I messaged Roger Linn one time suggesting he rerelease the MPC 60 and 3000 but as a smaller version like Roland did the 808. He told me that he is only concerned with moving forward. He pushes technology and is definitely on the cutting edge. I’m surprised that he messaged me back. With all that he has contributed to music and music production, it’s inspirational that he his also a humble and good person!
With a couple of geniuses like this, I was really hoping that this video would be more insightful as to why drum machines were designed the way that they were, historically, and why that changed. This is something that was touched on briefly toward the end of the video, but it was mostly just photos, demos, and descriptions of historical drum machines, which Linn straight-up admits can be found on Wikipedia and RUclips. With a legendary designer and equally legendary musician, I feel like there could have been a lot more insight into these machines. Thanks for uploading, anyway!
Lavish Deluna I think that is because the electronics itself was independent of the drum machines. The technology was developed for other reasons, or existed in other forms. Engineers just turned it into music gear. A lot of the synth tech came from telecoms and obviously was reused in electronic music as combining multiple oscillators you can then generate timbres and harmonics far more interesting than blips and blops. But I'd also love to have some videos showing the evolution of electronics vs music gear.
Funny how nobody mentions Roger Nichols' WENDEL, which in fact was the first sample based drum machine, developed in 1978. Listen to "Hey Nineteen" by Steely Dan, that's WENDEL in action.
I didn't know that Prince was using the Linn Drum machine real heavy back in the days. My dad told me that Prince played live drums on top of the drum machine to give it a fuller sound.
anybody know how to get high quality audio of this video? some of those old machines were captured really well and it would be fun to mess around with them
Did Mr. Linn mean "Elka" (Italian co. that produced early dm's/synths? Also for the record, the Chamberlin did not "become" the Melotron; the design was stolen by a Chamberlin employee who took the plans to England and began producing a nearly identical machine. Minor point but it bugged me. Great video BTW and fascinating.
Can anybody tell me which beatbox was used to produce "Jamaica Jerk-Off," a deep cut from Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road album? I actually was forced to play real bass parts on a real bass, so the bands I joined wouldn't need to hire a real bass player. One thing I wouldn't mind asking Roger Linn if I ever got to meet him is how amazed he was to learn that Jeff Porcaro, a drummer he actually associated with directly, used his products to assist him in his session work.
No Jerry, the mpc3000 predates the mpc20000 and was the first 16bit drum machine. And Roger is credited for the design of the MPC60 & MPC3000, Akai pretty much took his tech and "parted ways" with Linn.
I've toyed with all sorts of samplers through the years but none comes cleaner than the mpc except fl studio.But I veer towards R&B and EDM more than hip hop with FL. Versus when I'm on my MPC 2000 making the hip hop like Premier, Large Professor and Lord Finesse. Kool Herc gave us hip hop but Roger Linn gave us the power to be hip hop without limitations.
There are sooooo many forms of DAW's that have almost infinite vst's out there that are extremely well programmed that right now give fl studioa bitch slap by a thousand it's not even funny. FL is amature shit. When it comes straight down to hardware, LinnDrum, the Roland TR series especially the 909, the yamaha RX5, The Korg DDD-1, But I would say Roland took the cake for the variable dynamics with there evolution. I agree the MPC series is really good. All in all it's about how you feel about you're genre of music, the style and instruments used, the programming, arrangments that you choose to live by.
This is why dubspot shut down. This instructor had Roger Linn in front of him and embarrassed himself when he began speaking about his first drum machine (he thinks it was linn 9000) he then name drops the 808, hr 16 and interestingly lands on the sp 1200 and mpc 60; and says stop the presses; the mpc 3000 changed the game; and a picture of the mpc 2000 flashes across the screen. He then goes on to say because the mpc 3000 was an all in one production box. Roger Linn is then pictured expressing a “hmmmm” face. His explanation for game changer all in one production was being able to sample a bass sound and then playing them across all of the pads and then you can have snares, kicks, anything that you want; Roger politely stays quiet as the instructor realizes that his inexperience and lack of knowledge is apparent and then speaks about JDilla. So apparently this instructor couldn’t figure out how to sample bass sounds and play them across pads on the sp 1200 or mpc 60, nor add kicks and snares; it wasn’t until the 3000 that allowed for this. It was nice to see Roger Linn take us through the first iterations of drum machines and clearly explain what they did unlike the instructor. Sad to see this session go down in flames because of the instructor. They should edit his comments out of this video.
Met Roger a couple of years ago. I found him a bit off-putting when he said he did not care if JARRE used his "linnstrument" because he is "old". WTF??
Linn did not invent the drum machine? ^^ that's ok because I guess the guy that invented it is already dead and to Linn we can still talk and ask him questions :-D
one idea..a tempest,that samples..exactly like redrum,i dont care the price,ill buy it,if i was good with electronics,and mfgt'ing,on my mothers soul,id make one,and love it..give me 2 ins,two outs..5mins sample..
I messaged Roger Linn one time suggesting he rerelease the MPC 60 and 3000 but as a smaller version like Roland did the 808. He told me that he is only concerned with moving forward. He pushes technology and is definitely on the cutting edge. I’m surprised that he messaged me back. With all that he has contributed to music and music production, it’s inspirational that he his also a humble and good person!
This is the best video for drum machine history and stuff i've ever seen :)
11:56 The perfect song to put a exclamation on Roger Linn's influence in the music industry.
As an animal who loves striking curious poses, I couldn't agree more.
Roger Changed the whole Paradigm with the introduction of the MPC.
I loved it they were using one of my older drum videos at 6:03, that's awesome :-)
Man, If it wasnt for this dude...I dont know what i'll be doin. Peace Roger! - Logikbomb (DC Producer)
Very true about the layout of the pads effecting how its used
Perfect video, helped me get ideas for my essay for my degree!
With a couple of geniuses like this, I was really hoping that this video would be more insightful as to why drum machines were designed the way that they were, historically, and why that changed. This is something that was touched on briefly toward the end of the video, but it was mostly just photos, demos, and descriptions of historical drum machines, which Linn straight-up admits can be found on Wikipedia and RUclips. With a legendary designer and equally legendary musician, I feel like there could have been a lot more insight into these machines. Thanks for uploading, anyway!
Lavish Deluna I think that is because the electronics itself was independent of the drum machines. The technology was developed for other reasons, or existed in other forms. Engineers just turned it into music gear. A lot of the synth tech came from telecoms and obviously was reused in electronic music as combining multiple oscillators you can then generate timbres and harmonics far more interesting than blips and blops. But I'd also love to have some videos showing the evolution of electronics vs music gear.
thanks dubspot. always sharing. love you guys
Amazing thank you roger for all your work
Funny how nobody mentions Roger Nichols' WENDEL, which in fact was the first sample based drum machine, developed in 1978. Listen to "Hey Nineteen" by Steely Dan, that's WENDEL in action.
Very interesting and instructive video - thank you for that.
this was fun as well as very informative! thank you!
I didn't know that Prince was using the Linn Drum machine real heavy back in the days. My dad told me that Prince played live drums on top of the drum machine to give it a fuller sound.
shhhhhh.
T Wise II LM1 not linn drum.
he used both, but the LM-1 is on 1999 and Purple Rain
roger linn's voice makes me feel all warm and fuzzy
Great to see the evolution of the drum machine, i had no idea that it started in 1930
anybody know how to get high quality audio of this video? some of those old machines were captured really well and it would be fun to mess around with them
two heroes right there
Roger Linn, what a master the MPC is KING!
great interview! that was the bomb. detroit stand up! peace to roger as well!!
1:42 my Mexican neighbors next door have one of those
Roger Linn needs to be protected. He is a true national hero!
Thank you! Thumbs up here.
Nice One Guys!
Great freat vid, thnx dubspot
great video thanks
Fascinating
Please can sum1 tell me the track playing at the start of this video?
Great knowledge thanks!
Nice video took me back a bit there, showing my age now LOL
cool info thanks!!!
I like how they slipped Prince in this cause, the Linn LM-1 became Prince's signature sound.
still love irt!!
informative and inspiring
@Carl did you mean the MPC 2000?
Whats the name of the house song in the beginning?
Machinedrum - DDD
rorumets thanks man
CRAIG, Thank You for mentioning J DILLA! The best who EVER used the MPC 3000.
Very enjoyable
hello. What is the song at the beginnig? Thanks
Machinedrum - DDD
Did Mr. Linn mean "Elka" (Italian co. that produced early dm's/synths? Also for the record, the Chamberlin did not "become" the Melotron; the design was stolen by a Chamberlin employee who took the plans to England and began producing a nearly identical machine. Minor point but it bugged me. Great video BTW and fascinating.
good shit john good like always
Can anybody tell me which beatbox was used to produce "Jamaica Jerk-Off," a deep cut from Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road album?
I actually was forced to play real bass parts on a real bass, so the bands I joined wouldn't need to hire a real bass player.
One thing I wouldn't mind asking Roger Linn if I ever got to meet him is how amazed he was to learn that Jeff Porcaro, a drummer he actually associated with directly, used his products to assist him in his session work.
Thanks =]
No Jerry, the mpc3000 predates the mpc20000 and was the first 16bit drum machine. And Roger is credited for the design of the MPC60 & MPC3000, Akai pretty much took his tech and "parted ways" with Linn.
Cool, although I think 16bit sampling (on MPC) was introduced on the 2000. Nice bit of history though.
2nd drum machine was dope
Always thought my self the 8x8 pad layout is more natural than the 4x4
I've toyed with all sorts of samplers through the years but none comes cleaner than the mpc except fl studio.But I veer towards R&B and EDM more than hip hop with FL. Versus when I'm on my MPC 2000 making the hip hop like Premier, Large Professor and Lord Finesse. Kool Herc gave us hip hop but Roger Linn gave us the power to be hip hop without limitations.
There are sooooo many forms of DAW's that have almost infinite vst's out there that are extremely well programmed that right now give fl studioa bitch slap by a thousand it's not even funny. FL is amature shit. When it comes straight down to hardware, LinnDrum, the Roland TR series especially the 909, the yamaha RX5, The Korg DDD-1, But I would say Roland took the cake for the variable dynamics with there evolution. I agree the MPC series is really good. All in all it's about how you feel about you're genre of music, the style and instruments used, the programming, arrangments that you choose to live by.
ArcticinVein Don't forget, Roland TR-808 is also the most major signature sound from Roland in music history.
ArcticinVein "their"
Roger Linn invented the first digital drum machine.
Nice
Plenty of people told me it was DDD by Machinedrum
was he jamming on a watermellon?!?!
How many times do you think Roger said the word 'crickets' :)
educational.
sweet
yeah he upgraded from the oberheim dx-7
Sheldon Taylor the dx-7? That is not a drum machine.
just got schooled ! MPC rules
This is why dubspot shut down.
This instructor had Roger Linn in front of him and embarrassed himself when he began speaking about his first drum machine (he thinks it was linn 9000) he then name drops the 808, hr 16 and interestingly lands on the sp 1200 and mpc 60; and says stop the presses; the mpc 3000 changed the game; and a picture of the mpc 2000 flashes across the screen. He then goes on to say because the mpc 3000 was an all in one production box. Roger Linn is then pictured expressing a “hmmmm” face.
His explanation for game changer all in one production was being able to sample a bass sound and then playing them across all of the pads and then you can have snares, kicks, anything that you want; Roger politely stays quiet as the instructor realizes that his inexperience and lack of knowledge is apparent and then speaks about JDilla.
So apparently this instructor couldn’t figure out how to sample bass sounds and play them across pads on the sp 1200 or mpc 60, nor add kicks and snares; it wasn’t until the 3000 that allowed for this.
It was nice to see Roger Linn take us through the first iterations of drum machines and clearly explain what they did unlike the instructor.
Sad to see this session go down in flames because of the instructor. They should edit his comments out of this video.
Rhytmicon was invented in the Soviet Union by Leon Theremin
I don't think many people in the room appreciate who Carl Craig is. 😆
Met Roger a couple of years ago. I found him a bit off-putting when he said he did not care if JARRE used his "linnstrument" because he is "old". WTF??
3000 came a good 4 yrs before the 2000... both utilise 16 bit.
DDD - Machinedrum
machinedrum (his last ep)
I want to know the same
It's called digital Matryoshka.
10 guys use maschine.
Or an MPC :P
@3:56 enola gay wow
watching youtube, to watch youtube videos... drumception
this is serious
No, the 2000 came years after the 3000.
Linn did not invent the drum machine?
^^ that's ok
because I guess the guy that invented it is already dead
and to Linn we can still talk and ask him questions :-D
hahahahaha
carl craig tho??? why???
drum machine porn...
This black guy has no clue...
i spot akai guys a mile away,front row right..thank you
oh,and akai's punchiness..thank you
one idea..a tempest,that samples..exactly like redrum,i dont care the price,ill buy it,if i was good with electronics,and mfgt'ing,on my mothers soul,id make one,and love it..give me 2 ins,two outs..5mins sample..