Two (three*) fun facts about the Su-33. It didn't get canards to increase its maneuverability, but to be able to take off from it's carrier, since it lacked a catapult and used a ramp system. Which also brings me to my second, they figured out the wingspan of the Su-27 wasn't big enough to take off from said carrier and had to increase by I believe 41% (don't quote me on that) making it a lot heavier, even heavier when you factor in arresting hook and landing gear. Which leads me to my third* (asterisk because I don't have the manual for the Su-33 but it is a rumour nonetheless) due to increased weight it's rumoured to have a higher stall speed than the Su-27SM in game, meaning it will stall quicker.
1:45 I would need some source corrections on this but I am very sure the 33 itself could never carry 27EAs nor EMs until it's more modernised versions, as the 27EA had an almost exact same seekerhead as the R-77, meaning. To be able to carry the 27EA you had to be able to carry the R-77, which the Su-33 never had the radar for. Again, if you have a source that is opposite of what I said I would love to read throught it, as I have been very confused about the EA and it's development
@@mangosuppe8706 If you look, the SU-33 never supported R-77s, however it supported R-27s Fox 1’s and 2’s, the SU-33 never got a chance to fully use the EAs however they were interchangeable with the other R-27s. You can find it on google pretty easy.
The Su-33 cannot carry the EA and never could until the Модернизированный program making it unoffically a Su-33M. The EA had the same seeker head as the R-77. The Su-33 carried the N001 radar, so I dont understand why you even said: It cannot carry other Fox 3s...but it can carry the R27EA?????
@ Yes after it has been modernized to carry the N001VEP. The N001 was never able to carry Fox 3 and the requirements for the R-77 are the exact same as for the R27EA as guess what…they had the same seeker head…
@@diaress and that is the more than likely variant we are getting. Considering what else we would receive. Therefore it will likely receive EAs as it didn't carry R77s.
@ How should a plane that was never used be added? The Su-33 Modernisation program was cancelled. Apparently you need to do your research a little harder…We really don’t need even more paper planes in this game
@ I’m sorry, but the SU-33 was already in the files, this video was simply to inform of everything they could technically GIVE the aircraft. I think the point of the video was misinterpreted here.
at this point, not just Su-33 even Su-30, F-18 even the rafale can be expected to add in any update so we are just gambling with decent chance every time they release a teaser because the weapons that equipped on them is already exist on WT. I think the Su-33 and F-18 will be released at the same time in an aircraft carrier focused update. For the Kh-31, since gaijin is taking measure with the CAS dominating top tier, i dont think we gonna see it anytime soon. R27EA, tbh forget about it in atleast a year since R27ER is still have it standing as one of the best missiles atm and i personally dont understand the hate toward R-77. the problem is just russian planes is bigger and dodging missile is harder than smaller jets like f16, a little less range than aim120 for the mobility 50g pull is quite fcked up imo
The problem is, R77 is more of a dogfighting missile (better at close range) but Su27SM is a superiority fighter and doesn't do well in close quarters. The missile and airframe don't compliment each other. R77 would be good on something like a Gripen or a Mirage, not on something like a Su27 or an F15.
I think it will come with R-27EAs but goddamn the Eurofighter will slam this thing, again Russia will have problems until the thrust vectoring comes in.
R27eas shouldnt come to the game. They dont exist and never existed outside a drawing. If they were added they would be easily the best fox 3 and that is solely because its a paper weapon. Su33 wouldnt bring anything ti the game as russia doesnt have a naval airforce. So I t never developed su33 further
@thesupreme8062 5 were produced and fired/launched, but it did lose against the R-77 in development, but there is a big probability that the 33 never could carry the 27EA because of the similar seekerhead to the 77, meaning that you would need a radar capable of using the R-77 to use the 27EA but I've yet to find what jets were tested with the 27EA
As far as I can see the SU-33 was the only aircraft that did test the EA, otherwise it would of been a more modern SU-27 but either way it definitely existed and could be added as a unique weapon especially for a squadron vehicle.. as we see what it became
Bringing this aircraft in as a squadron vehicle is absolutely diabolical gajin
Two (three*) fun facts about the Su-33. It didn't get canards to increase its maneuverability, but to be able to take off from it's carrier, since it lacked a catapult and used a ramp system. Which also brings me to my second, they figured out the wingspan of the Su-27 wasn't big enough to take off from said carrier and had to increase by I believe 41% (don't quote me on that) making it a lot heavier, even heavier when you factor in arresting hook and landing gear. Which leads me to my third* (asterisk because I don't have the manual for the Su-33 but it is a rumour nonetheless) due to increased weight it's rumoured to have a higher stall speed than the Su-27SM in game, meaning it will stall quicker.
Meaning worse turn rates
@@BARelement That too
Where’s the counter measures 😂😂😂😂
@nemoclavon566 On the tail right between the engines on the upper side facing upwards😁
@@mangosuppe8706 I mean there’s only 48 🤣🤣🤣
1:45 I would need some source corrections on this but I am very sure the 33 itself could never carry 27EAs nor EMs until it's more modernised versions, as the 27EA had an almost exact same seekerhead as the R-77, meaning. To be able to carry the 27EA you had to be able to carry the R-77, which the Su-33 never had the radar for. Again, if you have a source that is opposite of what I said I would love to read throught it, as I have been very confused about the EA and it's development
@@mangosuppe8706 If you look, the SU-33 never supported R-77s, however it supported R-27s Fox 1’s and 2’s, the SU-33 never got a chance to fully use the EAs however they were interchangeable with the other R-27s. You can find it on google pretty easy.
Good video, you will do with the EuroFighter as well?
@@JFIESTASR Yes, 100% that one is actually in the works but I had something come up so it’ll come out a little later
You should do the video on the 27ea
@@ddogoo3749 got one in the works 🫡
Well, the new trailer is out and guess what😅
@@DumbThunder lol yeah, gonna post on that shortly
The Su-33 cannot carry the EA and never could until the Модернизированный program making it unoffically a Su-33M. The EA had the same seeker head as the R-77. The Su-33 carried the N001 radar, so I dont understand why you even said: It cannot carry other Fox 3s...but it can carry the R27EA?????
because basic research suggests that the aircraft did in fact carry EAs.
@ Yes after it has been modernized to carry the N001VEP. The N001 was never able to carry Fox 3 and the requirements for the R-77 are the exact same as for the R27EA as guess what…they had the same seeker head…
@@diaress and that is the more than likely variant we are getting. Considering what else we would receive. Therefore it will likely receive EAs as it didn't carry R77s.
@ How should a plane that was never used be added? The Su-33 Modernisation program was cancelled. Apparently you need to do your research a little harder…We really don’t need even more paper planes in this game
@ I’m sorry, but the SU-33 was already in the files, this video was simply to inform of everything they could technically GIVE the aircraft. I think the point of the video was misinterpreted here.
at this point, not just Su-33 even Su-30, F-18 even the rafale can be expected to add in any update so we are just gambling with decent chance every time they release a teaser because the weapons that equipped on them is already exist on WT. I think the Su-33 and F-18 will be released at the same time in an aircraft carrier focused update. For the Kh-31, since gaijin is taking measure with the CAS dominating top tier, i dont think we gonna see it anytime soon. R27EA, tbh forget about it in atleast a year since R27ER is still have it standing as one of the best missiles atm and i personally dont understand the hate toward R-77. the problem is just russian planes is bigger and dodging missile is harder than smaller jets like f16, a little less range than aim120 for the mobility 50g pull is quite fcked up imo
The problem is, R77 is more of a dogfighting missile (better at close range) but Su27SM is a superiority fighter and doesn't do well in close quarters.
The missile and airframe don't compliment each other.
R77 would be good on something like a Gripen or a Mirage, not on something like a Su27 or an F15.
I think it will come with R-27EAs but goddamn the Eurofighter will slam this thing, again Russia will have problems until the thrust vectoring comes in.
R27eas shouldnt come to the game. They dont exist and never existed outside a drawing. If they were added they would be easily the best fox 3 and that is solely because its a paper weapon.
Su33 wouldnt bring anything ti the game as russia doesnt have a naval airforce. So I t never developed su33 further
@thesupreme8062
5 were produced and fired/launched, but it did lose against the R-77 in development, but there is a big probability that the 33 never could carry the 27EA because of the similar seekerhead to the 77, meaning that you would need a radar capable of using the R-77 to use the 27EA but I've yet to find what jets were tested with the 27EA
As far as I can see the SU-33 was the only aircraft that did test the EA, otherwise it would of been a more modern SU-27 but either way it definitely existed and could be added as a unique weapon especially for a squadron vehicle.. as we see what it became
MiG-29KR/KUBR for Russia and MiG-29K/KUB for Britain are the cool naval jets. Su-33 is practically worthless
Nothing. It‘s useless and DOA
I mean, it may be, or maybe not.. who knows.