Really like the videos! I believe those brackets for the washer are anti-tip brackets. I have similar brackets for my oven and they would be installed on the back legs so you could slide the oven into them. The purpose, again as I remember, is to prevent tip over when the door is opened as the weight will be shifted more to the front. You may want to add some blocking to the underside of your countertop above the back of your washer to serve this purpose. Keep up the good work!
Oh, one other thing. Think of a dryer as an air pump. It is gonna take air from inside your bus and vent it outside. You’ll want to open a vent or window during drying otherwise, every source of outside air will be a path for air entry. Think black water tank vent or possibly engine exhaust, might not be pleasant. Safe travels!
Juan and Michelle another great video step by step. It makes sense the way you two do things. I am rooting for you every day. Stay safe and healthy. Thanks for sharing your video with us. Ed
This is such a well planned and executed project with an eye for every detail. The Bus will be legendary. 🚌 😍👍🙏 Oh. And I'm super excited to see a video of the Durango being towed. 😉
Thanks! We can't wait to try out towing the Durango. We have to swap out the previous owner's ball hitch and have a new 2" receiver welded on. That project will probably wait for just a bit.
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Thats a great addition to your bus. I think well worth the space and weight it will take and also no reason you can't go the the laundry mat when you feel the need to.
Hey guys very cool video as always. Just a quick thought, you might want to add the thickness of your flooring under your combo unit. There is two possible reasons for this idea. First is if the flooring is stepped up in front of your machine it maybe difficult to lift up and over the height difference. Second potential problem is if the unit leaks, sweats or the drain valve malfunctions you may not notice the water in till the water gets up to the floor level. Keep up the awesome work. Stay safe.
We have the exact same unit. Installed it a little over a year ago and it has been great. It vibrates the rig more than I expected but other than that we love it. There may be a pad you could put between it and the floor to cut down on that but I haven’t checked into it.
The best way to judge the amount of clothes per wash load is by weight. A girlfriend of mine mother was a big advocate of weighing and separating the laundry by colors (darks, colors, whites, grungies [dish towels, cleaning rags etc]) lastly she used "blueing" with her whites and added "borax" to other loads as a supplement to her regular laundry soap. If you don't dry the clothes totally dry and you have wrinkles just run a hot iron over them it will remove wrinkles and help dry clothes also from personal experience from living out of a suitcase fro a decade always hang you clothes after washing them to allow them to finish drying and then fold them.
Nice! I used a Magic Chef 3 cu ft I came up with a recycling system to use the same water for the wash and rise. I can wash all day long with the same 20 gallons of water. The machine use a total 11 gallons on large. I experiment with many different filters and came up with a perfect combo. On top of that, using different soaps.
Although I am CERTAIN you have allowed for this, the "periscope" vent is a notorious lint trap. Because of its indirect flow, lint WILL adhere to any, and every surface inside the vent. FYI... and cheers from here!
Hi Juan and Michelle! I was wondering how much fun it was getting that band clamp tightened around the dryer vent on the lower section of the sliding vent where it slides over the black plastic vent piece that goes through the wall of the bus. The video didn't show that part but I was anticipating that being a little bit of a challenge :-)
I was wondering the same thing. I could see the two bands on there before the duct was put on the wall inside. There is some gap behind the back of cabinets though, but that would be some serious extension to go from the side to tighten the bands.
I don't think we got video of that because it was too tight to capture with the camera. But yes there is space behind the washer so we just reached back in there. It wasn't the easiest but not too bad.
A small suggestion if I may........It appears that there may be enough room between top of machine and bottom of bench top for a slide out shelf. Thanks for informative posting
It's a great choice I put one in my first bus conversion and it will dry the crap out of your clothes so be careful pulling them out its only got like 1500 watts of heat like a blow dryer at least that's what it sounds like anyway. I liked it. But I decided to look at the LG washer dryer combo they have a 4.3 capacity wash cycle and a 7.2 dry cycle and a steam dry cycle I bought it used for 600 Bucks new there like 1700 there's no way I would buy one new just because of cost so when I saw it for 600 I jumped on it. Still haven't gotten to the install yet but soon I hope. Oh periscope vent adapter Great choice I used two one for the dryer and one for a jenn-air downdraft cooktop. Great video you guys its really looking good.
The periscope adapter is a poor compromise aimed at homeowners and installers without the tools or skills to make a proper custom tubular dryer vent. They pack up quickly, and wind up being a fire hazard if not regularly cleaned out. On a cooktop vent, expect the periscope to be loaded up and dripping grease out of it without frequent (and difficult) maintenance. I'm very skeptical that Jenn-Air or any other manufacturer would approve that installation, but its a free country and by all means do as you please...
Glad you liked yours Brian. The LG sounds great too...you got an awesome deal. We do plan to make cleaning out the vent a part of regular bus maintenance so hopefully that won't cause any problems.
@Beginningfromthismorning Just curious why you chose to use that horizontal check valve in the drain pipe and not just do an S-Trap in the drain line stand pipe behind the washer? Were you concerned the water would slosh out of the trap? Just wondering; thanks!! Beautiful job!!
We chose Hepvo waterless traps for all of our water traps. Partly for the reason you mentioned. We have heard reports from others of water sloshing out (although we know others that have not experienced that). They also take up much less room and do a great job of keeping smells out.
LOL the straps are fantastic to move large items. I had my macho pants on when I moved a number of heavy items. What I did not realize was that I actually bruised my forearms. I knew it the next day:)
Hi Michelle and Juan I was just re watching the videos on your water tank installations. Is there any danger of the top of the tanks flexing due to liquid surges causing pipe breakages. It appears as though there is a large hollow in the tops of them. Greetings from locked down Queensland
Hi Stephen. Great observation - we were a little afraid of that as well but the tanks are very thick - I think the wall thickness is 3/8" and we have filled the tanks up and dumped them 3 different times while we were sanitizing the system and did not see any evidence of flex at all. We will keep a close eye on it of course but early testing leads us to believe that it shouldn't be a problem.
I used one of those periscope vent adjuster on a dryer. They do work well but have one big downside. They are a lint trap and need to be cleaned out ever so often to avoid being a fire hazard. So if you see a increase in the time needed to dry a load it may need a clean out.
Are you using a water meter app in your technology cabinet to monitor water usage and any possible leaks in the system.. and to help you know when the tank is low beside the visual aid on the tank itself?
We have the SeeLevel water level monitors on our tanks which will give us a better idea once we start using the washer in the bus. We will also have water sensors located in areas where we want to be sure there aren't leaks.
Forearm Forklifts are great :) That is a really nice combo unit...and for $600 it was a steal! 10 gallons & 1.3KWh is actually pretty good...I don't think you could have done much better.
Hi Folks, I read through comments but no one seems to ask about the noise level of this unit. Did it seem acceptable to you when running? Sorry if I missed that part of the review. Great installation! I'm looking for a slightly larger capacity but all the 2.7 cu.ft. ones all seem to be non-vented. Rats! :)
Thank you Joel - we only ran the washer in our house. While the machine is not super quiet we don't recall it being terribly loud either. It seemed very acceptable to us but we will report back when we actually start using it in the bus. When we were researching everything we found said to stay away from the non-vented models. That may have changed since our research but that is what everybody kept saying.
Regarding the vent on the exterior: I wonder if the warm air will discolor your nice paint job. Maybe an aluminum deflector can be stuck on below the vent to dissipate the heat and moisture. I would guess that it would protect your paint from rust and discoloration.
One question do you drain vent all to the roof of the bus? you have one tank for black and grey water it will produce a gas. 2: your toilet may leak gas the vent will stop it . 3: vent will help water drain in the tank. there is a RV vent cap.
Hi akdisney - yes we have a vent pipe that extends through the roof of our coach. We did a video on it when we were first plumbing some of the bus: ruclips.net/video/nIyDyhwVZ6c/видео.html
Depending on where you are, hand washing and a clothesline will sometimes be a viable option. Doing a few articles of clothing each day can avoid the necessity of going to a laundromat which is expensive and boring.
Great install on the Splendide The non vented ones are worthless... and you probably should buy an additional Control Board.. because when yours goes out... you won't be able to get a replacement.
1. Power Usage I see you have a hot water line running to the Splendide so I assume it does not heat the water but uses water that is already heated. If you wash clothes in hot water, did you include the power needed to heat the water in your electricity usage calculations? 2. Bus Side Considerations I was wondering if "Bus Side" (Driver's side v. Passenger side) was part of your layout consideration for anything. Generally speaking, items on the Driver's side of a vehicle/trailer will experience more severe shocks compared to the Passenger side. Because, eventually, everyone runs off the road, and Murphy's Law says such will happen when there is a bad shoulder or a hole. So the Driver's side of the vehicle/trailer is shock tested more often than the passenger's side. Thus, perhaps, one puts the more shock sensitive equipment on the passenger's side? Just curious. 3. Repair and Replacement I hope you made those appliances easy to replace - and it looks like you did. I do not have very good luck at all with such appliances with regard to life span. These days things just seem to be built to work past the warranty period and fail, and in a way that is cheaper to replace than repair. Thus, one day your appliances will fail (especially full-time use) and need replacing. It looked difficult to get that dryer in place with an empty open space. What happens after everything is installed and the Splendide fails? Will the next machine's vent line up? I noticed the space for the washer is just a little bigger than it needs to be. Such is good as it gives room for a pull-out shelf over the washer which will also help keep the washer from tipping forward while also giving a little extra room should it be needed for a future machine that is just a little bigger. Just wondering what your thoughts were along those lines and if/how you planned for such issues.
I drive motorcoaches for a living and I can tell you it's the passenger side that sees the most shock, since everyone ( including me ) "drives by braille" at one point or another. :
Thanks Bill. Great things to think through. In regards to power for heating the water, we have a propane water heater on the bus so power use for that is minimal. For appliance placement, we were mostly concerned with balancing weight (frig and washer on opposite sides of the bus) and then plumbing arrangements. And you are right about planning for appliances to be replaced. We will have a removable side wall so we can access all of the plumbing and vents from the side. If we ever have to get a different unit with a different vent, we can replace the periscope with a different one.
I mentioned this before and I think you know about this, but ways to save water while boon docking. 1. Use and setup the Hour Shower ruclips.net/video/WgF9OoX0-w0/видео.html 2. If you would have separate gray and black tanks, you could set it up to use the gray water to flush the toilet, which would be zero fresh water used for the toilet. 3. You could use the Hour Shower idea from gray water to wash clothes to help extend the boon docking time, especially for jeans and outer wear, not for inner wear clothes. These are simple ideas that can aid in your quest. Something to think about that could be put to use.
Thanks Mr. Mudstud. We watched the video and it's a great concept. We will see how our boondockng life works out (we are beginners and that it like advanced boondocking). Maybe someday we will get there.
Tidy install, but seriously obstructed dryer venting. There's an internal obstruction in the vent box from the internal sheet metal overlap of the back of the top section 1/3 covering the opening of the bottom section. Should have radiused that to match the lower opening. Additionally, the box itself baffles the flow, and is a a big obstruction. Lastly, the outside flap doesn't open very much at all, and will really slow the airflow as it forces hot air down. It would have been useful to compare your baseline in home dryer performance to the performance with the periscope vent fully installed. It seems very likely you'll notice anecdotally that the dryer doesn't work as well installed in the bus. The lint issue in not trivial. Gas dryers are notorious for starting house fires in long or tortured vent runs that aren't cleaned out regularly, particularly the accordion plastic vent hoses that really collect lint. Electric dryers like yours aren't such a problem, but the drying performance of the unit will be critically related to that periscope being clean as a proverbial whistle. I notice the actual vent outlet on the machine is about 3" inside a 4" hose adapter, so you probably have enough outlet cross-sectional area, but having that vent exhaust slowing down and changing direction twice inside a baffled box is not optimal Fortunately, this is an easy thing to maintain with a small diameter vacuum attachment snaked into the outside vent to suck it out. Just do it regularly enough that the lint you're removing is still fluffy and fresh, not all packed and baked into a hard lining that won't easily vacuum out. This will be a regular maintenance procedure for you. If all this doesn't give you the performance you want, its easy enough to have a sheet metal shop that makes duct work fab you up a custom periscope that's round or transitions to an oval for the turns and back to round for the exit, is all smooth inside, and fits right up. You already have the pattern. And don't expect any hose clamp to be airtight- those joints should be foil taped as well. you may also need a deeper external vent cover that allows the flapper to open more. And there's a lot of lint in the drain water. That could foul your grey tank over time, but with that all depends on use. I would keep an eye on it. I used to clamp about a 12" end of an old nylon stocking over the outlet hose of my washer to keep that soap scummy, sticky lint it out of the undersized plumbing in my very old home. Shocking how much lint that traps out of the outlet hose. Finally, as you probably know, Splendide makes two 24" long emergency "Drain A Way" pans that fit under this unit with 1/2" drains, in order to save your flooring if the unit ever leaks. Part #P122 is 22 1/4" wide, and Part #P124 is 23 3/4". At about $50 for either, that seems like cheap insurance against water on the floor. If it were me, I'd seal the floor and walls around there with marine epoxy paint and get those wires up off the floor through there before putting the pan down. Mold is a serious and expensive problem, a bus is a humid environment, and it really only takes once- especially if you don't notice it. One last thing: Consider carving up a plug out of XPS or equivalent foam that fits perfectly into your outside vent, blocking the flapper closed. You can secure it with coin sized neodymium magnets- one epoxied to the inside of the flapper, the other set into the foam. This will keep the cold, insects and critters out of your washer. The dryer vent makes a lovely home for many creatures until they die there the next time you do laundry. Its best to then put a little magnetic sign on the face of the machine to remind you to remove the vent plug before using the dryer. Don't ask me how I know to do this... You a doing such a great job with your bus and sharing it so thoughtfully with the world. Report back on the performance you observe from this install. I know how meticulous you both are and its wonderful to watch. Subscribed.
Thanks so much for taking the time to share. We will definitely be making "clean the vent" part of regular maintenance on the bus. We will be traveling with a shop vac so likely we will add this to the kids' chores. We looked into the drain pan, but there wasn't a way to both use the drain pan and secure the feet. We deferred to securing it. We will have a water sensor to alert us to any leaks back there. We did coat all the floors in a marine epoxy before we built anything. We will also look into keeping the vent closed when we aren't using it. Great suggestion. Thanks again for joining!
Yes for sure. We never use liquid softener for just that reason. I wanted to see if it did make any difference because it was a recommendation for this machine...so I had to go and bought some. But haven't used it since. It was just part of the testing process. We typically just use vinegar if anything. If we are home while doing laundry, I will definitely put in the dryer balls before the dry cycle starts.
This is the best washer/dryer video on RUclips. Thank you for taking your time.
Really like the videos!
I believe those brackets for the washer are anti-tip brackets.
I have similar brackets for my oven and they would be installed on the back legs so you could slide the oven into them.
The purpose, again as I remember, is to prevent tip over when the door is opened as the weight will be shifted more to the front.
You may want to add some blocking to the underside of your countertop above the back of your washer to serve this purpose.
Keep up the good work!
Oh, one other thing. Think of a dryer as an air pump. It is gonna take air from inside your bus and vent it outside.
You’ll want to open a vent or window during drying otherwise, every source of outside air will be a path for air entry.
Think black water tank vent or possibly engine exhaust, might not be pleasant. Safe travels!
Good suggestions. We will look into that. Thanks
Hi Juan your solar system is awesome,you know Scott added eight panels to his bus,he will damn near have what you have
Lol! I think he actually has more than we have now. So happy for all of his power.
I really recommend upgrading those rubber hoses to stainless braided hoses. Not a huge cost difference, but much more reliable and longer lasting.
Thanks Greg. We will look into that.
Juan and Michelle another great video step by step. It makes sense the way you two do things. I am rooting for you every day. Stay safe and healthy. Thanks for sharing your video with us. Ed
Thanks so much Ed. Hope you are well!
This is such a well planned and executed project with an eye for every detail. The Bus will be legendary. 🚌 😍👍🙏
Oh. And I'm super excited to see a video of the Durango being towed. 😉
Thanks! We can't wait to try out towing the Durango. We have to swap out the previous owner's ball hitch and have a new 2" receiver welded on. That project will probably wait for just a bit.
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Thanks for sharing another great video with us!
Thanks Jerry
As always you two knock it out of the park. Great planning. Stay safe. Will be waiting for your next video
Thanks Duane.
Thats a great addition to your bus. I think well worth the space and weight it will take and also no reason you can't go the the laundry mat when you feel the need to.
Thanks Jerry! Yes we will definitely have to go to the laundromat periodically. But this should be day to day a little more convenient.
Hey guys very cool video as always. Just a quick thought, you might want to add the thickness of your flooring under your combo unit. There is two possible reasons for this idea. First is if the flooring is stepped up in front of your machine it maybe difficult to lift up and over the height difference. Second potential problem is if the unit leaks, sweats or the drain valve malfunctions you may not notice the water in till the water gets up to the floor level. Keep up the awesome work. Stay safe.
Great point Jay. We do plan on having some water sensors to alert us to any leaks.
Great job Juan! I did the same thing on the brackets on the feet for mine.
Thanks Josh! How's yours holding up? Do you have the same unit?
We have the exact same unit. Installed it a little over a year ago and it has been great. It vibrates the rig more than I expected but other than that we love it. There may be a pad you could put between it and the floor to cut down on that but I haven’t checked into it.
Awesome! Thanks Josh
Greetings from Ireland that was a great job well done .. stay safe
Thanks Aaron.
The best way to judge the amount of clothes per wash load is by weight. A girlfriend of mine mother was a big advocate of weighing and separating the laundry by colors (darks, colors, whites, grungies [dish towels, cleaning rags etc]) lastly she used "blueing" with her whites and added "borax" to other loads as a supplement to her regular laundry soap. If you don't dry the clothes totally dry and you have wrinkles just run a hot iron over them it will remove wrinkles and help dry clothes also from personal experience from living out of a suitcase fro a decade always hang you clothes after washing them to allow them to finish drying and then fold them.
Nice! I used a Magic Chef 3 cu ft I came up with a recycling system to use the same water for the wash and rise. I can wash all day long with the same 20 gallons of water. The machine use a total 11 gallons on large. I experiment with many different filters and came up with a perfect combo. On top of that, using different soaps.
Interesting! Glad that works...great way to save water.
Great job looking good be safe
Thanks Jeff!
Nice job as always!
Although I am CERTAIN you have allowed for this, the "periscope" vent is a notorious lint trap. Because of its indirect flow, lint WILL adhere to any, and every surface inside the vent. FYI... and cheers from here!
Thanks Robert. We plan on cleaning it out from outside on a regular basis.
Hi Juan and Michelle! I was wondering how much fun it was getting that band clamp tightened around the dryer vent on the lower section of the sliding vent where it slides over the black plastic vent piece that goes through the wall of the bus. The video didn't show that part but I was anticipating that being a little bit of a challenge :-)
I was wondering the same thing. I could see the two bands on there before the duct was put on the wall inside. There is some gap behind the back of cabinets though, but that would be some serious extension to go from the side to tighten the bands.
I don't think we got video of that because it was too tight to capture with the camera. But yes there is space behind the washer so we just reached back in there. It wasn't the easiest but not too bad.
A small suggestion if I may........It appears that there may be enough room between top of machine and bottom of bench top for a slide out shelf. Thanks for informative posting
Good idea and such a slide-out shelf would also work as a wedge to keep the machine from tipping forward. Nice touch.
Good idea. I'll have to go back and take a measurement.
It's a great choice I put one in my first bus conversion and it will dry the crap out of your clothes so be careful pulling them out its only got like 1500 watts of heat like a blow dryer at least that's what it sounds like anyway. I liked it.
But I decided to look at the LG washer dryer combo they have a 4.3 capacity wash cycle and a 7.2 dry cycle and a steam dry cycle I bought it used for 600
Bucks new there like 1700 there's no way I would buy one new just because of cost so when I saw it for 600 I jumped on it.
Still haven't gotten to the install yet but soon I hope. Oh periscope vent adapter
Great choice I used two one for the dryer and one for a jenn-air downdraft cooktop.
Great video you guys its really looking good.
The periscope adapter is a poor compromise aimed at homeowners and installers without the tools or skills to make a proper custom tubular dryer vent. They pack up quickly, and wind up being a fire hazard if not regularly cleaned out. On a cooktop vent, expect the periscope to be loaded up and dripping grease out of it without frequent (and difficult) maintenance. I'm very skeptical that Jenn-Air or any other manufacturer would approve that installation, but its a free country and by all means do as you please...
Glad you liked yours Brian. The LG sounds great too...you got an awesome deal. We do plan to make cleaning out the vent a part of regular bus maintenance so hopefully that won't cause any problems.
@@tommotrl I've never had any problems with mine even after 15+ years.
Oh no!! Are you aware that the 2100 XC is a right-hand open version but you have it on the left side of the bus?
I know...I'm just being silly. ;)
Looking forward to the finish on the small space left between the top of the washer/dryer and the bottom of the countertop. 👍👍
Yeah we will have to measure to see if we can make that space more functional.
@Beginningfromthismorning Just curious why you chose to use that horizontal check valve in the drain pipe and not just do an S-Trap in the drain line stand pipe behind the washer? Were you concerned the water would slosh out of the trap? Just wondering; thanks!! Beautiful job!!
We chose Hepvo waterless traps for all of our water traps. Partly for the reason you mentioned. We have heard reports from others of water sloshing out (although we know others that have not experienced that). They also take up much less room and do a great job of keeping smells out.
LOL the straps are fantastic to move large items. I had my macho pants on when I moved a number of heavy items. What I did not realize was that I actually bruised my forearms. I knew it the next day:)
Lol! We have put too many holes in our macho pants. The straps did help a ton though.
Hi Michelle and Juan I was just re watching the videos on your water tank installations. Is there any danger of the top of the tanks flexing due to liquid surges causing pipe breakages. It appears as though there is a large hollow in the tops of them. Greetings from locked down Queensland
Hi Stephen. Great observation - we were a little afraid of that as well but the tanks are very thick - I think the wall thickness is 3/8" and we have filled the tanks up and dumped them 3 different times while we were sanitizing the system and did not see any evidence of flex at all. We will keep a close eye on it of course but early testing leads us to believe that it shouldn't be a problem.
I used one of those periscope vent adjuster on a dryer. They do work well but have one big downside. They are a lint trap and need to be cleaned out ever so often to avoid being a fire hazard. So if you see a increase in the time needed to dry a load it may need a clean out.
Thank you William - cleaning out the dryer vent will be on the weekly rotation of "chores" for sure.
That splendide is made by indesit , In Italy , UK and romania are rebranded as indesit washers
Are you using a water meter app in your technology cabinet to monitor water usage and any possible leaks in the system.. and to help you know when the tank is low beside the visual aid on the tank itself?
Along with the above, I would add that total water used is = washed discharge + amount removed by drying. A meter would a better value..
We have the SeeLevel water level monitors on our tanks which will give us a better idea once we start using the washer in the bus. We will also have water sensors located in areas where we want to be sure there aren't leaks.
Forearm Forklifts are great :)
That is a really nice combo unit...and for $600 it was a steal!
10 gallons & 1.3KWh is actually pretty good...I don't think you could have done much better.
Thanks Gregory. We were happy to find a good deal on one and happier that we felt like the power and water usage were reasonable.
Hi Folks, I read through comments but no one seems to ask about the noise level of this unit. Did it seem acceptable to you when running? Sorry if I missed that part of the review. Great installation! I'm looking for a slightly larger capacity but all the 2.7 cu.ft. ones all seem to be non-vented. Rats! :)
Thank you Joel - we only ran the washer in our house. While the machine is not super quiet we don't recall it being terribly loud either. It seemed very acceptable to us but we will report back when we actually start using it in the bus. When we were researching everything we found said to stay away from the non-vented models. That may have changed since our research but that is what everybody kept saying.
Regarding the vent on the exterior: I wonder if the warm air will discolor your nice paint job. Maybe an aluminum deflector can be stuck on below the vent to dissipate the heat and moisture. I would guess that it would protect your paint from rust and discoloration.
i doubt aluminum will rust a whole lot. i am sure we will learn over time how the vent works
Thanks Kevin. That's definitely something we will keep an eye out for as we start using it.
Did you repaint the cut part of your body panel?
No we didn't. The bus is aluminum and shouldn't rust. We just cut and placed the vent in.
One question do you drain vent all to the roof of the bus? you have one tank for black and grey water it will produce a gas. 2: your toilet may leak gas the vent will stop it . 3: vent will help water drain in the tank. there is a RV vent cap.
Hi akdisney - yes we have a vent pipe that extends through the roof of our coach. We did a video on it when we were first plumbing some of the bus: ruclips.net/video/nIyDyhwVZ6c/видео.html
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You need to install "flood detection" behind the W/D as part of your Home Automation!!!
Thanks Dan. It's in the works in this location as well as a couple others.
Depending on where you are, hand washing and a clothesline will sometimes be a viable option. Doing a few articles of clothing each day can avoid the necessity of going to a laundromat which is expensive and boring.
Yeah definitely handwashing and drying is a great option when we can.
Great install on the Splendide The non vented ones are worthless... and you probably should buy an additional Control Board.. because when yours goes out... you won't be able to get a replacement.
We will have to look into that. Thanks Captain Sam!
1. Power Usage
I see you have a hot water line running to the Splendide so I assume it does not heat the water but uses water that is already heated. If you wash clothes in hot water, did you include the power needed to heat the water in your electricity usage calculations?
2. Bus Side Considerations
I was wondering if "Bus Side" (Driver's side v. Passenger side) was part of your layout consideration for anything. Generally speaking, items on the Driver's side of a vehicle/trailer will experience more severe shocks compared to the Passenger side. Because, eventually, everyone runs off the road, and Murphy's Law says such will happen when there is a bad shoulder or a hole. So the Driver's side of the vehicle/trailer is shock tested more often than the passenger's side. Thus, perhaps, one puts the more shock sensitive equipment on the passenger's side? Just curious.
3. Repair and Replacement
I hope you made those appliances easy to replace - and it looks like you did. I do not have very good luck at all with such appliances with regard to life span. These days things just seem to be built to work past the warranty period and fail, and in a way that is cheaper to replace than repair. Thus, one day your appliances will fail (especially full-time use) and need replacing. It looked difficult to get that dryer in place with an empty open space. What happens after everything is installed and the Splendide fails? Will the next machine's vent line up?
I noticed the space for the washer is just a little bigger than it needs to be. Such is good as it gives room for a pull-out shelf over the washer which will also help keep the washer from tipping forward while also giving a little extra room should it be needed for a future machine that is just a little bigger. Just wondering what your thoughts were along those lines and if/how you planned for such issues.
I drive motorcoaches for a living and I can tell you it's the passenger side that sees the most shock, since everyone ( including me ) "drives by braille" at one point or another. :
@@ewelmo3921 --- You are correct, of course, I got that backward - passenger side sees more shock. Thanks for catching that mistake.
Thanks Bill. Great things to think through. In regards to power for heating the water, we have a propane water heater on the bus so power use for that is minimal. For appliance placement, we were mostly concerned with balancing weight (frig and washer on opposite sides of the bus) and then plumbing arrangements. And you are right about planning for appliances to be replaced. We will have a removable side wall so we can access all of the plumbing and vents from the side. If we ever have to get a different unit with a different vent, we can replace the periscope with a different one.
I mentioned this before and I think you know about this, but ways to save water while boon docking.
1. Use and setup the Hour Shower ruclips.net/video/WgF9OoX0-w0/видео.html
2. If you would have separate gray and black tanks, you could set it up to use the gray water to flush the toilet, which would be zero fresh water used for the toilet.
3. You could use the Hour Shower idea from gray water to wash clothes to help extend the boon docking time, especially for jeans and outer wear, not for inner wear clothes.
These are simple ideas that can aid in your quest. Something to think about that could be put to use.
Thanks Mr. Mudstud. We watched the video and it's a great concept. We will see how our boondockng life works out (we are beginners and that it like advanced boondocking). Maybe someday we will get there.
Tidy install, but seriously obstructed dryer venting. There's an internal obstruction in the vent box from the internal sheet metal overlap of the back of the top section 1/3 covering the opening of the bottom section. Should have radiused that to match the lower opening. Additionally, the box itself baffles the flow, and is a a big obstruction. Lastly, the outside flap doesn't open very much at all, and will really slow the airflow as it forces hot air down. It would have been useful to compare your baseline in home dryer performance to the performance with the periscope vent fully installed. It seems very likely you'll notice anecdotally that the dryer doesn't work as well installed in the bus.
The lint issue in not trivial. Gas dryers are notorious for starting house fires in long or tortured vent runs that aren't cleaned out regularly, particularly the accordion plastic vent hoses that really collect lint. Electric dryers like yours aren't such a problem, but the drying performance of the unit will be critically related to that periscope being clean as a proverbial whistle. I notice the actual vent outlet on the machine is about 3" inside a 4" hose adapter, so you probably have enough outlet cross-sectional area, but having that vent exhaust slowing down and changing direction twice inside a baffled box is not optimal Fortunately, this is an easy thing to maintain with a small diameter vacuum attachment snaked into the outside vent to suck it out. Just do it regularly enough that the lint you're removing is still fluffy and fresh, not all packed and baked into a hard lining that won't easily vacuum out. This will be a regular maintenance procedure for you.
If all this doesn't give you the performance you want, its easy enough to have a sheet metal shop that makes duct work fab you up a custom periscope that's round or transitions to an oval for the turns and back to round for the exit, is all smooth inside, and fits right up. You already have the pattern. And don't expect any hose clamp to be airtight- those joints should be foil taped as well. you may also need a deeper external vent cover that allows the flapper to open more.
And there's a lot of lint in the drain water. That could foul your grey tank over time, but with that all depends on use. I would keep an eye on it. I used to clamp about a 12" end of an old nylon stocking over the outlet hose of my washer to keep that soap scummy, sticky lint it out of the undersized plumbing in my very old home. Shocking how much lint that traps out of the outlet hose.
Finally, as you probably know, Splendide makes two 24" long emergency "Drain A Way" pans that fit under this unit with 1/2" drains, in order to save your flooring if the unit ever leaks. Part #P122 is 22 1/4" wide, and Part #P124 is 23 3/4". At about $50 for either, that seems like cheap insurance against water on the floor. If it were me, I'd seal the floor and walls around there with marine epoxy paint and get those wires up off the floor through there before putting the pan down. Mold is a serious and expensive problem, a bus is a humid environment, and it really only takes once- especially if you don't notice it.
One last thing: Consider carving up a plug out of XPS or equivalent foam that fits perfectly into your outside vent, blocking the flapper closed. You can secure it with coin sized neodymium magnets- one epoxied to the inside of the flapper, the other set into the foam. This will keep the cold, insects and critters out of your washer. The dryer vent makes a lovely home for many creatures until they die there the next time you do laundry. Its best to then put a little magnetic sign on the face of the machine to remind you to remove the vent plug before using the dryer. Don't ask me how I know to do this...
You a doing such a great job with your bus and sharing it so thoughtfully with the world. Report back on the performance you observe from this install. I know how meticulous you both are and its wonderful to watch. Subscribed.
Thanks so much for taking the time to share. We will definitely be making "clean the vent" part of regular maintenance on the bus. We will be traveling with a shop vac so likely we will add this to the kids' chores. We looked into the drain pan, but there wasn't a way to both use the drain pan and secure the feet. We deferred to securing it. We will have a water sensor to alert us to any leaks back there. We did coat all the floors in a marine epoxy before we built anything. We will also look into keeping the vent closed when we aren't using it. Great suggestion. Thanks again for joining!
vinegar is cool but read the toxic chemicals in the fabric softener... & add the drier balls between washing & drying... skip the toxic softeners...
Yes for sure. We never use liquid softener for just that reason. I wanted to see if it did make any difference because it was a recommendation for this machine...so I had to go and bought some. But haven't used it since. It was just part of the testing process. We typically just use vinegar if anything. If we are home while doing laundry, I will definitely put in the dryer balls before the dry cycle starts.
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