Nigel Farage may regret Reform’s big election win | How To Win An Election
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- “It's 12 more MPs than Nigel Farage really wants.”
The How To Win An Election team find out who has won the election. Peter Mandelson is “an extremely happy boy”, while Polly Mackenzie looks ahead to how the opposition will take shape. Daniel Finkelstein says Nigel Farage will face a “battle for the steering wheel” in the Reform Party in parliament.
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Labour hasn’t climbed a cliff edge. The Tories have fallen off it. It was always their’s to lose. They did not disappoint.
Reform have climbed three feet up and are ranting that there's an elite globalist conspiracy to put the cliff upside down.
Labour may have gained seats in this election but their share of support is basically back to where it was prior to the 2019 election. So, more a Conservative collapse than a Labour tsunami.
Not so much a Conservative collapse but a Reform sabotage job on the Right wing vote.
Not really. There was a massive rise in the share of non-Lab/Tory votes. Quite simply, the small parties have generally done incredibly well, so there is simply fewer votes available for the big two.
Add in the fact that if the Libs had been second to the sitting Tory in my constituency, I would have voted for them (I'm a member of the Labour Party, btw) and I would have been one of millions who did vote tactically.
A win, is a win, is a win :}
That’s only because tories change the boundaries,
Lots of labour voters voted lib/democracy just to get rid of tories.
People voted Labour for only one reason thats to get rid of the Tories, nothing to do with Labour's policies
A VOTE FOR LABOUR WAS A VOTE FOR KHAN LAMMY ABBOTT CORBYN KHAN OR LAMMY WILL SOON KICK STARMER OUT MASS IMMIGRATION & ILLEGALS WILL FLOOD IN TO DESTROY THE ENGLISH RACE & CULTURE SOONER GOOGLE ELECTION RAID ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE IN MUSLIM COMMUNITIES SO NOT TO UP SET THE MUSLIMS
That's a weird analysis. Obviously they like Labour policies better than Tori ... do they have policies?
Exactly, they have no policies...
I agree, they only got 35% of vote. In 1997, it was 43%
More fool them. I voted with my heart - for the nation to survive and thrive, for us all white, black and brown Britons together, for the NHS, jobs and housing, for our youth, the elderly and everyone in between without the illegals. I voted Refom and look forward to getting it - eventually.
The Conservative vote collapsed and split
Labour won 32% of the vote and 35% this time. Also, a low turnout. The Labour party have a paradoxically extremely difficult majourity that could easily crash next time
Who cares? We have 4 Christmas's to enjoy before the next General Election. I wonder if Four-Seat Farage can attend more than a handful of sittings a year?
They did not climb they were given a leg up by the Tories 😂
They gotta make it through the next five years first
Wrong. 33.8% not 35%.
@@Test_Card_Tom "Five Seat Farage" thank you very much
For anyone looking at this with subjective eyes, the biggest issue for any voter of this election must be how unfair this 'democratic' 1st past the post system really is and how it forever favours the big 2 duopoly.
Just look at the numbers by actual votes alone.
Things need to change to be more representative of the actual democratic vote.
These people are delusional !
The Torys still dont accept they are finished these boomers are so thick.
I'm a boomer and I know they are doomed. So sad they are finished.
Hahaha!
13 MP'S? they only got 5!
The exit poll was wrong thankfully.
it will be interesting to see how much time Farage spends in his
electorate...
No one should be allowed to run for a seat in a constituency where they don't live and have never lived. How can you represent an electorate you've never met, haven't been part of? Dsgusting "lord of the manor" British thinking. Get real! The man lives in FRANCE!
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I'm sure he will be assiduous in attending to the single mums and unemployed of Clacton at his surgeries, and provide sterling help in sorting out their problems with housing benefit claims, Universal Credit and overpriced food banks.
…maybe he’ll set up office in a local pub
@@bikergirluk8059
One that doesn't serve milkshakes.
He has nothing to regret! And should be second in parliament am so pleased we had so many votes !
What on earth are you on about Fiddlestein! This is a threat to you and the likes of you! Well done Nigel and Reform!
Nigel the Nationalist who spent his post-Brexit time in the US extolling the virtues of nationalism.
We now get to see what a useless gobshite Farage really is. Nobody noticed while he was on the other side of the Channel as an MEP in Brussels. Now we get to see him close-up.
@@markussmedhus9717 Well the voters don't agree with you. What do you personally think he has done wrong?
@@Chiefmismaker
Peddling conservative grievance culture.
Are you one of the affluent few who actually benefitted from Brexit? Large Farge seems to forget his nation of origin is sickly dependent on trade.
@@Chiefmismaker Plenty. Promoted Brexit. Ignorance of global warming. Bad immigration policy. I don't think they have any other "policies.2
Peter - Nigel is leading a new party. He offered a contract. Didn't you read it?
and as usual like Brexit filled with people of no experience in governing When are you clowns going to learn
I did, it was a you can have your cake and eat it manifesto that would have made Liz Truss look intelligent.
The man who said Truss's budget was the best since 1986? Farage now offers you massive tax cuts (mainly for the rich, but ignore that bit!) and better public services!
Free unicorns anyone?
@@alana8863 Yes, at a cost of around £90 billion. He doesn't say where the money is coming from.
@@greghiggs5375Richard Tice has explained where the money is coming from many times during last few weeks, have you not listened!!!! CUTS the right places, cutting waste and rip offs by the banks raking in billions in interest etc etc, I worked in the NHS and gosh there is waste, would leave more money to pay our nurses and doctors and better patient care
Our Labour MP lives in London, two hundred miles away from a where the sheep voted her in!
Labour have no mandate from the majority.
Remind them of that every day.
The system definitely stinks but none of you minded when it delivered Boris and Brexit on around 30% of the electorate.
At that point you all said "you should have gone out and voted, then."
Well, we did. Looks like you should have taken your own advice.
@@nickstone1587 Clown. According to official election commission. 75.7% voted in the Brexit referendum of which 52% voted yes.
30%??? Go back to school and learn how to add up.
Mandy , no one is protesting !
Are you all discussing today's election?
NICE ONE NIGE 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Why the upbeat music , they should have been playing the funeral march.
Because Reform got a few seats? Indeed.
The Conservatives moved towards the centre and they lost?
Labour are trying to stop outdoor smoking now because it's a serious issue....Not!
DID Reform have a big election win? I listened all night on Radio 4 and I didn't get that impression!
Times Radio: The Blairite safety net.
It's Murdoch's Tory radio station.
You have to be pretty Right-wing to think otherwise.
@@alana8863 The Tory government has been Blairite ever since David Cameron.
Reform has a voice in Parliament.🇬🇧.Labour wont stop the boats.......
Nigel's probably not there to promote anything but himself. His opening speech was pretty solid evidence of that. Everyone else managed to be kind and gracious, but he got straight on with his little act. It looked pathetic in the context of every other speech but, naturally, GBeebies trimmed it from that context. It worked.
@@nickstone1587 he just tells it like it is. This country needs a wake up call and I believe the Reform party will provide that.
@@HazelBulyka maybe twenty years ago I'd have agreed - but in the interim he's proved himself to be no better than any of the others. He's not interested in fixing anything. He reminds me of that old Harry Enfield character who'd just sit to the side saying "you don't wanna do it like that!"
Let's see how Starmer pans out. I like that he's put experts over politicians into cabinet roles. Dull is probably what we need, after a bunch of 'characters' dragged the country through the mud.
@@nickstone1587 how do you think Keir Starmer is doing now ? Have you changed your mind by any chance ?
This Station is on par with the BBC and LBC. . Extreme far left.
Peter Mandelson frendof epsteinon that island
Farage is going to have to do some work now as opposed to being a lazy grifter
That's the last thing he is. He's toiled for 30 years to promote his ideas, if he was a lazy grifter he'd have joined the LibLabCon Uniparty.
@@JupiterThunder I can't argue with your devotion to a charlatan
@@JupiterThunder
People who go against the grain tend to not do so well when it comes to building bridges.
Populism causes world wars more often than they make X country great again.
@@JupiterThunder Wrong. He hardly ever turned up to the European parliament. Just a wide boy.
He was retired , my Dad's retired , is he a lazy grifter , retir3d people deserve to kick back and relax .
You wish!
Reading some of the MSM quotes on here by people that can't accept a different point of view to theirs brings to mind the saying "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall"
The Times = cope
This is a typical view from an old school politician like Mendelson, who can't stand the idea that the country is fed up with the same old run-of-the-mill out of touch career politicians. The people want to try something different. Reform offer such an alternative and the Conservatives might just find out what their complacency cost them, but I very much doubt it.
People want to have their cake and eat it.
It's easy for small parties to promise this. Reality hits hard when you have to run a country. Reform are offering everyone a free pony and unicorn rides. I'm sorry, but give any economist those economic 'proposals', don't say that they are Reform's, and you'll be shocked at how economically illiterate the proposals are.
Farage praised Truss's budget as the best since 1986 (the Thatcher/Howe one). The markets were being asked to fund unfunded tax cuts. Farage got his answer. Time he was held to account for all his lies.
More fool anyone who simply voted Labour as a protest. You voted for high taxes and beating clapped out services into the ground. I voted with my heart - for the nation to survive and thrive, for us all white, black and brown Britons together, for the NHS, jobs and housing, for our youth, the elderly and everyone in between without the extra strain and pain with the illegals. I voted Refom and look forward to getting it - eventually.
Much good the leader of the Reform party did for the NHS.
Your crummy island nation would be wiped out by the common cold centuries ago if not for immigration.
Dribble
Why are we so vague on this immigration issue ? we have two options we control the UK immigration and the numbers or we don't.
The poltiical class are not bothered to do it, some have to admit they do not want to do it.
Until it does get sorted then REFORM will continue !
I notice that all Reform supporters know all the answers - and they're all easy.
The rest of us know that the fertility rates are so low that we are increasingly short of workers, the number of disabled and elderly are growing at speed and need care and health provision as well as income. The rest of us know that as climate change causes more flooding, droughts, and fires, vast numbers of climate migrants will seek to move from places that can no longer sustain them. So there will be even greater problems with those fleeing from those areas.
The rest of us know that Brexit enabled us to be unable to return migrants to safe countries (well done if you voted for it!), that finger-printing agreements and exchange of information with other EU countries was dumped by Brexit (well done if you voted for it!) and that far more migrants were going to come to Britain illegally once you ended free movement because of Brexit (well done if you voted for it!).
Fool me once, shame on Farage; fool me twice, vote for Reform.
Got to 1.49 of this stopped watching
A bit disappointed that Reform won any seats at all. Oh well, still a good result overall.
It was Reform that defeated the Tories, not Labour. Labour are still on the vote share they had in 2019.
Typical far left comment.
Moor lies !
Im a bit disappointed thought reform would done a lot better 😢
I think that's because there has been a lot of 'we can shout louder' making them look more prominent than they are. Hopefully though it will help form a case for a call for proportional representation. I'm no fan of Reform, but I would gladly see them get more seats, if it meant others do too. A big part of their success I think is due to people not feeling they are being heard, and PR would be a great way to fix this and our whole system.
First passed the post system is very flawed
@@PjRjHj Well if it's good enough for Belarus!
Proportionally seats should be Lab 220, Cons 154, Ref 93, LibDem 79. Green 44. SNP 16, PC 5, Others 39
Conservatives should have brought in PR when thy had the chance
Once labour mess up the next 5 years it's reforms to take
Traditionally the far right has a bad rap when it comes to the economy.
But it's gonna be fun to watch the brits flounder further.
No way.
The conservatives will have sorted themselves out by then or at least be an alternative if labour don’t do well.
@@shanghaichica Yes. If you read the Reform manifesto it will become crystal clear to you why they must never be allowed anywhere near the levers of power.
@@rogerphelps9939 yep they will crash the country faster than liz truss crashed the economy.
All the conservatives need to do is close our boarders and help uk citizens…they could of put THE UK FIRST in 14 years they didn’t …few more years reform will show how to make this country safe and great again
First off, it's borders and not boarders, so education has already failed you.
Second, what borders? Are you referring to that utter nonsense in Ireland?
You sound like a MAGA Repugnican.
Farage conned the public over brexshit, but only with massive help from the weak Cameron. You can con a few people all the time, but all people only some of the time!
Corbyn was the real hero of Brexit. His faint praise for Europe was epic.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Yawn yawn yawn
Farage didn't con anyone, the conservatives did and Blair's cons cost hundreds of thousands of lives, get real and do some homework!
@@antonoat 😘
Camp fest going on here!
BS.
England regrets Nigel Ferages' Birth
@raymondo6665 Aw Raymond.
@raymondo6665 Aw raymerndo
@raymondo6665 You giggled, dont lie!
Last night, France rejected toxic divisive politicians. Farage's brand of politics is old hat.
Quick answer: Trusting in the UK voting system
It’s an ironic twist when we have racists on the far right winning seats, and an antisemite on the far left retaining his seat. We couldn’t be more divided with racism as a common theme!
"Anti-semite"
Mate Israel is a straight-up apartheid colony state co-sponsored by perfidious Albion.
@lawrencenewman9941 Marx is ‘Far Right’ according to their own dialectic.
What are you saying? Racists have won the election.
Bahahahaha hilarious 😂everything is waycist bahahahaha hilarious 😂
The racists are the Islamists and their apologists and enablers in Labour.
Labour has inherited a poisoned chalice.
Labour has inherited a battered chalice - now they have a few years to fix it.
And it will start doing its work straight away. Within three months Starmer will be unpopoular with nearly everybody.
What a shame, Sunackers won't be able to hug Zelensky any more, the person we all know as a warmonger, one of the other reasons why Rishi regularly popped over to Ukraine was he felt good as he was taller.
Nigel was right, the US is instrumental in the conflict in Ukraine, they own over 40% of their land and are striving to own the rest, luckily Putin being a master of chess won't allow that.
You know Starmer supports Ukraine too right? 😏
We ❤ reform
Both of you?
Nigel hates you.
🎼🎶⚔️🎶 Nigel 🛡️
Farage 🎶⚔️🎶🎼