitbp242 - Holland is already a member of NATO and is not a Scandinavian country.
To be honest, I am actually in shock that Turkey is part of NATO, considering its ties with Russia. I also thought Putin best friend was China, not Turkey...In any case, I seriously hope Turkey will not Veto the bid. Both countries would be a HUGE asset to the organization and it would be a missed opportunity - including for Turkey - in regards to world security and world peace...
@@realspyfrog true. still erdogan mentioned it. finland is situated on fennoscandia which erdogan didnt mention. of the record u.s already had a call with turkey and u.s confirmed turkey wont stand against.
@@DanielBrongers Please, please, you're talking American too much. There is global sanity.
Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Thank you General Patreas
So, is it alright for me to attack and storm my next-door neighbor if they try to make friends with our neighbors across the street? Give me a break.
Your neighbor live on the opposite side of the globe?
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN JUST FINISHED HIMSELF
Russia will get a nuclear strike where ever puttin area it will be
@Jay ..the man is probably already sick’n’dying ..that would explain the kamikaze-way of living!
Waging wars towards everyone around his ..since he got nothing left to loose(if I’m dying anyway!?)
@@SirAser.F__k.you.Google 👍I AGREE. !
russia can't even defeat a military 1/10th it's size with their dysfunctional, decrepit military but it's going to open another front against several advanced 21st Century militaries??? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Uh, ACCORDING TO THE LYING MSM.
PRAYING HERE PUTIN TAKES.OUT THE ILLEGAL US BIOLABS AND STOPS THE NEXT PLANDEMIC GATES SAID WOULD BE WORSE THAN COVID-19.
THOSE LABS WERE SET UP BY SEN OBAMA AND LUGAR IN 2005.
SAME YR THE NIH REPORTED UNDER FAUKKI THAT HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE IS A POTENT INHIBITOR OF SARS - CORONA VIRUS FAUKKI LATER LIED AND DENIED.
The Polish on Twitter are on FIRE with memes!
Poland is waiting for Vlad like a fat grinning SPIDER! 🕸
Time for Finland to get the territory and property stolen by Stalin Sr. back from Stalin Jr.
@@davidgrover5996 We don´t want it anymore. The amount of money we would need to bring the infrasdtructure up to date would be astronomical. I have traveled by car in Eastern Karelia in the 1990:s and it was like going 100 years back in time.
@@trident6547 After Soviet management I am surprised it was that well maintained.
As long as the lesser reincarnation of Stalin doesn’t start a hot war it probably won’t be an issue.
But if he does costing them territory for a return to peace will probably be a necessity to drive the point home that this is stupid.
But she's so victimized here, poor baby. Why come back?
The Liar and Traitor.
Reminds me of the story of a scorpion trying to cross a swift river. He asked a sly fox passing by if he would give him a ride across the river. The sly fox said "No way! You will sting me and I will die!". The scorpion said, "No I won't. If I do that I will drown and die too." The sly fox thought about it for a few seconds and said, "Hop on I'll give you a ride." Half way across the river the scorpion stings the fox. With his dying breath the sly fox asks "Why? You are going to die now too." The scorpion replied, "I could not help myself. It's just in my nature."
Remember this story when dealing with Putin.
Good point. For Putin its survival,
For us no big deal. The poor people caught in the middle-it’s very sad.
Let's not make the same mistake we made in Iraq. I hope Zelenskyy continues on to Moscow and arrests Putin.
LOL. That seems unlikely
topple a dictator...this is precisely what is happening now..at a;; cost...imagine russia next yr...in NATO?
@@chriswoods662 nope they wouldn't let Russian join, since then they wouldn't have an excuse to exist
what gets me is france says ukraine needs to award putin . one thing the french have down is surrendering .want to give putin land give him some french land. maybe a new nation with a white flag as national colors .
France is most coward state. Remember Vichy government ww2, President of France with German chancellor blocked Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova from E.U. and NATO and even now, France tells Ukraine to give up some land to Russia to keep Putin’s face. France can give up their own lands and give it to Putin if they want
Why do we still ask people like Petraeus for their opinion? He pleaded guilty to a charge of "mishandling classified material"--as a four-star general, no less. This was a plea agreement. Felony charges were initially considered. These people need to go away, enjoy their pensions, bonk their mistresses (you can look it up), and be happy that they're not behind bars.
Because he an expert and knows what’s he’s talking about..
listen and you might learn.. maybe🧐
Probably because of his many yrs of experience as a military leader, regardless of his scandal.
@@karylhogan5758 So he's an expert. OK, so he has an opinion. I don't see that his opinion in this clip is supported by any evidence. Why do we assume that a deeply compromised man of exceptionally poor judgment is an expert on foreign policy simply because he was a general and Director of the CIA? Have people in these positions in recent decades struck you as major foreign-policy experts?
@@vallee7966 And "experience as a military leader" is the same as foreign-policy expertise? What kind of an argument is that?
@@alfredlutz7258 if you have made no mistakes in life..
You have learned nothing.
I don’t care about a persons personal life, or rumors.
He knows his stuff and his opinion of value to listen to..
Men who served under him all speak well of him…🧐..
That’s enough for me..
Thank you for your insight General Patraeus❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏✡️✝️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦victory for Ukraine 🇺🇦 and G-d protect 🇫🇮 Finland! Stand strong Finland, you have the world on your side! From Dr Edward Moskowitz MD FACS ABU AAGU, Pocatello Idaho .. 🇺🇸
Why use the term preemptive? I understand what you're getting at with the prior to them joining nato statement but it implies that there will be action from nato towards Russia after the fact which is just not true. Russia is amping up for something they know is not gonna happen unless they act 1st.
Using the term preemptive plays right into Russia's propaganda that's exactly the terminology they want us to use.
When a country takes defensive military action in response to a blow that hasn’t landed yet but is about to, what should we call it?
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564 Scared.
War
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564 No blow is about to land. Finland isn't going to attack Russia. The fact that the Finns are on the point of making internal policy changes that Russia doesn't like isn't a "blow", in and of itself. Russia can't tell Finland to stay out of NATO any more than they could tell them to stay out of the EU. Your description of a preemptive strike is spot on, but in the case of Finland joining NATO it doesn't apply.
Like what putin does in ukraine? Preemtive special military operations?
Oh putin angry bird at Finland before Finland JOINS NATO? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Russian Preemptive Strike Not Likely Before Finland Is Formally Within NATO"
LOL yea, because you can only pull "I'm doing the thing I just said I wouldn't do" once within a certain amount of time before people call your bluff.
No nukes, promise...
I learned nothing here.
Turkey against Finland/Sweden joining nato
Russia needs to mess up more. That would be a disaster for them to try a attack on finland.
How have they messed up so far?
Very good of MSNBC to give our intel agencies a voice. I know they have their best intentions in mind.
Finland would demolish weak Russia , without blinking , when Russia likely collapses this summer/autumn Finland will likely reclaim the Karelian peninsula , if Russia attacked Finland , there is a good chance Finland would sack Moscow ......
Russia has hypersonics.
@@weneedcriticalthinking Finland has RERKELE and SISU !!!
@@askohelminen8511 and also: the Finns have not forgotten Stalin invasion!
Ukraine and Finland could split Moscow 50/50. It would be a nice addition to both. Win-win.
@@weneedcriticalthinking Russia should be more concerned with having enough bread.
Bread riots have destroyed Russia more than any weapon or invader in it's long history. Just food for thought.
When Russians get hungry enough they actually do eat the Rich
General Petraeus it is comforting to see you rested and at peace. You have been a blessing to America the Beautiful. SHALOM.....
General Betrayus is evil.
@@fjccommish compared to???? the Trump, putin, entire admin of trump administration trying to disappear $$$$$ 8-EIGHT TRILLION of U S TAXPAYERS MONEY?????
That 8 trillion blather is a fake story.
Uh, but Turkey is likely to vote against Finland joining NATO. This requires a unanimous vote, and Erdogan leans towards supporting Putin.
I'd rather have Finland and Sweden in, and let Turkey go, if I was choosing. Turkish drones are nice, but it seems like Turkey has had some problems in recent years.
One nation in an alliance of 30?