Fantastic symphony, there is a small passage in the fourth movement with very unique and strange harmonic progression, and the final part is very crazy !!
You should look at a Beethoven symphony. He writes 100 bars then repeats it, as just 1 theme in the exposition. I have a score video on my channel from his 1st Symphony, movement 1.
Well, tuba isn't included in the whole symphony, however those three trombones are enough to create a powerful and mood and complex motives within the rest of the orchestra.
Amazing how looking at the score I hear more ,get more of what Dvorak is doing see motifs, rhymes but I always tell students to listen first then go back with score .
Once in awhile, Dvorak leaves me scratching my head regarding his orchestration, especially in the brass section. Here, the 3rd and 4th horns suddenly drop out in the Finale - just where you'd think all of the orchestral resources would be put to use. Then there's the three rather than four (or two) horns used in the Cello Concerto. Following that is the one measure run of 16th notes in the trombones towards the end of #8. Lastly, we have the [in]famous 14 tuba notes sounded at the beginning and at the end of the second movement of Symphony #9. Can anyone else add any "oddities" in Dvorak's orchestral music?
@@cdiegorodriguez Including percussion instruments to only use them once in a movement or symphony is not that uncommon. Just look at Bruckner's symphonies.
That one 3-bar piccolo solo in #9’s 1st mov, the one really long held note in the piccolo in #8’s 1st mov, the 3-bar English horn solo in #8’s 1st mov, the short passage for bass clarinet solo in #5’s finale
@@cdiegorodriguez And he didn't even make clear which beat he want's the cymbal hit to be on in the manuscripts. Different editions of the scores put the hit on either beat three or four the of the bar in the finale.
This work does sound like the work of a gifted music student. It badly needs doing up and polishing. It has some good monents, though and it is excellently played.
Not every orchestra modernized their horn sections during this time. Composers around this time were still writing for traditional horns and valved horns at the same time.
I pondered still a bit about your comment. Why did you say this? I think, it's because this is not an easy listening music. It's very hard to "come into it". I needed 30 rounds of listening, till I come inside this symphony. After that, it squirred around in my head for weeks. 🙂
'rhythmical motif?' - so wrong. First of all, 'rhythmic' is correct, not 'rhythmical.' Secondly, it's MOTIVE, not motif. Motif is appropriate in decorating and architecture. And what are the 'experts' going to do about the adjective form? Motific ? Horrific.
'Motif' is correct. See the quote "The rhythmic motif may be defined by analogy with the melodic type: a short, characteristic sequence of accented and unaccented or short and long articulations, sometimes including rests" in the following Groves Music Dictionary entry: www.oxfordmusiconline.com/grovemusic/view/10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.001.0001/omo-9781561592630-e-0000019221#:~:text=Motif%20%5Bmotive%5D&text=A%20short%20musical%20idea%2C%20melodic,its%20identity%20as%20an%20idea
Shut the fuck up, elitist grandstanding prick. It's even more hilarious since you are wrong. Motif is a perfectly correct word to use in this scenario.
Aint no way dude wrote his first symphony at Op. 3😭🙏
seems you got some things to learn ... Beethoven's 1st was op 21
Fantastic symphony, there is a small passage in the fourth movement with very unique and strange harmonic progression, and the final part is very crazy !!
This guy writes a 300 bar 6 minute long exposition section, and then fully repeats it? Hahaha, mad lad.
Probably part of why it didn't win the competition it was sent to lol. Still a great piece, though!
It was left out in other recordings. I think it works better that way...
It's actually 278 bars
You should look at a Beethoven symphony. He writes 100 bars then repeats it, as just 1 theme in the exposition. I have a score video on my channel from his 1st Symphony, movement 1.
@@klop4228if this piece didnt win the competition, which tf did it then?
If Dvorak had written this symphony 25 years later it would have been a real masterpiece
The only reason it's not considered a masterpiece in its own right is because the other ones are even better, IMHO.
Well, the 1st movement its already a masterpiece ti self 🤩👌. The 2d movement also is quite innovative, don't get me wrong 🧐👌!
We know how crazy (in a good way) Dvorak was, when he have the corage to writte a Symphony as his op.3
I love the fact that he uses a big orchestra with low brass. Even if there's no tuba in the 1st movement.
Well, tuba isn't included in the whole symphony, however those three trombones are enough to create a powerful and mood and complex motives within the rest of the orchestra.
How is this the first time I've heard this symphony, seriously where has this been all my life?
Dvorak himself never heard it played, because the partiture went lost and then found when he was gone. This is my favourite piece of classical music
If I may ask you - how old are you? but still... the same!
Buried under the 8th and 9th.
Thank you for adding this! This has been one of my 3 favorite pieces of music for 30 years. Everything about it delights me.
What are the other 2?
@@tompatierno5606 Bach's Goldberg Variations, and Alkan's Symphony for solo piano
Dvorak’s pieces in general delight me. He is my all time favorite composer
Maestro Kurtesz follows the repeats. I love it!
Beautiful symphony, one of Dvořák's best!
Great recording of a wonderful symphony!! :-)
Thank you for such a good quality!
When you get halfway through the finale and it is interrupted by an 'adopt a donkey this xmas' advert. Sigh...
Well? DID YOU?
@@ImVee10 yep. 3 of them
@@justinradford4858 😂😂 🫏
They don't say much. Fanatical about hay. Each to their own I guess
Amazing how looking at the score I hear more ,get more of what Dvorak is doing see motifs, rhymes but I always tell students to listen first then go back with score .
This is too friggin
good !!!!
Among other things, the use of Neapolitan 6th in the exposition of the first movement really amazes me!
I've had the first few measures of movement 1 stuck in my head all week. Would be such a sick opener to a Marching Band show! (DCI???)
I know! They were quite original for the age the Symphony was composed.
Symphony No. 1in C minor Op. 3, B.9
"The Balls Of Zelensky"
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Jesus Christ at least have the decency to put the ads in between movements and not directly in the music!!! Unbelievable 👿
Once in awhile, Dvorak leaves me scratching my head regarding his orchestration, especially in the brass section. Here, the 3rd and 4th horns suddenly drop out in the Finale - just where you'd think all of the orchestral resources would be put to use. Then there's the three rather than four (or two) horns used in the Cello Concerto. Following that is the one measure run of 16th notes in the trombones towards the end of #8. Lastly, we have the [in]famous 14 tuba notes sounded at the beginning and at the end of the second movement of Symphony #9. Can anyone else add any "oddities" in Dvorak's orchestral music?
He includes a cymbal in the New World Symphony, and then has it play exactly one note in the finale. At mezzo forte.
@@cdiegorodriguez
Including percussion instruments to only use them once in a movement or symphony is not that uncommon. Just look at Bruckner's symphonies.
That one 3-bar piccolo solo in #9’s 1st mov, the one really long held note in the piccolo in #8’s 1st mov, the 3-bar English horn solo in #8’s 1st mov, the short passage for bass clarinet solo in #5’s finale
@@cdiegorodriguez And he didn't even make clear which beat he want's the cymbal hit to be on in the manuscripts. Different editions of the scores put the hit on either beat three or four the of the bar in the finale.
his whole Piano Concerto which can be considered more a symphony than a concerto! (but it's my favorite Concerto from Dvorák)!
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45:21 bar 271 to 278 missed timpani sound.
This work does sound like the work of a gifted music student. It badly needs doing up and polishing. It has some good monents, though and it is excellently played.
I think this piece sounds like Schubert would live longer about 68 years old to compose a symphony.
In the minute 50:05 there is a very odd progression
does someone know why the two sets of horns are in different tunings? Eb and F, dont recall seeing it before
Was quite common in Beethoven's time, but a bit outdated by Dvorak's day. Maybe he wanted to pay homage to that?
Not every orchestra modernized their horn sections during this time. Composers around this time were still writing for traditional horns and valved horns at the same time.
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Why this ads??? 🤤🤬
idk about this one chief
Uglyest symphony ever
why?
I don't understand why you feel this way. I love it!! 🙂
I pondered still a bit about your comment. Why did you say this? I think, it's because this is not an easy listening music. It's very hard to "come into it". I needed 30 rounds of listening, till I come inside this symphony. After that, it squirred around in my head for weeks. 🙂
I think Mahler 9 is worse
i think you said it because of the f***ing ads
'rhythmical motif?' - so wrong. First of all, 'rhythmic' is correct, not 'rhythmical.' Secondly, it's MOTIVE, not motif. Motif is appropriate in decorating and architecture. And what are the 'experts' going to do about the adjective form? Motific ? Horrific.
Did you maybe think about the fact that not everyone uses the English language daily?
Well... i think they're synonyms
@@jessemcree7311 not really. But okay.
'Motif' is correct.
See the quote "The rhythmic motif may be defined by analogy with the melodic type: a short, characteristic sequence of accented and unaccented or short and long articulations, sometimes including rests" in the following Groves Music Dictionary entry: www.oxfordmusiconline.com/grovemusic/view/10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.001.0001/omo-9781561592630-e-0000019221#:~:text=Motif%20%5Bmotive%5D&text=A%20short%20musical%20idea%2C%20melodic,its%20identity%20as%20an%20idea
Shut the fuck up, elitist grandstanding prick. It's even more hilarious since you are wrong. Motif is a perfectly correct word to use in this scenario.