There does seem to be a trade-off between speed and aesthetics. To my eyes, writer a’s scrawl is more pleasing, but that’s just me. Sometimes you just have to resort to just getting ideas onto paper as back at university, having to ditch aesthetics. You, however, seem to be able to do both beauty and swiftness. Chapeau!
@@PerfectBiscuits I've noticed in learning music that if you can't play a piece slowly you'll never be able to play it quickly no matter how long you try to practice it full speed. Do you think it's the same with writing? That you need to begin slowly and work your way up to faster writing?
With my study method I usually take a video of the lecture during the lecture I ask as many questions as possible then I go back and try to write everything I remembered clearly. Then I look over the lecture again and continue until I fully understand the concept. This allows me to have the time to write clear and legible notes for when exam studying time comes around, and usually, by then I understand enough to the point where studying becomes futile.
Thanks for posting. This is enlighgting. I have a forthcoming exam and was doubting between typing and handwriting because typing is faster but not accurate so there is back and forth, plus exam software does not correct. You have inspired me to practice handwriting.
Sorry to be offtopic but does someone know a trick to get back into an instagram account?? I was dumb forgot the account password. I would love any tips you can give me!
4. one more comment regarding eliminating loops and replacing it with straight line (stroke). Again, using the shortest distance argument, it is a sound advise. but a) with the straight stroke, you still have to travel back to base line to start another letter, unless, of course, it is a 'g' letter at the end and you just end your writing there, instead of looping back. b) the loop can be considered a curisve style but it is also related to how we move our hand/arm/wrist. imagine you have an iron ball attached to the end of a string and swing it away from you. When it reaches the apex, you can try to yank it back in a straight line. it is neither ergonomic nor easy. instead, you pull the string in a nature motion and it swings back to complete the loop, even though it travels a longer distance, it doesn't need to fight the momentum. I'm not saying the straight line is a bad way to make writing faster, but just using straight distance alone as an argument is ignoring other factors in writing.
Hi David, been a fan of your videos. But for this particular one, I hope you don't mind a little bit of criticisms. 1. The alternate t (not going back and cross) really hurts legibility. It might look fine in context (of a common word), but it really doesn't work so well when it is in some unfamiliar words. I think the palmer alternative 't' at the end of the word is a great shortcut (although can't be used in the middle) 2. There's a valid point regarding travel distance comparing writing large & small letters. But as we all know palmer's style produced bigger letters than normal cursive writing (95% of the population write that way). Using it as a demonstration is biased as most people don't write that large (more like your "small" version). However, due to arm movement (and wrist & fingers), there is an optimal letter size that you can write fast & smoothly. Going 2mm letter size won't make the writing go faster. 3. Lastly the split screen comparison - I feel like you slowed down unnecessarily for the palmer style. I was doing the same sentence as you did with palmer style, in a relax pace, and had no problem catching up with the lower screen (and can go faster without stressing too much). Hopefully this comment doesnt come across as rude, as I really like this discussion and there are indeed lots of useful tips in this video.
Hey, thanks for watching the videos. Always great to hear thoughtful criticism. Here's my replies. 1. In general all of these things hurt legibility, so you just have to consider the purpose of your writing and decide how many simplifications you can implement. If you're taking notes in class, you can easily get away with the alternate t I suggest. If you're writing an exam, perhaps not. 2. Regarding size, most of the normal, finger writing I see could be sized down to and result in speed gains, especially with a little bit of practice. If you're already writing pretty small, then yea reducing size could hinder speed if you are going so small that you have to slow down to execute the letters at that reduced size. For arm writing, writing smaller requires you to quiet arm movement and introduce some finger movement into your writing. As long as you still have some arm movement propelling the writing, your hand/fingers won't tire easily and you'll be able to execute the smaller forms for increased speed. 3. I probably was going slower than I needed to for the traditional/slow style of writing, but looks can be deceiving because I wasn't really trying to write fast for the simplified/fast style of writing. When you simplify the script and write more vertically, you can't help but write faster. 4a. Not sure what your point is here. Yes you have to travel back to the baseline but it's a shorter distance and quicker move to go down and back up. Also you don't have to go straight back up, you can simply go from the bottom of the downstroke right into the next letter. 4b. I don't really buy the momentum argument. The momentum created by the hand/pen is so incredibly small compared to the muscles that are driving the writing. This is really more about psychologically getting comfortable making a different movement than actually fighting physical momentum.
No, it’s not strange. Vertical writing is easier to read. For most people, it’s easier to write slanted script. In the past when arm writing was taught, the mechanics of the arm demanded a slanted script.
I'm curious about the letter r the second variation and the origin of that particular form. I know that the z written as 3 is the greek cryillic letter *zemlja* hence it makes sense the phonetic sound is pronounced 'Ze' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze_(Cyrillic) Early greek cyrillic alphabet en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Cyrillic_alphabet
@@PerfectBiscuits Perfect Biscuits I've got a feeling it comes from the greek letter rho. If you look at the way the greek alphabet is written the rho starts from the bottom and curves out: ruclips.net/video/peaWbZZHDdA/видео.html It is no doubt a stylized or cryptic version of the greek letter rho: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_epigraphic_Rho#/media/File:Greek_Rho_05.svg Ancient epigraphic letter shapes of Greek letter Rho: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_epigraphic_Rho#/media/File:Greek_Rho_05.svg
@@PerfectBiscuits I'm absolutely certain the second variation of the letter 'r' is the cursive form of the greek letter rho commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_cursive_variants_Rho.svg
Yes yes...thank you.. finally Edit: but doesn't this conflict with writing from arm? I just recently started the exercises you have shown. But when I try these I sense myself moving back to finger writing.
Ok, so writing smaller and writing more vertical are two things that might cause you to use more finger movement. That said, you can still implement these changes while using arm movement as the primary source of power for your writing and as long as you are doing that, you should be able to write for long periods of time without any pain or fatigue.
Watching this before my english exam. I will apply this in my exam. 👍
You're killing it dude! Love this new video and the new website. Amazing stuff!
There does seem to be a trade-off between speed and aesthetics. To my eyes, writer a’s scrawl is more pleasing, but that’s just me. Sometimes you just have to resort to just getting ideas onto paper as back at university, having to ditch aesthetics. You, however, seem to be able to do both beauty and swiftness. Chapeau!
Speed and beauty are not completely incompatible, they are just harder to achieve than beauty or speed alone.
@@PerfectBiscuits I've noticed in learning music that if you can't play a piece slowly you'll never be able to play it quickly no matter how long you try to practice it full speed. Do you think it's the same with writing? That you need to begin slowly and work your way up to faster writing?
Zach Hinkle you learn a lot from going slow and from going fast. You’ll miss a lot if all your practice is at one speed.
THANKS A MILLION, your video is the best video and tips I have seen over 10 years! GREAT JOB!
Great video as always. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the tip imma need this for my Economics exam tomorrow!
With my study method I usually take a video of the lecture during the lecture I ask as many questions as possible then I go back and try to write everything I remembered clearly. Then I look over the lecture again and continue until I fully understand the concept. This allows me to have the time to write clear and legible notes for when exam studying time comes around, and usually, by then I understand enough to the point where studying becomes futile.
Thanks a lot 😊
Thanks for posting. This is enlighgting. I have a forthcoming exam and was doubting between typing and handwriting because typing is faster but not accurate so there is back and forth, plus exam software does not correct. You have inspired me to practice handwriting.
this is great!
I’ve explored the site and compliments! Well done!
Thanks Vincenzo!
Very helpful for exams!
for me i just say the words or tell myself what to write in my brain it works for me
THANKSSS
Thank you sir . Now my writing is improving ❤️❤️
Sorry to be offtopic but does someone know a trick to get back into an instagram account??
I was dumb forgot the account password. I would love any tips you can give me!
4. one more comment regarding eliminating loops and replacing it with straight line (stroke).
Again, using the shortest distance argument, it is a sound advise. but
a) with the straight stroke, you still have to travel back to base line to start another letter, unless, of course, it is a 'g' letter at the end and you just end your writing there, instead of looping back.
b) the loop can be considered a curisve style but it is also related to how we move our hand/arm/wrist. imagine you have an iron ball attached to the end of a string and swing it away from you. When it reaches the apex, you can try to yank it back in a straight line. it is neither ergonomic nor easy. instead, you pull the string in a nature motion and it swings back to complete the loop, even though it travels a longer distance, it doesn't need to fight the momentum.
I'm not saying the straight line is a bad way to make writing faster, but just using straight distance alone as an argument is ignoring other factors in writing.
Hi David, been a fan of your videos. But for this particular one, I hope you don't mind a little bit of criticisms.
1. The alternate t (not going back and cross) really hurts legibility. It might look fine in context (of a common word), but it really doesn't work so well when it is in some unfamiliar words. I think the palmer alternative 't' at the end of the word is a great shortcut (although can't be used in the middle)
2. There's a valid point regarding travel distance comparing writing large & small letters. But as we all know palmer's style produced bigger letters than normal cursive writing (95% of the population write that way). Using it as a demonstration is biased as most people don't write that large (more like your "small" version). However, due to arm movement (and wrist & fingers), there is an optimal letter size that you can write fast & smoothly. Going 2mm letter size won't make the writing go faster.
3. Lastly the split screen comparison - I feel like you slowed down unnecessarily for the palmer style. I was doing the same sentence as you did with palmer style, in a relax pace, and had no problem catching up with the lower screen (and can go faster without stressing too much).
Hopefully this comment doesnt come across as rude, as I really like this discussion and there are indeed lots of useful tips in this video.
Hey, thanks for watching the videos. Always great to hear thoughtful criticism. Here's my replies.
1. In general all of these things hurt legibility, so you just have to consider the purpose of your writing and decide how many simplifications you can implement. If you're taking notes in class, you can easily get away with the alternate t I suggest. If you're writing an exam, perhaps not.
2. Regarding size, most of the normal, finger writing I see could be sized down to and result in speed gains, especially with a little bit of practice. If you're already writing pretty small, then yea reducing size could hinder speed if you are going so small that you have to slow down to execute the letters at that reduced size.
For arm writing, writing smaller requires you to quiet arm movement and introduce some finger movement into your writing. As long as you still have some arm movement propelling the writing, your hand/fingers won't tire easily and you'll be able to execute the smaller forms for increased speed.
3. I probably was going slower than I needed to for the traditional/slow style of writing, but looks can be deceiving because I wasn't really trying to write fast for the simplified/fast style of writing. When you simplify the script and write more vertically, you can't help but write faster.
4a. Not sure what your point is here. Yes you have to travel back to the baseline but it's a shorter distance and quicker move to go down and back up. Also you don't have to go straight back up, you can simply go from the bottom of the downstroke right into the next letter.
4b. I don't really buy the momentum argument. The momentum created by the hand/pen is so incredibly small compared to the muscles that are driving the writing. This is really more about psychologically getting comfortable making a different movement than actually fighting physical momentum.
I'm really glad you typed that it was not meant to be rude. Almost everyone just bashes up straight..thank you
You deserve more subscribers😢
I started writing very small , and it helped lmaooo
is it strange that I find the less slanted handwriting easier to read? Why do we add such a slant to our handwriting usually?
No, it’s not strange. Vertical writing is easier to read.
For most people, it’s easier to write slanted script. In the past when arm writing was taught, the mechanics of the arm demanded a slanted script.
Beautiful don't forget to like
Great video!
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I'm curious about the letter r the second variation and the origin of that particular form. I know that the z written as 3 is the greek cryillic letter *zemlja* hence it makes sense the phonetic sound is pronounced 'Ze' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze_(Cyrillic)
Early greek cyrillic alphabet
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Cyrillic_alphabet
No idea where the variation on the letter r comes from.
@@PerfectBiscuits Perfect Biscuits I've got a feeling it comes from the greek letter rho. If you look at the way the greek alphabet is written the rho starts from the bottom and curves out: ruclips.net/video/peaWbZZHDdA/видео.html
It is no doubt a stylized or cryptic version of the greek letter rho: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_epigraphic_Rho#/media/File:Greek_Rho_05.svg
Ancient epigraphic letter shapes of Greek letter Rho:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_epigraphic_Rho#/media/File:Greek_Rho_05.svg
@@PerfectBiscuits I'm absolutely certain the second variation of the letter 'r' is the cursive form of the greek letter rho commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_cursive_variants_Rho.svg
@@unconsciousmind320 Looks like it to me.
i already do this, but too slow :(
simplification, abstraction
Have you ever heard of Gregg Shorthand? What are your thoughts?
I know about shorthand in general, definitely a great route if you can learn it.
So size does matter....THATS WHAT SHE SAID
😂
Sometime it does
Ba-dum boom!
Yes yes...thank you.. finally
Edit: but doesn't this conflict with writing from arm? I just recently started the exercises you have shown. But when I try these I sense myself moving back to finger writing.
Ok, so writing smaller and writing more vertical are two things that might cause you to use more finger movement. That said, you can still implement these changes while using arm movement as the primary source of power for your writing and as long as you are doing that, you should be able to write for long periods of time without any pain or fatigue.
@@PerfectBiscuits Ok need to practice more I guess. Also checked out your website, its great and laid out in easy manner.
but youre writing with your fingers
Ya I don’t cover arm writing in this video. All of the ideas apply to arm and finger writing.