@@Crazyhero-zi6ytI know right, mammut are the “apple” of the climbing. “coming out” with things that have been around for years and acting like it’s a massive leap they came up with..
@@Mdjagg ....because he is not testing his own stuff? 😂 iamgine you could have graded your essays in school yourself....do you reckon it'd would have been all the same grades? Bias is a thing, so you always want someone as close to neutral as possible to rate/review a product. because mammut would never come out and say: its ok, but the other companies is much better. or: yeah, its pretty shit. dont buy it. companies will always say their product is good, because they have to 🤷♂
They already do this. Its called the UIAA. Thinking a youtuber is qualified because he has a machine that pulls things is hilarious. Would you buy a life saving piece of equipment stamped "How Not To Highline Approved"? The world really is falling apart.
really appreciate you guys showing the exact test setup used to measure cut resistance, always great to see more development on cut-resistant ropes. an aramid 'undersheath' is a super clever way to go about it
I saw the "Hard is Easy" video and have to say I was impressed. I mostly boulder or autobelay at modest grades and I'm nowhere near being able to send [or even attempt!] the hard trad routes where this would be most useful, but I can see this providing an extra margin of safety in a lot of situations, especially as I genuinely enjoy aretes... Hopefully this spurs on further development and completion (notwithstanding the patent).
This is awesome. There’s a reason so many people look to Mammut when it’s time to buy a rope. I know which one I’m getting next. Also - Static version for rope access!!
saw this on ‘Hard is Easy’ video. congratulations on the release. i’m just grateful there are companies like yours making significant efforts to drive new innovations in climbing gear.
The 90 cm height is for a single rope, and the 75 cm is for the half rope. We reduced the height because the half rope is tested in single strand - and we are testing a 8.0 diameter half rope compared to a 9.5 mm single rope. Since the rope is thinner we have to reduce the height.
Big fan of Mammut! Innovating should never stop while there is room to improve. I only own two Mammut products but hopefully I can get my hands on this core protect rope soon :)
The (yellow) Aramid fibers are very strong and this makes the rope harder to cut. Apply tape, cut using a sharp knife. The aramid fiber will not burn, therefore it is good if the (white) polyamide fibers stick out further than the (yellow) aramid. Do burn the end to melt the polyamide.
cool to similar results on different fall height and rope thickness. I will say I was confused at first because I hadn't realized the very first test you performed was on the core protect rope, and I ended up doing some calculations to see what was going on: KE from 75cm = 586.7N-m KE from 90cm = 705.6N-m this is roughly .83% less kinetic energy being delivered to the rope on impact between the two tests, which perfectly matches the difference in rope thickness used: 8.0mm/9.5mm = .84% thickness I would love to see the time it took for the weight to stop moving after impact though!
noticed that too. looks sketchy to boast about how safe it is and then make totally different tests which rely on theoretical math. they need to make a real test, with real ropes, real height and real weight. Reality is often different from theory.
Thinking about using this for big walls. Do you know if the outer sheath being thinner would make it more likely that a toothed device or ascender might cut through it? If that happened, would you expect the outer sheath to slip on the inner aramid sheath? Basically, I’m wondering if a core protect or a thicker rope would be a better choice for a big wall that would involve a lot of jugging. What do you think?
I believe static ropes are already made of aramid since aramid doesn't stretch very much (which is why the aramid is wrapped with extra length in this rope: so it doesn't get fully stretched during a fall)
I was thinking about this as well. By reducing the fall distance, you are also reducing the fall factor. BUT after rewatching the video you can see that they were testing two different rope diameters in their two tests. 9.5mm and then 8.0mm.
The 90 cm height is for a single rope, and the 75 cm is for the half rope. We reduced the height because the half rope is tested in single strand - and we are testing a 8.0 diameter half rope compared to a 9.5 mm single rope. Since the rope is thinner we had to reduce the height.
These "how could you possibly know that about this product" moments brought to you by Hard is Easy and the weird testing scenarios he brings to the table.
is a core protect rope much heavier? edit: looks like it is somehow lighter? specs on the 9.5 alpine dry core protect show 59 g/m vs the 9.5 alpine dry at 60g/m
@@telkmxI think they reduced the outer sheath not the inner core. They mentioned it in the hard is easy video. It’s all a bit of give and take. You get much better cut resistance but you lose out on a little durability due to the thinner outer sheath.
This is correct. The core protect rope has slightly less material in the sheath to make room for the aramid sheath and that is why the weight is more or less the same.
Great video and fantastic innovation. Are the ends of the rope as durable or better still are they more durable than a standard rope?. As in how long before the ends of the rope need to be cut compared to a standard rope specifically when used for sport climbing.
This rope has slightly less material in the outer cover to make room for the aramid. This means that it is not quite as durable as the standard 9.5 Dry when used for sport climbing. This is something we also see in our lab tests. But we also know that the rope has survived several trips to Patagonia, which is a very good sign and an indication that the ropes are very durable for mountaineering.
Look for the yellow aramid fibers. If you see them through the outer sheath, then it is time to cut or replace the rope. If you only check by hand, then you should pull the rope through your hand and check for abnormalities. If the core feels super stiff or if it has soft spots, this is an indication that something is wrong.
Hi, thank you for your video! Did you test the edelrid swift with the same scenario? i habe to make a choice beetween this 2 differents model. Has mountain guide i would like the strongest for my clients... Thank you in advance.
Is a static rope with the rope protect system also planned? That looks like an interesting innovation for prof. tree climbers to reduce the risks while cutting with handsaws next to our ropes.
When will you guys put this technology into polymide static ropes? This would be especially useful for caving where sharp limestone is commonly encountered.
Both rope technologies offer increased cut resistance compared to a conventional climbing rope. The main difference is that the Core Protect technology focuses on maintaining the dynamic aspects of the rope as much as possible.
As you mentioned any rope can be cut under the right circumstances. the 9.5 Core protect rope was tested in this video at 90cm of slack and the 8.0 at 75 cm of slack. Can you comment on whether the 8.0 was able to succeed at all with 90cm of slack? Or were the results more consistent at 75cm? I'm curious to catalogue the different thicknesses and what general cut resistances to expect. Thanks!
Why did you reduce the fall height when testing the Core Protect compared to the thicker ropes? The result is impressive none the less, but why not do all of them at 75cm and show that they can withstand at least as much as way thicker ropes in equal tests?
@@raisaga9273 yes but given the rope is supposed to be a revolution wouldn’t you think it should be given the same test circumstances? Cause you dont really choose your fall height when on an actual wall..
Is there anything in particular that needs to be considered when ending the rope after it has been shortened? Should I glue the end or is melting it enough? When can we expect a similar solution in static ropes?
This comes suspiciously close to that video called "The Last Unsolved Problem of Climbing Ropes" of 2 weeks ago lol. This must be some coordinated marketing thing no?
Due to how the aramid fibres are weaved does this mean that if I cut my rope ends down it reduces the effectiveness of the mid (aramid) sheath and therefore the entire ropes superior protectiveness?
what about kevlar? i know nothing about rope design, but everyone raves about kevlar in other application so why not something like that? is it just not abrasion resistant or something?
Does the core protect rope weigh more than a dry rope of the same size? Even if it weighs significantly more I would still use it, but as a climber with chicken legs and no cardio, weight means a lot to me c:
We know that the aramid makes the ropes more resistant to cutting, based on the edge test, the sharp carabiner test and facts about the material itself. It is very difficult to test a rockfall because every impact is different, making it impossible to get a valid comparison.
Good question. Yes, many different loads and angles could be tested. We decided to go with the granite edge test because it has an angle & load that is very realistic and it delivers consistent test results.
I understand this might be a trade secret, but I'm curious about how you maintain quality control. Do you take samples from production and test them? Could you share some insights into your process? I'm doing research for my class, so I'm going through the materials you posted online to learn about your method of quality control.
It confuses me why using two different heights to compare the ropes. The first scenario where regular ropes would fail the fall was 90cm. And the Core Protect Rope was tested with 75cm. I would expect the same height for all tests, how does it perform with the same 90cm drop height?
The 90cm height is for a single rope, and the 75cm is for the half rope. We reduced the height because the half rope is tested in single strand. And we are testing a 8.0 diameter half rope compared to a 9.5 mm single rope. Since the rope is thinner we have to reduce the height.
This rope is tested in the EN test and we fulfill it. We also have a lot of core protect ropes out with climbers and mountain guides and core slippage has not been an issue.
This seems like a great idea and implementation. However I am a bit dissapointed by the video: as far as I can tell, all shown tests resultet in cut ropes ... I would assume that there must be a scenario that shows more clearly the elevated cut resistance. Did I just miss that?
Yeah, a little hard to spot between all the clips of ropes being cut, but at 3:36 they show the 9.5 mm core protected rope withstanding the cut. The outer sheath gets cut, but the middle sheath keeps the rope from snapping all the way.
@@Tito_9612 I see - thank you for pointing this out. This might be the first time I wish the marketing department would have done a better job reviewing the video ;).
Price 😂 in a gym you wont run the danger of a cut, so why whip on the $$$ line. I use a regular classic crag not dry coated no nothing for regular sport crags and gym climbing. Id use the cut resistant one for trad and alpine.
Well, the downside is that it costs more. It a bit like driving around with a Jeep in the city. Yes, it is doable... But does it make sense? One of our other ropes would likely be more fitting for a gym setting.
But does it come in pink? Love the innovation and the thought put in this. Hope that with the introduction of AI into the testing methods we can come up with a standardised test that accounts for many of the factors that play a role in cutting of ropes.
Edelrid made something similar 4 years ago, but in the outer sheath. You are claiming that Aramid on the outside will damage your carabiner and does not last as long as it's exposed to UV light. Are these factors significant or are you just dropping insignificant facts to lure customers away from Edelrid to you?
Кусок пожарного шланга, армированный резиновый шланг или, когда ахтунг, полуторалитровая пустая бутылка. Но то не в горах конечно)))) Но, как вариант...
Is this kind of accident (the corde cutting) really plausible on a rope that is properly checked regularly? Otherwise, this might become the new standard
I am disappointed. The experiment is flaved. You should DEFINATELY keep all other variables the same when comparing the ropes. That means using the same slack in the system for all the ropes tested. Then we could actually learn something. The way the experiment is designed, we can not know if it is the different fall height or the aramid fibres that make the new rope perform better. I really thought Mammut would be more scientifically sound than this.
The fall mass, granite edge, and sample length remained the same for all tests. Only the fall height differed based on rope classification. All our single ropes, ranging from 9.5 mm - 10.2 mm including the 9.5 Alpine Core Protect Dry, were tested with 90 cm fall height. Double ropes, diameter range 7.5 mm - 9.0 mm including the 8.0 Alpine Core Protect Dry rope were tested with 75 cm fall height. The test results within the same rope classification are comparable and that’s what we did. This is why we can confidently state that the 9.5 Core Protect outperforms all other single ropes in our assortment. Half ropes by classification are always tested with a lower impact compared to single ropes. That’s why we chose a reduced fall height to comply with the classification.
Thank you for making actual innovations. The rope industry feels so static most of the time
I see what you did there
Good one.
edelrid already has an aramide enforced rope
Luckily Mammut does quite some cutting-edge research!
@@Crazyhero-zi6ytI know right, mammut are the “apple” of the climbing. “coming out” with things that have been around for years and acting like it’s a massive leap they came up with..
send some to ryan from HowNot2 !!!!!
wanted to write exactly this. You were first but 100% agree.
Why? Mammut's testing is next level compared to a RUclipsr!
@@Mdjagg ....because he is not testing his own stuff? 😂
iamgine you could have graded your essays in school yourself....do you reckon it'd would have been all the same grades?
Bias is a thing, so you always want someone as close to neutral as possible to rate/review a product.
because mammut would never come out and say: its ok, but the other companies is much better.
or: yeah, its pretty shit. dont buy it.
companies will always say their product is good, because they have to 🤷♂
They already do this. Its called the UIAA. Thinking a youtuber is qualified because he has a machine that pulls things is hilarious. Would you buy a life saving piece of equipment stamped "How Not To Highline Approved"? The world really is falling apart.
@@Mdjagg maybe we just like the guy
Braiding the static cord in there was some brilliant engineering.
So simple, so smart!
hard is easy gang rise up!
It was a pleasure to meet you guys and help with the super slow-mo on this video! :)
really appreciate you guys showing the exact test setup used to measure cut resistance, always great to see more development on cut-resistant ropes. an aramid 'undersheath' is a super clever way to go about it
I saw the "Hard is Easy" video and have to say I was impressed. I mostly boulder or autobelay at modest grades and I'm nowhere near being able to send [or even attempt!] the hard trad routes where this would be most useful, but I can see this providing an extra margin of safety in a lot of situations, especially as I genuinely enjoy aretes... Hopefully this spurs on further development and completion (notwithstanding the patent).
This is awesome. There’s a reason so many people look to Mammut when it’s time to buy a rope. I know which one I’m getting next.
Also - Static version for rope access!!
saw this on ‘Hard is Easy’ video. congratulations on the release. i’m just grateful there are companies like yours making significant efforts to drive new innovations in climbing gear.
How did the core protect rope do in the 90cm test? And why was the test adapted to 75cm?
The 90 cm height is for a single rope, and the 75 cm is for the half rope. We reduced the height because the half rope is tested in single strand - and we are testing a 8.0 diameter half rope compared to a 9.5 mm single rope. Since the rope is thinner we have to reduce the height.
it’s unfortunate you have to skew the test..
@@mammutwhen will the full rope 90cm drop test be conducted?
@@collinfranks hey, look at @alex_shaner's comment. that might be a good explanation?
@@AuxiliaryPantherthey did @ 3:25, before the half rope test.
Big fan of Mammut! Innovating should never stop while there is room to improve. I only own two Mammut products but hopefully I can get my hands on this core protect rope soon :)
We're happy to hear!!
What an awesome transparent video, appreciate it.
It's exciting to see Mammut creating something that keeps climbers a little safer!
You got my "like" at the vaccum part! LOL 😀 Good work Mammut!
Can you still cut and burn the end when it gets too worn at the ends?
The (yellow) Aramid fibers are very strong and this makes the rope harder to cut. Apply tape, cut using a sharp knife. The aramid fiber will not burn, therefore it is good if the (white) polyamide fibers stick out further than the (yellow) aramid. Do burn the end to melt the polyamide.
@@mammut Could you provide an instruction with pictures on how to do the cutting properly? Great innovation, thank you Mammut engineers!
cool to similar results on different fall height and rope thickness. I will say I was confused at first because I hadn't realized the very first test you performed was on the core protect rope, and I ended up doing some calculations to see what was going on:
KE from 75cm = 586.7N-m
KE from 90cm = 705.6N-m
this is roughly .83% less kinetic energy being delivered to the rope on impact between the two tests, which perfectly matches the difference in rope thickness used:
8.0mm/9.5mm = .84% thickness
I would love to see the time it took for the weight to stop moving after impact though!
noticed that too.
looks sketchy to boast about how safe it is and then make totally different tests which rely on theoretical math.
they need to make a real test, with real ropes, real height and real weight. Reality is often different from theory.
Thinking about using this for big walls. Do you know if the outer sheath being thinner would make it more likely that a toothed device or ascender might cut through it? If that happened, would you expect the outer sheath to slip on the inner aramid sheath?
Basically, I’m wondering if a core protect or a thicker rope would be a better choice for a big wall that would involve a lot of jugging. What do you think?
will you be offering a static version for industrial use?
DO IT
I believe static ropes are already made of aramid since aramid doesn't stretch very much (which is why the aramid is wrapped with extra length in this rope: so it doesn't get fully stretched during a fall)
Semistatic/static ropes are made of polyamid just like dynamic ropes. Aramid are mostly used in static ropes for better heat resistans.
Our production partner Teufelberger will be offering a static version.
@@mammut cheers
Nice Job Magnus!
I am an Edelrid fan, but my next rope will be a Mammut! So cool!!
Not crazy expensive either. Nicely done
So amazing! Great work Mammut team.
Ropeunzel! No more Grimm Tales of cut ropes !🤣😀🤣
Awesome! Thanks Magnus! 💪
I work in rope access and this could be pretty awesome price pending
Why was the fall distance reduced in the last test? Why not test the new rope same way as the old, or did I missunderstand?
I was thinking about this as well. By reducing the fall distance, you are also reducing the fall factor. BUT after rewatching the video you can see that they were testing two different rope diameters in their two tests. 9.5mm and then 8.0mm.
The 90 cm height is for a single rope, and the 75 cm is for the half rope. We reduced the height because the half rope is tested in single strand - and we are testing a 8.0 diameter half rope compared to a 9.5 mm single rope. Since the rope is thinner we had to reduce the height.
These "how could you possibly know that about this product" moments brought to you by Hard is Easy and the weird testing scenarios he brings to the table.
is a core protect rope much heavier?
edit: looks like it is somehow lighter? specs on the 9.5 alpine dry core protect show 59 g/m vs the 9.5 alpine dry at 60g/m
Yeah because they had to reduce the inner core size to make it the same width
@@telkmxI think they reduced the outer sheath not the inner core. They mentioned it in the hard is easy video. It’s all a bit of give and take. You get much better cut resistance but you lose out on a little durability due to the thinner outer sheath.
@@hardcorebanana97 Oh ive seen the video and heard inner sheath because outer is already so thin but okk would make sense to keep fall ratings
This is correct. The core protect rope has slightly less material in the sheath to make room for the aramid sheath and that is why the weight is more or less the same.
@@mammut wouldn't it cause faster wear on not "cutting", but "grinding" scenario? Like simply pulling the rope up over some edges while climbing?
well made video! Great engineering
When will they be released for purchasing and how much will they cost? I can’t wait😊
Great video and fantastic innovation.
Are the ends of the rope as durable or better still are they more durable than a standard rope?.
As in how long before the ends of the rope need to be cut compared to a standard rope specifically when used for sport climbing.
This rope has slightly less material in the outer cover to make room for the aramid. This means that it is not quite as durable as the standard 9.5 Dry when used for sport climbing. This is something we also see in our lab tests. But we also know that the rope has survived several trips to Patagonia, which is a very good sign and an indication that the ropes are very durable for mountaineering.
Why didn't I think of that. This is amazing!
Love the rope. Love the hair dye just as much 😆
Please do the same for semi static ropes. In canyoning abrasion is one o the majeaur issus specially in basalt and granite.
How does checking for core damage on the rope work when checking by hand?
Look for the yellow aramid fibers. If you see them through the outer sheath, then it is time to cut or replace the rope. If you only check by hand, then you should pull the rope through your hand and check for abnormalities. If the core feels super stiff or if it has soft spots, this is an indication that something is wrong.
Hi, thank you for your video! Did you test the edelrid swift with the same scenario? i habe to make a choice beetween this 2 differents model. Has mountain guide i would like the strongest for my clients... Thank you in advance.
Would love to see this tech in even thicker options
When is it going to be available in Australia?
Sehr cool! Und hoffentlich auch ohne PFAS erhältlich!
Is a static rope with the rope protect system also planned? That looks like an interesting innovation for prof. tree climbers to reduce the risks while cutting with handsaws next to our ropes.
@mammut
7 days ago
Our production partner Teufelberger will be offering a static version.
Quoted from an earlier response
How does the handling of Aramid ropes compare to Polyamide ropes? Are they more difficult to knot due to their material properties
When will you guys put this technology into polymide static ropes? This would be especially useful for caving where sharp limestone is commonly encountered.
If anyone else was curious. The 9.5 is the same weight as their other ropes of the same diameter
I was wondering why no rope company just used Aramid or Kevlar to prevent cutting.
How does this rope compare to the edelrid swift protect?
Both rope technologies offer increased cut resistance compared to a conventional climbing rope. The main difference is that the Core Protect technology focuses on maintaining the dynamic aspects of the rope as much as possible.
Hello! These ropes look amazing! I'm in Australia and wondering when you are going to be selling here?
As you mentioned any rope can be cut under the right circumstances. the 9.5 Core protect rope was tested in this video at 90cm of slack and the 8.0 at 75 cm of slack. Can you comment on whether the 8.0 was able to succeed at all with 90cm of slack? Or were the results more consistent at 75cm? I'm curious to catalogue the different thicknesses and what general cut resistances to expect. Thanks!
Why did you reduce the fall height when testing the Core Protect compared to the thicker ropes? The result is impressive none the less, but why not do all of them at 75cm and show that they can withstand at least as much as way thicker ropes in equal tests?
Sounds great but why do you visualize the Core Protect report severing at 2:36!?
Read the text on the left-hand side of the video during that scene.
"but from a reduced hight" come on now lol.... always some slick wording in these test from big companies.
the comment from @alex_shaner might properly explain why. reduced height gives 83% of the energy, and the rope is 84% smaller
@@raisaga9273 yes but given the rope is supposed to be a revolution wouldn’t you think it should be given the same test circumstances? Cause you dont really choose your fall height when on an actual wall..
Is there anything in particular that needs to be considered when ending the rope after it has been shortened? Should I glue the end or is melting it enough?
When can we expect a similar solution in static ropes?
This comes suspiciously close to that video called "The Last Unsolved Problem of Climbing Ropes" of 2 weeks ago lol.
This must be some coordinated marketing thing no?
thinking the same
Not at all.........
Would that even be a bad thing? More people need to know this exists, to get more people to be safer. Seems like a classic win-win.
What a feat of marketing genius. I mean it's a great innovation either way.
Of course it is... And why wouldn't they? They have an innovative product. Are they not allowed to promote it?
Due to how the aramid fibres are weaved does this mean that if I cut my rope ends down it reduces the effectiveness of the mid (aramid) sheath and therefore the entire ropes superior protectiveness?
On your website it has a 3/6 rating for sport climbing. Why is that? And is the lifetime of the rope equal to "normal" ropes?
what about kevlar? i know nothing about rope design, but everyone raves about kevlar in other application so why not something like that? is it just not abrasion resistant or something?
@hardiseasy 's video explained everything about this rope !
Are there less strand of polyamide, because of the aramid layer?
Do a real test again where u compare the same rope, with the same weight and the SAME height.
Why did you test it from reduced height?
will you be comparing it in Edelrid's test setup too?
Would have been good to show the slow mo of the core protect rope
nice test rig!! any chance to see the core protect compared to beal's unicore technology?
Can you cut this rope with a knife when the ends are worn out or do you need a hot wire rope cutter?
What about spider silk?
Does the core protect rope weigh more than a dry rope of the same size? Even if it weighs significantly more I would still use it, but as a climber with chicken legs and no cardio, weight means a lot to me c:
Will you be making a non-dry version of this rope?
We will continue developing this product. Exactly what we will bring to the market in the future is nothing we can share at the moment.
Regarding rockfalls, how does it compare to a standard rope? Really impressive tests btw!
We know that the aramid makes the ropes more resistant to cutting, based on the edge test, the sharp carabiner test and facts about the material itself. It is very difficult to test a rockfall because every impact is different, making it impossible to get a valid comparison.
Why not use HMPE fiber as mid-layer?
We tried all sorts of fibers and Aramid performed the best in our wide range of test series.
How does the weight compare to your standard dry ropes?
Hi Mammut! have you considered running a cut test at different loads/angles?
Good question. Yes, many different loads and angles could be tested. We decided to go with the granite edge test because it has an angle & load that is very realistic and it delivers consistent test results.
Where is the test of the 9.5 "Core Protect" single rope ?
How is the weight?
I understand this might be a trade secret, but I'm curious about how you maintain quality control. Do you take samples from production and test them? Could you share some insights into your process? I'm doing research for my class, so I'm going through the materials you posted online to learn about your method of quality control.
is it havier?
Is there a plan to makr this in a 11mm ststadic. To be used for i industtrial use ?
Our production partner Teufelberger will be offering a static version.
Great Stuff
Website has the 60m online now. Any idea when the 70m will become available?
The 70m version will be in stock again at the end of June!
It confuses me why using two different heights to compare the ropes. The first scenario where regular ropes would fail the fall was 90cm. And the Core Protect Rope was tested with 75cm. I would expect the same height for all tests, how does it perform with the same 90cm drop height?
The 90cm height is for a single rope, and the 75cm is for the half rope. We reduced the height because the half rope is tested in single strand. And we are testing a 8.0 diameter half rope compared to a 9.5 mm single rope. Since the rope is thinner we have to reduce the height.
Quick question, Will "Core Protect Rope" save my marriage??
Good question - we'll check with the team. Probably not though.
How do these ropes perform in terms of core slippage / Mantelverschiebung? Does the aramide layer introduce some movement?
This rope is tested in the EN test and we fulfill it. We also have a lot of core protect ropes out with climbers and mountain guides and core slippage has not been an issue.
@@mammut that's great to hear.
This seems like a great idea and implementation. However I am a bit dissapointed by the video: as far as I can tell, all shown tests resultet in cut ropes ... I would assume that there must be a scenario that shows more clearly the elevated cut resistance. Did I just miss that?
Yeah, a little hard to spot between all the clips of ropes being cut, but at 3:36 they show the 9.5 mm core protected rope withstanding the cut. The outer sheath gets cut, but the middle sheath keeps the rope from snapping all the way.
@@Tito_9612 I see - thank you for pointing this out. This might be the first time I wish the marketing department would have done a better job reviewing the video ;).
Are there downsides to using this in a more casual setting, i.e. gym or sport routes?
Price 😂 in a gym you wont run the danger of a cut, so why whip on the $$$ line. I use a regular classic crag not dry coated no nothing for regular sport crags and gym climbing. Id use the cut resistant one for trad and alpine.
Well, the downside is that it costs more. It a bit like driving around with a Jeep in the city. Yes, it is doable... But does it make sense? One of our other ropes would likely be more fitting for a gym setting.
natural hair color?
But does it come in pink?
Love the innovation and the thought put in this.
Hope that with the introduction of AI into the testing methods we can come up with a standardised test that accounts for many of the factors that play a role in cutting of ropes.
what‘s the specific weight and what diameter will be available for single and double?
You'll find the weight and diameter on the product page: www.mammut.com/ch/de/products/2010-04600-11288/9-5-alpine-core-protect-dry-rope
Hopp Schwiiz!!
Edelrid made something similar 4 years ago, but in the outer sheath. You are claiming that Aramid on the outside will damage your carabiner and does not last as long as it's exposed to UV light. Are these factors significant or are you just dropping insignificant facts to lure customers away from Edelrid to you?
Кусок пожарного шланга, армированный резиновый шланг или, когда ахтунг, полуторалитровая пустая бутылка. Но то не в горах конечно)))) Но, как вариант...
Is this kind of accident (the corde cutting) really plausible on a rope that is properly checked regularly? Otherwise, this might become the new standard
also, how much more does it cost to manufacture? (not industrial spying, just curious)
It is plausible and has happened with dire consequences. Luckily it’s rare. Have gotten close myself with some sharp rocks
it is currently the biggest weakness of dynamic climbing ropes... so yes
It is rare but some rope Breaks occur almost every season. If it happens to you you die (usually)...
YESSSSSSS AMAZING
idk how I got here. i've never bought a rope or climbed before in my life.
The goal should be to make safety equipment so good it downgrades trad climbs
People generally dont know what polyamide is, its typically called nylon. Are you not allowed to say nylon or something?
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Another option is not go climbing
Obviously this guys English isn’t good but damn is he bad at acting.
Who said he was acting? 😂 This is an actual employee of Mammut - our Climbing Gear Product Manager to be precise.
I am disappointed. The experiment is flaved. You should DEFINATELY keep all other variables the same when comparing the ropes. That means using the same slack in the system for all the ropes tested. Then we could actually learn something. The way the experiment is designed, we can not know if it is the different fall height or the aramid fibres that make the new rope perform better. I really thought Mammut would be more scientifically sound than this.
They literally test their ropes under the same conditions. Better rewatch the video 😅
The fall mass, granite edge, and sample length remained the same for all tests. Only the fall height differed based on rope classification. All our single ropes, ranging from 9.5 mm - 10.2 mm including the 9.5 Alpine Core Protect Dry, were tested with 90 cm fall height. Double ropes, diameter range 7.5 mm - 9.0 mm including the 8.0 Alpine Core Protect Dry rope were tested with 75 cm fall height. The test results within the same rope classification are comparable and that’s what we did. This is why we can confidently state that the 9.5 Core Protect outperforms all other single ropes in our assortment.
Half ropes by classification are always tested with a lower impact compared to single ropes. That’s why we chose a reduced fall height to comply with the classification.
If your rope is anything like your jackets, I’m not buying one. Some of the most overpriced and under-reliable gear I’ve ever owned.
We need HardIsEasy!
or should I say YOU need HardIsEasy.