Given the premise that world is fundamentally knowable to every human being it doesn’t seem to be so in one’s experience. I guess John V.’s after Socrates project as practical side of his theory is precisely aimed at making this “knowability” quality of the world available for one, but I keep wondering can there be sort of easier ways to get there given general public has to live ordinary busy life where there isn’t much room or time for through practices that John himself follows. Bhakti yoga, maybe, is the way.
Relevance realization sounds like it relies heavily on the imagination of the individual. Is there anything relevant between the infinity of infinities between the numbers 1-2 and the numbers 2-3?
4E cognition is to motivate people who lacked information and boosted into more advanced topics, it is expertie of scientific tradition--what experientialists also maintain when they suggest educational role as fostering some people who are late-starter. The philosophers in Greek era also taught eudaimonia which integrates with intellectual capacity. I am not sure how Neoplatonism deals with this concept, the sprituality Dr.Vervaeke emphasizes can be eudaimoniac attitude for academic endeavor. If students can implement this to their cognition, it is why 4E cognitive science can make differences from existing pedagogical practice.
1:32:58 marx also has an inverted concept of species-being along the lines of schopenhaeur's pessimism. altough marx's idea of creative labor is perhaps the earliest notion of niche construction and perhaps the most underrated motivation for his emancipatory politics. All this is in his Economic Manuscripts
If skills are not true or false why make them cognitive? Why knowing? John’s multiple forms of knowing is MUCH BETTER the mainstream views. Dewey accomplishes more by pointing out “experience” is not just cognitive. In fact cognitive awareness is a fraction of the totality of human awareness. Perspectival and Participatory & Procedural “Knowing” are just different forms awareness all capable of BECOMING cognitive but not intrinsically and always so.
I appreciate all of this very much. But I can’t help note: Dewey accomplished all the same desired outcomes with much less machinery and more organic integration a hundred years ago. So sad we don’t take American naturalism seriously. Heidegger yes. Wittgenstein yes. Aristotle yes. Plotinus yes. Analytic yes. Continental yes. Dewey/James? Nah. Not worth pursuing. Let’s go about it much more obliquely, in complex language the average educated reader is highly unlikely to follow. But the subjective-objective, fact-value, analytic-synthetic, data-theory etc-etc-etc dichotomies have already been successfully challenged by Dewey 100 years ago by adopting a bio-anthropological, organism-environment approach.Doesn’t matter. Dewey was boring. Let’s add much more machinery…oh Lordy. I love Vervaeke but don’t understand why thinkers must always think they have to start from scratch.
@@sergiosatelite467 Might not be so new. Sebastian Morello argues, in "The World as God's Icon", that Thomas Aquinas already offered a synthesis of Aristotle and neoplatonism.
@@HantonSacu he has mentioned him. I think I sometimes overreact to how little appreciated Dewey is. But Vervaeke has certainly mentioned him approvingly.
Absolutely Best John Vervaeke so far. I'm already excited about what's next. Just lovin this to the core.
The multidimensionality of various forms of opponent processing are best when balance inhabits as much as possible.
The think self-org of it is to be understood at all is the meeting "point" of emergence and emanation - not just emergence.
25:15 It's like the termination is an air bubble necessarily popping on the surface
You might want to check out The Standard Theory of Psychology.
Dream team for dialogos ❤️
Truth is the perfect symmetry of relationship.
Meaning is more dynamic than truth. Truth is a sculpture, meaning is a song and dance.
oh quiet
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Given the premise that world is fundamentally knowable to every human being it doesn’t seem to be so in one’s experience. I guess John V.’s after Socrates project as practical side of his theory is precisely aimed at making this “knowability” quality of the world available for one, but I keep wondering can there be sort of easier ways to get there given general public has to live ordinary busy life where there isn’t much room or time for through practices that John himself follows. Bhakti yoga, maybe, is the way.
Relevance realization sounds like it relies heavily on the imagination of the individual. Is there anything relevant between the infinity of infinities between the numbers 1-2 and the numbers 2-3?
"We are liquid crystals playing quantum jazz."
Mae-Won Ho
4E cognition is to motivate people who lacked information and boosted into more advanced topics, it is expertie of scientific tradition--what experientialists also maintain when they suggest educational role as fostering some people who are late-starter. The philosophers in Greek era also taught eudaimonia which integrates with intellectual capacity. I am not sure how Neoplatonism deals with this concept, the sprituality Dr.Vervaeke emphasizes can be eudaimoniac attitude for academic endeavor. If students can implement this to their cognition, it is why 4E cognitive science can make differences from existing pedagogical practice.
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1:32:58 marx also has an inverted concept of species-being along the lines of schopenhaeur's pessimism. altough marx's idea of creative labor is perhaps the earliest notion of niche construction and perhaps the most underrated motivation for his emancipatory politics. All this is in his Economic Manuscripts
Vervaeke promotes 4E.... Whoa...
If skills are not true or false why make them cognitive? Why knowing? John’s multiple forms of knowing is MUCH BETTER the mainstream views. Dewey accomplishes more by pointing out “experience” is not just cognitive. In fact cognitive awareness is a fraction of the totality of human awareness. Perspectival and Participatory & Procedural “Knowing” are just different forms awareness all capable of BECOMING cognitive but not intrinsically and always so.
I appreciate all of this very much. But I can’t help note: Dewey accomplished all the same desired outcomes with much less machinery and more organic integration a hundred years ago. So sad we don’t take American naturalism seriously. Heidegger yes. Wittgenstein yes. Aristotle yes. Plotinus yes. Analytic yes. Continental yes. Dewey/James? Nah. Not worth pursuing. Let’s go about it much more obliquely, in complex language the average educated reader is highly unlikely to follow. But the subjective-objective, fact-value, analytic-synthetic, data-theory etc-etc-etc dichotomies have already been successfully challenged by Dewey 100 years ago by adopting a bio-anthropological, organism-environment approach.Doesn’t matter. Dewey was boring. Let’s add much more machinery…oh Lordy. I love Vervaeke but don’t understand why thinkers must always think they have to start from scratch.
Resorting to Aristotle and neoplatonism isn't exactly "starting from scratch".
@@bbllrd1917 certainly misspoke-misswrote. The synthesis is new though.
@@sergiosatelite467 Might not be so new. Sebastian Morello argues, in "The World as God's Icon", that Thomas Aquinas already offered a synthesis of Aristotle and neoplatonism.
It would be interesting to see what Vervaeke thinks of Dewey. I'm sure he has appreciation and also valid criticism about.
@@HantonSacu he has mentioned him. I think I sometimes overreact to how little appreciated Dewey is. But Vervaeke has certainly mentioned him approvingly.