True. I used my girlfriend as the florist for my wedding. I was not trying to get discounts for my wedding, I was paying her just like I would have done at any other flower shop. That money was going to be spent and I was elated that I could help her grow her business while she was a big part of one of the biggest days of my life. If you really support your friends business, the last thing I would ask for is a discount. I felt so good about that.
I think it is important to listen to your manager, of course! You are paying him/her for their professional opinion &&& suggestions BUT, listening & doing everything they'd like you to do, no. That's when people lose their voice when having to depend on another for everything. Do as much as you can for yourself with some side notes/ideas from your manager.
“ He wants me to be successful just as much as I want me to be successful “ but notice you didn’t say just as much as I want him to be.. now you see why the manager feels how she does 😂
@@ClassyGyal You could always be more successful shidd she even could of said "Cliff wants to see win just like I want to see him win" but she didn't it's just a little peep
@@madisonrembert2024 whew girl, this was 7 whole months ago, BC girl. I dnt even know what you're talking about or what they were arguing about or what I was talking about... 😂😂😂
A true friend wouldn't be trying to get shit for free. They'd support your business and pay the regular percent like everyone else. That's not business, that's leeching. She wants to sale her product there with no fee/percentage going to the business at all? Talking about 0.5%? GTFOH I'm with Mo on this one.
Yeah, you are trying to cash in on Cliff. Out of your mouth first. These friends are extremely disrespectful. I'm so glad Cliff has the manager that he has. She looks out for him first...unlike these friends.
@@SonyaNeedsSomeEnsure i know what kind of people they are but some people think if a person talk real that they can't be a snake and my point is a person can talk and say real things but be 2 faced and messy as fuck but i like Shekinah she is a funny person but i was just saying don't let that talking fool ya lol just saying with anybody in general.
littlepinkscooter lol jada said 0.5% not 0.5 sis not big difference lol i understood your logic but 0.5% and 50% are 2 different things for example 0.5%=0.005 where as 50%=0.5 which is where u got it mixed up lol 0.5% of a $100 is 50cents vs 50% of $100 is $50 😬😬😬 sorry she knew what she was saying lol
Ill never forget when she did therapy outside the club on the familt hustle. I cried laughed so hard but it was a VERY REAL idea. These folks need help out here.
Ooop jade tried to come for her but Monique is looking out for cliff. I like her. And Cliff is a great friend! Looking out for his friends. Nice to see .
Betting On Becca yeah but I understand cliff and jade having a friendship type of agreement at first and just trynna get her business started, they gotta learn to keep em both separated though
Yeass... his team has a lot of to learn when it comes to being a professional. There's no way u should allow your friends to speak with your business manager like that. .. Smh
@@mikexoxxxo ..... 😭😭😭😭 YOUR NAME GOES INTO PEOPLES COMMENTS AND MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THE 1ST WORD THEY SAY IS IHATEBLACKBITCHES BEFORE THEY COMMENT. I AINT NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD 😭😭😭😭 FR FR
BET NETWORK NEEDS TO CHANGE THE TITLE BECAUSE SHEKENAH and CLIFF DID NOT GET INTO A "HEATED ARGUMENT." There was NOTHING "HEATED" about their open discussion. Wow, BET needs to check that. Other than that, Much respect towards Cliff.
She definitely is not!! Their friendship goes deep!! I was one of their teachers at their middle school... They have always been close and always supported each other... they are going to always have each other's backs... i'm sure ya'll have friends that are more like family that you would go above and beyond for.... they are no different!! Their love for each other runs deep... the true definition of loyalty... learn something from them...ijs ... I'm proud of both of them!
GeminiJR3 Thank you for that. I dont feel as though she is a leech at all. They seem to have a really good friendship and they want tne best for eachother. Friends are supposed to look out for eachother. If you watch Jades channel you can see that she is really down to earth and she really cares about Cliff.
I’m a transgender woman but I respect Cliff not only from a business perspective but also as his identification. I think any LGBTQ+ people should support one another cuz we have enough haters so we can’t have it in our own community too. 💯
@@robertmiles1132 but hasn’t any undermined and misunderstood person had to create their own reality while trying to make their fantasy a reality? Example: when black people had no rights and were enslaved on plantations. Didn’t they dream of freedom and create a reality in their own heads to project out onto the world in hopes it would come true? Martin Luther kings, “I had a dream” speech, for example.
Ok so I'm sorry but using racism as a debate will never work mainly due to the fact it wasn't at all like that for black people it wasn't a dream it white people who believed what plantation owners were doing was ethical But to hit the ball in your court Please explain how someone Telling the truth is hating on you According to science the same subject that gave your community as you would say liberation since we are going with the racism oppression also says you can't biologically change your sex I'm not your enemy in this at all I just believe using a people's pain and anguish to make your point it's rather disrespectful Also to use martin Luther king Jr I have a dream speech was about inclusion of all which why we have this conversation So to misrepresent it also is disrespectful As the man I am Be you No bad feelings at all it's just I get where you were attempting to go but they are two total different ends of the spectrum There is no science that proves because of my skin color I'm not entitled to rights as a human being P.S for a white male or female Is so insulting to the Black community you will never get us on your side by misrepresentation of what our community went through Also why does you living in your truth mean that the world must now have to change what gave identity to others I don't feel your truth have obliterate my truth I really don't mean any harm Or to offend if I offended you I sincerely apologize for I don't want seclusion more of inclusion
@@robertmiles1132 why does that bother you though? Its their reality at the end of the day, not yours. Its seems like a waste of energy to worry about how other people shape their own reality.
@@Whowantlasagna when did I say it bothered me I never did Also if inclusion is the goal we should be having the conversations that is the only way to get a inclusive understanding which is totally different from using underhanded debate tactics.well I don't personally know you but Here is a small but very important lesson that needs to be learned by alot Ask a question without implementing your preconceived judgments Also seek understanding never justification from others to be who you are Also there is a total difference between you are a transsexual and I'm a man which this phrasing I have no issue with. A transsexual is acknowledged in this phrasing and I'm not having to change or adhere to the transsexual way of living I'm just a male I'm not cis I'm not any other names besides a male like I have always been Now the second statement is the opposite A transsexual is a transsexual But now the average male who is not into but not insulting or demeaning your lifestyle Is now converted to a cis male In this statement the issue arises Why do I as a male have to refered to as a different name to be more inclusive to me That doesn't seem like inclusion but domination By emotional manipulation For example when @latinaKamilla Used the Black oppression to make an argument that transsexuals are being oppressed in the same way Which is not true there is nothing in the constitution the permits transsexuals to not be considered as a person Skin color vs a voluntary change Two total different things I didn't choose from a picture lineup to be black I did not go into surgery white and came out black it doesn't work like that Being Bullied talked about and judged. fairly/unfairly because of what you look like is wrong. But being beaten raped laws made against your very existence because of your skin color being sold like property whipped like cattle Feed to dogs Discriminated against put in chains Has a transsexual been beaten to death because he thought a white woman was beautiful we were burned because our skin was darker Wrongly might I add But transsexuals have been beaten due to attempting to change religions schools communities Social language structure They are even going after bathrooms What I'm saying is this you can exist but the entire world does not have to change because of the existence of your feelings Vs you are a transsexual and I am a cis male
They're opportunist that will drag him down. They using his name and clout for thier own branding. They're fake working for him and sabotaging every job he gives them.
I don't think they're leeches, each one help one. He's helping his friends in establishing her business, nothing wrong with that. That's our problem, we always want to keep everything to ourselves. When we suppose to be helping each other
@@RealSyn a real friend isnt going to expect a handout or for you to just do shit for free cause youre their friend. Shes a fake ass bitch using his name for her personal gain. Theirs a difference between helping someone and letting someone use you.
Shaded By Jade you that pressed for attention you reading through comments and responding to comments made off of what WE see as the viewers. Idgaf what was asked I spoke on what I saw. Pipe down.
Blue Sparkle 💯 ...that’s how a whole bunch of black women are here in the south. I’m from the west coast and we stick together but here that’s a whole ‘nother story so sad to witness
EXACTLY! This was just another "Click Bait" for us. Every view from us HELPS THEM! Even when they LIE on their captions to bait us in.🙄🤬No Heated Argument AT ALL! And none of us can get this wasted time BACK.
I want the entire LGBTQ community to know that I am grateful to learn about your thought processes. For instance, when Cliff says he is not trying to be a girl, but he just like to wear weaves, do make up & wear nails (among another things)...I been confused and judgmental, but this clarifies things. I claim that all who misunderstand, can finally understand & all who dont want to accept these beautiful people, realize that we need to be much more open minded & free to express ourselves however we choose to! This snippet changed my entire mindset about gender aesthetics! I accept our community in a whole new way now & I realize I can dress how I want to as well, without it making me to be anything out of the ordinary! I know that was a lot....but basically. THANK YOU! I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMUNITY!😘
his friend, jade, is not business savvy. if she was, she would be supplying product to monique and cliff in exchange for them using it on his clients. also, she would rent a booth at a discounted rate from cliff and do makeup in the salon as well (if she's even a licensed mua). lastly, just up the cost of your products in the store so that it covers the cut that Cliff wants. DUH!ppl be so greedy and lazy that they shoot themselves in the damn foot.
It’s not about being business savvy, she’s just straight up lazy. She wants to get up there with her friend off of his work without having to do anything herself
That wasn't No heated argument😂 I got a sister/ brother vibe through the whole clip except the manager Monique..... She too tight You can still be assertive and not rude
Ummm idk who taught y’all math but idk if y’all realize that 20% = .2 x total profit and 0.5% (which is half of 1%) would be significantly less at .005 x total profit 🤦🏾♀️. Stay in school kids.
The only thing that made me cringe was when Cliff said Tammy had good hair!?! As a hairstylist one should know better! You are working with predominantly African American women who take offense to comments like those because all hair is good if it’s taken care. Also, being one of those women who ppl label as having “good hair” we get tired of hearing that and especially when ppl treat us differently like it’s our fault the way our hair is?! Ppl always associate my “good hair” as being the reason it is as long as it is and I’m like, “ no, sis it’s cuz I take care of it! Ppl never wanna hear what I have to say b/c they assume my hair is perfect and it’s so annoying! Sorry, didn’t mean to go on a rant-page...lol!
Aaliyah Winning2.0 I dnt kn exactly what you’re asking in particular but I’ll do my best to sum it up. I’m natural but I’m nt anti relaxer but what I do is wash, condition and deep condition once a week, wear low manipulation styles like wash in gos...and trim every three to 6 months. Moisture is essential, use heat minimally. I let my hair air dry and I only flat iron 2-3 times a year.
TwelveGates WHAT A QUESTION!!!! NOW LET'S SEE HANDS UP WHO WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THIS ? IS THIS THE 12 GATES OF HEAVEN? I LOVE THE SOUND OF THAT, CHRIST'S RESIDENT.
Monique and some other chick use to "work with/manage" T.O. Then she bounced after T.O found out he was broke because he was being ripped off by his best friend/accountant. But for years Monique claimed T.O was like a brother to her then she stopped coming around and returning his calls outta the blue once the money was gone 💸💱💸💱 - no loyalty
Monique and her friend/Terrels other manager allegedly stole Terrell Owens Money and was a big part of him going broke!! Y'all pls do your homework on Ms. Monique!! Hopefully shes changed cause she should of did jail time...allegedly 😬
The manager made some valid points though. From what it seems like, jade is TELLING cliff what she wants to do instead of asking.
Kyng Mocha , yeah like she is the damn boss.
Yeah she has cliff back. That best friend bullshyt in the way. That's that man business.
“Who wants to be a girl”
*Swings head back*” you do
Lmfaoo
Vickelle Boggs ha😐 you need a dr
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Monique is so very right about Jade. Real business people make their way, pay their dues.
They gassed it with the title a little too much, the "argument" wasn't even that heated. 😂😂
Right
I know right, i was ready to go in on Shekinah based off the thumbnail alone
Exactly
They always do.
Clickbait
Your real friends will gladly pay for space. That’s called keeping money in the family. Period.
Right......
True. I used my girlfriend as the florist for my wedding. I was not trying to get discounts for my wedding, I was paying her just like I would have done at any other flower shop. That money was going to be spent and I was elated that I could help her grow her business while she was a big part of one of the biggest days of my life. If you really support your friends business, the last thing I would ask for is a discount. I felt so good about that.
#Fact✋
Msboochie2 As a business owner, I cannot imagine not giving my best friends a discount.
Facts
His bestfriend seems a bit ENTITLED... just saying😒
I think cliff should always listen to his manager . That girl knows what she is doing
Do you no cliff yes or no
Marcelle Lyons 😲🍵
Marcelle Lyons firs of all... its KNOW *
I think it is important to listen to your manager, of course! You are paying him/her for their professional opinion &&& suggestions BUT, listening & doing everything they'd like you to do, no. That's when people lose their voice when having to depend on another for everything. Do as much as you can for yourself with some side notes/ideas from your manager.
@@cruisycai right!!
Why didn’t they introduce shekinah as a celebrity stylist ? She’s a celebrity stylist !
Iesha Brown exactly!!!
We never hear that wonder is because she just did Tiny hair 💇 or Tamar.ion know shit 🆘
“She has 3 million followers on Instagram” like that’s something ! Lol.
Nah she trying to cash in on cliff if you down for him then pay up I agree with Monique
I dont understand where Shekinah and Cliff get into a heated argument is it just me or someone wants views
Somebody wanted views cause I didnt see it
Click bait
They almost came to blows 👊👊 what are you talking about? I was afraid the whole time. 😂
Right
Right i was waitin to see
How was their conversation heated 🤔?Stop putting black people against each other.
Niya H what she said
Thank you 👏🏽
“ He wants me to be successful just as much as I want me to be successful “ but notice you didn’t say just as much as I want him to be.. now you see why the manager feels how she does 😂
Because he already is successful.
@@ClassyGyal You could always be more successful shidd she even could of said "Cliff wants to see win just like I want to see him win" but she didn't it's just a little peep
@@madisonrembert2024 whew girl, this was 7 whole months ago, BC girl.
I dnt even know what you're talking about or what they were arguing about or what I was talking about... 😂😂😂
I peeped that too. I might be wrong but Jade is all about self to me.
I NEVER SEEN THIS AT ALL...I RARELY WATCH BET NOW THO
I met Shekinah before. Yo she really acts like this in person. Very funny but always keeps it 💯
And she’s kind!
A true friend wouldn't be trying to get shit for free. They'd support your business and pay the regular percent like everyone else. That's not business, that's leeching. She wants to sale her product there with no fee/percentage going to the business at all? Talking about 0.5%? GTFOH I'm with Mo on this one.
Noir King true
Noir King thank you. Sad that Cliff doesnt peep her self centered ways.
She would be putting it outside the shop
Right!!! Supporting your friends business means paying like everyone else. I hate a “let me get it for free” ass friend
Exactly. If she "wanted" you in her shop, she would just BUY your product and resell in her shop. Like sis, he's really doing you a FAVOR!
I love shekinah 😩😂😂😂 "you wanna be a girl." "Yes you do!" *turns head over to finish getting hair done!
😂😂
That friend was rude and shouldn't have been given that space for free. She already being unprofessional!
Pay
Pay
Pppppppppppay!
Shekinah’s little confessional had me dying 😭😭 “if you want to be a rapper be a rapper, if you want to sell ass sell ass”
ikr shid just be you 🤣🤣🤣
That was some demonic advice she gave
That’s why the saying goes “Never do business with friends or family “ At the end of the day he’s doing her a favor smh
Yeah, you are trying to cash in on Cliff. Out of your mouth first.
These friends are extremely disrespectful.
I'm so glad Cliff has the manager that he has. She looks out for him first...unlike these friends.
Right! A real friend would pay his/her way without being forced to do so. I'm glad he had that manager as well. I bet you she's going to get that 20%.
Also a sense of entitlement.
They want the fame for free off his back.
Cliffs just gonna keep being dumb tho and letting her use him...its kinda hard to watch
@@bepos1luvok989 ...Ooo, yes, definitely a sense of entitlement.
A friend would offer to pay! We building brands here sis, not selling lemonade on the corner!🙄
Exactly!
@@queensweet2ea663 Done!
Yesssssss
Right and jade was being rude at the end of the day it’s business and you can’t mix business with friendships and pleasure
Exactly!
I like how shekanah can do her own hair beacause she is also a stylist, but she choices to support someone els with the same dream.
Jade seems like a opportunist 🤷🏽♀️
R Caesar man it don’t even seems like she’s really trying to be his friend it seems like she’s just trying to get herself out on through him
R Caesar she is lol 😂
Lies, they’ve been friends since they were kids
R Caesar she is!!! The first thing she said was oh her things can go on the shelves. Ugh
@@TiaLoveex3 So was Kylie jenner and her so called Bff.
i love shekinah she so real !!
Don't get it twisted some people say real things but fake as hell ijs
@@SonyaNeedsSomeEnsure i know what kind of people they are but some people think if a person talk real that they can't be a snake and my point is a person can talk and say real things but be 2 faced and messy as fuck but i like Shekinah she is a funny person but i was just saying don't let that talking fool ya lol just saying with anybody in general.
Real Broke
Yesss!!! Didn't sugar coat nothing with him. Be who you are I love her!
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I think Jade is ABSOLUTELY taking advantage like so many "freinds" do when a friend gets put on.
The comment I was looking for! Most definitely
Cliff friends gon be the end of him 💯💯
He should just cold turkey they ass in a nice way🤣 jus tell them ur movin on witout them, str8 up🤷🏽♀️
Miss Basma no fr
They are freeloaders if you ask me. He can do better.
Yup he will see the light one day
Not with mo in his corner!
Jade is the prime example of people feeling entitled to your success. Im going to make sure my people win when i do. But sis is doing a bit too much!
Devyn Davis seriously
She is a disrespectful opportunist
Monique asked for 20% then this goofy said 0.5 (50%) percent.... 😔 Bye Jade.
littlepinkscooter lol jada said 0.5% not 0.5 sis not big difference lol i understood your logic but 0.5% and 50% are 2 different things for example 0.5%=0.005 where as 50%=0.5 which is where u got it mixed up lol 0.5% of a $100 is 50cents vs 50% of $100 is $50 😬😬😬 sorry she knew what she was saying lol
@@jaytaylormade8758 You were very nice and classy the way you broke it down.
littlepinkscooter right I was confused 😂😂😂
How did you get 0.5% and 50% confused lol.
She said 25%
I cant lie....shekianah (howeva it's spelled) energy is ENTERTAINING
Yes, her energy is, but her ignorance and mouth at times aren't.
Ill never forget when she did therapy outside the club on the familt hustle. I cried laughed so hard but it was a VERY REAL idea. These folks need help out here.
She should be on the Real. Shade yes because the hosts are boring.
I love her
And she was right.
@@debrajames6316 fr
Ooop jade tried to come for her but Monique is looking out for cliff. I like her.
And Cliff is a great friend! Looking out for his friends. Nice to see .
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Betting On Becca yeah but I understand cliff and jade having a friendship type of agreement at first and just trynna get her business started, they gotta learn to keep em both separated though
@@KingMonsieur
Especially if its not a partnership.
King Monsieur very true because it can really mess up cliff in the end but it seems like Monique is doing a great job helping him keep things in line.
its buisness never personal
I’m sorry he can’t rap
lol
yeah he’s ok
😂
Fredericka Rowland SORRY BUT THEY SHOULD KEEP WITH THE
HAIR ART, 'CAUSE WITH RAP , THEY'D ONLY GET 15 MIN. OF
FAME.JAY Z GOT THAT SEWED UP.
He definitely can't rap and that's just the truth 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
His friends need to be more respectful to Monique, she knows what she's doing 😉 These episodes need to be longer too...LoL
Right! Didn't she work with Terrell Owens?
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Ms. Fency Gray
Yes!
Nina Testman amen to that 🙌🏾
Jade is a bitch trying to get over. And Cliff needs to stop letting her get over on him cuz that's what's she's doing. Jade ain't shit! Period
When will cliff realize jade is so toxic.
Yeass... his team has a lot of to learn when it comes to being a professional. There's no way u should allow your friends to speak with your business manager like that. .. Smh
Yep! I know and dealt with her type...she can’t help but be in her own way for the path of success and domino effect with those around her
Toxic as shit! Smh...
I wonder if that is why they fell out 🤔
The caption is clickbait . I came not for the argument but to get people’s views on lgbt . Y’all lied 😹
Chile me too 😂🤦🏽♀️
Joey Brown you clearly can’t read
I really wish this was 30 min show I really like what he’s doing I’m here for both!
ihateblackbitches I was just about to say that & yes I'm a black woman.... this entire show is disappointing ....
go away thank you for having sense ✊🏾
@@areyounotentertained2482 What don't you like about it?
@@areyounotentertained2482 .....The way yaws RUclips names running into yaws comment to each other got me crying 😭😭😭😭
@@mikexoxxxo ..... 😭😭😭😭 YOUR NAME GOES INTO PEOPLES COMMENTS AND MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THE 1ST WORD THEY SAY IS IHATEBLACKBITCHES BEFORE THEY COMMENT. I AINT NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD 😭😭😭😭 FR FR
Cliff has potential ... he just needs to get his team right... these chicks are loose...
Sidenote: shakinah would get this D thou..
😂😂😂
Same
I can too..
🤣🤣🤣
Okarrrrrrrr!!!!!
I got baited 🤦🏾♀️ where was the argument
💯
🙋♀️🙅♀️🤦♀️💃🕺...ok☘️
Thx for letting me know. So I can stop while I've only wasting 1 min of my life on this BS
Lol me too
😂
BET NETWORK NEEDS TO CHANGE THE TITLE BECAUSE SHEKENAH and CLIFF DID NOT GET INTO A "HEATED ARGUMENT." There was NOTHING "HEATED" about their open discussion. Wow, BET needs to check that. Other than that, Much respect towards Cliff.
They did the same thing last week with
It ain't that serious lol
Thought the same thing lol
It's called "click bait". Something to get your attention enough for you to click on that thumbnail whether it's a true or false statement/title.
Clickbait that's all
I think I saw Monique on the T.O. Show years ago. She was his manager, personal assistant, PR or something like that. Her and another girl.
Girl didn't she steal from T.O?
Butterfly Blue Girl for real? Details please. My nosy ass needs to know lol
Me too ..i keep asking myself where did i see her and reality tv was always my thing. ??
@@icucreeppeekin2559 Girl, I forgot about that! I remember him saying a friend stole from him, but I don't remember him saying who. So it was her?!
@@Estrellitawilliams Lol. Right. 🤣
He looks like Raz B from B2K.
😆 f .r
😂😂😂
Shole deaux
Back in the day, people were saying he was dressing in drag...😭😭
😭😭😭😭
Jade is def a opportunist. She could’ve at least offered 10%
She actually said 0.5 percent which is more actually 1/2.
@@DaQueen43 no she meant .05%
P Chantel I know what she meant but good thing she didn’t write out 0.5 % and sign on it 😂
.5% is not 1/2 50.% is. Or as a decimal .005 is way less than .50
He needs to fire his makeup artist bc they're steady putting on the wrong foundation shade on him 🤦🏽♀️
Sha Sha she not he
Angel Johnson he you dummy
chaii you the dummy bitch and ya mama
Lmao
@@angeljohnson6665 he
Jade needs to sit back see that’s why you don’t mix friends and business, they don’t work!!!
I agree with Monique, its business honey, nothing personal. 20% or get the boot! I like this show. Positive content 😊 #newfan
Cliff's best friend is a USER
ajones21606 literally
I agree!!!!
She definitely is not!! Their friendship goes deep!! I was one of their teachers at their middle school... They have always been close and always supported each other... they are going to always have each other's backs... i'm sure ya'll have friends that are more like family that you would go above and beyond for.... they are no different!! Their love for each other runs deep... the true definition of loyalty... learn something from them...ijs ... I'm proud of both of them!
GeminiJR3 Thank you for that. I dont feel as though she is a leech at all. They seem to have a really good friendship and they want tne best for eachother. Friends are supposed to look out for eachother. If you watch Jades channel you can see that she is really down to earth and she really cares about Cliff.
No just an opportunistic.
I’m a transgender woman but I respect Cliff not only from a business perspective but also as his identification. I think any LGBTQ+ people should support one another cuz we have enough haters so we can’t have it in our own community too. 💯
Honestly I don't hate transsexuals I just believe you manipulate reality for your own happiness
@@robertmiles1132 but hasn’t any undermined and misunderstood person had to create their own reality while trying to make their fantasy a reality? Example: when black people had no rights and were enslaved on plantations. Didn’t they dream of freedom and create a reality in their own heads to project out onto the world in hopes it would come true? Martin Luther kings, “I had a dream” speech, for example.
Ok so I'm sorry but using racism as a debate will never work mainly due to the fact it wasn't at all like that for black people it wasn't a dream it white people who believed what plantation owners were doing was ethical
But to hit the ball in your court
Please explain how someone
Telling the truth is hating on you
According to science the same subject that gave your community as you would say liberation since we are going with the racism oppression also says you can't biologically change your sex
I'm not your enemy in this at all I just believe using a people's pain and anguish to make your point it's rather disrespectful
Also to use martin Luther king Jr
I have a dream speech was about inclusion of all which why we have this conversation So to misrepresent it also is disrespectful
As the man I am Be you
No bad feelings at all it's just
I get where you were attempting to go but they are two total different ends of the spectrum
There is no science that proves because of my skin color I'm not entitled to rights as a human being
P.S for a white male or female
Is so insulting to the Black community you will never get us on your side by misrepresentation of what our community went through
Also why does you living in your truth mean that the world must now have to change what gave identity to others I don't feel your truth have obliterate my truth
I really don't mean any harm
Or to offend if I offended you I sincerely apologize for I don't want seclusion more of inclusion
@@robertmiles1132 why does that bother you though? Its their reality at the end of the day, not yours. Its seems like a waste of energy to worry about how other people shape their own reality.
@@Whowantlasagna when did I say it bothered me I never did
Also if inclusion is the goal we should be having the conversations that is the only way to get a inclusive understanding which is totally different from using underhanded debate tactics.well I don't personally know you but Here is a small but very important lesson that needs to be learned by alot Ask a question without implementing your preconceived judgments
Also seek understanding never justification from others to be who you are Also there is a total difference between you are a transsexual and I'm a man which this phrasing I have no issue with.
A transsexual is acknowledged in this phrasing and I'm not having to change or adhere to the transsexual way of living I'm just a male I'm not cis I'm not any other names besides a male like I have always been
Now the second statement is the opposite
A transsexual is a transsexual
But now the average male who is not into but not insulting or demeaning your lifestyle
Is now converted to a cis male
In this statement the issue arises
Why do I as a male have to refered to as a different name to be more inclusive to me That doesn't seem like inclusion but domination
By emotional manipulation
For example when @latinaKamilla
Used the Black oppression to make an argument that transsexuals are being oppressed in the same way
Which is not true there is nothing in the constitution the permits transsexuals to not be considered as a person
Skin color vs a voluntary change
Two total different things
I didn't choose from a picture lineup to be black
I did not go into surgery white and came out black it doesn't work like that
Being Bullied talked about and judged. fairly/unfairly because of what you look like is wrong. But being beaten raped laws made against your very existence because of your skin color being sold like property whipped like cattle
Feed to dogs
Discriminated against put in chains
Has a transsexual been beaten to death because he thought a white woman was beautiful we were burned because our skin was darker
Wrongly might I add
But transsexuals have been beaten due to attempting to change religions schools communities
Social language structure
They are even going after bathrooms
What I'm saying is this you can exist but the entire world does not have to change because of the existence of your feelings
Vs you are a transsexual and I am a cis male
Cliff needs to get these leeches he calls friends out of his life!!!!
They're opportunist that will drag him down. They using his name and clout for thier own branding. They're fake working for him and sabotaging every job he gives them.
I second that ✋
I don't think they're leeches, each one help one. He's helping his friends in establishing her business, nothing wrong with that. That's our problem, we always want to keep everything to ourselves. When we suppose to be helping each other
@@RealSyn a real friend isnt going to expect a handout or for you to just do shit for free cause youre their friend. Shes a fake ass bitch using his name for her personal gain. Theirs a difference between helping someone and letting someone use you.
Nothing wrong with helping your friends when you get on
She said Cliff wants her to be successful just as much as she wants to be successful, not as much as I want him too... girl bye. Lmao
Of course I want my friend to win you don’t know what question was asked my the producer !!! Soooooooo stfu
Shaded By Jade you that pressed for attention you reading through comments and responding to comments made off of what WE see as the viewers. Idgaf what was asked I spoke on what I saw. Pipe down.
@@ShadedByJade you out here looking like Megamind! Btw it not our fault you end up looking like a user on national tv yo!!
Shaded By Jade they mad, you don’t look like a user! You agreed to a contract they just want your/ya’ll spot!
I was gonna bring this up, something ain’t right with this.
Cliff: “who wanna be a girl”
Shekinah: “yew dew…”
Cliff: “no the f*ck I doannnttt”
Shekinah:*whispers* “yesss the fuhhh you dew”
😭😂
Screaminnnn
Why you don’t wanna do curls? 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Crazy ass
I wanted the answer for real!
“You got good hair so it don’t even look bad” 🙄🙄🙄🙄I can’t stand that good hair bad hair stuff
kim parde I totally agree we need to stop that BS all hair is good hair.
kim parde ...😢 OMG!!!! MARRIAGE ME! ⚘
A Johnson ...that's right! As long as you got some and it ain't on fire, ya got gold!
When did they say that?
yall gotta shutup, good hair means healthy hair. yall be so sensitive to everything
She is so right. He needs to stop. You are who you are
Shekinah’s energy 😍😍
that dang , shekinah i just love her sm
Jade seems like a user. She should pay something even if Cliff is her best friend.
I agree
I'm
with that damn pinched nose
I agree
Can’t get pass the skin bleached smh 🤦🏾♀️
Latonya Dobbins what skin bleaching?
Damn shekinah got some long ass pretty hair😩
It's a sew in leave out..but it came out great
It's a blend in weave
Most of that is her hair. She might have a lil weave in the middle.
y'all making me cry n wake my baby i thought it was real bit it is lol
Christina coles nah that’s her real hair you can tell
Jade so rude. Baby girl he’s doing you a favor🙄
SupremeDreamss , yes I am like where they do that at.
The “ion wanna be a girl” while looking like one is wild
I don’t like his friends they don’t support him like he do them period and they rude asf 💯
Blue Sparkle 💯 ...that’s how a whole bunch of black women are here in the south. I’m from the west coast and we stick together but here that’s a whole ‘nother story so sad to witness
The manager is ABSOLUTELY ON POINT about the bestie mixing business 2gether... Cliff betta ask Kylie how that mixing friends with business went!! Js.
Asia Monae 💯
Asia Monae ugh what mixing best friend business with Kylie
Where was the heated argument ?
And why did he say he dont wanna be a girl.... he just wants to wear wigs and be pretty....doesnt diddy do that as a man....lol
Exactly! That wasn't no heated argument...that was a discussion/trade of opinions! Period! 😀
EXACTLY! This was just another "Click Bait" for us. Every view from us HELPS THEM! Even when they LIE on their captions to bait us in.🙄🤬No Heated Argument AT ALL! And none of us can get this wasted time BACK.
BigGirl Barnes lol😭🤣😂
I’m loving Mo! She’s looking out for her client!
That dang Shekinah! I love her.
I want the entire LGBTQ community to know that I am grateful to learn about your thought processes. For instance, when Cliff says he is not trying to be a girl, but he just like to wear weaves, do make up & wear nails (among another things)...I been confused and judgmental, but this clarifies things. I claim that all who misunderstand, can finally understand & all who dont want to accept these beautiful people, realize that we need to be much more open minded & free to express ourselves however we choose to! This snippet changed my entire mindset about gender aesthetics! I accept our community in a whole new way now & I realize I can dress how I want to as well, without it making me to be anything out of the ordinary! I know that was a lot....but basically. THANK YOU! I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMUNITY!😘
Am i the only person that thinks he looks simillar to Faith Evans ?!
He shhooowww do
😂😂😭
GracefullyRestored JourneyToABetterMe yea u being delusional
I peeped it too.
Hahahahaha!
his friend, jade, is not business savvy. if she was, she would be supplying product to monique and cliff in exchange for them using it on his clients. also, she would rent a booth at a discounted rate from cliff and do makeup in the salon as well (if she's even a licensed mua). lastly, just up the cost of your products in the store so that it covers the cut that Cliff wants. DUH!ppl be so greedy and lazy that they shoot themselves in the damn foot.
It’s not about being business savvy, she’s just straight up lazy. She wants to get up there with her friend off of his work without having to do anything herself
She’s lazy and doesn’t want to work.
Girl these children want fame. They dont wanna be legendary at their craft 🙄😏 them, and so many others...including monique.
That wasn't No heated argument😂 I got a sister/ brother vibe through the whole clip except the manager Monique..... She too tight
You can still be assertive and not rude
MONIQUE WAS TERRELL OWENS MANAGER.I REMEMBER HER FROM HIS SHOW!!!
I thought she looked familiar
Thank you so much! I knew l knew the face!
I couldnt remember where I knew her face from, but i knew I've seen her before.
UW LADIES❤
I was tryna figure out where I knew her from lol
Did they ask for 20% and she said they can get 0.5?......She clearly doesn't know that 0.5 IS 50%🙄.
😂😂😂
Exactly. Monique should definitely let her put that in the contract.
She just want something for nothing .
😂😂
Ummm idk who taught y’all math but idk if y’all realize that 20% = .2 x total profit and 0.5% (which is half of 1%) would be significantly less at .005 x total profit 🤦🏾♀️. Stay in school kids.
You both speak your truth, that's why y'all rock good with each other. Y'all care about each other dearly.
Jade was rude af idc
Are you a bottom or are you a top?!! “I’m a bottom”, then you a girl 😂😂😂😂😂 Shekinah is whoooollee messs LMBOO 😂😂😂 i love them 😂❤️❤️💗💗
Bitch I died
What does a bottom or a top mean
@@bestclips2616 taking it in the but is bottom, give the d is top
@@bestclips2616 it means he’s receiving. That’s the only clean way I can explain it.
His statement was confusing to ME but as long as he knows who he is I suppose that's all that really matters...NEXT!
The only thing that made me cringe was when Cliff said Tammy had good hair!?! As a hairstylist one should know better! You are working with predominantly African American women who take offense to comments like those because all hair is good if it’s taken care. Also, being one of those women who ppl label as having “good hair” we get tired of hearing that and especially when ppl treat us differently like it’s our fault the way our hair is?! Ppl always associate my “good hair” as being the reason it is as long as it is and I’m like, “ no, sis it’s cuz I take care of it! Ppl never wanna hear what I have to say b/c they assume my hair is perfect and it’s so annoying! Sorry, didn’t mean to go on a rant-page...lol!
What do you do to your hair???
Aaliyah Winning2.0 I dnt kn exactly what you’re asking in particular but I’ll do my best to sum it up. I’m natural but I’m nt anti relaxer but what I do is wash, condition and deep condition once a week, wear low manipulation styles like wash in gos...and trim every three to 6 months. Moisture is essential, use heat minimally. I let my hair air dry and I only flat iron 2-3 times a year.
@@naturallyflawed5472 Okay thank you!!!
It made me cringe as well. 😳😳
Aaliyah Winning2.0 np, you’re welcome!
6:58 his best friend slash living off her best friends fame is way to disrespectful
Cherry Berry wowwww right smh
If we best friends what your is mine and vice versa..we carry each other without question each party giving equally
Right bitch this ain’t Love & Hip Hop
bluegirl451 😂😂
Well he allows it.
Just be you. Just because he gay, wears make up and wigs, doesn't mean he wants to be a girl or woman. People need to be educated.
This title is click bait asf
@@gpat4523 To people who aren't knowledgable about the lifestyle or don't know may be confused. But he was able to explain himself.
His so called friends needs to go!
She just said “cliff wants me to be success just as much as I want to” that don’t sound like a friend
Stop playing Monique like she hasn't had a job before this. Monique just needs to find another person to manage without the petty ass friend drama.
Shekinah is so supportive
Ok why the manager look like that chic from "Good Times" who robbed the Evans family? Lol.
😂
No, that's so wrong. But she is a friend/manager of Terrell Owens and the show he had, T.O.
TwelveGates WHAT A QUESTION!!!! NOW LET'S SEE
HANDS UP WHO WOULD LIKE TO
ANSWER THIS ?
IS THIS THE 12 GATES OF HEAVEN? I LOVE THE SOUND OF THAT, CHRIST'S RESIDENT.
Jade seems like a user...
Shes riding his coat tail smh
Agree
Girl jade is a user and only cares about her self
Labria Heller absolutely
Oh My God! I feel like becky with the good hair 😂😂😂😂😂 ......... That part totally had me cracking up 🤣
She's hilarious😂
She is trying to capitalize off of Cliff's success. Get a new friend
damn shenika hair long i didnt even know it
Right that's what i said!
@@atouchofyaz4876 really but what about when she washed her hair
Our Blended Family Life Living Our Best Life it’s a sew in she washes them
@@chocolategoddess4056 ooh lol 🤦🏿♀️
@@atouchofyaz4876 🤣thanks because i was confused it look so good
Monique and some other chick use to "work with/manage" T.O. Then she bounced after T.O found out he was broke because he was being ripped off by his best friend/accountant. But for years Monique claimed T.O was like a brother to her then she stopped coming around and returning his calls outta the blue once the money was gone 💸💱💸💱
- no loyalty
I remember that reality show.
This RUclips show is to short! Where is the show on TV? I love this show.... I need more than that! At least make it a half hour 🤦🏽♀️
jade how your best friend a professional hairstylist and you still looking like a lego... box head 👀
You talking about the way her wig fitting?! I was thinking the same thing!!
😂😂😂😂
Cause I bet she don't wanna pay for his services. She probably only let him do her hair when it's free. She's a low-key jealous opportunist.
With friends like his I only see. The friendship working only one way. He is the friend and they are the freeloaders.
Lmaoooo 😂 LEGO box head !!
No Judgement But its Literally Confusion
I love Shekinah! She’s so much fun and real.
He reminds me of Faith Evans.
Where at
Face
Vikeysha Murray lmfao shadeee she said where at 😂😩
Right i said thing. Hell thought it was her
Damn....😩
"Mine don't move either, it's fake." That's gonna be me in a few 🥴
Say what you want about Shekanah but she 100% real with it😂 she always speak her mind
Monique has Cliff best interest!
Right
Monique and her friend/Terrels other manager allegedly stole Terrell Owens Money and was a big part of him going broke!! Y'all pls do your homework on Ms. Monique!! Hopefully shes changed cause she should of did jail time...allegedly 😬
Is this TO old manager
I love how she follows her dreams and follows her heart.
Y’all remember Monique from Terrell Owens show
Sharell Fagbeyiro yesss I do
Yesss!! His former manager!!
Sharell Fagbeyiro I thought I remembered her from somewhere.
You just reminded me lol
THATS WHERE I REMEMBER SEEING HER! Couldn't remember exactly where 😃
Bobo bobrisky 💕 the resemblance gets me each time. So uncanny!
EL-Bee I thought I was the only one who noticed😂 Oshey Baddesttt
Osheyyyyyy lol. They really do look alike
Sis you still ain’t get over it 😂 dang every episode I’m hoping a comment from you saying that now 😭
@@Heevvyy hahaha it pops up in my feed and I have too so new eyes can see it lol. Eventually he would too. Maybe him and Bob will hook up hahaha
I mean. My hand is itching me to type under Bob ig page to look up his role model.. 🤣🤣🤣 The resemblance is uncanny
What makes that girl think she doesn’t have to pay? 🤯
Bryaa’s Bonnets her skin tone
5:27 'you my sistaaa' in other words, let's make up so you can finish my hair/ ain't nothin like a hairdo half done if the stylist get ticked off
Lmbo
😂😂
Lol yup