Stop Signs Suck and We Should Get Rid of Them
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Yes! You can remove stop signs and things actually get safer (especially for cyclists). So why do so many cities still use them?
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Het woord "Stop" op verkeersborden wordt door "Halt" vervangen.
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2:02 Can you spot the cyclist? She's right here, behind the elephant!
I know you're not supposed to laugh at your own jokes, but I laughed so hard at this several times as I was editing it.
When is our interview scheduled to go live on your channel?
It was a good joke
And the elephant was hidden by the A-pillar!
I cracked up man that was hilarious
@@NotJustBikes it really was a good joke. Got a wet chuckle from me
You know someone has assimilated into Dutch culture successfully when they roll their eyes and say “Ungh, Belgium” 🙄
It also helps that I lived in Brussels for two years. ;)
He was not with the Belgium remark though. It’s just chaos over here.
The stop sign on the traffic light is for when the traffic light doesn’t work.
RoadRage brussel used be great... as it was dutch speaking. But slowly The wallonians (French speakers) took over.
I would like to live in belgium since police dont steal your electric skateboard there unfortunately in the netherlands they do because of shitty laws electric one wheel is legal here because they could not imagine it being motorised when making the rules so according to the rules it cant be a vehicle the one wheel users still get stoped by police and theg steal them too although they do give it back after 3 months or longer which is not the case for electric skateboards they destroy it... very nice country indeed....
In Australia everyone stops at Stop signs. They are only used on blind intersections.
You shouldn't overuse warning signage. Using it where it doesn't need to be, means that it will be ignored when it is needed.
Yeah, coming from NZ where they're also rare and now living in Canada, I'm finding this out first hand. They're in so many places where Aus/NZ would use a Give Way sign that they just kind of blur together in Canada. It's also not helpful that the Canadians use 4 way stop signs where the rule is that whoever got to the intersection first has right of way. Madness.
Same here in Sweden. Stop signs are rare enough that almost everyone respects them. Yield signs are also respected and plentyful, which is good because the standard rule of "give way to the right" in unmarked intersections does not seem to have stuck very well from the driver's education in most people.
@@thunderball44 why not just use a roundabout than use whatever a 4 way stop intersection is.
I came here to say the same thing. Plus the Belgian stop on traffic lights is technically correct but they should take a lesson from the Australian version where it has 3 black spots overlaid on the stop sign to indicate if the traffic lights aren't working then you treat it like a stop sign.
@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj That only is a thing in NSW. No such thing exists in VIC.
I feel like the US and Canada use stop signs so much that people just lose their respect for them, and when stops signs are actually needed in dangerous intersections, people will still just yield. In Norway, we have very few stop signs, which means that when there is a stop sign, people respect it and stop
They're waaaay overused, and for this reason, most people (myself included) don't have a great deal of respect for them. I actually do a better stop for level crossings with lights and gates (habit - I'm a bus driver) than many stop signs. Easily 80% could be replaced with yield signs. Uncontrolled intersections wouldn't work in many places because Americans drivers aren't smart enough to handle that
Lmao out here in US people don’t even yield anymore. They just pop into traffic and expect everyone else not to crash.
This isn’t always the case - in the UK, stop signs are quite rare here too, and stop signs are usually only put in when they’re actually needed.
However, despite (or possibly in part due to) their rarity, a large minority of drivers don’t actually properly stop anyway. If you have an old intersection in the middle of the New Forest that causes cyclists to be in a driver’s blind spot on approach, and drivers don’t stop at the stop sign, you can begin to see the issue…
I never seen anything wrong with them. Except in shopping mall parking lots, it gets really chaotic that the stop signs are actually distracting and doesn’t help. Because people walking everywhere are like moving stop signs.
Yeah, in most US intersections the lower-priority road gets a stop sign BY DEFAULT. Thus, it is more reliably a priority indicator than a genuine need to stop.
Also, Oregon recently they passed a law allowing bicycles to yield at stop signs if the intersection is clear, but keep in mind this is as an exception to the default traffic rules.
Welcome to another episode of "wait this is a problem in other countries?"
LMAO I MEAN LITTERLY HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH LOL, LMAO, RAAP ME OP, IK GA BROKO
@@basguerain5900 Literally*
Dutch people correcting each other on English spelling is 100% charmingly Dutch
@@jsgang Well I did spend 16 years of my life living in an English speaking country(Ireland) so....I think I have more of a right to do so than most Dutchies. Especially as I also went to school there as a teenager ;)
hahahahahah ja maar echt!!!
As a Dutch guy im learning so much about my outside world that i take for granted.
Same here.
@@yvarmarkdeboer7118 maar echt he😂😂😂
Ja maar echt 😂 ben een paar keer in de US geweest en dat voelt zo onveilig daar
Daarom ben ik geabonneerd
Inderdaad, Het is echt zeer interessant om zo het buitenland te bekijken.
As an American living in the Netherlands, one thing I appreciate is that Stop Signs are so rare, that when you come across one, you take it more seriously. (even if plenty of people just ignore it altogether)
Stop signs are legal issue. If there is an accident and there is no light or stop signs, The city can and will be sued for millions for negligence .
@@jaimefish173 Another thing I like about the Netherlands: When I first came here, I noticed that none of the canals have railings to stop people from falling in them. I commented that the city could get sued for that. The answer I got: "No they would not. The city would just call you an idiot for falling in the first place."
They have an attitude of just don't be an idiot, while in the US the attitude is everyone is an idiot.
Azivegu that is pretty accurate yes! The world is so much easier and relaxed if instead you getting sued for others being idiots, the idiots get called out for being idiots and get a “what have you learned” speech.
@@Azivegu you'll notice in amsterdam the sidewalk is never next to the canal, it's always on the side with the houses. essentially, you're not meant to walk next to the water. the canals are open because historically they were used for docking. the center used to be filled with boats everywhere. even though it's much less now it's still used as such. sometimes you hear about cars rolling into the canals because they weren't in park. the city never gets sued, the owner ends up getting billed by the fire department for being a dumbass lmao
@@jaimefish173 If only people would take some responsibilities in traffic themselves...
4:58 One thing I noticed here. The stop line is forward enough where if you actually stop at the line, you can see left and right clearly, AND you're not blocking the bikes behind you. Too often North American roads put the stop line behind an intersecting crosswalk/bike path, which is fine. The issue is, if you actually stop there, some intersections don't give you enough visibility to actually see left and right, so you're forced to proceed into the sidewalk/bike crossing, blocking anyone trying to cross. This is especially problematic in urban areas, but even driving in suburban areas, I can't even trust the stop line!
The stop lines are so that large trucks can make the turn if a car is stopped there but it’s still rarely enough room
Yes! Thank you. Recently a building by me put up a dumpster at a T intersection so you couldn't see incoming traffic that doesn't have to stop. I have a roll an entire car length beyond the stop line before I can even see if it's safe to proceed
And don't ever stop in the crosswalk during a driving test, or you will flunk. Even police will do a "California stop" at stop signs.
its funny: the bikes are moving through intersections in the same way that people think self-driving cars could move through intersections
I found that noteworthy as well.
Thats why the self-driving car most likely will never find a foothold in Europe (And then West Europe and Scandinavia specifically), because the roads and the city design aren't set up for it (Roads and streets aren't wide enough basically). You can say the same about Japan.
@@nickdentoom1173 Why would you need wide streets? Just like smaller cars are more normal in Europe, so will smaller self driving cars be. Not to mention at by the point we have self driving cars then they will all be electrict meaning a smaller car is more prefered for effeciency. And if infrastructure and technology move the right way we can have dirt cheap small self driving ubers for the city, high speed rails between cities for longer travel and only people living in the countryside will have the need for bigger EV-cars.
Ah, but do self-driving cars have blind spots ?
@@FlushGorgon we dont know yet
Stop signs being the equivalent of "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" had me laughing out loud. It's so accurate that it's just depressing. As a Dutchie now living and cycling in Canada, I hate stop signs with a passion. And I miss the Dutch cycling infrastructure so much.
I only know 2 intersections with stop signs in my area. Both demand you to stop because right up to the intersection there is a wall blocking the view for 1 side.
The only time stop signs should be used! When stopping to be able to see, is actually required.
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 I'm glad my home country of Russia has similar standards. I like being able to proceed thru a junction if it's obviously clear without needing to stop and waste more petrol to get back up to speed. There's a few stop signs in my area. They're either at junctions with bad visibility, or at level crossings with no gates, barriers or even lights.
Though there's a few level crossings where even a stop sign is unnecessary, because there's a closed railway gate right next to the road, and it's easy to tell whether a train is coming through or not just by it's position.
And because we have such a car first society in Canada, drivers get pissy when you roll through a stop sign on a bike...when in reality you're basically going at the same speed as most drivers rolling through them too! But...drivers like to target cyclists because they find cyclists annoying and an impedance to traffic!
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278 This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about when I said:
A stop sign is saying "We designed this intersection so badly it can only be made safe by coming to a complete stop.".
Don't put a stop sign where the driver can see, make sure he can see. I bet the truck drivers can't see very well even if they did stop right?
@@newperve I understand that too frequent and inappropiate use of stop signs are shit but usage of stop signs in blind intersections is the right call. Sometimes you have to use a stop sign because the thing thats creating the blind spot could be an entire building or a hill and thats not something you can really workaround unless you want to evict people and pay thousands in destruction efforts.
"In the Netherlands, the concept of a stop sign was first introduced in 1941 by the German occupation force."
brb, dying
They (the nazis) also made it law that those pesky Dutch and their bicycles should always yield to all motorised traffic . A quaint law that wasn't changed until pretty recently, in the 2000's. Now all traffic from the right has right of way as the basic rule (before traffic signs tell you otherwise)
@@erfgoedgidsveenhuizen Shit I remember learning about this law change as it was happening in primary school. x'D Something like "Prins op de fiets".
@@TeshnosFire geef het door, rechts gaat voor haha
@@erfgoedgidsveenhuizen this law was never accepted, meaning that every form of traffic share the same set of basic regulations, including the Give Way to the Right.
@@erfgoedgidsveenhuizen Apperantly a lot of people don't know the change because I needed to stop several times because a car didn't stop for me on a bicycle and came from the right. So stopping it is because getting under a car doesn't sound fun
USA mindset: "But without stop signs for people to run and get ticketed for, how are you going to fund your police department that enforces our useless traffic laws?" After traveling to Amsterdam last summer, I felt like the US was a primitive country. Would say "developing," but that would imply actively making progress towards something better, which we are not.
Bro same god damn story. Same city in Europe. Left with the ame opnion about my home.
Welp your not wrong were a 3rd world country pretending to be a world power
It's ironic, in history people originally left Europe (and to an extent, Asia) to what are now the USA and Canada for a better life. Now, if people from those countries want said better life, they're better off staying on their continents. XD
@@skepticanadian3041 yep
@Quill Maurer actually the US seems to be backsliding in its development
I remember failing my first driver's test because I missed a stop sign. I did all the checks, there was no traffic whatsoever. When I was crossing the intersection, the instructor started panicking, yelling and hit the brakes stopping me in the middle of the intersection! I was so scared and it completely knocked the confidence out of me 😭. I passed the next exam, but I still have nightmares about it!
Yolanda. Be cool.
lucky you didn't cause a wreck
In the middle of the intersection? What a complete dumbass. I'd be terrified of being in a car with that instructor especially if they were behind the wheel
@@willdpe1256 “There was no traffic whatsoever”
@@semidecent4395 Thank you
Yolanda. You have to stop at every Stop sign. Especially when taking your driver's test .
I am an Urban Planning student from England who has always been interested in Dutch urban planning. I think the RUclips algorithm just recommended me the perfect channel.
I'm sure you already know about the channel called 'City Beautiful' and 'Armchair Urbanist', but if you don't, they're fantastic resources as well.
In return, if you know of any other channels, please tell me :D
@@saketjawaji1557 Thank you this was very useful.
@@saketjawaji1557 Melissa & Chris Bruntlett?!
Would you like to come and redo my town?
It did, welcome aboard!
So here's a weird one: This town in Germany got rid of ALL of the signs, crosswalks, speed limits, everything. Turns out the pedestrians were safer, the auto drivers actually drove slower and were more careful. They attribute part of the improvement to the fact that there isn't a tone of regulatory crap the driver has to keep track of.
No citations? Where’s the research to back up what you say?
@@larryparis925 this is a youtube comment
@@pprav987 A comment in which you made numerous claims. With no information to back up those claims. By the way, I know of a town in Switzerland that was taken over by aliens from the planet Xenon. Now, I’m not going to tell you how I know that. You’ll just have to trust me.
@@rex8255 Excellent! Many thanks, Rex.
I heard this when I was very young like 15 years ago. I'm wondering why this strategy has not been adopted?
My mom's friend from the UK came over to visit us here in Canada. She asked "Do you seriously have to stop at every one of these top signs?".
No wonder. They're used sparingly at the UK for blind/dangerous junctions so if you see one there's a good reason for you to stop and not just give way. A good driver from the UK would expect to always come to a full stop at a stop sign
How does anyone pass driving exams if they never stop at stop signs?
@@TheSpearkan they stop when they need too. ie. people around, cops there, driving test. after that, they dont care...
@@StarFyreXXX Yep, where I live I prob roll at least 80% of stop signs and I've never gotten a ticket. Its expected
''You see those are the rules, and some people made those rules, so people need to follows the rules, because the the rules are meant to be followed,any questions? ''😂😂
Yep. Solid logic. Let's put stop signs everywhere. 😂
@@NotJustBikes Yes and lets be more extreme than the German occupation force regarding road rules. 😂
@@NotJustBikes 'befehl ist befehl' comes to mind for some reason
@Average Joesson crosswalks you can activate with flashing yellow lights work. Then just step in, if anyone hits you bicycle or car it's a easy lawsuit.
@@NotJustBikes You forgot "We cannot discuss doing things different because that would break the rules."
"So if you think people should stop for a stop sign in all cases, you are literally more extreme than Nazi's"
Well, that escalated quickly.
@@bobstranzenbach4700 History happens to be on his side, in this case.
I don't like eggplant, but I don't blame Nazis for its existence.
This is excellent. I’m a Dutch guy living in Japan, and it always amazes me how people indeed follow the rules but it does not result in them paying attention. For instance, when crossing a railroad track, you have to come to a complete stop. Everyone does it, but no-one actually checks if there are any trains coming.
You stop at train tracks in Japan? Are there no gates so you just have to look or get smashed? Lmao
@@lukasg4807 There should be gates and flashing lights and a sound alarm. Not having these is madness.
@@leandrog2785 There are. When a train is 30s+ away, the bell dings (forever...) and the gates start coming down. The gates are down with ~15s left before the train gets there. You are in 0 danger of getting stuck on the tracks, so no worries. Plus it's a massive object in your peripheral vision for a long distance (since you stop before the tracks, it's in your field of vision for hundreds of meters usually, generally very straight track)
I've seen a few w/o gates outside of Tokyo, and maybe that's where the original commenter lives, outside of big cities. Here in Tokyo we don't need to look left/right when stopping at the tracks for the above reasons. We stop anyway because Japanese are nothing if not rule-observant.
In Europe, you're supposed to watch out for the train, even if there is no signal.
In Germany, I have seen multiple instances where the signal was inop and the train had to honk and proceed at pedestrian speed in hope of nobody crashing into it.
I can imagine the French guys stealing the Paris stop sign waving it around Paris like a revolutionary tricolor.
Damn.
I live in the netherlands, and its so weird hearing you talk about things that i find completely normal but people from other countries don't.
Same here.
I’m in love with your country lol
zoals een washandje, dat is dus ook echt een nederlands ding!
Pixu SSB Dankjewel!
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Inderdaad
Even at blind intersections a stop sign is hardly used in the Netherlands, if you can't see to the right you automatically stop out of practice. After all you can't give way to someone if you can't see them.
Yep. But it's recommended to keep it clear for everyone. Especially tourist drivers. At some bad visibility junctions I wish they put a sign under it saying "and look both ways"
@@tr33c21 as a tourist you should be more careful you don't know the place. And from abroad double because you don't know the customs.
@@redsheppard5618 Most European countries have the rule to give way to the person on the right, so most people know it anyways.
American's are too self centered to think that way. It's astounding but where I live we have right hand turn yield lanes so anyone turning right can just go, have their own merge lane that no one else can use and people still stop at them because they need to get into the far lane and cant be bothered to take an extra 2 minutes out of their day to just go with the intended flow of traffic.
Sometimes the sign "dangerous crossing" is placed.
As if you couldn't see that yourself.
After a full day of binging your videos my husband and I are like 70% seriously talking about just up and moving with our kids to the Netherlands. One can dream.
As someone who lives in the city of real London, stop signs as a concept used to confuse me when I was young.
My thought process about stop signs sort of went like: “wait, so you drive up to a sign that says ‘stop’ then... what? You just get out your car right then and there and get a new one?”
Same, when I was a kid, I didn't understand stop signs because I was like "traffic lights tell you when to stop and when to go again, but these signs just tell you to stop. Do you just stop forever??" I think part of it was because in the part of London I grew up in there are to my memory hardly any stop signs at all. It was all about traffic lights and zebra crossings.
No idea why youtube put this in my recommendations, but the elephant was worth it.
I used to work voor Rijkswaterstaat ( the ministery responsible for the roads) and when designing a new road we were mandatory by law to put some innovation in the new design. Don't now if this is still the case.
Waarom lees ik dat nu voor het eerst? Dat is toch mooi man? Heerlijk land leven we in.
Lopen nog steeds een aantal interessante projecten zo te zien.
Yes., one of the things I like about the Netherlands, is that we are always looking to improve things.
That's pretty cool.
Scary concept, mandatory innovations aren't always improvements.
Stop signs are extremely uncommon in the UK. I have seen only two in the 6 years driving in England. It was a huge shock to me initially as I come from Bulgaria where stop signs are literally on every junction.
The US has such a problem with stop signs (among other things). They have them at every other block on some streets to "deter speeding", but people still speed anyway, AND run the stop signs. What we need are speed humps that can be easily traversed at low speed but will mess up your car if you fly over them. Not speed bumps, speed _humps._
There is no POINT in stopping at a stop SIGN if you can see its CLEAR from a distance you Americans are such drama queens when it comes to any sort of sign be it speed limit signs of stop signs I shall refer to You as a KAREN
@@Jack-qv2lj Why are you being so rude to someone you clearly agree with? Both of your comments are complaining about the overuse of stop signs.
Nah, speed humps waste so much fuel- going down from 25 to 10-15 and back to 25 is so stupid.
They also wear cars down a lot.
What is needed is traffic calming- other then the stupid and pointless speed humps in my opinion.
There are two speed humps in my neighborhood that do their job way better than signs. You can cross them at 25mph without an issue which is far better than literally every other speed bump in the US that requires driving -2mph to avoid being slapped senseless like driving on a rock crawling trail. If we did something like that, we'd need to learn how to properly and consistently make good speed bumps.
@@Jack-qv2lj That's a $176 fine for doing a rolling stop, in my state, or worse for blowing through a stop sign if there's a cop or traffic camera involved. We don't like them either but law makers persist in finding ways to take our money on senseless laws that don't even protect people... so who exactly is a karen when all of us are in agreement?
Weird, never thought about this while riding my bike or car here in the Netherlands. We got so used to it
Uhu, exactly!
Kom je wel achter als je naar Amerika of Canada gaat.
Ironically coordinated chaos is much safer than clear set out structure. If you are driving in NL you also have to pay attention to some degree while driving in the USA for example you can kinda phase out because roads are to overstructured meaning you lose concentration which results in accidents
That's because we evolved to handle chaos, not a set of tightly defined rules covering simple situations. Our minds just aren't adapted to the sort of structure planners often think is best. Your mind rations attention because there's a limit to the amount of mental processing you can do, and it's always needed for something else. So a highly ordered situation will signal the brain to lower attention to that situation and either partially rest or consider another aspect of your struggle for survival. That's what worked when we were evolving and so that's how your brain works.
Also, texting/talking on the phone while driving is a serious problem in the U.S. This is partially enabled because it's too easy to drive distractedly without consequence. If our roads were designed slightly more chaotically, with more roundabouts and yield signs instead of stops, drivers would be forced to pay attention and drive deliberately.
@@InventorZahran Don't even get me started on people first in line at the traffic light who think red light time is phone time, and thus miss when the light turns green. Pay attention you stupid zoomers, Facebook will still be there when you reach your destination.
Very true, if I am tired driving its safer to speed. Which is a sign I need to hit the next hotel
I've been to cities in China and Mongolia where it is definite ironic coordination. Everyone must pay attention or get wrecked. There are few accidents and the volume of traffic, the seeming chaos is amazing.
just to be clear about the stop sign traffic light thing in Belgium. The stop sign is there in case the light doesn't work and the traffic can't function correctly. So normally the stop sign doesn't matter.
One of the big cultural changes I had to get used to driving here in Germany is the relative use of full-stops. In California, where I drove for something like 50 years, Stop signs are the default. Here in Germany they are very rare. The right over left rule dominates. By the way. I always come to a full stop at stop signs. Really.
For the dutch people: wie herinnert zich nog hrt fietsen examen van de basisscholen
Hoezo herinnert? Ik heb 2 jaar geleden nog een keer mee gedaan als examinator.
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phoee jaa, ik weet nog dat ik die goed gekeurd sticker niet op me fiets had zitten haha
Wheelies doen wanneer de examinator 't niet kan zien :P
I'm not dutch, but I did do a cycling proficiency exam in primary school, I passed. I am actually very grateful that I did this because now I live in the Netherlands and my fiets is my main method of transport. I am so happy that it is relatively safe to cycle here as I loved to cycle as a kid.
ik had m nooit gehaald omdat ik op een plein fietste, vervolgens kwam ik in groep 8 op een andere basisschool en zei ik dat ik m nooit gehaald had. zei de leraar: wil je ook een fietsdiploma dan? ik was echt geschokkeerd dat zo'n diploma dus eigenlijk niks betekent en niks voorstelt
the junction at 1:23 and 4:50 is in my hometown in Diemen (right next to amsterdam). When i was younger i was biking from the horse mange back down that road at 4:50 (the bike path in the front of the shot) with a friend of mine. there was a stop sign back then but no speed bumps and warning signs etc. there was a car on the right side of the road in the front of the shot at 4:50 who wanted to go right and we were stopping at the main road to cross it so we looked at the driver and he was like: go ahead (we were going straight on the same road so he had to give way) BUT there was a car coming on the main road from the left who we all didnt see except for me at the last second. My friend started biking (with the slow start as you mentioned) and while i screamed it was already to late and she got hit by the car coming on the main road. She flew and hit the pavement and started crying. she broke her leg and foot but got saved by her bike pedal wich took most of the hit so her leg was not totally hit. she was taken to the hospital and was fine eventually. after that they started to make the junction safer and added the bumps and zigzag lines etc. a lot of roads used to be more dangerous and after accidents they often change how junctions work. Tought this was worth sharing :)
Does said friend cycle today? In the UK the end of this story would be "and my friend has never cycled since. She now drives everywhere"
@@tomverseUK yes, i can't remember exactly, but she biked again and i reckon she started biking as soon as she could. I can see where you're coming from, but for young people here its just too much a part of normal life; going to school, going to friends, going to horseriding etc. So i think it doesn't even cross peoples minds that to stop using the bike is even a possibility, especially at a young age.
@@tomverseUK i think the trauma is more with crossing the street and being scared for cars then for being scared to bike. biking is like walking here, you wouldn't stop walking when you get hit by a car crossing the street as a pedestrian
@@bascep God, I need to move there. I wish my preference for the most efficient form of transport (the bike) didn't mark me out as a hobbyist here in Wales...
We have a relatively new junction in my city (Purmerend) that, since it's conception has seen a couple of accidents, with a very serious (almost fatal) one and local government failed to follow through.
The weird thing is: on every level the junction in particular ignores some of the core principals of junction design: A 30 kilometer road that has a cycle path crossing the road is basically always designed so that car users or any other motorised traffic need to yield to the cyclists.
This junction crosses a 30 kilometer road and car users have the right of way.
Junction design will usually try to steer clear of dangerous situations developing from the simple fact that a deviation in design might cause car users to be confused and stop whereas people behind them might not expect that and hit them.
Also, junction design will usually also take the level-surface (the "one big speed bump" explanation) design into account: in this case car users do not have to slow down because they hit a speed bump, but cyclists also don't experience one.
I think there is also a rule that should a cyclist be coming from some kind of downwards sloping cycle path towards a junction it's more convenient (and less dangerous) to give cyclists the right of way, but this rule or recommendation has also been ignored, you come racing down from a bridge and then have to come to a full stop because it's a busy junction where, next to the lack of clarity in how it's designed it's also common for people to ignore the speed limit of 30 kilometers an hour and drive 50.
Everyone: I live in the netherlands and its so weird to think that other places have stop signs.
Me: you guys dont have stop signs?!
The STOP-signs in Belgium that are mounted under traffic lights are to be ignored if the traffic lights work. They are only to be observed when the traffic lights are out of order (either on purpose, e.g. at night, or when there's a technical failure). This is actually written into the traffic dode of every European country, but you won't find this setup in every country.
I love it when RUclips suggests random city lifestyle video's. I've just binge-watched most of your video's already. You have a great voice, and good quality video's.
It's also great to see my own country through someone else's eyes. Gives me renewed enthusiasm for what could be considered the mundane.
As for this video, I cycle to Utrecht several times a week, and I just now marvelled for the first time at how easy it is for me. To get from my home to the city centre there are no stop signs and three traffic lights (with one 'rechtsaf vrij') on half an hour by bike.
The ability to go long distances without ever stopping is incredible. It was something I never really appreciated until I started living here and experiencing it myself. I now try to "game" my routes to see if, with minor changes, I can avoid all traffic lights. It almost always works!
@@NotJustBikes it does become a sport having as little traffic lights as possible...
Keeps the navigating fun, though
The Belgian stop signs on traffic lights 3:10 is to show priority in case the lights are malfunctioning.
Exactly. In all cases on the road there's the standard order of which instructions to follow. Instructions from people (police or traffic controllers) are always the highest authority, then electronic signals like traffic lights, then traffic signs, then the base rules. If a light is not working, follow the signs. If there are no signs, it's just a regular crossing now. Give way to the cars on the right, eye contact, negotiate, and you're on your way.
(Note: some countries have the rule: "a non-functioning stop light becomes a stop sign")
@@dexcuracy ... or an yield- sign for the hours with low traffic and switched out traffic- lights.
It's the same as in the Netherlands, but without the stop signs. Instead, yield signs are used (for some sides of the intersection). So that begs the question: why do they use stop singns in Belgium at traffic lights?
@@Christian-ox7qx A yield sign and a stop sign are exactly the same but a stop sign asks you exactly what it says, to STOP. A yield sign asks you to slow down OR stop if necessary. Did you ever study the signs...? Please don't spread misinformation to others and do your reseach before you make a claim on something.
@@Christian-ox7qx Stop signs at traffic lights are installed for the case, if it is out of service.
In this case users of the secondary- road have to wait ... the same principle like in Germany.
I am Canadian. While i was in Italy driving i noticed similar similarities of limited stop sign use in their cities, driving in Italy was so effiient and enjoyable compared to driving in Canada. I know Italy is far from the Netherlands in terms of road design, but all of Europe is light years away from North American when it comes to road usage and trasnportation.
I hate stop signs when I’m driving in the states. But having been pulled over by the cops once for not coming to the total stop at a stop sign, now i always do, even if it seems ridiculous. It’s great to be back in Europe away from the land of stop signs!
In Groningen we have big intersections where all 4 cycling lanes go green at the same time. You should experience them in the morning rush hour :)
The only time I was in Groningen was during a school holiday time and I only got to see about four or five cyclists at a time in these intersections. I'll have to go back some time, but I don't know when!
It's basically a free for all, it's chaos but it works
@@NotJustBikes Are you an American permanently living in the Netherlands? :)
I was thinking about those intersections in Groningen too. Very crowded, dozens of people crossing at the same time. But it never goes wrong, although I try to avoid those intersections at the start of a new college year with tons of new international students.
They tried it in Rotterdam as well. Total failure..
@@ABC-ABC1234 if you watched his other videos you'd know he is a Canadian. And lived in other various other places, from Toronto to San Francisco and London to Brussels. Finally ending up in Amsterdam. Where will he finally end up is another thing.
When the world is broken in such simple ways, it makes me angry, disappointed and hopeless. Netherlands is doing so many things right for transportation, JUST COPY IT. Finland is doing so many things right for education, JUST COPY IT. Singapore has solved their housing problem, JUST COPY IT. Some country has already figured out one or the other problem. It has already been done by someone, there is nothing to be invented, just observe, adjust and copy.
The problem is that people don't need solutions. They need solutions matching their bias.
Amen
@@AlexanderVlasov It's not that simple. What works in the Netherlands, can't work in the same way in the USA exactly because the distance between homes, stores and work and sometimes even neighbours is just too big and given that the quality of roads in the USA in general is poorer, less well maintained/renewed compared to the Netherlands exactly because of economic reasons. We live in a rather densely populated area and can do stuff other countries can't or can't afford to copy.
The same goes for the other things the opening poster mentioned, for various reasons, they can't be copied like a piece of paper.
@@AwoudeX Well yeah, the houses are far apart and businesses are far apart because of suburban r1 zoning. Instead of some quick and easy fix of just getting rid of stop signs to be like the Dutch, we can start with rezoning. The problem isn’t “we’re Americans therefore can’t be Dutch” is flawed because there is *nothing* stopping us from rezoning, redoing, and planning, the problem is that the US just always looks for a quick fix. If it can’t be solved by guns, money, or corruption, then it can’t be solved. If most Americans actually put in some effort we could adopt these plans, but that’s not going to happen.
@@AwoudeX the usa road design and quality just screams lazyness to me
That San Francisco bicycle protest is next level. That is just about the best protest I've ever seen.
This seems like a whole lot of fun to be able to cycle without having to continuously stop. Honestly, thanks for bringing this to people's attention.
0:22 It's clear why Canada has Stop signs: they're not to keep cyclists safe, they're for pedestrians trying to cross the intersection. If a car actually stops at a sign they have a better perspective and increased time to view pedestrians that might be trying to cross from the driver's right-to-left and vice-versa. Problem is most drivers just glide past the sign only looking out to the roadway to see if any oncoming traffic is approaching before turning right. I've seen so many close calls with people walking in this scenario and especially at night. I think a speed bump would be a good start. It's not just about bikes.
Maybe, but as a Canadian I can tell you Stop signs are excesivly used for the purpose to be used as a tool to slow down traffic and to give out driving infractions. The city will deliberatly put stops signs in very ineficient places knowing fullwell that people do not come to complete stops and the police at the end of the month hide and do full scale operations to hand out many $300+ tickets to both driver and cyclists.
Yep, I'm. Big believer in stop-bumps. Too many people roll right through
It isn't just about stop signs, but the overuse of stop signs and bad street design that lead to the problems we have in America. Clearly, they don't have the same problems in many stopsign-less, north European countries.
That's why he doesn't advocate for simply removing the stop signs, but for redesigning streets before they're gone altogether.
Bro, i think the purpose of the video flew right over your head. Canada and USA, face it has the worst urban planning out there relative to being a "1st world country". And I think your suggestion of adding a speedbump is exactly proof why roads out there are bad.
@@Muchacho2DMax Huh? Did you watch the video? Part of it was how things like bumps are used to make sure drivers slow down, thus eliminating the need for stop signs.
Is noone going to talk about that one guy in Paris who keeps stealing their only stop sign? He must have a sick collection by now
It's really impressive how the actual experience seems so seamless, that an average person won't even notice it. Yet for that it is so meticulously planned and designed!
You know what would really make things safer? Not treating driver's licenses like free candy and giving them to people who are incapable of driving safely.
Very true
I agree, but you can only do that if there is a viable alternative
@@_CriminalArt_ That's the biggest problem, we designed cities so it's impossible to do anything without a car, then surprise, we have to significant lower the requirements to drive a car or people are stranded :(
@@Nota-Skaven In cities, it's much easier to do things without a car. Many people don't even own them, because there's tons of public transportation and things you can walk to. My wife didn't own a car when she lived in new york city.
@@Andrew-it7fb New York City, you mean the city famous for being a rare occasion of actually having good transit in North America?
The east coast in general suffers far less from car dependency, with NYC being the most famous specifically because it sadly is not the norm (and of course the cities population size, which is likely linked)
3:08 the STOP sign is there for when the traffic signals lose power for some reason. The STOP sign is a backup sign.
Where I live in Texas literally everyone stops at stop signs. Even if there isn't a soul in sight, people still stop at them like a ritual and they respect it.
I can't believe how people just drive through them in this video.
one of my pet theories is that one of the reasons stop signs go over less well in europe because almost all cars are manual transmission and it's more of an annoyance to bring them out of a complete stop
lmao thats not true at all
@@UniversalKutub oh well
@@UniversalKutub it kinda is, im a new driver, and i started treating stop signs as yield signs because rolling through in slow 2nd is much nicer than stopping and starting from 1st.
2:30 "Heh, that guy looks like a Nazi."
2:33 "Oh he _is_ a Nazi?"
I thought exactly the same thing when I first found the photo! 😁
The uniform is Dutch police, so he's not a Nazi-Nazi as in German occupiers. *Probably* not, I should say, as the role of the Dutch police forces in WW2, especially in Amsterdam, has been rather... *questionable* at the very least.
At first I thought it looked a bit like mr H himself. But on closer examination I figured it out ;-) He was also never actually in the Netherlands in that period.
3:10 In Belgium, stop signs at traffic lights are only used when the traffic lights are disabled at the junction. They are only present on dangerous junctions with multiple prioritary roads. In fact, those are rarely used because most junction got traffic lights with a yield sign instead.
near where I live (in a cyclist friendly town in Germany), there is a junction where a street crosses a mayor bike path.
It used to be, that the bike path had stop signs, and the street had priority signs.
They probably counted vehicles, and came to the conclusion that this was stupid.
Now the bikes get priority and the few cars ever driving there have a stopsign.
The disadvantage on such crossings can be seen at another crossing near that:
during rush hour, it is nearly impossible to cross the cycling path as a car, due to kids cycling to school.
Well tell the kids to stop illegally driving cars then!!!
@@BlownMacTruck :D
I think the UK has got the balance about right for stop signs. There aren't many, and they tend to be in sensible places.
There tends to be way more give way signs than stop signs.
yeah the only ones ive seen was one in a pokey village and another right near a driving test centre which i think it was only kept there for driving tests haha
In the UK it's very similar, stop signs are extremely rare. I drive a Tesla and recently it got this update to detect stop signs, I had to have a long hard think about where the nearest one might be; Turns out it was 15 miles away, past the 5 roundabouts and no traffic lights. It was only there because there's buildings right up to the road edge so it's not possible to check if the road is clear without fully stopping.
Most US stop signs seem like they should be a yield/give way sign but they accidentally put up the wrong sign. I guess if they changed that now people would just fly through the yield signs and crash so it's a tough one to fix, can't fix stupid!
Here the infrastructure is designed to be as save as possible.
In countries like Canada and the USA, they don't develop the roads to make them saver. They stay with what they always did.
In the Netherlands they try to make it do no accidents happen. This is impossible, but the goal is to get it to 0.
That means that even as a road isn't that old and it is dangerous. It will be changed. Also each new road gets the latest developments that makes it saver and old roads get updated if needed.
Even the quality of the road is kept up to date to keep it save. That is shy the roads here look way better than in almost any other country.
Yup, that's why we also pay pretty high taxes. Whenever I'm in another country I can thankfully really see were all the taxmoney goes towards and it's well worth it! It's a little bit harder to see when you don't get to travel. Thankfully there are also videos like these for those that don't.
@@warffxfreak taxes are high, but overall we are way cheaper.
And yes we get a lot back for it what you see as soon as you go to an other country.
@@emiel1976ep wouldn't agree with the thing that we are way cheaper... Taxes going as high as 53% and 21% on most of the products. Also we have mandatory insurances.
@@l.l.6407 No you look ad taxes only, but take the USA. They pay less taxes but medical costs are way higher. As they get sick, they pay way more than we do. Also do they pay things like taxes but are called different. As the end, they pay more.
Other countries in the EU pay lower taxes, but also get a lot less back for it.
Only Greece is different. There you don't pay taxes and expect to get it for free. 😂😂
@@emiel1976ep they might pay more yeah, but therefore their income is averaged higher.
So it compensates, but I fully have to agree that medical costs are higher.
I love how you can see all those cyclists stop on the intersection while they're waiting for all the traffic on their right side to pass. It looks chaotic but it's so natural and it doesn't require a whole lot of thinking either.
Most sensible: The Idaho stop law is the common name for a law that allows cyclists to treat a stop sign as a yield sign, and a red light as a stop sign
Most sensible: no just get rid of stop signs lol
I grew up in England but moved to the US. Having grown up with roundabouts I view the 4 way stop intersection to be just about the most childish way to build an intersection. But I think even 8 year olds would be able to figure out a better solution.
The few roundabouts I have seen in the US all have the wrong right of way rules and are thus even more absurd.
I have concluded that 4 way stops are so popular because Americans just love stupid rules and it creates a great revenue source by sending out police to ticket people.
In my neighborhood there is even a stop sign on a road without an intersection. There had been an intersection but during reconstruction one road was closed. But they left the stop sign where the intersection had been.
Mini roundabouts as used in the UK should replace all 4 way stops. The main problem is that in the US, the concept of public service announcements on TV is not understood so there is no effective way of communicating changes to the population efficiently.
I almost failed my first driving exam in The Netherlands back in 1999 for not completely stopping at a stop sign. It was only because the examiner noticed I was nervous yet did everything else during that ride by the book that he let me pass. I never even noticed the stop sign and I never really lost my blindspot for them.
Dont forget our driving exam (theory And practical part) And much longer And advanced compared to america.
And we have to be 18 (or in Some cases 17 with an experienced driver next to you) which gives you more experience in The road (by bike)
The stop signs under traffic lights are actually common across Belgium, not just in Brussels. And they're just a fallback in case the light fails (or is turned of at night).
I know in the US there are a few intersections with both Stop Signs and Traffic Lights; but I never knew what they where for. In some cities, they just switch the Traffic Lights to the 'Flashing' mode at night (or whenever the traffic density is low enough to do so) so the intersection functions as a 2 way stop (assuming it's a 4 way intersection); giving the higher priority roads flashing yellow for yielding, and the others flashing red for stopping.
In the UK we generally don't bother with a STOP sign, unless it is absolutely necessary. We instead have a "Give Way" sign. Which means exactly what you'd think - you must yield the right-of-way. That's used at a lot of junctions - the STOP sign is only used when visibility is poor or something like that and you absolutely have to stop to have enough time for effective observations.
I lived my whole life in Russia and last 4 years I am studying in Rotterdam (and plan to stay). And I am now used to so many things in the Netherlands, that when I watch these videos it really strikes me
tell the world: you can't have progress, if you must stop all the time :)
just getting American's for learn and apply "right of way" would solve so many issues with traffic of all sorts!
Good luck. They'll just complain about infringement of their free-dumb.
Americans use "right of way" as a weapon.
Wait you don't yield to the person on your right when there's no signs at an intersection? How do you handle it then, seems like such a basic thing to me I didn't even think there could be some place that didn't use that :D
I learned right of way but the problem is....no matter if others have the right of way or not, they will take it. Courtesy has gone out the window in America. We treat each other like dirt and especially when we're in our cars.
@@matousfiala5925 Whoever gets there first is the actual rule in America. 'Yield to the person on the left' is the backup I think? I could be wrong, it rarely comes up. Usually both people stop and then sort of play chicken with who can wait longest.
I was queued up for ages at a junction (in Canada) the other day, thinking that 4 way stops have to be the slowest way of controlling traffic that has ever been invented!!!
north american traffic infra is weird to me as an aussie; why dont you peeps just use roundabouts?
@@hekkamomo I totally agree. Roundabouts are much more efficient.
2:41 I'm shocked to see so many cars ignore that stop sign, usually in the NL they are placed with a good reason.
Yes, I came to the comments to see what people made of that. Why is there yield signs in the road and a stop sign on the post? They contradict each other.
And about the stop signs under a traffic light, here in sweden we have those signs in case the traffic light is broken, then you revert to the signs. Some have stop signs while others have yield signs and if one of the roads is a major road it usually has a "main route" sign. (I have no idea what those are called in english)
Having the road raised at junctions is also useful for pedestrians pushing prams or people using wheelchairs, who then don't have to negotiate high kerbs.
*curbs*
@@carultch If you prefer.
Meanwhile, the town in Canada I just moved away from has spent the last several years slowly replacing every single intersection with 4-way stops in the name of "safety."
1:23 yikes, here where I live in rural area in finland we do not know the consept of stopping a bicycle.
Unless there is car right there on the road at that exact moment
My town in Colorado replaced a lot of stop signs with yield, or nothing at all. It works well.
In places where it snows, you can't depend on only surface markings.
Man, as an American, those last few seconds filled me with so much longing for a less car-centric world i nearly had tears in my eyes
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In London, tiny "circles" are used at some intersections that would be four way stops in the US. Drivers would look left and roll through. But I found it harder as a pedestrian. Neither cars nor bikes (mostly scooters) were interested in stopping to let pedestrians cross.
Amazing channel, thanks! I have learned so much. I live in Sweden and take the bike every day but think about doing it even more with my family.
If you encounter a stop sign in the UK, it's there because "We tried Give Way (yeild) and accidents proved it wasn't sufficient." You find them only where visibility is completely atrocious.
The UK also has very few stop signs. There are a few where visibility is especially awful.
True, there is one other thing the UK does pretty well: painting a circle in the middle of an intersection and tell people it is a roundabout. Stupidity Triumphant.
Belgian here. The combination of traffic signs and lights aren't complicated at all. The signs are only used when the lights are out of order..
In the US, the de-facto rule is that traffic lights should be treated as all-way stops if they blackout. But every blackout I've seen, no one follows that rule. Usually it ends up becoming a stop for the side streets and a free-for-all for the higher ranking street.
I flippin’ love this channel’s perspective. Such great insights.
Thanks a lot for your unique content and amazingly filmed roads
And how to recognize if a car driver has been in the Netherlands:
Looks over his right should before every right turn.
Also: I able to spot bicyclist without light in the dark, in the rain, crossing an intersection from the wrong way.
so... basically his or her head is continuously spinning
Except didn't grow up in the Netherlands and did the same thing, proper city driving where everything isn't suburbia (as in you have lots of pedestrians running around the place that often don't follow the rules).
I've probably been in more car accidents and witnessed more car accidents than most in first world countries, I make it a point to have car insurance change the question from "How many accidents have you been in?" to "How many while I was driving?", so four, of which none yet have been my fault.
(This all in South Africa, never been in an accident in Europe/US; one case of car is stopped in traffic, taxi took out my left side, one case of taxi taking out my mirror, another with trolley man going on a 4 lane highway at night on a mountain side (Google Groote Schuur and check the highway intersection to the south), and then another of a truck jack knifing on a highway, that last one was probably one of the scariest moments of my life as there's nothing you can do as you know you won't be able to break in time but you're hoping you're going to slow down enough and that the car's crumple zone will be good enough, think I hit at 40kmph, down from 120, I was fine, person left to me got rushed to hospital, car write off).
The only time stop signs annoy me as an American driver is when they're in parking lots. I'm already going under 10mph I think I'll be fine with a simple yield. Also, the mindset one SHOULD have at a stop sign isn't "I've stopped, so I can go now." rather "I've stopped, carefully checked my surroundings for other motorists/pedestrians/cyclists and have determined that it is now safe for me to continue." People that just roll through every stop sign they encounter are the problem. Not the stop sign itself. People are the problem in America. No one gives a shit here. People get out of Drivers Ed and go "well, I'm never going to use any of what I just learned ever again". I guarantee if you took a bunch of American drivers and stuck them in the middle of one these European cities (even if you educated them on how the roads work there first) there would be a massive uptick in accidents because they would simply refuse to comply.
@Tonto that because in America any person can train any other person to drive. which can transfer bad habits to the new driver and go take their road and it is very cheap. in england and I believe and in Europe only licensed professional can train you and it cost a few thousand dollars to get your license. So ppl take it more seriously.
they dont give a shit about stop signs BECAUSE they're used EVERYWHERE lol. it just becomes something you tune out
Fun fact (although it may be different in your state), stop signs in parking lots are not actually legal traffic control devices so you can't be ticketed for them, and don't technically _have to_ obey them.
The exception however, is for stop signs at the egress before you turn onto the road, that one is controlling road traffic, therefore legal.
I honestly think we need an entire upheaval of our driving education, culture and infrastructure before we're even close to being ready to get rid of stop signs in North America.
There is no intrinsic difference between Americans and Europeans. I don’t understand how you could leave a video with the impression that it was anything other than road design. I mean he specifically said drivers that aren’t paying attention or listening to rules will be slowed down by the design of the road.
In America there's a lot of (asphalt) recreational trails being built. Many are "rails to trails" and some are also along major roads or in utility corridors. There are a lot of these in my metro area and I've rode my bike on nearly all of them. They're awesome but lack the connections and amenities that could turn them into real bicycle highways like I've seen in the Netherlands.
But one of the most baffling things about these trails are the (mini) stop signs. Every time the trail crosses a smaller street, entrance to a shopping center, apartment complex, whatever, there's a stop sign meant to stop the trail user and give cars priority. Everyone ignores them and cops never enforce them. These signs are ridiculous in my opinion so I disregard them and only yield if there is actually a car there. Now when the trail crosses a busier collector road, it'll get a crossing with flashing lights but you have to stop and push a button. The bigger road crossings usually get aligned with full scale intersections but again you have to press a button. When the road crossing is too big, bridges and tunnels are employed.
What a brilliant analysis! Thank you for bringing this topic to light for more people.
After living 4 years in the US and soon moving back to Europe, driving infrastructure here is one of the things I'll miss the least. Strodes, stop signs, 4+ lane highways. For a country so dependent on cars you'd think they'd value car infrastructure more.
In the UK stop signs are used incredibly rarely and each one needs a specific piece of legislation before it can be placed. We're not very cycle friendly at all, but at least we got that right. Our roundabouts are dangerous for cyclists though - they habitually remove them in cities and replace them with lights to improve safety. Hopefully we will get some more of the Dutch design ones soon.
I remember one stop sign, in the middle of a huge junction in a small town. it was on one of the 2 main roads leading out of town and you cannot see left or right without stopping.
but it's only one junction
4:50 I’ve been to Portugal. They have roundabouts everywhere. It makes you wonder how pedestrian traffic works there.
I think there is a lot to think about and maybe get rid of those Stopsigns, once the roads are ready for the change.
Nice video
Nice video :) I don't want to think about the route from my house to the city centre having every junction replaced with stop signs. It takes about 20 minutes on the bicycle now; with stop signs it would take 40 minutes and I would be much more fatigued...
Something completely different: the Renault Twingo at 3:45 has a special GN-numberplate, meant for foreigners having a status of living and working in The Netherlands without being a Dutch citizen (staff of an embassy or some other official internationally oriented organisation). They don't pay road tax, and therefore have a special numberplate. A normal numberplate would be 01-DBB-1, or G-123-BB, but this one is 94-GN-87.
@Roel Veenema Yes, AA is used for the royal family. There are a lot more special combinations (e.g. CD, CDJ, DM, GV, and also BN and GN like the Twingo in the video).
According to Wikipedia, the GN is "for vehicles whose owner is not liable to taxation such as staff from embassies without diplomatic status, consulates or international organisations such as ESA, ICC, UN-ICJ or OPCW".
The BN and GN plates only have this special meaning if used in sidecodes 1, 2, 3 and 4. I don't know if a combination like GN-BB-01 could have existed.
See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_Netherlands for more info on this.
I have seen one of these "Halt" signs. It was somewhere on a road in the woods, but still valid sign sometimes in the end of the seventies.
4:13 (and 5:31) wow that part of the video is really amazing - so many cyclists and cars driving and crossing each others way and literally no one seems unsafe or is even crashing. This is so awesome!
I love all the trees in Amsterdam.
Isnt that normal ? Could you senta picture hpw it look in your earea?
@@pwghost I live there.
Well this is one of the few things I can agree with you on. We need less stop signs but that goes with less signs over all. Just this week the city came in put up speed limit signs in my neighborhood. That was 17 years after it was built and it really is just a a large letter P shaped not like you can speed anywhere with a car with one entrance and exit.
A couple of years back, my locality came and put in signs to warn you that there were stop signs 10m in front of the stop signs.
2:19 Someone needs to clip that line and make it a meme, it's so beautiful.
The street in front of our small, local university was 4-lane w/ a center island that made it feel like a 5-lane. Was 25 MPH, but people flew down it. ... City changed that to 2 automobile lanes & 2 bike lanes. That simple change in lane markings dramatically slowed traffic.
@2.6 HALT sign : the word HALT comes from the german verb HALTEN, which means STOP. You can still find the influence of this german word in e.g. the dutch word Tramhalte (tram stop) , but the dutch call "to stop"" stoppen.
And yes, cycling along Amsterdam zoo ( Artis), be aware of the elephant 's view !
Strumming my pain with his fingers, singing my life with his words.
Seriously, Canada can learn so much about building better neighborhoods
In Osaka,Stop and Yield signs are also accompanied with a meter plate to indicate distance:
Stop ahead(red hexagon with white below)
Yield ahead(yellow triangle with white below)
3:05 we have that in sweden to, its for if the lights stop working you go down one step on the "hierarchi of trafic signals" .... 1.police/Road worker 2.Lights 3.signs 4.Rules like yeald to right approaching trafic