I’ve always thought the same thing. I even remember Owen saying that exact line to Jack and thought it was really interesting. Btw do you remember that scene too? I can’t seem to find it anywhere on youtube.
Deliberate quote from Classic Who? "Here we go again" used here when Owen is brought back from death, also used during the regeneration of Jon Pertwee's Doctor into Tom Baker's perhaps (in itself avoiding death)?
In this case, Ianto is referring to when Susie was brought back with the glove before and she drained Gwen. Ianto thinks Owen is going to do the same to Jack.
I' m gonna be honest, I did not like Owen too much before his death, except in Out Of Time. However, his episodes after his death were great. Particularly A Day in Death, Dead Man Walking episodes and the season finale :'(
its soo sad when Tosh is cryin n its all quiet. then... "Im really gonna need that hand back." that was brilliant. i remeba screamin when i watched this!!!
"I know what death is. Be brave." When they clasp hands and look into each other's eyes and Owen's sheer terror and Jack knowing what he will face, but knowing he'll (probably; he doesn't know that one day he will die of course, by the Doctor's side) never get to see it himself. Death. Nothing. It terrifies them both and the way they act it is amazing. Pure adrenaline and fear. Wow.
@@TheFallofTheEleventh though I can't find anything solid, I found a passing comment that jack knew about the face of boe and made a mystery out of it, without it actually being true. I also seem to remember finding something that said the face of boe (in the case that he is jack) didn't die, but that the body he was in simply stopped being able to function properly. Like how the daleks never die, but can become immobile (dalek graveyard Clara and Missy end up in)
i think that the gloves were actually meant to be used together, as on their own the effects are worthless pretty much. before i go into my theory lets recap what we know: the left glove brings the person back but they come back with death. then theres a whole thing about how death needs 13 souls to live forever in the mortal realm but thats not important for the hypothesis, and in fact i believe that is just the downside effect of using the glove on its own. the right glove locks onto both the user and the resurrected. the resurrected slowly drains the life force of the one that used the glove until they are dead and the resurrected lives on. the knife is used with this glove because when most people do anything it is with their right hand first, and as such the blade is both needed for and helps the resurrection to work. now heres my hypothesis of whats meant to happen when BOTH gloves are used: the dead person is stabbed with the blade in the chest. this would start the circuit off and be like a beacon of sorts for death to lock on to. the user of the gloves would then hold/cradle their head until death is summoned. death would then claim the soul of the one who used the glove and as a payment for the soul or as a trade off death would gift the leftover life energy to the deceased and allow them to live again, because the right glove only drains life, and not the souls. this would also i feel prevent death from going on an unhinged rampage since the right glove also locks the deal between the user and the resurrected, and would therefor only allow the soul of the user of the glove to be claimed. once the receiver of the life energy is resurrected they would remove the knife, the wound would heal and the deal would be complete, maybe with a final goodbye to the user before they part. but then again, thats just a theory of mine which i believe in but since both gloves were shot to bits and the blade was melted this theory cannot be tested in the show anymore, even if they still had the hub.
Well, my theory was that, The Timelords we're trying to make a way to bring back Rassilon, and the glove which they use on Owen is a failed attempt, which they chucked into the Eye of Harmony, which explains why it came through The Rift. The glove they mainly use is another one of the failed attempts, which only ressurects for a few minutes, or it could be the sucessful attempt along with the knife. Both fell into the Eye of Harmony after Gallifrey "fell". This glove could have been used on the Master, hence John Simm's return in Doctor Who. The gloves always seemed Timelord to me because of Rassilon's gaunlet, if they ressurected Rassilon with it, it seemed apt he would want to weaponize it. However I like your theory better as it gives a reason for the pairs. I always assumed that they weren't pairs because of the slight difference in colour.
the timelords wouldnt be so stupid to throw something like that in the time vortex or anywhere if the wrong person got a hold even the smallest amounts of there technology it could be devastating. they are a hermit race so much so even before the time war other beings thought they were just a legend rassilons gaunlet is a completely different tech.
How can people not see the love between those two. God Jack loves every member of that team and if had a choice he'd have them all (at the same time). And as far as the Owen being dead thing, if I've learned one thing from soap operas is that if you don't see the body then they can come back.
Dead doesnt stop people that died a very long time in the past from coming back through a tear in the rift. They can work her into the show again through time travel... I have watched all of the episodes up to children of the earth since Im in America we have to wait just alittle bit longer.
Jack: "Hate to say it but you'll get used to it." Yeah... Doesn't make the thought of it any better. Thought taken with the costs of immortality, I guess that is a drop in the bucket.
Just beacuse he's gone doesnt mean they wont bring him back. They have a rift manipulator. Tosh will probably make a few walk ons if nothing but flash backs for jack to remember her making something. They didnt sign either Owen or Tosh for the new season so hes most likely gone forever.
His weakness is that he is dead so while he is around and moving, he can't heal and none of his organs work. So he can't eat or drink and he has to be very careful because any injuries he suffers are permanent.
Best show ever!! Owens storyline in season 2 was kinda messed up though. It was sad when he really did die from the undead.. you know what i mean? Davies has mentioned they Eve Myles (Gwen) may not be returning for season 4. If that's the case i may skip watching it, Myles was the main reason i got attached to the series in the first place. That like is Jack dies- the show will instantly die too. lol
technically this does confirm theres an after life in the dr who universe. not a great one. your just in eternal blackness. but still an after life as owen did recall it.
He was shot at the end of an episode dealing with bugs. I dont want to give it away just so you watch that episode since it was well worth watching. Lets just say that he was valliant.
www.123movies.gdn/series/torchwood/ Don't know the specific ep since i've just started watching it (A little late to the party I know). Also, the odds of me finding a comment only a day old and having this link in another tab on a vid over a decade old...
@rocknroller1986 wtf? The only other surviving Torchwood member not going to be in the new season?? there is something wrong with that D: if Gwen isn't going to be there, they should at least bring Ianto OR John Hart for a usual. Otherwise, Davies is FAIL.
@@blaxxteam they explained that two pairs of those gloves came through the rift, now it technically speaking it's deaths gauntlet or whatever hell that thing was
they should sack john barrowman i think. captain jack can go travellin lyk he did @ the end of children of earth. torchwood wivout jack n wiv ianto n owen n tosh alive. might b excitin cos if they die they die - it wil b a more dramatic heroic battle everytym.
The man who can’t die and the man who can’t live was such an interesting concept, should of ran that for seasons! Imagine Owen in Miracle Day
I’ve always thought the same thing. I even remember Owen saying that exact line to Jack and thought it was really interesting. Btw do you remember that scene too? I can’t seem to find it anywhere on youtube.
"He's coming! He's coming..."
No one will convince me that John didn't take full advantage of those lines.
It’s a boy
Graciecorn he likes everyone
Graciecorn homophobic much 😂
Now I want to know what Graciecom said, LOL!
The way Owen does not have ANY patience for Gwen's lack of words cracks me up. "No offense Gwen, but I've only got two minutes to live!"
Jack's "Owen?" gets me every time. :')
How "whoa!" When he saw the gunshot wound cracks me up every time
Same here 3:06. If he were immortal yes jack he'd get used to it, but he's still dead.
Deliberate quote from Classic Who?
"Here we go again" used here when Owen is brought back from death, also used during the regeneration of Jon Pertwee's Doctor into Tom Baker's perhaps (in itself avoiding death)?
And in Deep Breath with Capaldi too !
In this case, Ianto is referring to when Susie was brought back with the glove before and she drained Gwen. Ianto thinks Owen is going to do the same to Jack.
not quite, with the classic era this came form the brig, and this will be the THIRD incarnation he will have to deal with, he first met 2nd
Thumbs up if your next destination is: "Tosh and Owen final scene", lol
Yeah I'm in a mood to torture myself this evening.
@@Banana_boat same :')
I' m gonna be honest, I did not like Owen too much before his death, except in Out Of Time.
However, his episodes after his death were great.
Particularly A Day in Death, Dead Man Walking episodes and the season finale :'(
Owen was much better in series 2. In series 1 he was a complete prick. 😂
its soo sad when Tosh is cryin n its all quiet. then...
"Im really gonna need that hand back." that was brilliant. i remeba screamin when i watched this!!!
MARTHA OMG .... *fangirls over Doctor who companions in torchwood*
I noticed that too.. part of me really wants to watch Torchwood..
"I know what death is. Be brave." When they clasp hands and look into each other's eyes and Owen's sheer terror and Jack knowing what he will face, but knowing he'll (probably; he doesn't know that one day he will die of course, by the Doctor's side) never get to see it himself. Death. Nothing. It terrifies them both and the way they act it is amazing. Pure adrenaline and fear. Wow.
Jack does die though. When he’s the face of Boe in the future
@@TheFallofTheEleventh though I can't find anything solid, I found a passing comment that jack knew about the face of boe and made a mystery out of it, without it actually being true.
I also seem to remember finding something that said the face of boe (in the case that he is jack) didn't die, but that the body he was in simply stopped being able to function properly. Like how the daleks never die, but can become immobile (dalek graveyard Clara and Missy end up in)
alan smithee Jack wouldn’t become immobile because he’s always healing. Instead, maybe he evolved.
And still a better love story than twighlight
Going to the dentist is a better love story than Twilight.
@@ingriddubbel8468 both doing anything and doing nothing are better love stories than twilight.
i think that the gloves were actually meant to be used together, as on their own the effects are worthless pretty much. before i go into my theory lets recap what we know:
the left glove brings the person back but they come back with death. then theres a whole thing about how death needs 13 souls to live forever in the mortal realm but thats not important for the hypothesis, and in fact i believe that is just the downside effect of using the glove on its own.
the right glove locks onto both the user and the resurrected. the resurrected slowly drains the life force of the one that used the glove until they are dead and the resurrected lives on. the knife is used with this glove because when most people do anything it is with their right hand first, and as such the blade is both needed for and helps the resurrection to work.
now heres my hypothesis of whats meant to happen when BOTH gloves are used:
the dead person is stabbed with the blade in the chest. this would start the circuit off and be like a beacon of sorts for death to lock on to. the user of the gloves would then hold/cradle their head until death is summoned. death would then claim the soul of the one who used the glove and as a payment for the soul or as a trade off death would gift the leftover life energy to the deceased and allow them to live again, because the right glove only drains life, and not the souls. this would also i feel prevent death from going on an unhinged rampage since the right glove also locks the deal between the user and the resurrected, and would therefor only allow the soul of the user of the glove to be claimed. once the receiver of the life energy is resurrected they would remove the knife, the wound would heal and the deal would be complete, maybe with a final goodbye to the user before they part.
but then again, thats just a theory of mine which i believe in but since both gloves were shot to bits and the blade was melted this theory cannot be tested in the show anymore, even if they still had the hub.
lordlossize GG thats a damn good theory
thank you!
Wait, that would work
Well, my theory was that, The Timelords we're trying to make a way to bring back Rassilon, and the glove which they use on Owen is a failed attempt, which they chucked into the Eye of Harmony, which explains why it came through The Rift. The glove they mainly use is another one of the failed attempts, which only ressurects for a few minutes, or it could be the sucessful attempt along with the knife. Both fell into the Eye of Harmony after Gallifrey "fell". This glove could have been used on the Master, hence John Simm's return in Doctor Who. The gloves always seemed Timelord to me because of Rassilon's gaunlet, if they ressurected Rassilon with it, it seemed apt he would want to weaponize it. However I like your theory better as it gives a reason for the pairs. I always assumed that they weren't pairs because of the slight difference in colour.
the timelords wouldnt be so stupid to throw something like that in the time vortex or anywhere if the wrong person got a hold even the smallest amounts of there technology it could be devastating. they are a hermit race so much so even before the time war other beings thought they were just a legend rassilons gaunlet is a completely different tech.
Ianto: "Ah, here we go again." *eyeroll*
xD
"You brought me back for that? FOR THAT!?"
Gloves may come i pairs, but its not a glove. Its a gauntlet.
Infinity gauntlet
Mark rios they were actually a pair though. The Sins of Captain John confirmed it
How can people not see the love between those two. God Jack loves every member of that team and if had a choice he'd have them all (at the same time). And as far as the Owen being dead thing, if I've learned one thing from soap operas is that if you don't see the body then they can come back.
"Can somebody hand me my pan-WHOA!!"
mega LOL moment!
King of the Weevils !
Lol that WOAH at the end!!!
Owen "WOW!" Jack "It's okay, I hate to say it, but you'll get used to it." :DD haha
Dead doesnt stop people that died a very long time in the past from coming back through a tear in the rift. They can work her into the show again through time travel... I have watched all of the episodes up to children of the earth since Im in America we have to wait just alittle bit longer.
Miss shows like this
Jack: "Hate to say it but you'll get used to it."
Yeah... Doesn't make the thought of it any better. Thought taken with the costs of immortality, I guess that is a drop in the bucket.
I’m still crying at that
We’re all talking about Owen here but did anyone notice Gwen take a step back from the glove when jack threw it by her. Nice little touch there.
Wolfy5079 She doesn’t know what stuff he did with it.
GadgetDoesStuff nah it’s because of the events of they Keep killing Suzie
lanto: "oh here we go again"
xDDD ahh classic!!
xx
@kachaxD1 gwen said "hi" and owen said "Gwen no offence, but i've only got 2 mins left to live!"
He dies in the reactor coolent that is leaked into the controll room. At least he dies with a friend.
Ianto, the discreet badass!
TheMarckoguy35 there's nothing discreet about it baby (nardole reference)
well, I want season 5 O:
Just because he's completely disintegrated doesn't mean he's dead.
Wow. Tosh is in tears at 2:43?
c0nfus3ds0ul she’s in love with him and always had been , she watched him screw around and it was never her
As I said, the entire series will be told in one episode.
Just beacuse he's gone doesnt mean they wont bring him back. They have a rift manipulator. Tosh will probably make a few walk ons if nothing but flash backs for jack to remember her making something. They didnt sign either Owen or Tosh for the new season so hes most likely gone forever.
that is SO true. and it keeps me hopeful.
The new season is one episode in five parts, it's likely they didn't have any space for Owen or Tosh in it anyway.
Must have been hard getting his body back from Illus.
kinda funny that the actor who plays owen also plays a character called Adam on the show Forever who also can't die. Coincidence? I THINK NOT
1:20 "you brought me back for that?!"
They are going to be longer instead of episodes it will be a mini series.
He's coming, he's coming followed up by AGHHHH
Oh I get it 😏
Him and Owen!
man this season wasted so many good characters who should have continued in torchwood
In the finale he's not dead he's just frozen
Still crying for him he was my favorite character
mental how theres been a typo in the description for 15 years
@Hooligan848 thats kind of the thing, rassilon seems to be wearing a similar glove, but it does something entirely different.
@magickal87 2 full 13 episode seasons, a 5 episode (hour-long each) miniseries was season 3, and a fourth season is currently being filmed.
His weakness is that he is dead so while he is around and moving, he can't heal and none of his organs work. So he can't eat or drink and he has to be very careful because any injuries he suffers are permanent.
the ressin mitten
is that Martha Jones?
Relapse yes
@islanumblar i don't think it was the same - they are opposites though - thanks for that its quite interesting - i wonder if there was a link
@TinaCohenChang dont worry the bbc have confirmed a series 4 for torchwood with jack, gwen and apparently, new characters
Best show ever!! Owens storyline in season 2 was kinda messed up though.
It was sad when he really did die from the undead.. you know what i mean?
Davies has mentioned they Eve Myles (Gwen) may not be returning for season 4. If that's the case i may skip watching it, Myles was the main reason i got attached to the series in the first place. That like is Jack dies- the show will instantly die too. lol
If the glove drains from the User isn't jack an endless battery?
Tom Williams Productions
That’s the right hand glove, the one in this episode features the left hand glove. They both have different effects.
Owen is like surprise bitch i bet you thought you seen the last of me
frankly, I'd much rather have Owen and/or Tosh back, but maybe that's just me....
Leaviel I'd rather have jones ianto Jones back.
Missy Fontana god no! Most crappest character ever
Rassilon agrees.
@islanumblar when is it there??
That since we did not see Owen's body at the end of Season 2, it's possible (although not likely) for them to bring him back.
Victoria Verney ha NO!! He was incinerated from the inside out
Dude...he was melted in a powerplant, the radiation probably turned him into goop or soup
Both gloves were destroyed so there's no chance.
Yes.
Which episode is that? Can somebody give me the name of the Episode?
Dead man walking
i was just thinking that too
Скажыте што ето за фильм
Who else thinks they need to put this show back on Netflix and hulu
@islanumblar when? what part?
technically this does confirm theres an after life in the dr who universe. not a great one. your just in eternal blackness. but still an after life as owen did recall it.
BAROMAN!!!!!
There is a spelling error in the description.
Exactly, nothing against Ianto but Owen and Tosh had way more potential than him.
Featuring Tom Holland as a boy who doesn't feel so good
He was shot at the end of an episode dealing with bugs. I dont want to give it away just so you watch that episode since it was well worth watching. Lets just say that he was valliant.
so how many seasons of torchwood are there for reals
Does anyone know where I can watch this? It's not on iPlayer
www.123movies.gdn/series/torchwood/ Don't know the specific ep since i've just started watching it (A little late to the party I know). Also, the odds of me finding a comment only a day old and having this link in another tab on a vid over a decade old...
what ? really, John wont do it with Gareth back? i dont think that's right, Plus i doubt they intended the new series to be all about gwen surely?
does anyone know what happened...
what season and episode is this
Season 2 episode 7 “dead man walking”
So... he's a walking corpse... just like Jack
lumberluc nah. The master before new who was a walking corpse, Clara is a walking corpse. Jacks more like the dude with an automatic reset button
Technically, yes... but technically no.
I mean Jack's vitals are still going as for Owen nothing is functioning
Jack is living forever, Owen is dying forever. Both immortal with a huge difference.
@doctorfigures it was martha.
how did he die again like who shot him or whtevvs cuz i missed this 1
0:14 XD
Anyone else think that the glove is VERY similar to Rassilon’s gauntlet? If it is, then that could explain why it can bring people back to life.
OWEN, I'VE FORGOTTEN THE WIFI PASSWORD AND YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS IT
promoted? wow
Which episode and season is this?
Couldn't he of done this for Ianto in Chilren of Earth??
Jessie Greenwood both gloves were destroyed
Oh damn that was poor lighting you can see his junk
I think we can blame Jack for that 😂😂
OH i thought that john and gareth wer good mates and wen i read ur fist comment i was liek was the hell has happened between them
@rocknroller1986 wtf? The only other surviving Torchwood member not going to be in the new season?? there is something wrong with that D: if Gwen isn't going to be there, they should at least bring Ianto OR John Hart for a usual. Otherwise, Davies is FAIL.
Did he say this in an interview? I tried looking it up, but can't find it. Would love to know the context in which this was said.
Eu Daniel digo interessante gostei
Só eu que tô assistindo esse vídeo em 2019 !
@Daisy123you2ube season 2 episode 7 I believe.
@RaindropsOnRoses113 XD
Where the hell did you get that from?
i wonder too. used by timelord, don't know if the gauntlet are timelord's fabrication but they're powerfull so how 1 pair can be on earth
@@blaxxteam they explained that two pairs of those gloves came through the rift, now it technically speaking it's deaths gauntlet or whatever hell that thing was
Florian Excoffier the Sins of Captain John recently revealed that the gloves were created by a human woman called Dr Magpie.
they should sack john barrowman i think. captain jack can go travellin lyk he did @ the end of children of earth. torchwood wivout jack n wiv ianto n owen n tosh alive. might b excitin cos if they die they die - it wil b a more dramatic heroic battle everytym.
:)
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