1. After hearing that someone who wants to make a Horcrux doesn't necessarily have to kill a human, I'm thinking, "They could've just killed animals." 2. Speaking of animals, I wonder if they were Animagi? Like, was Godric Gryffindor a lion? Helga Hufflepuff a badger? Rowena Ravenclaw an eagle? Salazar Slytherin a snake? Maybe that was how they picked the symbols of the houses.
The symbols: Lions:They are associated with bravery (i.e. Richard Lionheart) Eagles:They sore above others, just like how Ravenclaws sore above everyone else. Badgers:They are loyal?Idk with this one Snakes: Salazar Slytherin could talk to them and was likely a healer.
Salazar Slytherin left the school before he passed away. If you recall, in the Deathly Hallows part II, Snape's tears contained memories. isn't it possible the hat could be imbued with the memories, the essence of the four? Kind of like an echo of the four? if that was the case, the hat could see the essence of the student and the qualities that would match them with their proper house? Just suggesting.
Salazar left the school because he wanted it to be pure blood. No muggle borns. Why should he make a magical object that supports a system he can't agree with?
The founders might have likely been Legilimens and used the skill to sort students into their houses before the Sorting Hat was created. When the question was brought up, Legilimency immediately came to mind.
I heard that at some point that Salazar Slytherin might have passed on the ability of Legilimency to the hat because he was a Legilimens, and I wouldn't be surprised if the others were too.
He sing every single year, Harry just isn't always present so we don't get the song as readers. Also. A horxrux is specifically called dark magic. It splits your soul to make you immortal. The hat is not fing dark magic.
I think it was more likely magic similar to the magic of the pictures. The pictures maintain the personality of the individual and can carry on a conversation better than Tom's diary could.
I really can't believe that I didn't think about the sorting hat more cause it is really a very powerful magic and would be very interesting to know its history...
I don't think so, the Marauders Map is more a tracker, like HPF said, the sorting hat is capable of thought and can sing songs. The map, it just tracks it's the Marauders gps
My dear friend mr. Baker I honestly think this is a subject that has gone unexamined for entirely too blasted lawn there is absolutely no information Beyond passing references to how the magical portraits of Hogwarts and further in The Wizarding World actually are painted / Enchanted so thank you very much my dear friend for your comment and it is my deepest most fervent hope that someone will actually make a video possibly explaining how it's done even if it's just a theory again thank you for your suggestion comment and have a wonderful day my dear friend.
What if Voldemort fled the Ministry of Magic before Cornelius Fudge showed up What if Marietta Edgecomb didn't snitch on Dumbledore's Army What if Professor McGonagall didn't witness Harry catch Neville's Remembrall What if Snape died before giving his memories to Harry What if Professor Dumbledore made Snape the DADA professor and hired Slughorn in Order of the Phoenix instead of Half Blood Prince What if the troll under the trapdoor wasn't knocked out when Harry and Hermione saw it What if Sirius never saw the newspaper with the Weasleys and Scabbers
I know why Dumbledore never gave DADA to Snape at least and it sort of answers your question. The position was cursed and Dumbledore didn't want to lose Snape. If Snape had the job we wouldn't have seen him for long.
I don't think that a Horcrux is the answer to this dilemma. I believe that the four founders extracted memories from themselves and magically embedded them into the hat, along with perhaps an animation or transfiguration charm, as well as a preservation charm. To me, the hat is a magical AI, after a fashion, and I don't believe that dark magic like the Horcrux is necessary.
Much better, and more plausible than the other theory. Seems logical, and like something they would do, to make sure their school has students in the rights place after they are gone. Can multiple souls even be put in one item? I just can't see it as a horcrux.
The same could be said for Tom Riddle (who, as we know, was also a half-blood).I don't have a reasonable, ironclad explanation for this. Is it possible that half-bloods weren't an issue back then, since magic folk and muggles tended to segregate themselves willingly? I'm not sure, but perhaps the reason half-bloods weren't excluded from Slytherin House is simply because they didn't exist, and perhaps he, in his arrogance, never considered the likelihood of their existence later.
I also think it could be a sort of magical AI... and if thoughts and memories were embedded into the hat, sort of as a code, then it would run on each possibility and give the best outcome, even if there’s something that doesn’t match the list, the sum of characteristics would just be greater or better suited for a certain house. For example, maybe ambition and power have more weight than being half-blood, since a half-blood can restore the purity of their line by marrying a pure blood, and there are more pure bloods to match with in Slithering. That would also explain how Hermione didn’t end up in Ravenclaw, since maybe her “drive” to be brave and just were weighted as larger than her smart brain, because being smart is what made her want to be brave and just, and her intelligence was a tool for being a great Gryffindor... I mean... it seems fair to think about it haha
Plus, do you really think that no one in the entire discarding community including Dumbledore, snape, voldermort, the fifteen hundred DADA students or anyone else in the British could have noticed that this hat contains extremely potent dark magic.
I don't think the sorting hat is a horcrux I think that maybe the 4 founders of Hogwarts knew a different type of ancient magic ..magic that shouldn't belong to any witch or wizard maybe not dark magic just magic that no one should have learned or known about
The weasley flying car takes on a mind of its own do to the spells put on it. With a fom of memory and logic extraction or copy and the right mix of each of the founders beliefs I would expect the hat to be possible without horcrux magic. Just my personal belief.
I guess it's based on the founders' memories, mixed together to store all their beliefs, and it's inspired by the Pensieve, it just contains more memories from multiple people.
I feel like the founders may have given some kind of test, like a challenge and depending on how they overcome that challenge is what they base it off of??? Maybe? ❤️💙💛💚
Maybe they made horcruxes then healed their soul while still keeping the soul shard alive in the hat using really dark magic. Also I predict that Voldemort read that in his horcrux research
Harry Potter Folklore, could you please do a video of What If Voldemort stole The Philosopher's stone from at the end of Book 1 & Regained his own body & full power back?
@@HarryPotterFolklore Thank you so much. Also i think they extract & transferd thier entier souls into the hat, firstvia a Dementors kiss to extract them & then have another Wizard or Witch being the on to transfer the sould into the hat, that way if they die the don't go to limbo, but goes to the after life because thier souls har remanied whole.
After seeing in fantastic beasts what the stone truly does I don't know if he would regain his body like he did in book 4. I think it would be a much weaker version.
What if the type of magic used on the hat was derived from that used on the paintings dotted around the castle. I mean we see Harry talking to the painting of Dumbledore more then the actual living one. The hats consciousness might be a manifestation of the combined imprinted personalities. The hat seems to be able to utilize great and unbiased wisdom in general conversation. Which leads me to believe the hat having first hand knowledge from the founding wizards.
I never really thought about that until you brought it up. If I had to guess, maybe it was a type of magic that combined all their souls into the hat itself at the moment of their deaths. They did this in secret, probably enchanted the hat in some way to take their souls at different times if they all died at different times, and the spell may have evaporated or destroyed their bodies beyond recognition in case they didn't want their bodies messed with after their deaths.
I don.t think it's a Horcrux if you consider that moving portraits are a thing and those are not Horcruxes. It dose say that is made of normal leather but Wizards treat dragon leather as normal, that and some restorative spell wold explain the longevity. They probably had a more mundane way of sorting at the beginning but decided to create the hat so that they maintain a standard after they left.
"don't trust anything that thinks for itself unless you can see where it keeps its brain" oddly thematic in the chamber of secrets. both harry and tom riddle had an object that could think for itself without a discernable brain
Maybe... From my knowledge and theories about souls, four pieces of four souls could fuse together. Although since four halves inside one object would mean either they would become two souls or they would fuse into one soul with more powerful energy. Don't ask how I know this, I haven't done any experiments with souls for obvious reasons, I'm just going off of what I know from the memories I have from past lives and non-harmful research others have done.
I feel like with the amount of “Powerful Magical Spells” each of them had, they either put part of their “Essence” in the hat so that the houses wouldn’t be overrun by one house or anything! That or when they knew they were going to die, kinda like how the headmasters have their portraits, in the HeadMasters office that people can speak to! Something like that only instead of a Portrait, they put their essence in the hat! That would also balance out the houses because it’s all Four Head Founders deciding which house each student is in! That’s how I would do it (I think)!
I think the founders actually had a test to see what kind of magic the potential students were more Inclined towards and the intention behind it (plus they could have been legilimense). I once wrote an essay call god in a box were God gets belittled by people who claim to know him. It seems you have fallen into the same situation with the founders. These people built a castle filled with secrets and mystery. They also enchanted at least one artifact that has lasted for at least as long as the hat in much better condition (the sorting hat was described as patched frayed and extremely dirty so it was far from pristine). Yes Gryffindor's sword was goblin made but no one said that the other founders items were the same. All the items were imbued with powers that presumably match the founders values to a tee. The sword presented itself to the brave and valiant, The diadem was said to increase the wearers intelligence and both the cup and locket were said to have powers(doubtless it will be on pottermore). The idea of something taking on the same values as the founders actually is not that farfetched. I can see your reasoning but you forget the other items associated with the founders and you reduce their achievements by suggesting other more fanboy ideas. (I don't wish to knock you down in doing this as I like your work, but it does feel like a non researched topic that has been thrown out there) In short, there is more magic out there than just the ones present in the films and the hat doesn't have to be a horcrux for it to fulfill its purpose.
The breakdown of invisibility cloaks might have to do with the specific function of the cloak itself. We dont see any other magical artifacts that have broken down, some even thousands of years old. The book and quill that determine student admissions, the elder wand, the pensive, the veil. Also, as a side theory, anyone want to bet the primary ingredient in Harrys cloak is thestral hair? The elder wand, created by a pevrell, is thestral hair and elder wood, plus what creature has natural invisibilty in the wizarding world?
Each founder probably peer into the mind of the student when they were alive. I can believe that the sorting hat is some kind of horcrux for it to withstand time OR maybe the hat is maintained by some sort of spell invaded in the school like the room of requirement
If slytherin known about creating hocruxes then I believe he would have put one in the chambers of secrets. Maybe there’s more than one type of soul splitting spell that just got lost in time. Like they put some of their life force into the hat? Or if they all gathered around it on night and told the hat what they felt the type of wizards they wanted in their houses to be and to pick the ones closes to their ideologies.
murder- the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. although i do find your theory interesting. the fact that it says murder in the description for creating a horcrux, means that if it's true, they did kill a human.
I wish that instead of making the Fantastic Beasts movies that they had made a movie about the founders of Hogwarts. It would have been so much more interesting.
Super insteresting video Dean.I personally think that when the founders were alive they might have used Legilimancy to sort the students,even though,as you said,it'd be a bit of an intrusion of privacy...or maybe they asked them some selected questions and their answers would make them understand in which house they belonged...a bit like the Pottermore quiz😅I'm not sure though..
The might have gone through some kind ofmagical/none magical test/test's Where the students had to show their inner character and skills, and as a result whould placed Into their right houses suited for them . Or maybe they just used The hat from the very beginning🤔.
Honestly I cannot picture Helga Hufflepuff killing a house elf. J.K. Rowling knows the answers to all these questions. But I don't think she would bother to go into such great in depth detail on a story she wrote to entertain. There will always be questions about any story, but seriously why? The books and movies are meant to entertain, it's fiction, not real life. Sometimes there are no answers. I'm not trying to be a jerk and I really do love your channel.
I honestly dont see why you're surprised Godrics hat lasted.The founders bewitched an entire castle without those enchantments interfering with any magic done inside it. And that enchantments still going strong. I.P's cloak lasted a long time because it was enchantment by a powerful wizard, so no wonder the hat lasted with so many spells placed on it; Legilemens, a preservation charm, a spell to make it think, a charm to make it talk, and yeah, a unique spell from each founder that summed them up. Spell-not soul. Personally killing anything less than a human seems to Innocent to make a horcrux out of. Also i think it is to dark for any of the founders to agree. So were are they burred? Well they died over 1,000 years ago so their graves would be lost over time. When they were alive the most likely sorting method was an interview.
The sorting before the hat happened in a obstacle course type competition . where students with alike characteristics would be sorted into a house after showing the skills ( intelligence for Ravenclaw, bravery for griffindor , cunning for slytherin or meh for the others) and the sorting hat was a poet, singer /psychologist whose ghost got trapped into the hat, hence the singing and ability to psycho analyze the children. Just like a ghost can remain forever wandering the halls, it can live within the hat and give it " LIFE"
The sword wasn't used to damage the hat. Just touching the sword doesn't cause issues with the basilisk venom imbued in it, or else a lot of people who touched it would be dead.
1: They could have had a similar sorting technique to Ilvermorny before the Hat. For summary: A student walks up to them, then the founders think. Then they give a signal that they want that student. If two founders decide they want that student, the student gets to choose. 2: They probably did use a similar spell to a Horcrux, which would put a bit of their soul into it. But having 200% of a soul in a hat of four conflicting values would not be good. Maybe they just did what the four founders of Ilvermorny did and put their own value in it. But then again, you can't just create life, so they probably did a kind of life transfer, maybe with a Human that caused their variation of a Hatstall and was willing. The wear and tear of the hat as we see in the movie wouldn't really be possible with Horcruxes. It could just be taken out once every year and put to rest on a shelf for the rest of the year, as we hear about in the books.
I think we didn't think much of the sorting hat because it was introduced in the first book. At that point we were just getting usedto the fact that magic existed, and were exposed to a bunch of crazy magical things. It was around the 3rd or 4th book I think we really started thinking about how magic actually worked in the Harry Potter universe.
If you read the sorcerer's stone in the song the hat itself said Gryffindor took him off his own head and they put brains in him. So I believe he was already being used.
No. It was definitely sorcerer's stone. Go back and listen to the hat. Goblet of fire there was no song. The hat sang in the first sorting in sorcerer's stone.
There is kinda of clue in the goblet of fire chapter 11 when the sorting hat sings. A thousand years or more ago, When I was newly sewn, There lived four wizards of renown, Whose names are still well known: Bold Gryffindor, from wild moor, Fair Ravenclaw, from glen, Sweet Hufflepuff, from valley broad, Shrewd Slytherin, from fen. They shared a wish, a hope, a dream, They hatched a daring plan To educate young sorcerers Thus Hogwarts School began. Now each of these four founders Formed their own house, for each Did value different virtues In the ones they had to teach. By Gryffindor, the bravest were Prized far beyond the rest; For Ravenclaw, the cleverest Would always be the best; For Hufflepuff, hard workers were Most worthy of admission; And power-hungry Slytherin Loved those of great ambition. While still alive they did divide Their favorites from the throng, Yet how to pick the worthy ones When they were dead and gone? ‘Twas Gryffindor who found the way, He whipped me off his head The founders put some brains in me So I could choose instead! Now slip me snug about your ears, I’ve never yet been wrong, I’ll have a look inside your mind And tell where you belong!
Over the last week or so I’ve been thinking to myself that maybe one day that maybe JK Rowling just might write a story about the four founders of Hogwarts. 🤞 Then we will know for sure what magic went into the hat.
(1 & 2 answered here) Hats were a part of the Hogwarts uniform worn by staff and student. They may have placed a memory/ legilimens charm on the hat with a connection to the four being worn by the founders, allowing them to view how the student has made their choices throughout their lives. Then the connection between the hats could also allow for silent deliberation (and possibly questioning of the student) as we see the hat already has the ability to do. Once decided, the corresponding founder could stand and welcome the student for all the school to hear. This process of memory screening and questioning could have been recorded in the hat like a sort of algorithm and then carried on for generations with only the addition of a transfiguration charm (McGonagall's chess set) and a charm of unbreaking/ unwaring (Hermione's jar for Rita 4th book). (These charms could have been placed during the original sortings so the hat could say the final choice, allowing for a very similar experience that Harry had, and we know how much wizards love tradition and hate change.) The hat doesn't explicitly say he was magicked just as they were getting ready to die (the 4th book's song), just that the hat would be able to do their job long after. So the founders could have done this and had the hat learning throughout their lives as well. The exceptional duration of the charms could be due to the fact that they are the best of their time, just as the Peverel brothers were the best of theirs; if one wizard could make a cloak that lasts forever, then I would hope that the four could make a hat (also everything else in the castle is still magicked so they have the ability).
I think the hat was goblin made, making it last longer and possibly take in knowledge. Therefore all you would have to do is have the heads of house wear it impart there believes on the hat, and let the hat do what it needs to do.
I think that the greatest wizard to have ever lived, The prince of enchantments, Merlin, had help in the creation of the sorting hat. So I think when the founders were about done, they asked Merlin, master of magic to put a number of spells on the hat. And to answer the first question, I think that the founders had the students do some sort of test, a test that would test there attributes and what they value most. They could have used a boggart to do this as well, to test what they fear most and then upon what they fear is what house they get put in. That's just what I think.
Pre sorting hat: each founder gives a speech about his / her house (similar to the welcome speech Dumbledor gives each book) then they do, we’ll say, a sorting of Q & A with the students to find out the kids’ houses Edit: I don’t have any ideas for how the sorting hat was made and I don’t have a Twitter or any plans to get one... if I win just reply with (the hearts 💕 for house colors fallowed by the House animals) ❤️🦁 💛🦡 💚🐍 💙🦅
That’s one of the darkest theory I’ve ever heard and most brilliant, what could be more ironic and hypocritical if Gregory Gryffindor, the wizard we all admired, made a horcrux using the dark magic he dispised?
Each founder put a personality spell on the hat. The spell not only imprinted their personality, but also imprinted their memories and values into the hat.
@@lahlybird895 They were shouting instructions to Harry when he was learning to play with Ron's chess pieces. Also, the McGonagall's chess pieces communicated with Ron when the trio was after the philosopher's stone.
They might’ve used Divination to look into their future past and present like how Harry’s teacup showed a black dog (which was Sirius) in the third movie. It predicted that he would meet a black dog
What if the hat was kept safe with a spell? Like how the Room of Requirement is a spell and the spell how you can't apperat or disapperate on the grounds or in the castle.
Maybe before the sorting hat, the founders set up tasks, tests of character and interviews during the first 1-3 weeks of the first year’s first term of school to see how they preformed, acted and revealed during the tasks, tests and interview, to see which house they would fit in best. This would have to take a relatively considerable amount of time though, (like I said at least 1-3 weeks) and they decided to create the sorting hat so that the students could get right into learning magic strait away instead of spending weeks figuring out what house the belong in and allow them to settle into their house quicker, plus they would have had to have a seperate area for all the first years to live out of until they were placed in their house and moved to their house’s common room and dormitory.
I’m late but I have a theory. On the way to the great hall the students are faced with a challenge. Just a simple challenge, and the way they problem solve will determine they’re house.
Maybe before they started using the Sorting Hat they used Veritaserum then asked each student individually a series of questions then sorted them according to how they answered based on what each of the founders valued in the students in their respective houses.
I feel the magic that created the sorting hat is similar to the magic in the magic portraits, maybe a variation of it. Animating the hat just as they would with the portrait and each headmaster and headmistress taking their time in a locked room, teaching it their characteristics of each house.
I'm not sure if I missed this part or not but the sorting hat has some sentience pretty much, it's capable of speaking and show some facial expressions. Having it be a Horcrux would explain how it's lasted so long and how it manages to sort the children into the houses, however I don't think it truly explains the sentience of it. Saying that there could be a number of spells on it including a horcrux but I'm not sure, it's just a thought. This was a really good theory btw, I never thought of this before.
I think a similar item was used to the sorting hat but had to be changed at some point through out their time there and the hat clearly has its own personality so I think the hat and a loving animal were combined somewhere in the hats history on top of the founders spells as well as the preservation charm.
How they sorted before the hat could be the following: Salazar: Could just check out the child's lineage. Check out thier parent's heritage or status and parent's parents and who or what they are. Griffindor: can give them a task that required them the child to show how brave they are, and how they will show thier concept of honor. Ravenclaw: can give them a test a paper test to see who is smart and wanting to learn more info. The children that shows more wellness to learn. As I noticed that the students who are in Ravenclaw have these tendencies regardless of how smart they actually are. Hufflepuff: since this house accepts all students and those that are loyal and such. Will take all the children that do not meet any of the above criteria or all the other requirements that the other three founders will take. And she wanted to teach every child. At the start of the school year the founders could do these tests or even before the school year started. Especially in Salazar's case. This one will not even need a test all the child needs to bring in is thier family tree and proof of Magic status. As for Ravenclaw and Griffindor the tests could be done prior to enrollment. And Hufflepuff is more open more inclusive she will take the rest the day they get to Hogwarts.
Godric: "Are you brave?"
Rowena: "Are you smart?"
Salazar: "Are you pure-blood?"
Helga: "Are you hungry?"
U got me with Helga Hufflepuff
Dont you mean loyal for Helga?
Jeez no need to be dramatic ok
Yeah you
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Has no one made the assumption that the founders were lazy so they made the hat to do their job for them?
really good point!
Who is your favourite teacher at Hogwarts
Lol that's amazing
@@HarryPotterFolklore yo are you Irish
@@HarryPotterFolklore you sound irish
1. After hearing that someone who wants to make a Horcrux doesn't necessarily have to kill a human, I'm thinking, "They could've just killed animals."
2. Speaking of animals, I wonder if they were Animagi? Like, was Godric Gryffindor a lion? Helga Hufflepuff a badger? Rowena Ravenclaw an eagle? Salazar Slytherin a snake? Maybe that was how they picked the symbols of the houses.
Animagus. Great idea indeed.
Slytherin could talk to snakes so
@@brianmccann666 Thanks.
The symbols:
Lions:They are associated with bravery (i.e. Richard Lionheart)
Eagles:They sore above others, just like how Ravenclaws sore above everyone else.
Badgers:They are loyal?Idk with this one
Snakes: Salazar Slytherin could talk to them and was likely a healer.
That’s Brilliant!
Salazar Slytherin left the school before he passed away. If you recall, in the Deathly Hallows part II, Snape's tears contained memories. isn't it possible the hat could be imbued with the memories, the essence of the four? Kind of like an echo of the four? if that was the case, the hat could see the essence of the student and the qualities that would match them with their proper house? Just suggesting.
Ooh, I like that explanation a LOT better!! Great idea!! :D
Salazar left the school because he wanted it to be pure blood. No muggle borns. Why should he make a magical object that supports a system he can't agree with?
Possibly they switched to the sorting hat not at the absolute end of their time there.
Sounds logical.
The portraits in Dumbledore's office could hold conversations and make decisions. It could be something like that.
The founders might have likely been Legilimens and used the skill to sort students into their houses before the Sorting Hat was created. When the question was brought up, Legilimency immediately came to mind.
I heard that at some point that Salazar Slytherin might have passed on the ability of Legilimency to the hat because he was a Legilimens, and I wouldn't be surprised if the others were too.
Aww I was gonna say that! Totally agree though.
Laila Autumn that makes sense I mean look at his descendents; they're a natural at it!
So they'd basically perform a joint legilimen type magic at every initiation ceremony? That'd be either epic or terrifying to witness.
Imagine if it was real and a very powerful wizard mastered occulemency before he came to Hogwarts
In one of its songs the hat says "the founders put some brains in me".
From what year? The hat only sings once, in Harry's first year
@@gidzmobug2323 I believe it was Harry's first year and the hat also sings in his fourth and fifth years.
The hat sings every year we/Harry only hear the song three times
He sing every single year, Harry just isn't always present so we don't get the song as readers. Also. A horxrux is specifically called dark magic. It splits your soul to make you immortal. The hat is not fing dark magic.
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I think it was more likely magic similar to the magic of the pictures. The pictures maintain the personality of the individual and can carry on a conversation better than Tom's diary could.
I really can't believe that I didn't think about the sorting hat more cause it is really a very powerful magic and would be very interesting to know its history...
By that logic, the Marauders‘ Map would need to be a Horcrux, too, which is unlikely since James was killed.
It could've been a blood pact
I don't think so, the Marauders Map is more a tracker, like HPF said, the sorting hat is capable of thought and can sing songs. The map, it just tracks it's the Marauders gps
@Agnish Roy It doesn't have a voice, but it can communicate with people. It insulted Snape when he was trying to find out what it was.
@@karsten69 Maybe it was programmed to. The Marauders were known to have beef with Snape right?
What about "How are the Portraits made with life and personality?"
My dear friend mr. Baker I honestly think this is a subject that has gone unexamined for entirely too blasted lawn there is absolutely no information Beyond passing references to how the magical portraits of Hogwarts and further in The Wizarding World actually are painted / Enchanted so thank you very much my dear friend for your comment and it is my deepest most fervent hope that someone will actually make a video possibly explaining how it's done even if it's just a theory again thank you for your suggestion comment and have a wonderful day my dear friend.
Maybe their version of professor trelawney did the sorting, maybe that person WAS who the hat became... 🤔
Yes maybe
Hmmm probably
Really?
You mean like a non-failure version of trelawney though?
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An another "No failure Version"?
I felt that the Sorting Hat, was a person that had been transfigured into the hat.
Pup314 that sounds more sinister than it being a horcrux
@@benjaminacuna8013 true
Then thats going against the books. Its gryffindors hat and the founders put the smarts in him. So it couldnt be a human.
@@AzraelStCloudlive and IF it WAS a human how could it read the minds of the students then?
@Fading Lemønzy oh
What if Voldemort fled the Ministry of Magic before Cornelius Fudge showed up
What if Marietta Edgecomb didn't snitch on Dumbledore's Army
What if Professor McGonagall didn't witness Harry catch Neville's Remembrall
What if Snape died before giving his memories to Harry
What if Professor Dumbledore made Snape the DADA professor and hired Slughorn in Order of the Phoenix instead of Half Blood Prince
What if the troll under the trapdoor wasn't knocked out when Harry and Hermione saw it
What if Sirius never saw the newspaper with the Weasleys and Scabbers
wow.... this is getting darker every moment......
What if voldemort didnt kill Harry's parents..
I know why Dumbledore never gave DADA to Snape at least and it sort of answers your question. The position was cursed and Dumbledore didn't want to lose Snape. If Snape had the job we wouldn't have seen him for long.
What if frodo couldnt toss the ring into the mount doom
in order of the phoenix dumbledore couldn't choose who taught DADA
I don't think that a Horcrux is the answer to this dilemma.
I believe that the four founders extracted memories from themselves and magically embedded them into the hat, along with perhaps an animation or transfiguration charm, as well as a preservation charm.
To me, the hat is a magical AI, after a fashion, and I don't believe that dark magic like the Horcrux is necessary.
Much better, and more plausible than the other theory.
Seems logical, and like something they would do, to make sure their school has students in the rights place after they are gone.
Can multiple souls even be put in one item?
I just can't see it as a horcrux.
If that's true, why would Slytherin's soul allow Halfbloods like Snape into his house?
The same could be said for Tom Riddle (who, as we know, was also a half-blood).I don't have a reasonable, ironclad explanation for this.
Is it possible that half-bloods weren't an issue back then, since magic folk and muggles tended to segregate themselves willingly? I'm not sure, but perhaps the reason half-bloods weren't excluded from Slytherin House is simply because they didn't exist, and perhaps he, in his arrogance, never considered the likelihood of their existence later.
I also think it could be a sort of magical AI... and if thoughts and memories were embedded into the hat, sort of as a code, then it would run on each possibility and give the best outcome, even if there’s something that doesn’t match the list, the sum of characteristics would just be greater or better suited for a certain house.
For example, maybe ambition and power have more weight than being half-blood, since a half-blood can restore the purity of their line by marrying a pure blood, and there are more pure bloods to match with in Slithering.
That would also explain how Hermione didn’t end up in Ravenclaw, since maybe her “drive” to be brave and just were weighted as larger than her smart brain, because being smart is what made her want to be brave and just, and her intelligence was a tool for being a great Gryffindor...
I mean... it seems fair to think about it haha
Plus, do you really think that no one in the entire discarding community including Dumbledore, snape, voldermort, the fifteen hundred DADA students or anyone else in the British could have noticed that this hat contains extremely potent dark magic.
Could be a rare piece of magic that each Headmaster has to chant each day or even once a year to keep the Hat active.😎
I don't think the sorting hat is a horcrux I think that maybe the 4 founders of Hogwarts knew a different type of ancient magic ..magic that shouldn't belong to any witch or wizard maybe not dark magic just magic that no one should have learned or known about
Ye ye
Finally, some people with some sense in this comment section
I don't know
The weasley flying car takes on a mind of its own do to the spells put on it.
With a fom of memory and logic extraction or copy and the right mix of each of the founders beliefs I would expect the hat to be possible without horcrux magic.
Just my personal belief.
It's a good personal belief
I guess it's based on the founders' memories, mixed together to store all their beliefs, and it's inspired by the Pensieve, it just contains more memories from multiple people.
I can totally imagine a sitcom on the founders living in the hat.
Lol 🤣
what if harry potter left hogwarts to be a pro quidditch player?
What if he went to grindelwalds school?
Why would he go to durmstrang
@@Truth72500 Its a pure blood only school
The what if Harry became a Pro-Quidditch Player is a great theory/idea to explore.
Neh
The founders checked their wands. Since each wand chooses the wizard, the wand innately knows what kind of person best fits it.
I feel like the founders may have given some kind of test, like a challenge and depending on how they overcome that challenge is what they base it off of??? Maybe? ❤️💙💛💚
Hermione learned spells, Fred told Ron it hurts a lot
I like challenges so obviously I'm a Gryffindor! ♥️🔥♥️
Ok, if the sorting hat is a horcrux, how could it contain the Sword of Gryffindor?
Because the sword destroys horcruxes
only because the venom of the basilisk coats it.
@@crispysatyr0355 but the hat still held the sword when Neville found it, which was after it got covered in basilisk venom
Well it never touched the hats fabric where the horcrux would be and it was coated in basilisk venom that kills horcrux Ed rather than the sword
Like the soul is in you not out side or in your body thoug
@@naturephoenix1592 ok, that makes sense
If I were sorting students, I would create a "Tri-wizard cup" hedge maze and sort the children on how they complete it..
Maybe they made horcruxes then healed their soul while still keeping the soul shard alive in the hat using really dark magic. Also I predict that Voldemort read that in his horcrux research
Nah a soul will never heal it will scar.
Or maybe murder if to eat or put an animal out of its misery doesn't effect the soul cause it's not done in a cruel manner
Harry Potter Folklore, could you please do a video of What If Voldemort stole The Philosopher's stone from at the end of Book 1 & Regained his own body & full power back?
yeah sure I'll add it to the list
@@HarryPotterFolklore Thank you so much. Also i think they extract & transferd thier entier souls into the hat, firstvia a Dementors kiss to extract them & then have another Wizard or Witch being the on to transfer the sould into the hat, that way if they die the don't go to limbo, but goes to the after life because thier souls har remanied whole.
OMEGALPHALICORN PRIMUNSICRON That’s a pretty good idea.
After seeing in fantastic beasts what the stone truly does I don't know if he would regain his body like he did in book 4. I think it would be a much weaker version.
So... Harry Potters second year, he needs to fight a Basilisk AND a full power Voldemort? RIP
7:00 the definition of murder says it has to be human as murder means "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."
What if the type of magic used on the hat was derived from that used on the paintings dotted around the castle.
I mean we see Harry talking to the painting of Dumbledore more then the actual living one. The hats consciousness might be a manifestation of the combined imprinted personalities.
The hat seems to be able to utilize great and unbiased wisdom in general conversation. Which leads me to believe the hat having first hand knowledge from the founding wizards.
I never really thought about that until you brought it up. If I had to guess, maybe it was a type of magic that combined all their souls into the hat itself at the moment of their deaths. They did this in secret, probably enchanted the hat in some way to take their souls at different times if they all died at different times, and the spell may have evaporated or destroyed their bodies beyond recognition in case they didn't want their bodies messed with after their deaths.
I don.t think it's a Horcrux if you consider that moving portraits are a thing and those are not Horcruxes. It dose say that is made of normal leather but Wizards treat dragon leather as normal, that and some restorative spell wold explain the longevity.
They probably had a more mundane way of sorting at the beginning but decided to create the hat so that they maintain a standard after they left.
Does that mean the 4 founders knew 3D printing??? 🙃
@@mermazing1672 Cup a soup
"don't trust anything that thinks for itself unless you can see where it keeps its brain"
oddly thematic in the chamber of secrets. both harry and tom riddle had an object that could think for itself without a discernable brain
So dose this mean the pices of the founders merge into one Soul?
Maybe... From my knowledge and theories about souls, four pieces of four souls could fuse together. Although since four halves inside one object would mean either they would become two souls or they would fuse into one soul with more powerful energy. Don't ask how I know this, I haven't done any experiments with souls for obvious reasons, I'm just going off of what I know from the memories I have from past lives and non-harmful research others have done.
I feel like with the amount of “Powerful Magical Spells” each of them had, they either put part of their “Essence” in the hat so that the houses wouldn’t be overrun by one house or anything! That or when they knew they were going to die, kinda like how the headmasters have their portraits, in the HeadMasters office that people can speak to! Something like that only instead of a Portrait, they put their essence in the hat! That would also balance out the houses because it’s all Four Head Founders deciding which house each student is in! That’s how I would do it (I think)!
I think the founders actually had a test to see what kind of magic the potential students were more Inclined towards and the intention behind it (plus they could have been legilimense).
I once wrote an essay call god in a box were God gets belittled by people who claim to know him. It seems you have fallen into the same situation with the founders. These people built a castle filled with secrets and mystery. They also enchanted at least one artifact that has lasted for at least as long as the hat in much better condition (the sorting hat was described as patched frayed and extremely dirty so it was far from pristine). Yes Gryffindor's sword was goblin made but no one said that the other founders items were the same. All the items were imbued with powers that presumably match the founders values to a tee. The sword presented itself to the brave and valiant, The diadem was said to increase the wearers intelligence and both the cup and locket were said to have powers(doubtless it will be on pottermore).
The idea of something taking on the same values as the founders actually is not that farfetched. I can see your reasoning but you forget the other items associated with the founders and you reduce their achievements by suggesting other more fanboy ideas. (I don't wish to knock you down in doing this as I like your work, but it does feel like a non researched topic that has been thrown out there)
In short, there is more magic out there than just the ones present in the films and the hat doesn't have to be a horcrux for it to fulfill its purpose.
I wonder if they have a anti head lice spell on this ancient hat placed on all the first years?
most likely
The breakdown of invisibility cloaks might have to do with the specific function of the cloak itself. We dont see any other magical artifacts that have broken down, some even thousands of years old. The book and quill that determine student admissions, the elder wand, the pensive, the veil. Also, as a side theory, anyone want to bet the primary ingredient in Harrys cloak is thestral hair? The elder wand, created by a pevrell, is thestral hair and elder wood, plus what creature has natural invisibilty in the wizarding world?
@@CS-mf5un maybe death added a notice-me-not spell for that just in case but i find it unlikely that it would have ALL the properties of a thestral
Each founder probably peer into the mind of the student when they were alive. I can believe that the sorting hat is some kind of horcrux for it to withstand time OR maybe the hat is maintained by some sort of spell invaded in the school like the room of requirement
The sorting hat is surprisingly A HAT I KNOW WOW
If slytherin known about creating hocruxes then I believe he would have put one in the chambers of secrets. Maybe there’s more than one type of soul splitting spell that just got lost in time. Like they put some of their life force into the hat? Or if they all gathered around it on night and told the hat what they felt the type of wizards they wanted in their houses to be and to pick the ones closes to their ideologies.
Maybe the hat is a transfigured wizard that was a specialist in occlumency legilimency
murder- the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. although i do find your theory interesting. the fact that it says murder in the description for creating a horcrux, means that if it's true, they did kill a human.
Godric's artifact is a sword, you find it hard to believe he killed someone?
@@daphnejyothi4795 In general no to make a horcruxe yeah
I never thought about this, I just accepted it and thought about other magical objects. Thanks for pointing it out
It would be safe to say, that let our imagination wander until Ms. Rowling discusses her explanation.
No, she will make snape transgender or something else that is stupid after the fact that she has already finished the book.
I wish that instead of making the Fantastic Beasts movies that they had made a movie about the founders of Hogwarts. It would have been so much more interesting.
Super insteresting video Dean.I personally think that when the founders were alive they might have used Legilimancy to sort the students,even though,as you said,it'd be a bit of an intrusion of privacy...or maybe they asked them some selected questions and their answers would make them understand in which house they belonged...a bit like the Pottermore quiz😅I'm not sure though..
2) it's hard to know because the only sort of magic is a potion called blathering beveridge (edit I don't have twitter
This is actualy one of the most interesting theory I've ever heard (and I've heard a lot). And it fits so well.
The might have gone through some kind ofmagical/none magical test/test's Where the students had to show their inner character and skills, and as a result whould placed Into their right houses suited for them . Or maybe they just used The hat from the very beginning🤔.
I think your theory makes perfect sense, The only thing I’m wondering is it possible to have four horcuxs in one item
1) Maby through tests to see if they complete the task cunningly bravely or witily
I don't have twitter
or...hungrily? lol
Maybe the four of them created a new spell that was given to the sorting hat?
Honestly I cannot picture Helga Hufflepuff killing a house elf. J.K. Rowling knows the answers to all these questions. But I don't think she would bother to go into such great in depth detail on a story she wrote to entertain. There will always be questions about any story, but seriously why? The books and movies are meant to entertain, it's fiction, not real life. Sometimes there are no answers. I'm not trying to be a jerk and I really do love your channel.
Hm as a hufflepuff I couldn't see that either
I honestly dont see why you're surprised Godrics hat lasted.The founders bewitched an entire castle without those enchantments interfering with any magic done inside it. And that enchantments still going strong. I.P's cloak lasted a long time because it was enchantment by a powerful wizard, so no wonder the hat lasted with so many spells placed on it; Legilemens, a preservation charm, a spell to make it think, a charm to make it talk, and yeah, a unique spell from each founder that summed them up. Spell-not soul. Personally killing anything less than a human seems to Innocent to make a horcrux out of. Also i think it is to dark for any of the founders to agree. So were are they burred? Well they died over 1,000 years ago so their graves would be lost over time. When they were alive the most likely sorting method was an interview.
I've always thought that the hat was given the ability to sort students into the house best suited to them because the founders of Hogwarts were lazy.
The sorting hat uses the art of reading minds, legilimency.
No, the 4 founders were the greatest witches and wizards of their time. They just used A LOT of magic in it times 4.
The sorting before the hat happened in a obstacle course type competition . where students with alike characteristics would be sorted into a house after showing the skills ( intelligence for Ravenclaw, bravery for griffindor , cunning for slytherin or meh for the others) and the sorting hat was a poet, singer /psychologist whose ghost got trapped into the hat, hence the singing and ability to psycho analyze the children. Just like a ghost can remain forever wandering the halls, it can live within the hat and give it " LIFE"
This theory is LEGIT! 😱
I believe that they did a quizz asking the students questions like what trait do you think suits you and so and so.
Hat cant be a horcruxe bcs basilisk covered sword comes out of it.
The sword wasn't used to damage the hat. Just touching the sword doesn't cause issues with the basilisk venom imbued in it, or else a lot of people who touched it would be dead.
@@darkamora5123 ok thanks for clearing this up for me 👍
1: They could have had a similar sorting technique to Ilvermorny before the Hat. For summary:
A student walks up to them, then the founders think. Then they give a signal that they want that student. If two founders decide they want that student, the student gets to choose.
2: They probably did use a similar spell to a Horcrux, which would put a bit of their soul into it. But having 200% of a soul in a hat of four conflicting values would not be good. Maybe they just did what the four founders of Ilvermorny did and put their own value in it. But then again, you can't just create life, so they probably did a kind of life transfer, maybe with a Human that caused their variation of a Hatstall and was willing. The wear and tear of the hat as we see in the movie wouldn't really be possible with Horcruxes. It could just be taken out once every year and put to rest on a shelf for the rest of the year, as we hear about in the books.
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I think we didn't think much of the sorting hat because it was introduced in the first book. At that point we were just getting usedto the fact that magic existed, and were exposed to a bunch of crazy magical things. It was around the 3rd or 4th book I think we really started thinking about how magic actually worked in the Harry Potter universe.
What if Tom Riddle got the teacher job at Hogwarts?
what would have hogwarts become
he wouldve thought the students to make a horcrux and every student would be immortal.
Scary thought
If you read the sorcerer's stone in the song the hat itself said Gryffindor took him off his own head and they put brains in him. So I believe he was already being used.
Actually I think he said that in the goblet of fire.
Definitely not sorcerer's stone, because I memorized that entire song
No. It was definitely sorcerer's stone. Go back and listen to the hat. Goblet of fire there was no song. The hat sang in the first sorting in sorcerer's stone.
@@teaunnarobinson2369 It Sang in Sorcerer's stone,
Goblet of Fire
And
Order of the Phoenix.
I memorized the entire song from sorcerer's stone.
Go read the book or watch the movie again.
@@teaunnarobinson2369 I'm rereading the series RIGHT now.
And the hat doesn't even sing in the movies.
Can you do a video on what if James and Lily survived and raised Harry?
may_t_1930 A similar video was done on what if Neville Longbottom was the Chosen One.
There is kinda of clue in the goblet of fire chapter 11 when the sorting hat sings. A thousand years or more ago,
When I was newly sewn,
There lived four wizards of renown,
Whose names are still well known:
Bold Gryffindor, from wild moor,
Fair Ravenclaw, from glen,
Sweet Hufflepuff, from valley broad,
Shrewd Slytherin, from fen.
They shared a wish, a hope, a dream,
They hatched a daring plan
To educate young sorcerers
Thus Hogwarts School began.
Now each of these four founders
Formed their own house, for each
Did value different virtues
In the ones they had to teach.
By Gryffindor, the bravest were
Prized far beyond the rest;
For Ravenclaw, the cleverest
Would always be the best;
For Hufflepuff, hard workers were
Most worthy of admission;
And power-hungry Slytherin
Loved those of great ambition.
While still alive they did divide
Their favorites from the throng,
Yet how to pick the worthy ones
When they were dead and gone?
‘Twas Gryffindor who found the way,
He whipped me off his head
The founders put some brains in me
So I could choose instead!
Now slip me snug about your ears,
I’ve never yet been wrong,
I’ll have a look inside your mind
And tell where you belong!
Over the last week or so I’ve been thinking to myself that maybe one day that maybe JK Rowling just might write a story about the four founders of Hogwarts. 🤞
Then we will know for sure what magic went into the hat.
Perhaps it’s a horcrux but the splitting of the soul was done of a different less kill-y method
There weren’t as many students then, so they just conducted interviews.
(1 & 2 answered here) Hats were a part of the Hogwarts uniform worn by staff and student. They may have placed a memory/ legilimens charm on the hat with a connection to the four being worn by the founders, allowing them to view how the student has made their choices throughout their lives. Then the connection between the hats could also allow for silent deliberation (and possibly questioning of the student) as we see the hat already has the ability to do. Once decided, the corresponding founder could stand and welcome the student for all the school to hear. This process of memory screening and questioning could have been recorded in the hat like a sort of algorithm and then carried on for generations with only the addition of a transfiguration charm (McGonagall's chess set) and a charm of unbreaking/ unwaring (Hermione's jar for Rita 4th book). (These charms could have been placed during the original sortings so the hat could say the final choice, allowing for a very similar experience that Harry had, and we know how much wizards love tradition and hate change.) The hat doesn't explicitly say he was magicked just as they were getting ready to die (the 4th book's song), just that the hat would be able to do their job long after. So the founders could have done this and had the hat learning throughout their lives as well. The exceptional duration of the charms could be due to the fact that they are the best of their time, just as the Peverel brothers were the best of theirs; if one wizard could make a cloak that lasts forever, then I would hope that the four could make a hat (also everything else in the castle is still magicked so they have the ability).
I think the hat was goblin made, making it last longer and possibly take in knowledge. Therefore all you would have to do is have the heads of house wear it impart there believes on the hat, and let the hat do what it needs to do.
I think that the greatest wizard to have ever lived, The prince of enchantments, Merlin, had help in the creation of the sorting hat. So I think when the founders were about done, they asked Merlin, master of magic to put a number of spells on the hat. And to answer the first question, I think that the founders had the students do some sort of test, a test that would test there attributes and what they value most. They could have used a boggart to do this as well, to test what they fear most and then upon what they fear is what house they get put in. That's just what I think.
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Pre sorting hat: each founder gives a speech about his / her house (similar to the welcome speech Dumbledor gives each book) then they do, we’ll say, a sorting of Q & A with the students to find out the kids’ houses Edit: I don’t have any ideas for how the sorting hat was made and I don’t have a Twitter or any plans to get one... if I win just reply with (the hearts 💕 for house colors fallowed by the House animals) ❤️🦁 💛🦡 💚🐍 💙🦅
That’s one of the darkest theory I’ve ever heard and most brilliant, what could be more ironic and hypocritical if Gregory Gryffindor, the wizard we all admired, made a horcrux using the dark magic he dispised?
*Godric*
Slytherin, Ravenclaw, even Gryffindor I can believe. But I can’t see Hufflepuff killing anything to split her soul.
Rowling has already shot this theory down.
I won’t be surprised, since both Riddle’s diary and the sorting hat both have minds of their own
What if it was a transference of their memories but not a soul...which would cause it to know everything that they knew
excellent
Each founder put a personality spell on the hat. The spell not only imprinted their personality, but also imprinted their memories and values into the hat.
Book Seven rejected ending: Godric Gyriffindor comes in and beheads Voldes head w/ his sword
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What about the Ford Anglia who came to help Harry and Ron? And the wands also work on their own. And the magical chess pieces gave advice to Harry.
the chess pieces?
@@lahlybird895 They were shouting instructions to Harry when he was learning to play with Ron's chess pieces. Also, the McGonagall's chess pieces communicated with Ron when the trio was after the philosopher's stone.
@@thegrimbird oh.
That's right
Easy they used the pottermore quiz
Always interesting to hear theories like these.
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They might’ve used Divination to look into their future past and present like how Harry’s teacup showed a black dog (which was Sirius) in the third movie. It predicted that he would meet a black dog
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I'm gunna say the hat has memories in it rather than a soul.
What if the hat was kept safe with a spell? Like how the Room of Requirement is a spell and the spell how you can't apperat or disapperate on the grounds or in the castle.
Maybe before the sorting hat, the founders set up tasks, tests of character and interviews during the first 1-3 weeks of the first year’s first term of school to see how they preformed, acted and revealed during the tasks, tests and interview, to see which house they would fit in best. This would have to take a relatively considerable amount of time though, (like I said at least 1-3 weeks) and they decided to create the sorting hat so that the students could get right into learning magic strait away instead of spending weeks figuring out what house the belong in and allow them to settle into their house quicker, plus they would have had to have a seperate area for all the first years to live out of until they were placed in their house and moved to their house’s common room and dormitory.
I’m late but I have a theory. On the way to the great hall the students are faced with a challenge. Just a simple challenge, and the way they problem solve will determine they’re house.
They were yhe greatest magical people of their age. They just used legimacy like we have often seen Quinni do
They probably had a placement test, something like what we saw the trio go through in The Sorcerers Stone
Maybe before they started using the Sorting Hat they used Veritaserum then asked each student individually a series of questions then sorted them according to how they answered based on what each of the founders valued in the students in their respective houses.
I feel the magic that created the sorting hat is similar to the magic in the magic portraits, maybe a variation of it. Animating the hat just as they would with the portrait and each headmaster and headmistress taking their time in a locked room, teaching it their characteristics of each house.
I believe it's alot of magic we've have yet to see
I'm not sure if I missed this part or not but the sorting hat has some sentience pretty much, it's capable of speaking and show some facial expressions. Having it be a Horcrux would explain how it's lasted so long and how it manages to sort the children into the houses, however I don't think it truly explains the sentience of it.
Saying that there could be a number of spells on it including a horcrux but I'm not sure, it's just a thought. This was a really good theory btw, I never thought of this before.
I think a similar item was used to the sorting hat but had to be changed at some point through out their time there and the hat clearly has its own personality so I think the hat and a loving animal were combined somewhere in the hats history on top of the founders spells as well as the preservation charm.
Imagine Hermoione's reaction to finding out that House Elves were sacrificed to make a talking hat.
How they sorted before the hat could be the following:
Salazar: Could just check out the child's lineage. Check out thier parent's heritage or status and parent's parents and who or what they are.
Griffindor: can give them a task that required them the child to show how brave they are, and how they will show thier concept of honor.
Ravenclaw: can give them a test a paper test to see who is smart and wanting to learn more info. The children that shows more wellness to learn. As I noticed that the students who are in Ravenclaw have these tendencies regardless of how smart they actually are.
Hufflepuff: since this house accepts all students and those that are loyal and such. Will take all the children that do not meet any of the above criteria or all the other requirements that the other three founders will take. And she wanted to teach every child.
At the start of the school year the founders could do these tests or even before the school year started. Especially in Salazar's case. This one will not even need a test all the child needs to bring in is thier family tree and proof of Magic status. As for Ravenclaw and Griffindor the tests could be done prior to enrollment. And Hufflepuff is more open more inclusive she will take the rest the day they get to Hogwarts.