What’s different is the political & social commentary. The sound of drums is how a charismatic figure can sweep the nation into voting for a prime minister who just wants power & doesn’t care for people. The giggle is about this generation becoming more aggressive by thinking they’re righteous thanks to the increased access to the internet.
@@hazmat7949 I should clarify I meant this generation of people rather than a particular age demographic. And yeah the older generation, the ones that are rude to workers & go on rants about wokeness are obnoxious.
@pcb1175 fair enough that's on me. Probably assumed too much with the phrase this generation haha. But you're absolutely right unfourtnetly can see it anywhere and everywhere on the Internet
I like how in this scene that the Doctor isn't using the Sonic to copy the Giggle onto all those screens so much as he was using it to uncover the Giggle hidden within them
This is where David shines above all the others that have played the role... When he starts to figure it out and goes on a rant explaining it to everyone. A bit of wonder, fear, disgust, and anger ... All in a short scene... He's over the top but in a way that works for the character.
So this would mean that at one point in the version of the timeline the Toymaker f'd up, in 1969, the moon landing footage had two subliminal messages spliced in at once, one being the Silence instructing humanity to kill them all on sight and another being the giggle. I wonder if there would have been any interaction effect between the Giggle and the Wire from The Idiot's Lantern in series 2.
That does actually make me wonder if the Toymaker was immune to the memory proofing of the Silence, if he knows about them or would also need either an eye drive or tally marks to remember them. I haven’t actually watched the episode so maybe they did touch upon this, but if not, then it’d be interesting to see them interact as I feel like the Silence would further demonstrate how powerful the Toymaker is, if he’s so powerful that he can perfectly remember all of his encounters with the Silence, or if the Silence are so strong with their memory proofing that one of them used post-hypnotic suggestion to convince the Toymaker to set it free. To be honest, I feel like the former is more likely.
@@S-Fan2006The Toymaker's an elder being stronger than the Time Lords at their peak. He shouldn't have trouble peering through primitive 5th millenium antimemetics.
@@hazmat7949The specials had a lot of the classics and old favorites from Gold's run. Special 1 had the Doctor's Theme from series 2-4 as well as I Am The Doctor. Special 2 had This Is Gallifrey, and apparently Special 3 supposedly had The Shepherd's Boy
A story plot like this that revolves around when the first image when television was being created would have been more fitting for the BBC Centenary Anniversary special that came the year before, which had The Power of the Doctor that many have said would have been more fitting for the Doctor Who Sixtieth Anniversary when we had the Fourteenth Doctor specials.
I kind of miss this doctor, he feels like the original, even after all the regenerations he's still the doctor, but somehow Ncuti feels like a different person. The bi-generation really must have been the doctor splitting, the original being 14, and a copy being the 15th doctor :(
I actually liked this idea. And Neal did a great job playing the Trickster. But the way they ended it was bad. They only gave the Trickster 2 episodes. They should've had him be the antagonist for all 4 episodes. It would explain why he ran into Donna and then the Trickster could've sent them to the ship from the second episode. Then we have episode 3 where the giggle takes effect and episode 4 brings it to a finale where we have the new Doctor outsmart tye Trickster like the original Doctor did. I feel that would've been a nicer full story.
@_MyNameIsAJ_ not blaming them all for the doctor who stuff but some episodes are not good for me like dot and bubble. But I'm obvious not gonna blame disney plus for the new doctor who
Good god, the lack of subtlety fucks this SO hard. Tennant and Tate can try and carry this as much as they want, but RTD’s lost skill is weighing it down more than they can manage (which is impressive)
@@arkhamwarden1205 I think Moffat was a lot worse, he was a terrible showrunner. The best era of doctor who was the 3rd doctors, in my own opinion. That's what you need to understand, your opinion is just that, an opinion and not fact.
Yeah…except the specials with 14 were before Disney actually put money for distribution forward and were designed to get Disney into backing the money…and they still don’t dictate the plot even now. Pure RTD here mate.
Disney has no creative power. Just streaming rights! All decisions are made by BBC and the current show runner. RTD already dismissed so many of Disneys proposed ideas. He’s running the show his way, not Disneys.
This concept is the same as The Master's Archangel Network where the beat of 4 is hidden to hypnotize whole britain to trust him
What’s different is the political & social commentary. The sound of drums is how a charismatic figure can sweep the nation into voting for a prime minister who just wants power & doesn’t care for people. The giggle is about this generation becoming more aggressive by thinking they’re righteous thanks to the increased access to the internet.
@pcb1175 you say this generation, as somebody who worked during covid it definitely wasn't the younger folkes acting aggressive in shops
@@hazmat7949 I should clarify I meant this generation of people rather than a particular age demographic.
And yeah the older generation, the ones that are rude to workers & go on rants about wokeness are obnoxious.
@pcb1175 fair enough that's on me. Probably assumed too much with the phrase this generation haha. But you're absolutely right unfourtnetly can see it anywhere and everywhere on the Internet
@@hazmat7949 don’t worry about it, it’s fine.
Don't forget, he's in the screen you're looking at right now 😂🤣
I’m watching this from a book
@@cluelesspotato8945 Your good then.
Well then I think Stooky Bill might need to get some therapy
@@cluelesspotato8945 Well, that's alright then!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
I like how in this scene that the Doctor isn't using the Sonic to copy the Giggle onto all those screens so much as he was using it to uncover the Giggle hidden within them
isnt that implied
That's exactly what he's doing.
Honestly, I think it's funnier to imagine he's just copying it because it's easier to use a bit of cheap theatre than explaining it to the whole room.
He is using the sonic
This is where David shines above all the others that have played the role... When he starts to figure it out and goes on a rant explaining it to everyone. A bit of wonder, fear, disgust, and anger ... All in a short scene... He's over the top but in a way that works for the character.
I think matt smith was just as good at that as well
@@SuperGamingpepper I agree Matt was good at it. I just personally think David has a bit more nerdy scientific flair.
Inside out team effort
There's al-ways-a-twist-at-the-end
OHHHHHHHH that's what everyone meant by the Giggle is in the song
HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAA
And you also have The Beatles singing about the fact they've got a dog.
So this would mean that at one point in the version of the timeline the Toymaker f'd up, in 1969, the moon landing footage had two subliminal messages spliced in at once, one being the Silence instructing humanity to kill them all on sight and another being the giggle.
I wonder if there would have been any interaction effect between the Giggle and the Wire from The Idiot's Lantern in series 2.
The wire probably booted it out and also the different timelines n shit
That does actually make me wonder if the Toymaker was immune to the memory proofing of the Silence, if he knows about them or would also need either an eye drive or tally marks to remember them. I haven’t actually watched the episode so maybe they did touch upon this, but if not, then it’d be interesting to see them interact as I feel like the Silence would further demonstrate how powerful the Toymaker is, if he’s so powerful that he can perfectly remember all of his encounters with the Silence, or if the Silence are so strong with their memory proofing that one of them used post-hypnotic suggestion to convince the Toymaker to set it free.
To be honest, I feel like the former is more likely.
@@S-Fan2006as insanely powerful as The Toymaker is, likely can recall The Silence.
@@animeguardianxx I’m not too clear on the phrasing. Did you mean to say "he likely _can_ recall the Silence" or "likely _can’t_ recall the Silence"?
@@S-Fan2006The Toymaker's an elder being stronger than the Time Lords at their peak. He shouldn't have trouble peering through primitive 5th millenium antimemetics.
Fantastic scene, Doctor Who is back! David has still got it.
“Doctor Who is back”
Proceeds to have abysmal viewings a month later
@@arkhamwarden1205just let them have their moment
@@arkhamwarden1205 the viewership ratings was only the live views on BBC one, not including BBC iPlayer
@@ConnorJarvis39 If you can’t handle people with opposing opinions, don’t post on the internet
@@arkhamwarden1205 I can handle it, i don’t know what I say half the time. I’m sorry
I love how they subtly put the « all the strange new creatures » theme back at 2:25.
I love this scene so much. It’s 10 running on the skills/knowledge of himself and 11 thru 13
So glad they brought this soundtrack back
What's the soundtrack
So far all I've seen is a variation slowed down version of "the strange strange creatures" hope this will be realised though
@@hazmat7949The specials had a lot of the classics and old favorites from Gold's run. Special 1 had the Doctor's Theme from series 2-4 as well as I Am The Doctor. Special 2 had This Is Gallifrey, and apparently Special 3 supposedly had The Shepherd's Boy
@@viola_caseyou can hear The Shepherd's Boy when The Doctor arrives at UNIT by helicopter
Damn theres so much echo & foreshadowing here for both Maestro and The One Who Waits
I guess that's just family trait😅
This is one of my favorite scenes here. A great Doctor moment.
A story plot like this that revolves around when the first image when television was being created would have been more fitting for the BBC Centenary Anniversary special that came the year before, which had The Power of the Doctor that many have said would have been more fitting for the Doctor Who Sixtieth Anniversary when we had the Fourteenth Doctor specials.
Oh Mister Tennant! Hasn't lost a step!
🎶Ha ha ha ha shut up!!🎼
I kind of miss this doctor, he feels like the original, even after all the regenerations he's still the doctor, but somehow Ncuti feels like a different person.
The bi-generation really must have been the doctor splitting, the original being 14, and a copy being the 15th doctor :(
I actually liked this idea. And Neal did a great job playing the Trickster. But the way they ended it was bad. They only gave the Trickster 2 episodes. They should've had him be the antagonist for all 4 episodes. It would explain why he ran into Donna and then the Trickster could've sent them to the ship from the second episode. Then we have episode 3 where the giggle takes effect and episode 4 brings it to a finale where we have the new Doctor outsmart tye Trickster like the original Doctor did. I feel that would've been a nicer full story.
This isn’t the trickster
Golden tooth it has be The Master. The Toymaker mentioned him
I've just had a thought. Did Donna teach her daughter the recorder because subconsciously, she remembers the 2nd doctor playing the recorder?
yeah i'm gonna be that guy, pretty sure that sequence of notes is actually acfcfeg...
Mel does start on C, but yeah stooky bill starts on A (well, concert G but as a trumpet player its A to me lol)
So it's like Kingsman...
How in the world so?
@@theradicalginger3060 Kingsman: The Secret Service spoilers... A sound signal on every device drives everyone to violence
@@kombuchamooch you got me there XD
@@theradicalginger3060 👈😎👈
🎉🎉🎉🎉
ha hA Ha HA Ha hA ha
Maestro’s* Giggle
Daddy had a favorite.
...Why was taking out KOSAT important?
The effect of the giggle started when KOSAT came online so it was logical to think that shooting it down could stop the effect, it doesn't.
@@screener0797 yeah at this time they had no idea the giggle was supernatural in origin and embedded since forever by a supernatural being.
And yet. Maestro did the giggle so thanks to disney ruining it again it was maestro
Maestro’s dad is The Toymaker. They both could likely do it.
It's probably the theme of the Pantheon and they all use it. No woke conspiracy this time. Or ever, I'm afraid.
Yep. At least we know who did the giggle. Mystery over. Next Mystery is whos Ruby's mother
@@thecakecult5956 I suspect Ruby is her own mother
@_MyNameIsAJ_ not blaming them all for the doctor who stuff but some episodes are not good for me like dot and bubble. But I'm obvious not gonna blame disney plus for the new doctor who
Good god, the lack of subtlety fucks this SO hard. Tennant and Tate can try and carry this as much as they want, but RTD’s lost skill is weighing it down more than they can manage (which is impressive)
🤡
@@toasterwaffleowen4709 Why do you think that's a good response to criticism? Is your brain melted from how bad RTD has become
@@arkhamwarden1205 I think Moffat was a lot worse, he was a terrible showrunner. The best era of doctor who was the 3rd doctors, in my own opinion.
That's what you need to understand, your opinion is just that, an opinion and not fact.
Man.....remember Doctor Who? Great show before they killed it.
Rip doctor who because Disney ruined it
Oh Christ not this shit again.
Then stop watching it
Go and be gay elsewhere
Yeah…except the specials with 14 were before Disney actually put money for distribution forward and were designed to get Disney into backing the money…and they still don’t dictate the plot even now. Pure RTD here mate.
Disney has no creative power. Just streaming rights! All decisions are made by BBC and the current show runner. RTD already dismissed so many of Disneys proposed ideas. He’s running the show his way, not Disneys.
this is a certified HA HA HA HA, HA-HA HA moment