When Unknown the Magic Man Challenged Roy Jones Jr.

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025
  • History of Boxing recaps Roy Jones's fight against Antonio Tarver. It was a legendary fight.
    For years, Roy Jones Jr. dominated professional boxing, moving up weight classes and claiming titles along the way. Despite dreams of heavyweight bouts with legends like Tyson and Holyfield, negotiations fell through, and Jones returned to light heavyweight. There, Antonio Tarver awaited, eager to challenge Jones' defense.
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  • @nsmboxingen
    @nsmboxingen  7 месяцев назад +29

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    • @GarryDaniels
      @GarryDaniels 7 месяцев назад

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  • @brianseneca3546
    @brianseneca3546 7 месяцев назад +57

    This was a TRULY shocking moment in boxing! Roy had just won the WBA Heavyweight title and won a somewhat controversial decision over Tarver. But seeing Roy get KO'd and then in the very next fight KO'd and actually worse! I have never seen a fighter become shot in the span of just one fight. Roy was truly the best of his generation and probably should have stayed at Heavyweight and then retire. Way too many loses on his record that really dont mean anything. He was long past his amazing prime.

    • @mikem591
      @mikem591 5 месяцев назад +15

      I think Jones was shot when he entered the ring in the first Tarver fight. His reflexes and legs weren’t the same. Burning off all that muscle messed up his body. If he stayed at HW he would have had a couple good years left, with little decline. His decline was shocking, sad and also sort of strange. We know the alleged reason, but there was still something odd about it.

    • @nycitylifeandhistory
      @nycitylifeandhistory 2 месяца назад

      Tarver was 22-1 and held 4 belts please

    • @DavidJohnson-ev9xs
      @DavidJohnson-ev9xs 2 месяца назад +1

      @@nycitylifeandhistory nobody called tarver a bum. But he was not better than Roy before going up to hw and coming back down. Anyone with eyes can see Roy wasn’t the same he was before going up an coming back down. Not taking anything from tarver, but it was a reason he never beat Roy before, they grew up fighting their whole lives.

    • @tommyh5
      @tommyh5 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DavidJohnson-ev9xstarver was a beast and a big guy! My cousin fought him on hbo Shelby gross from Camden SC

    • @DavidJohnson-ev9xs
      @DavidJohnson-ev9xs 2 месяца назад

      @@tommyh5 definitely I would never take anything from tarver.

  • @sd-11-11-sd
    @sd-11-11-sd 7 месяцев назад +153

    Dropping back from heavyweight was the true hidden nemesis for captain hooks demise. What an amazing fighter he was, though.

    • @mahachtv5316
      @mahachtv5316 7 месяцев назад +6

      1000%

    • @mahachtv5316
      @mahachtv5316 7 месяцев назад +7

      but it was the best time in boxing

    • @kbb9045
      @kbb9045 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@mahachtv5316 I agree! RJJ was great.

    • @DeionHarris
      @DeionHarris 7 месяцев назад +9

      no it wasnt yall can live that dam lie until yall die after that first fight your body adjust back to normal that dont hurt u for life stop the dam cap thats all yall fake roy fans gonna remember is that dam weight cut like this man wasnt ever gonna lose if not for that weight cut get out of here and take da caps with you

    • @anenclavetrooper9707
      @anenclavetrooper9707 7 месяцев назад +22

      @@DeionHarrisyou can literally lose muscle mass and hydration from cutting that amount of weight bro what

  • @signalhilltv5237
    @signalhilltv5237 7 месяцев назад +52

    You normally don't see guys move up, then move back down, especially if they put on lean muscle mass.

    • @DeionHarris
      @DeionHarris 7 месяцев назад

      well when they had the second fight everything was normal and back in place so lets stop harping on that roy could never fight all he was was athletic and fast that man couldnt box or fight and tarver proved it roy didnt scare nobody but bums if u could fight roy couldnt do nothing with u but tap tap run speed speed run thats all he did and thats why his fights with bernard and toney and them was boring because he was too fast for them and they was too slow for him and thats all he did was beat people with speed and then he started to get caught when those reflexes started to leave he was getting caught and i knew that was gonna happen because roy had no jab no jab at all he was so stuck on his speed and reflexes he didnt need one but i knew when his ass slowed down a tick they was gonna beat his ass and it wasnt about no weight cut that was over and done after the first tarver fight but people live in excuses thats all they do and its a old quote it says if you love something you make excuses for it and there it is

    • @signalhilltv5237
      @signalhilltv5237 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@DeionHarris ROFL you have me dying your premise is like saying all Shaq could do was dunk, but nobody could stop it. Then you said all he did was fight bums but mentioned two of the greatest fighters of all in time in Toney and Hopkins, I would not consider Mike McCallum, Felix Trinidad, Virgil Hill as bums either. Facts are you never see fighters move up put on lean muscle mass then come back down. Now you can add that to slide that was already happening he was trying to rap (badly) play basketball, do all these other things like Adrien Broner. Now I will admit it's some guys I would have like to see him fight, but you know how Don king, and bob arum rolled to fight my fighters, you have to sign with me, which Roy did not want to do at the time. So, Gerald Mccellan, Nigel Benn, Julian Jackson would have loved to see those fights.

    • @darrenstopper1806
      @darrenstopper1806 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@signalhilltv5237roberto Duran was a bum.all he could do was fight

    • @signalhilltv5237
      @signalhilltv5237 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@darrenstopper1806 Duran was one of my favorite fighters of all time, now he could do it because he was low key chubby, but Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield someone who bulked up with lean muscle mass, going to be detrimental moving back down Duran was he 72 and 1 at some point? I picked up the sarcasm haha

    • @miketokles9451
      @miketokles9451 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​thats good cause he laid it on pretty thick

  • @josephchavis9298
    @josephchavis9298 7 месяцев назад +62

    There wasn't a myth. Dropping 35 lbs of muscle to drop back th LHW depleted Roy's body. Period. Had that not happened Tarver would've got a whoopin

    • @monta247
      @monta247 4 месяца назад +7

      Perfect on the money ,You are not just a fan, you understand the science.

    • @BottleDeposit
      @BottleDeposit 3 месяца назад +3

      Didn't RJJ weigh < 200lbs (somewhere around 195) in that John Ruiz fight at HW?
      Even if he cut to 175, I don't think the cut forced him to lose that much muscle, much less 35lbs.
      He did say he had to lose 25lbs in preparation for that Tarver fight (6:27) and weight cutting wasn't as advanced back then so maybe RJJ's lack of experience in actual weight cutting made things tough for him

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад +5

      Cutting weight is apart of the game. Nobody forced him to take the fight. The real problem was RJJs speed and athleticism dropped off drastically bcuz his steroids didn’t work anymore. So he got KTFO 😂

    • @dukeonwheels
      @dukeonwheels 2 месяца назад +4

      @@poindextertunes Steroids don’t help with fast twitch muscle and reflexes genius. They would only slow him down more.

    • @imronburgundy69
      @imronburgundy69 2 месяца назад +3

      193 lbs when he fought Ruiz
      You literally just made up a number, and are saying that's there's not a myth, the irony lol

  • @rolltide9547
    @rolltide9547 7 месяцев назад +86

    Prime Roy makes Tarver look like a bar room fighter

    • @alfredmcglothen6050
      @alfredmcglothen6050 6 месяцев назад +8

      I agree . He would’ve destroyed Tarver in his prime definitely before that weight and muscle loss after he moved up to heavyweight. He beat a lot better easy than Tarver.

    • @alfredmcglothen6050
      @alfredmcglothen6050 6 месяцев назад +2

      I agree . He would’ve destroyed Tarver in his prime definitely before that weight and muscle loss after he moved up to heavyweight. He beat a lot better easy than Tarver. Particularly Bernard Hopkins and James Toney.

    • @robd5254
      @robd5254 6 месяцев назад

      What at 154, 160....

    • @rolltide9547
      @rolltide9547 6 месяцев назад

      @@robd5254 168 or 175

    • @alfredmcglothen6050
      @alfredmcglothen6050 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@robd5254 Would be the same . Tarver would’ve been way too slow for prime Roy Jones . The version that lost to Tarver, had some flashes of speed that were phenomenal. Young Roy would not have tired and overwhelmed Tarver . He probably would’ve stopped him . Especially at 160 .

  • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
    @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 7 месяцев назад +37

    No, the hell he did not. Going up and down in weight mowing down champs did that to Roy. Roy was basically like 55-0. He lost one fight to a DQ in nearly 60 fights. Hardly anyone could compare to a prime Roy Jones.

    • @SONOFPEARL315
      @SONOFPEARL315 7 месяцев назад +7

      So basically it was time for him to get taken out...no matter how phenomenal a fighter is, time catches up with all of us...but I too believe a prime Roy beats Tarver

    • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
      @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@SONOFPEARL315 no it was not. he was still in his prime agewise. your body can't take gaining and losing weight that way. nobody would even chance their career doing that today. he barely beat Tarver the first time. he did not look the same then either. his speed was completely gone. Tarver was a C class boxer at best.

    • @SONOFPEARL315
      @SONOFPEARL315 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw u just said it...his speed was gone, why? Because as u get older your reflexes get slower...just because he was in his prime age wise means nothing because he literally had been fighting since before he was a teen as an amateur so his body was definitely past prime from the punches, the training etc...TIME CATCHES UP WITH ALL OF US...

    • @leftydrizel1842
      @leftydrizel1842 7 месяцев назад +1

      If he retires after he beat Tarver, he can say he is rhe GOAT 🐐. He still is the beat I ever saw.
      Pacquiao fell victim to the same thing as Roy
      They had a rival that sat & studied them.
      Just stayed too long & a guy whose whole life was focused on beating them
      Both lost the same way.
      Had ro wait until they were diminished to beat them

    • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
      @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@SONOFPEARL315 dude...he was nowhere near retiring age. he was in his early 30s still. most boxers don't retire until 40.

  • @airforcex9412
    @airforcex9412 7 месяцев назад +42

    Roy Jones’ boxing style was not sustainable. It was effective because he was in supreme shape. But it was quite inefficient in terms of energy expenditure. When he slowed down a bit, his weaknesses were exposed.

    • @samuelmarquez3757
      @samuelmarquez3757 7 месяцев назад +3

      Right on the money 💰

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

      100% even the steroids couldn’t save him. Roy was chinny as well

    • @gsentinel4821
      @gsentinel4821 2 месяца назад +3

      ABSOLUTELY AGREE, great observation and I always thought the same thing about Jones - He was a great champion; incredibly fast and agile, with great power but it was only a matter of time before his speed would decline over time just enough to have someone like a Tarver expose his extremely flawed boxing style which lacked many basic fundamentals.- In addition he had a weak chin. Now Bernard Hopkins on the other hand was a master boxer and it showed in his later bout with Tarver - He made Tarver look like a rank amateur.

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee 2 месяца назад +1

      athleticism always has this trajectory lol

    • @blacksuburban2410
      @blacksuburban2410 Месяц назад

      The weight drop is what caused the weaknesses, friend.

  • @GarryDaniels
    @GarryDaniels 7 месяцев назад +24

    The bout between Roy Jones Jr. and Antonio Tarver was an epic clash of two great boxers. This fight marked a pivotal moment in their careers, with Jones showcasing his unique technique and Tarver demonstrating remarkable endurance and character. Boxing lacks such fights nowadays.

    • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
      @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 7 месяцев назад +7

      when was Tarver ever great? this man was a C class fighter at best.

    • @marandymbamara9099
      @marandymbamara9099 7 месяцев назад +4

      Tarver was C class! He was just lucky to fight a fading Roy who had no answers to his aggressiveness. Imagine how Hopkins demolished him with embarrassing ease

    • @LilFatMike913
      @LilFatMike913 7 месяцев назад +2

      I heard Roy was forced to sell the bout

    • @conceitedfication
      @conceitedfication 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@LilFatMike913by who???

    • @LilFatMike913
      @LilFatMike913 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@conceitedfication I don't know how true it is, but the who told me at least knew Roy. Similar to Michael Jordan being forced to leave NBA

  • @Willardbeans00
    @Willardbeans00 Месяц назад +1

    “I gotta question. you got any excuses tonight Roy? … I remember watching this fight… 🔥🔥

  • @lafarruspennington5831
    @lafarruspennington5831 7 месяцев назад +43

    Roy Jones Jr should have stayed at heavyweight and never went back down in weight class..

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 7 месяцев назад +15

      He should have retired after the Ruiz win. Would have went down a goat

    • @That-guy916
      @That-guy916 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@el34glo59exactly! Should have retired….every decision he made after claiming the heavyweight belt was bad

    • @terrellc8658
      @terrellc8658 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah

    • @AdellesAK47
      @AdellesAK47 6 месяцев назад +1

      He wouldn't have lasted at heavyweight. His chin was too suspect

    • @terrellc8658
      @terrellc8658 6 месяцев назад

      @@AdellesAK47 true

  • @reefferhemp9774
    @reefferhemp9774 7 месяцев назад +3

    That first fight was epic 😮🥃🃏

  • @luckynhlanhlatshabalala2475
    @luckynhlanhlatshabalala2475 7 месяцев назад +6

    🥊 Sweet art of boxing 🥊

    • @Cplm92017
      @Cplm92017 7 месяцев назад +2

      Sweet science of the square circle 🦍🥊💤

  • @zoookeeper2098
    @zoookeeper2098 7 месяцев назад +8

    Roy got this fight late in his Career, this is the fight most champions get early , their wasn't anymore to match him early!

  • @SilverBackCeasar7414
    @SilverBackCeasar7414 Месяц назад

    Lmao 🤣 the way Roy was looking in the thumb nail was like he was thinking "Damn, did i remember to cut the oven off." 😂😂😂

  • @LosGlenn
    @LosGlenn 5 месяцев назад +5

    This one still hard to swallow just like Tyson and Douglas

  • @karriemsharief
    @karriemsharief 6 месяцев назад +11

    A lot of excuse makers for Roy in these comments. Tarver was just too much for Roy. Roy had a great career but as soon as he lost his legs he came a punching bag.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад +2

      The excuses are wild. Especially for a guy that got popped for PEDs. How come he gets a pass? 🤔

    • @JiggyJones0
      @JiggyJones0 2 месяца назад +1

      You also made an excuse for Roy in your last sentence. How ironic.

  • @pandaplutten2573
    @pandaplutten2573 Месяц назад +2

    No one, absolutely nobody can defeat time. Not even the great Roy Jones Jr. -who HAD the most amazing reflexes, hand speed ... a talent that is one in a million in the world of boxing. But when all of that slows down, and even his punching power ... and once you tasted a knockdown then it is all down hill from there. Sadly. I choose to remember Roy Jones Jr. as one of the greatest, if not THE greates of all time when he was in his prime. Definitely the most entertaining. He invented the Matrix that we see in Loma today. The showmanship that Prince Naseem tried to copy. Now all there is left is to avenge Mike Tyson against Jake Paul ... or please don't!!!

  • @mikelarrie5634
    @mikelarrie5634 7 месяцев назад +20

    That's cause he drop weight after gaining it . Jones is still my goat in boxing history.

  • @IMikemet
    @IMikemet 2 месяца назад +3

    What's funny is most of us thought that he was going to stay at heavyweight to fight Mike Tyson. They did that BS exhibition when they knew they missed that opportunity years before. Because we saw Tarver knock him out we can only surmise what Mike Tyson might have done to him. No matter who you thought would have won that was a dream fight at that time.

  • @Blackfoot100
    @Blackfoot100 5 месяцев назад +2

    These two men, knew each other from youth, before they became pro , they were on the US boxing team. THEY FOUGHT AS EACH OTHER BEFORE, WHEN THEY WERE YOUTH.

  • @melvert33
    @melvert33 7 месяцев назад +13

    Tarver was full of himself before and even more so after this fight, he then went straight on to fight Hopkins who completely outclassed him for 12 rounds and made him look average...that's hubris for you.

    • @JaceRivera-t2w
      @JaceRivera-t2w 5 месяцев назад +1

      You are a little off here, Tarver 'ironically' lost to Bernard Hopkins the same way that his rival Roy Jones lost to him. He bulked up to portray Mason Dixon in Rocky Balboa and then he had to drop 15+lbs in order to fight Hopkins which meant he went into the fight incredibly depleted and therefore got the whooping of a life time. If anything it shows the greatness of Roy Jones since he was able to go Toe to Toe with tarver in the first fight when he was fresh off of the weight drain whereas Tarver lost his weight drain fight.

    • @TheDude0218
      @TheDude0218 2 месяца назад

      @@JaceRivera-t2wAn L is an L. Nothing “great” about that. Quit with the excuses.

    • @NoName-zm1ks
      @NoName-zm1ks Месяц назад

      A movie role ain’t the same as a championship fight, super obvious, ain’t it?

  • @NoName-zm1ks
    @NoName-zm1ks Месяц назад +1

    Nah, Roy beat Tarver first fight, he was the fastest most accurate and kept busy. Tarver thought acting like he won the fight after the bell sounded didn’t work.

  • @tikewhite1044
    @tikewhite1044 6 месяцев назад +9

    IF ROY WOULD'VE FOUGHT ANTONIO
    BEFORE HE WENT UP IN WEIGHT....
    IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT SCENE.
    ROY WOULD'VE WON DEFINITIVELY!!!.
    ♠️THE VANITY ADDICT♠️

    • @TheDude0218
      @TheDude0218 2 месяца назад

      Same outcome. These excuses are comical.

    • @tikewhite1044
      @tikewhite1044 2 месяца назад

      @TheDude0218
      TARVER IS COMICAL.
      LOOK AT HIS BOXING RECORD.
      UNDOUBTEDLY ONE OF THE SHORTEST
      SPANS....
      IF NOT THEE SHORTEST....
      IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING.
      HOW MANY WEIGHT CLASSES DID
      TARVER FIGHT IN?....
      IF ANY;
      HMMM?.
      TALK ABOUT AN EARLY RETIREMENT.
      SYLESTER STALLONE DID THIS MAN
      A FAVOR IN ALLOWING HIM TO HAVE
      A GUEST SPOT ON
      "THE CONTENDER".
      YOUR EFFORTS IN KEEPING TARVER RELEVANT....
      ARE A STRETCH.
      WHILE I DON'T SAY THIS LIKELY....
      I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
      ♠️THE VANITY ADDICT♠️

  • @EverettBurger
    @EverettBurger 7 месяцев назад +7

    Cutting weight is was hurt his career

    • @Altezza447
      @Altezza447 2 месяца назад

      cutting weight hurts all boxer they lose everything power endurance less water in head to absorb punches its a down hill fight from the start

  • @jakesmith5278
    @jakesmith5278 7 месяцев назад +5

    Some boxers could never really recover after a lost.

  • @shishioh
    @shishioh 7 месяцев назад +5

    Roy should have retired after Ruiz, or at least took a break to allow his body to get back to it's natural state.
    But man, he could still fire that leather though 😂 You forget how fast his hands were sometimes, then you watch, and listen, to a video.

  • @evanpena9721
    @evanpena9721 2 месяца назад +1

    He did not shatter anything - Roy was the best boxer in the world for a decade - Antonio tarvers whole legacy is built on him beating roy they not the same

  • @maxpower2511
    @maxpower2511 7 месяцев назад +4

    I always said he should have retired after the heavyweight fight with ruiz

  • @Mochic45
    @Mochic45 Месяц назад +1

    Some of the greatest fighters lose but I knew it was over for Roy when he lost to dude in Australia in the 2nd rd....

  • @johndeagle4389
    @johndeagle4389 Месяц назад +1

    What language is Jones speaking at 0:17?

  • @zerocool1ist
    @zerocool1ist 2 месяца назад +1

    Yep i thought that was the same guy from the movie Balboa.

  • @timothymoelk1346
    @timothymoelk1346 6 месяцев назад +1

    I LOVE ROY JONES JR

  • @kafklatsch3198
    @kafklatsch3198 6 месяцев назад +2

    Roy's reflexes were adversely affected from that move up to and down from heavyweight.. I can assure you he never could take a punch but his reflexes kept him from ever getting punched cleanly.. it was inevitable that he would lose just enough speed to be hit eventually, but that heavyweight stint moved it to the "right now" at that time

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

      naw he slowed down just enough that his style wasn’t working anymore. His style was never sustainable

  • @USViper
    @USViper 6 месяцев назад +3

    From 1990 to 2000, Roy was P4P the best fighter the world had ever seen.

  • @henshin587
    @henshin587 2 месяца назад

    I don't understand why people say Roy didn’t see the punch coming-he clearly anticipated it and raised his right hand to block. Unfortunately, the punch landed just slightly in front and clipped him right on the chin. Confidence had always been such a huge part of Roy's fighting style, and once he lost it, he was never the same fighter.

  • @50Deuce502
    @50Deuce502 Месяц назад

    Roy's pride got the best of him. He should have never dropped back down to fight Tarver after moving to Heavyweight. That took a toll on his body, reflexes and speed. He was never the same fighter after that.

  • @pierrefab7185
    @pierrefab7185 4 месяца назад +1

    People don’t realize that Tarver is actually older then Roy

  • @Eighty5iveProd
    @Eighty5iveProd Месяц назад +1

    I gotta question, how much does a polar weigh 🙄
    Lets not ask questions like that

  • @2Jeezuzisreal
    @2Jeezuzisreal 5 месяцев назад +1

    None of the commenters here could lose 25 lbs and get out of bed tomorrow morning. Roy Jones Jr paid the price the most weight classes. Champion in his own right.

  • @infiniteuniverse9528
    @infiniteuniverse9528 2 месяца назад +1

    Tarver caught Jones at the right time. After a miserable weight cut back down from Heavyweight to make this fight.

  • @EdWeeks999
    @EdWeeks999 2 месяца назад

    Roy got shown up as the Mexican Road sweeper he really was by Taver Johnson and a good few others. Never get tired of watching both kos. Enzo Macronelli strarched Royo🥊🇬🇧

  • @rldabomb33
    @rldabomb33 18 дней назад

    to be honest Tarver wasnt an A fighter he just caught Jones at the right time

  • @neilfraser2349
    @neilfraser2349 7 месяцев назад +4

    Exactly as i expected. 10 years later, you speak of Roy Jones, and people STILL say, "One of the greatest of all time!"
    Mention that pompous twit, Tarver, and they say "Who?"

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

      the guy that starched RJJ. You dont remember? They showed it im the video even 😂

  • @bulichew9971
    @bulichew9971 Месяц назад

    Roy in his prime was the quickest puncher ever.

  • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
    @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 7 месяцев назад +6

    3 years before this fight he knocks out Tarver within 6 rounds on any night.

    • @leonidas7281
      @leonidas7281 7 месяцев назад

      😂 you probably think tyson was the greatest too right?

    • @Cplm92017
      @Cplm92017 7 месяцев назад +1

      Iron Mike Tyson is in the top 5 best heavyweight to ever box in history!!! You don't agree???

    • @leonidas7281
      @leonidas7281 7 месяцев назад

      @@Cplm92017 not even top 10

    • @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw
      @JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw 7 месяцев назад

      @@Cplm92017 nope. he is not better than Larry Holmes, Lewis, Foreman, Ali and a few more. the class of fighters he fought in his first 30 fights were cab drivers too.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

      @@leonidas7281oh jeez you’re one of those. You don’t like Mike’s checkered past so you pretend to know boxing and use phrases like “tomato cans” bcuz you think it sounds cool lmao

  • @TheMysticalCompass
    @TheMysticalCompass 2 месяца назад

    Both them dudes had some fast ass hands 😮

  • @sip5625
    @sip5625 2 месяца назад +1

    Roy is the best ever in his prime. Should’ve quit after beating Ruiz

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee 2 месяца назад

    tarvers question was wild mind games

  • @donaldleider7382
    @donaldleider7382 2 месяца назад +1

    All this talk about Roy Jones going from heavyweight back down to light heavy ruining his career is nonsense. Roy started out as a middleweight and moved up slowly in weight. When he won the heavyweight title, he was really just a pumped up light heavyweight. His natural weight at that time between fights was around 175 pounds. There’s an old saying in boxing that you can watch a fighter get old in the ring overnight. That’s what happened to Roy, one of the best fighters ever who just stayed a little too long. It happens to the best of them.

  • @danasaeed9018
    @danasaeed9018 2 месяца назад +1

    This Unknown Is Still Unknown,
    And He Did Not Beat Rocky Balboa, It Was A Draw, Go Back Watch The Film.

  • @WarioSaysSo
    @WarioSaysSo 7 месяцев назад +5

    Roy Jones Jr. was in his best years an amazing unique tallented champion who had great athletics, hand-speed, body movement, footwork and good combinations.
    That all made him the Best P4P Fighter of the 90's. HOWEVER, Jones Jr. was never Superman as one of his many alias said. Jones Jr. like us all aged and with age, the things that go first is speed, reflexes and movement. Jones Jr.'s syle was ALL built of these factors and when they went off, so was his entire boxing style as well.
    Now he was exposed near wide open and ready for the taking. His chin was mediocre at best, his guard was never a thing he had used in the past and with the loss of his speed, much easier to land big hits at. Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson & Bernard Hopkins was all three older men on paper BUT-BUT they where all three known as late-bloomer tallents in the game compared to early bloomer Roy Jones Jr. and they got better with advanced age. So when they finally got there chanse oif fighhting there long era-rival, they where the ones who would prove longer lasting and Jones Jr. the fader.
    Especally Bernard Hopkins, who was 4 YEARS older and came much later into boxing, continued to improve his ring skills and technique at later stage when most other
    stagnates. Hopkins was more hungry and had a much tougher time earning his respect and had called-out Roy Jones Jr. for years for a rematch. And in 2010, when both men was at 41-45 of ages, guess who was the older man but boxing wise prooved to be now the better man in the ring? It was Hopkins, who despite never been known as a big hitter, out-punched and out-boxed his long-age rival with the very same scores Jones Jr. defeated him in 1993, when Hopkins was in comparrison a rookie.
    When Jones Jr.'s career days as champion forever ended in early 2004, Hopkins was the undisputed MW king till 2005, and then the LH world champion from 2006-2008 followed by 2 more reigns in 2011-2012 and 2013-2014, at near age 50 lost his championship crown !!!!

  • @SprayedPepper
    @SprayedPepper 2 месяца назад

    Tarver wasn't unknown, just didn't get the recognition Roy got.

  • @Chris-o9n7p
    @Chris-o9n7p 7 месяцев назад +4

    I always saw that knockout as a bit lucky... (The 2nd fight) and the near knockout in the third was also lucky (wailing with the head down) - Tarver was a good boxer, strong, awkward - But Jones was really shaken by the 2nd fight and for someone who relied on athleticism, while Hopkins (who beat Tarver) fought on smarts.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

      lucky? he hit em right on the chin bro lmao

  • @NoName-zm1ks
    @NoName-zm1ks Месяц назад

    Agree, some fights take the fight outta the boxer, Meldrick Taylor comes to mind, Chavez practically ended Taylor’s career.

  • @abcdef-py6rh
    @abcdef-py6rh Месяц назад

    roy jones is a master in boxing. however, 1 more round in the third fight, Tarver will knock him out. both of them are legend

  • @LEXRAPS
    @LEXRAPS 2 месяца назад

    0:17 what did he say?? 😂😂😂

  • @nissan300zxtt9
    @nissan300zxtt9 2 месяца назад

    Tarver tried the rope a dope first fight and lost period but second tine around he learned and the 3rd fight tarver knew how to beat jones .😊😊😊

  • @rovinmangal4675
    @rovinmangal4675 3 месяца назад

    I remember this, jones was unstoppable before he met the magic man.

  • @charlesdonahue3667
    @charlesdonahue3667 Месяц назад

    How anyone could possible think that Roy ranks anywhere near Mayweather all-time is unfathomable.

  • @poindextertunes
    @poindextertunes 3 месяца назад

    I remember watching this fight with my buddy who was a huge RJJ fan and we both put $20 on the fight. His money was on RJJ and mine was on Tarver. When they met at the center of the ring and Tarver said “You got any excuses tonight Roy?” My buddy’s face dropped and I think at that moment he knew his money was gone 😂

  • @BloodyKnuckl
    @BloodyKnuckl 6 месяцев назад +1

    Prime Roy is still the most phenomenal thing I've ever seen in a ring.
    Time beats us all eventually.

  • @azrielnguyen9586
    @azrielnguyen9586 2 месяца назад

    All that weight gain/loss introduced lag into his performance along with simply being older. Tarver was just in the right place at the right time, Roy is all-time talent and I don't see anything exceptional from Tarver that would give him any chance against a prime Roy.

  • @miketokles9451
    @miketokles9451 7 месяцев назад +2

    I went to roy vs tarver 3 in tampa, we sat in upper bowl but in the first row...what a waist of money, couldnt see shit still because they looked like little army men sonfar away.

  • @trentonpearson196
    @trentonpearson196 6 месяцев назад

    Tarver looks like stickman 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MrKillahippo
    @MrKillahippo 2 месяца назад

    The old swing,swing,swing hug!
    matter of Time before he was worked out.

  • @MarkSchreind
    @MarkSchreind 2 месяца назад

    As you age, you can go up in weight, but you can't come back down again and expect to be the same ... Cat-like reflexes are temporary.

  • @jackson7201
    @jackson7201 2 месяца назад

    Roy Jones suffered his first loss at 38. The same reason there are no good 38-year-old running backs in the NFL is the same reason Roy started losing. He was a fighter who relied on his speed and explosiveness; those are the first things to go as you age. Roy, in his prime, beats Tarver and all the rest of them Yall must of forgot!

  • @Dennis-D-menace-58
    @Dennis-D-menace-58 Месяц назад

    Jones never saw either of those punches coming neither did Tarver....he had his eye's closed both times.

  • @Charles-wf6db
    @Charles-wf6db Месяц назад +1

    Tarver was a clown who couldn’t compete with prime Roy

  • @Dashi26
    @Dashi26 7 месяцев назад +1

    Before typing up a tittle for your video like that. Do you know why this happened, how this happened?? Kids and their boxing accounts.

  • @Quantum3695
    @Quantum3695 6 месяцев назад

    Tarver had a great run after that win. But Jones was the goat.

  • @thedreamsoldiers
    @thedreamsoldiers 3 месяца назад

    If this happened today Roy would've been the A side & forced tarver to meet him at a higher weight. I'm not saying that would've made the difference but it would definitely favor Roy

  • @OPTIONALWATCH
    @OPTIONALWATCH 2 месяца назад

    Jones went to far into his career because he hand't lost. This is an example of what happens. But we give credit to Jones Jr who didn't back down from fighting the best.

  • @stanleyjackson6087
    @stanleyjackson6087 6 месяцев назад +1

    Roy should have retired after his first bout but arrogance got the best of him

  • @juliuscrizo9228
    @juliuscrizo9228 Месяц назад

    Summarizing: The Roy Jones Jr 's daddy was Antonio Tarv3r"

  • @fransiscoscaramanga674
    @fransiscoscaramanga674 6 месяцев назад +1

    turns out the man had a glass jaw..............😜😳😄😁😅

  • @marsflee3815
    @marsflee3815 6 месяцев назад

    In Roy's defense, he was out of his natural weight. He ran out of competition, so he had to take on tougher fights in light-heavies. The same thing happened to Canelo versus Bivol, but Saul has a better chin.

    • @JaceRivera-t2w
      @JaceRivera-t2w 5 месяцев назад

      I mean you can't really compare Roy Jones dominated Light Heavyweight and then he had to move to Heavyweight for a challenge, only to come back to light heavyweight where was promptly dominated due to cutting so much muscle. He realistically should have just stepped down to cruiser weight and use his time there to change his style up but you know Ego is one helluva a drug.

  • @philipvaughn1886
    @philipvaughn1886 7 месяцев назад +1

    sometimes u just gotta knockout a fool twice to gain respect. well done Antonio!

  • @TRAVELER197
    @TRAVELER197 6 месяцев назад

    Roy Jones management team let him down! Not many fighters have gone up in weight 2 classes, then returned to their normal weight and found success! Randy Cotoure and Daniel Cormier are the on 2 combat sports athletes who had success doing so. They did over an extended period!

  • @manuelwole2005
    @manuelwole2005 4 месяца назад

    Oh no. Life sometimes its funny Roy Jones jr used to be great kicking ass machine but now he became bump anyone can beat him.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 7 месяцев назад +2

    Tarver was such an awkward boxer he gave a lot of boxers a lot of problems not just RJJ who was a classic case of styles make fights

    • @karlinwilliamson9329
      @karlinwilliamson9329 7 месяцев назад +1

      Except he lost the fight to Harding, to miss his chance to fight Roy in his prime

    • @misfit2022
      @misfit2022 7 месяцев назад +2

      @Karlin True but he did avenge that loss against Eric Harding

    • @karlinwilliamson9329
      @karlinwilliamson9329 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@misfit2022 yes indeed

  • @OwnTwoFeetRecords
    @OwnTwoFeetRecords 7 месяцев назад

    That southpaw unorthodox length threw Roy’s timing off. The man clearly beat him twice and the first fight was questionable. Styles make fights and Tarvers style didn’t match well. That hook by Tarver in the third fight @11:56 a prime Roy wouldn’t have seen…that was magic. Just gotta give Tarver his props for solving the riddle.

    • @Geoworldwide
      @Geoworldwide 3 месяца назад

      That's 🧢 Prime RJJ would have boxed circles around Tarver. Magic caught Roy at the right time moving back down 25 pounds. Roy wasn't the same and it was obvious. The same way Tarver gained weight for the Rocky movie. When he lost the weight, he let Hopkins a career middleweight move up and beat him up.

  • @ziggysmalls9329
    @ziggysmalls9329 6 месяцев назад

    Roy keeping that guard down

  • @marlongroyon5455
    @marlongroyon5455 6 месяцев назад

    Jones is my idol

  • @major-Mihailo-Madzarevic
    @major-Mihailo-Madzarevic 6 месяцев назад +1

    *Jones WON.*

  • @timCole53
    @timCole53 3 месяца назад

    Did he have Victor Conte in his corner ? One of the best fighters of his era quite sad if his record is tainted in any way.

  • @mikeklassic78
    @mikeklassic78 2 месяца назад

    Roy had to work hard that night! Couldn't play with Tarver

  • @AnywhereTVadventures
    @AnywhereTVadventures 2 месяца назад

    Jones going up in other weight class makes him slower

  • @johndias5160
    @johndias5160 6 месяцев назад

    Jones drop too much muscle to drop down at that weight in an altered dimension he beats John Ruiz and tells Tarver to meet him at heavyweight for that fight and knocks tarver out

  • @dualsoul7398
    @dualsoul7398 4 дня назад

    This fight againts tarver,.. i don't know,...it just me whose saw jones was so different than before?, i mean..he always so agreesive-provoking and fast Counter puncher ,... Just what happened to him!!??😳

  • @alanrael7457
    @alanrael7457 6 месяцев назад +2

    Tarver don't touch RJ jr before he moved up to Heavyweight.

  • @JohnnyPorter-p3k
    @JohnnyPorter-p3k 2 месяца назад

    He never recovered from that weight cut from heavyweight

  • @phx4closureman
    @phx4closureman 5 месяцев назад

    11:58 *ain't that the SAME WAY he got him in the 2nd fight???*

  • @curtisburr8717
    @curtisburr8717 5 месяцев назад

    this fool thought he beat roy jones in that fist fight

  • @fanatic136
    @fanatic136 7 месяцев назад

    3 good fights between the two

  • @CasoDoBronx
    @CasoDoBronx 7 месяцев назад

    Chin was obliterated for life

  • @JadeZuberi
    @JadeZuberi Месяц назад

    Dat boy Mason Dixon lol!

  • @timmcdowell6027
    @timmcdowell6027 6 месяцев назад

    Man roy didnt have nothing else to prove by fighting tarver, losing all that weight ruined him, he had just won the heavyweight title, he should've just retired as a champion now he got all these losses on his record to guys that couldn't carry his jock strap, still my home town favorite pensacola.

  • @brendanbiddle4875
    @brendanbiddle4875 7 месяцев назад +1

    Best light heavyweight was Archie Moore. I know a lot of people will be mad about this statement but I never had Roy Jones rated in the pound for pound category.
    At the time the light heavyweight division was diluted. I will say Mr. Jones had amazing hand speed. I also recognize the importance of him beating Ruiz for the heavyweight strap. Great accomplishment!

    • @JaceRivera-t2w
      @JaceRivera-t2w 5 месяцев назад

      Second best Light Heavyweight was Michael Spinks 'we went undisputed in light heavyweight and was the first fighter to go from Lightheavyweight to heavyweight and then win a championship.
      If anything Roy Jones was trying to top Michael Spinks by moving back down and
      regaining the light heavyweight titles.