“Freud said, no one can be a man unless his father has died” “Newman said, Yes but that death can take place symbolically” That crushed my soul as I’m going through this
At the moment when parent and their children treat themselves as equal and ask each other for counsel on different subjects is when you have a prosperous relationship.
I will never forget the first time (at about age 25) when my father asked ME for advice on a matter. I knew he suddenly was acknowledging I was an adult man.
I know. I’m 20 and i’m telling you bro I really think this information will help me take control of my life and get to where I need to be at fast so I can’t be independent . My only wish is that I can create a healthy relationship with my father. I got so use to abuse I forgot that he is tormenting me, yet something deep down says I should be respectable and still loving to him. This really blew my perspective away.
@@babyrob9419 Same shit af. Moved to my own rental apartments but still have shit left from abusive tiranium father. So now I'm wondering what did I miss and what should I learn to become just calm confident male bs my parents didn't teach me anything.
my father was sometimes so nice and then without warning hed yell at me, threaten me and sometimes even do things to me, so i would always try to keep him happy, to impress him so that he wouldnt yell, hit or tell me i was worthless. around 11 i came out to him, just to realize that he was extremely trans and homophobic. this sort of shattered my view of him bc u see, ik that its BAD that he did those things but i excused it, but when he said things like that it didnt just affect me, it affected others. when seeing how others were badly affected by things my father did to them, i realized maybe my father isnt so perfect. i tried to squash this knowledge, saying it was my fault he was like this, why wasnt i normal, if i was normal id impress him and hed be nice again. another time, he hit my sister and once again, i realized even if i could say "it was my fault" when it happened to me, i could nvr blame it on others, so i said it was my fault he hit her. this obvs gave me trauma and my daddy issues r rly bad. reading through the comments of ppl who suffer like me comforts me, and i rly resonated w/ jordan's speech
I thought my dad knew EVERYthing. I was 15, looking at a wall and I asked him how they made plywood. He said "they mix glue and a bunch of wood chips. .......i mean id guess". For the first time i realized he was just guessing, using common sense but still guessing. All those questions i had asked, he didnt know any more than I did! Google became my father from then on. Lol.
Hahah same the internet esp XNTJ ones has been a good figure better than father. A good figure that we choose intentionally has a broader possibility than a 1 possibility of certain father figure. So more flexibility. Also the figure doesnt have to be human. It can be something more, better, higher.
if a man worships you, That means You're your own god. You have an expiration date like milk one day youll be, Miserable, deppressed, fat, ugly, youll only attract Nasty guys that have no self respect.what a great life you live. hahaha
@@ShinbrigTV absolutely, I am expected to get married (which I don't entirely feel is worth it at this point) simply because it's the only option that they see as morally acceptable
My dad left when I was 9 so I have never felt the need to “impress” my father. I’ve had two stepdads since and I haven’t tried to impress them either. I have not really dealt with or even put much thought into the abandonment until recently and I’m in shambles. I’ve kept it bottled up so long and I’m now realizing things that are throwing my stability through a loop. Realized that even when he was around he wasn’t actually there. I’ve never had a biological father. Makes me question something Peterson talks about often: the concept of saving your father from the belly of the whale. Still trying to figure out what that means for me.
well with not having a biological father you probably find fathers in culture eg films, books , youtube vids (like this one) ,etc so thats where he is for you . Thats why peterson represented the symbolic distinction between the father and mother as culture and nature .
Pretty late on this comment, but I think what peterson meant by "Saving your father from the belly of the whale" is to question whatever it traditions, upbringing or beliefs you have acquired throughout your life. Since for most fathers are the model children look up on in life, that model is different for anyone, and the wrong model can cause bad upbringings and beliefs in the developing child. Think of it as a math formula, A good father will lead you to the right answers, and you'll be confident in your abilities, but when you're given a bad formula, it will certainly lead you to the wrong answers and make you second guess yourself about whether you're even doing it right. when you're given a bad formula that causes some negative beliefs to develop, and we don't like to feel we're doing it wrong or to second guess ourselves, it makes us feel little or worthless. so to numb that sting we develop beliefs and addictions that help us cope. (Like a bad formula for a problem is frustrating so you go do something more pleasurable, so you try to numb that frustration with something.) While some of them definitely helped you in the past to cope, now they are hampering your progress (like most addictions are coping mechanism for psychological pain) Now, for saving your father from the belly part, I think it is to go and kind of do a postmortem exam or go back and face whatever you tried to leave and never face again or parts of ourselves that we sweep under the rug. that way, you'll face the darkness inside the belly of the whale or simply discomfort from facing the things we don't want to explore and learning why we got there; heck we may even see the skeletons of our "fathers" there. again "fathers" here are the wrong beliefs we formed or bad models we still use. and while we may not be in time to save our fathers there - we still have gained something why we even got there in the first place or maybe find clues why our fathers ended up there - (why do they behave and hurt us) that way we break the cycle and give ourselves a chance to heal and avoid falling and being trapped on the same belly of the whale again.
Transference, or rather, a warning- reminder against it. He is a handsome man. My mind went further and imagined George Michael’s ‘Father figure’ song played in the background 😈😆 There are very dark alleys of human psyche where one should not venture unless with the torch of ethics. Peterson was a therapist, so he knows this. That’s why a psychotherapeutic intervention MUST be done with complete transparency and trust. Trust. And truth. Otherwise, it’s a type of endeavour that can be lethal. Literally. You don’t fuck with Truth or Trust.
10:10 The Blue Fairy ‘Jiminy Cricket told me all about you, Peterson. What did you mean when you said it depends on what you mean by truth? And leave your Father Jung behind. Like Abram. Jung’s father was a priest, was he not? No, don’t cry’. *The Blue Fairy turns into The Terrible Mother* ‘Love me and despair!’ *whack whack whack with the not-so-magic wand*
I've watched for months and have been extremely influenced by Jordan's knowlege and insight on many many areas of life's friction. But here he is wearing a jacket that exagerates his actual shoulder width. What the hell? Am I missing the message here?
No kid wants to hear: „Get your ass together!“ First of all, as a father, you should love your kid. Kids are no soldiers who wait for your instructions.
What do you mean by daddy issues, do you mean someone who had a father that wasn't around or father who was abusive, or some selfish person who for no reason has problems with there dads.
That's why I think I developed an alcohol addiction to deal with the suffocation of my own identity to deal with the pressures of being the first born indian-american female in my family. Little brother still lives with them and has major depression, (I think also because of over suffocation of identity as he is an only son and in Asian cultures they love their sons way more). I am so much happier living on my own now. I know I'm smarter than them too, and I am now at 30, sober and finally trying to find out who I really am. Isnt that sad This? Atleast I am aware.This shit is hard. Parents need to stop projecting their broken dreams onto their children. That's not why we were fucking born.
Yeah. Hear you there. I'm only 23, so thank God, i'm waking up muchhhhh earlier. Holy fck. Atleast you're awake now, and not snapping when you're like 45, that would have been a REAL mess.
@@themaverick2219 yep then his daddy issues would have also affected her child Like my daddy who wanted me to become a superman without any flaw, he being the eldest son of 3 was supposed to be most successful, but i know that is not the case, from my childhood all a heard from him is NO NO and NO, don't know what he wanted me to become All i wanted from him till childhood was some love Or to listen that i had done good, I have been pretty good at studies, I had many scholarships (although this is a good side effect of his rudeness as I always tried to get dad's approval) but never got. If there's any memories of him that i could recall is him beating me with his fist, beating me with stick, or throwing me out of his house in front of everyone. I have a thousand wounds not just mentally but also physically he broke my nose so bad that I had to get surgery, my inferior turbinates in my nose had to be removed as they were damaged so bad Trust me that idiot is going to die alone
![Father Wound: How to Heal Your Negative Father Complex? - Inner Work Library [33/500]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SGA18WMzXhg/mqdefault.jpg)
When the professor closes the door. You know shits about to get real.
i was just about to comment this
Who closed the door?
@@ascia158 Peterson
Done 😂😂
He closed the door because he made a mistake and just had to do sth to cover it up ;)
actual therapist
worth listening to
“Freud said, no one can be a man unless his father has died”
“Newman said, Yes but that death can take place symbolically”
That crushed my soul as I’m going through this
That hit hard....
It's amazing how Jordan delivers such a complex thoughts and maintains it throughout the whole lecture..
0:16 "it is a complicated idea but basically what it means is" damn
Not me listening to daddy issues by the neighbourhood at 2:37am UK.....now I'm watching a class on it. Dammm RUclips
I hope you are better now!sending love💕
Saaaaame in 2024 ✨️
i came here to fine solution to my daddy issues bt DAAAAAAMMN this man is such a DaDdY--
I’m available to any single women
girl iKKKKK
@@dandankokorohikareteku2620 I'm dying ugliest single woman on earth are you available? (BTW I have sexual illness)
LOL
Repent jezebel
Jordan Peterson is my daddy.
Same
Yes!
C'mon ladies
All y'all wrong in these comments for drooling over JP 😭😭
It's so funny, daddy is teaching me how to deal with my daddy issue, but I can only focus on his daddiness :)
Boi what the hell boi
* facepalm *
Sameeee
big mood
😉
At the moment when parent and their children treat themselves as equal and ask each other for counsel on different subjects is when you have a prosperous relationship.
false
What are you talking about buddy
I will never forget the first time (at about age 25) when my father asked ME for advice on a matter. I knew he suddenly was acknowledging I was an adult man.
My relationship with my father is good.
I've always thought of Peterson as the cool uncle who'd drop life changing advice every Christmas party.
is it just me or side of his face looks like the actor in Lolita, which makes me focusing on the video even harder...
frrr
He looks like Jeremy Irons who's the actor in Lolita,my daddy issues are screaming 😳😩
Gratitude towards my parents helps a lot. Someone picked up that little baby and took care of them in a way that they knew best.
Wish I saw this 20 years ago. You don’t get gifts like this too often.
I know. I’m 20 and i’m telling you bro I really think this information will help me take control of my life and get to where I need to be at fast so I can’t be independent . My only wish is that I can create a healthy relationship with my father. I got so use to abuse I forgot that he is tormenting me, yet something deep down says I should be respectable and still loving to him. This really blew my perspective away.
@@babyrob9419 Same shit af. Moved to my own rental apartments but still have shit left from abusive tiranium father. So now I'm wondering what did I miss and what should I learn to become just calm confident male bs my parents didn't teach me anything.
@babyrob9419 and @romariorosso9502 it’s been a while since you guys left these comments and I’m wondering how you are doing ?????
@@Shooterindatooterjust now figured this out as my Dad is dying of cancer. Having to distance when he needs support is tough.
Daddy as fuck
Stfu maria i been on the roller jpp coaster of pleasure before you were even aware of his existence
Drew what the fuck man??
@@Maria-ro9vy
Me and him belong together
Edit: fuck! I cant spell when jealousy has overridden me
YOUR SIDE PROFILE GIVES ME HUMBERT HUMBERT (Jeremy Irons; the actor from 1972 movie- Lolita) VIBES! IM SCREEEAMMMINNNNGG
Ikr
Fr 😩😍
frrr noo 😭😭😭😭😭
please anybody noticed that he looks kinda like Jeremy Irons and omg..
People who have actual daddy issues have been through alot of trauma and often struggle alot and need help
I will repeat his class periodt
i took all the note daddy！just for daddy Peterson tells im good！
K but how do I pay attention when jp is such a daddy
I wish someone in college taught me this
my father was sometimes so nice and then without warning hed yell at me, threaten me and sometimes even do things to me, so i would always try to keep him happy, to impress him so that he wouldnt yell, hit or tell me i was worthless. around 11 i came out to him, just to realize that he was extremely trans and homophobic. this sort of shattered my view of him bc u see, ik that its BAD that he did those things but i excused it, but when he said things like that it didnt just affect me, it affected others. when seeing how others were badly affected by things my father did to them, i realized maybe my father isnt so perfect. i tried to squash this knowledge, saying it was my fault he was like this, why wasnt i normal, if i was normal id impress him and hed be nice again. another time, he hit my sister and once again, i realized even if i could say "it was my fault" when it happened to me, i could nvr blame it on others, so i said it was my fault he hit her. this obvs gave me trauma and my daddy issues r rly bad. reading through the comments of ppl who suffer like me comforts me, and i rly resonated w/ jordan's speech
When he was about to talk about the Harry Potter films i thought he was going to make an example of daddy lucius and Snape 😩
Imagine 😭😭😭
Yes, That's very helpful. Thank you, daddy❤
My daddy issues are acting up for this man. Oh.
lamooo
People studying this in college I am seeing this in middle school
Smart girl 🤣
I thought my dad knew EVERYthing. I was 15, looking at a wall and I asked him how they made plywood. He said "they mix glue and a bunch of wood chips. .......i mean id guess". For the first time i realized he was just guessing, using common sense but still guessing. All those questions i had asked, he didnt know any more than I did!
Google became my father from then on. Lol.
He wasn’t wrong. That’s literally how they make OSB…
You sound like a terrible child
As a father myself, I’d recommend that you throw him a bone every now and then by giving him a call and asking for advice. It will make him feel great
Hahah same the internet esp XNTJ ones has been a good figure better than father. A good figure that we choose intentionally has a broader possibility than a 1 possibility of certain father figure. So more flexibility. Also the figure doesnt have to be human. It can be something more, better, higher.
7:07 Nahhh wtf blud tryna teach⁉️😭‼️☠️☠️
Well I mean he has the same MBTI/psychology software as Hitler (INFJ). Glad he is the healthy one!
Struggling with this, living with my dad at 25 and feeling kinda shit
Why is a silver fox talking about daddy issues?
You re not thinking.. You re watching the thought revealed to you.. And you get surprised! How come it s your thought and you got surprised?
I am realizing how we do give our parents the god image and final
Dominion. Or at least I have
Get out of here with that manipulative name shit
How to make a man worship u.... Can I poop in a bag and mail it to u?
if a man worships you, That means You're your own god. You have an expiration date like milk one day youll be, Miserable, deppressed, fat, ugly, youll only attract Nasty guys that have no self respect.what a great life you live. hahaha
It's worse when they're religious.
@@ShinbrigTV absolutely, I am expected to get married (which I don't entirely feel is worth it at this point) simply because it's the only option that they see as morally acceptable
i need the whole lecture so if anyone knows please comment.
Same me too
@@user-vj8qw3jp3z Saw this on another comment: ruclips.net/video/bV16NEWld8Q/видео.html
JORDAN PETERSON IS SO FINE WOOF
Where does Freud say that the manhood is achieved with the death of the father?
At that moment it makes you realize you gotta be your own man because you don't have one in your life.
I like your thoughts...
@ Jordan Peterson, can we get married??? 😍
I can be your daddy
I'm being called out in 99 different languages
My dad left when I was 9 so I have never felt the need to “impress” my father. I’ve had two stepdads since and I haven’t tried to impress them either. I have not really dealt with or even put much thought into the abandonment until recently and I’m in shambles. I’ve kept it bottled up so long and I’m now realizing things that are throwing my stability through a loop. Realized that even when he was around he wasn’t actually there. I’ve never had a biological father. Makes me question something Peterson talks about often: the concept of saving your father from the belly of the whale. Still trying to figure out what that means for me.
Same here
well with not having a biological father you probably find fathers in culture eg films, books , youtube vids (like this one) ,etc so thats where he is for you . Thats why peterson represented the symbolic distinction between the father and mother as culture and nature .
Pretty late on this comment, but I think what peterson meant by "Saving your father from the belly of the whale" is to question whatever it traditions, upbringing or beliefs you have acquired throughout your life.
Since for most fathers are the model children look up on in life, that model is different for anyone, and the wrong model can cause bad upbringings and beliefs in the developing child.
Think of it as a math formula, A good father will lead you to the right answers, and you'll be confident in your abilities, but when you're given a bad formula, it will certainly lead you to the wrong answers and make you second guess yourself about whether you're even doing it right.
when you're given a bad formula that causes some negative beliefs to develop, and we don't like to feel we're doing it wrong or to second guess ourselves, it makes us feel little or worthless. so to numb that sting we develop beliefs and addictions that help us cope.
(Like a bad formula for a problem is frustrating so you go do something more pleasurable, so you try to numb that frustration with something.)
While some of them definitely helped you in the past to cope, now they are hampering your progress (like most addictions are coping mechanism for psychological pain)
Now, for saving your father from the belly part, I think it is to go and kind of do a postmortem exam or go back and face whatever you tried to leave and never face again or parts of ourselves that we sweep under the rug.
that way, you'll face the darkness inside the belly of the whale or simply discomfort from facing the things we don't want to explore and learning why we got there; heck we may even see the skeletons of our "fathers" there.
again "fathers" here are the wrong beliefs we formed or bad models we still use.
and while we may not be in time to save our fathers there - we still have gained something why we even got there in the first place or maybe find clues why our fathers ended up there - (why do they behave and hurt us)
that way we break the cycle and give ourselves a chance to heal and avoid falling and being trapped on the same belly of the whale again.
Yeah Daddy？What do are you thingking use your looks and your voice to keep me focused in class?
Wait wtf are these comments?!🧐
Ikr. Thirst tweets
Transference, or rather, a warning- reminder against it. He is a handsome man.
My mind went further and imagined George Michael’s ‘Father figure’ song played in the background 😈😆
There are very dark alleys of human psyche where one should not venture unless with the torch of ethics. Peterson was a therapist, so he knows this. That’s why a psychotherapeutic intervention MUST be done with complete transparency and trust. Trust. And truth.
Otherwise, it’s a type of endeavour that can be lethal. Literally. You don’t fuck with Truth or Trust.
full lecture: ruclips.net/video/bV16NEWld8Q/видео.html
welcome
The dudebro student: “it’s not that deep”
This is when he was good. Then he let the world make him bitter.
Agreed. He's lost his mind and I have no idea what to even say to his rape-property crime ideas
where's the original lecture?
sharing again: ruclips.net/video/bV16NEWld8Q/видео.html
Im concerned with the amount of daddies comments while Im trying to fix myself
I love that the people in the comments are basically writing what I thought as soon as I clicked...
Let's go, siblings
Where can i get the rest of this?
did you ever get a answer to this or anything of the like
there you go: ruclips.net/video/bV16NEWld8Q/видео.html
I can’t focus on the lesson daddy 😭
fucking love how this ended
I adore it 🥰
Wow!
i don't get a thing
Daddy
Common sense should be kicking in rn 😎
JESUS CHRIST LOVES UU ALL. ✝️🖤🖤🖤
Daddy🥺
10:10 The Blue Fairy ‘Jiminy
Cricket told me all about you, Peterson. What did you mean when you said it depends on what you mean by truth? And leave your Father Jung behind. Like Abram. Jung’s father was a priest, was he not? No, don’t cry’.
*The Blue Fairy turns into The Terrible Mother* ‘Love me and despair!’ *whack whack whack with the not-so-magic wand*
Try his best to talk about daddy issues
*Ends up being the daddy issue of ton of girls*
Out of the void
I've watched for months and have been extremely influenced by Jordan's knowlege and insight on many many areas of life's friction. But here he is wearing a jacket that exagerates his actual shoulder width. What the hell? Am I missing the message here?
Lol, so what "he is wearing a jacket that exaggerates his actual shoulder width" so he's wearing a sport coat, so what?
He had lost a lot of weight. He looks unwell. No wonder given what his life was like then. I am glad things are better for him.
what do you mean by overflowing identity?
No kid wants to hear: „Get your ass together!“ First of all, as a father, you should love your kid. Kids are no soldiers who wait for your instructions.
Daddy ❤
What do you mean by daddy issues, do you mean someone who had a father that wasn't around or father who was abusive, or some selfish person who for no reason has problems with there dads.
Every time he talks 🤯🌋🪄
3:45
it is confusing to me @@
Um why am I here😭
Why he sounds like Saul Goodman?
is he a conservative? if he is he’s the only attractive one i’ve seen
My daddy issues are screaming 😳😫
He is
@Shruti Tripathy please get help if this is true I am concerned for you are you ok or is that really true🙏
ruclips.net/video/O-nvNAcvUPE/видео.html
Ever heard of chris pratt?
Where does he teach st
transformation.... Pinocchiho....
daddy
He makes everything so difficult to understand, gosh. Make it understandable for f.. sake
Satan deals
Perez Carol Thomas George Moore Deborah
what
Why did jordan peterson act like that towards the end. Like distressed
Shame.
dilf
da
That's why I think I developed an alcohol addiction to deal with the suffocation of my own identity to deal with the pressures of being the first born indian-american female in my family. Little brother still lives with them and has major depression, (I think also because of over suffocation of identity as he is an only son and in Asian cultures they love their sons way more). I am so much happier living on my own now. I know I'm smarter than them too, and I am now at 30, sober and finally trying to find out who I really am. Isnt that sad This? Atleast I am aware.This shit is hard. Parents need to stop projecting their broken dreams onto their children. That's not why we were fucking born.
facts
Yeah. Hear you there. I'm only 23, so thank God, i'm waking up muchhhhh earlier. Holy fck.
Atleast you're awake now, and not snapping when you're like 45, that would have been a REAL mess.
@@themaverick2219 yep then his daddy issues would have also affected her child
Like my daddy who wanted me to become a superman without any flaw, he being the eldest son of 3 was supposed to be most successful, but i know that is not the case, from my childhood all a heard from him is NO NO and NO, don't know what he wanted me to become
All i wanted from him till childhood was some love Or to listen that i had done good, I have been pretty good at studies, I had many scholarships (although this is a good side effect of his rudeness as I always tried to get dad's approval) but never got.
If there's any memories of him that i could recall is him beating me with his fist, beating me with stick, or throwing me out of his house in front of everyone. I have a thousand wounds not just mentally but also physically he broke my nose so bad that I had to get surgery, my inferior turbinates in my nose had to be removed as they were damaged so bad
Trust me that idiot is going to die alone
Thank you so much 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
Daddy
Sir please all other people wanna see the part please let know
Daddy lol
If dad is toxic you dont have to look after him. Why keep putting ur hand in the door and having ur dad slam it.
WTF is up with these daddy comments 👀 😂