Really surprised not to see Ocelot Pride on this list. There are a lot of ridiculous one drops these days but that one is definitely something else. An Annointed Procession that also makes tokens itself? Seems pretty good
I'd also include Emperor of Bones, Marionette Apprentice, Springheart Nantuko, Monstrous Vortex on this list as well as the MDFC lands, especially Disciple of Freyalise
Holy shit! I thought that amphibian downpour was “till end of turn” so I thought it wasn’t that good.. still potentially useful. Like a dress down affect. But I thought it wasn’t quite there. Now I want them for my cedh decks
I bought a ton of Worldwake/Battle for Zendikar packs back in the day, and so I had a bunch of mediocre Eldrazi. I made them into a few different decks based on the various themes and colors, one of which was Eldrazi Scions. I'm really looking forward to building Azlask, the Swelling Scourge with all my scion/spawn cards. Also, I'm really looking forward to making an Abzan land reanimator deck with The Necrobloom. Six help with that a lot, too.
Not sure if its omitted due to energy mechanic reasons, but Chthonian Nightmare is going to be insanely impactful in EDH. Easy to cast and creates flexible value loops that synergize with all manner of ETB and creature death triggers.
I know you said you weren't including "energy specific" cards... but Chthonian Nightmare is not energy specific... It includes energy in the card, yes. However, that is probably one of the top 3 most powerful cards to come from this set.
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
It is absolutely insane to put phasing out on a land, especially since you can't respond to someone playing a land so that effect is going on the stack no matter what
I think many people are too concerned about Kozilek's Command being too hard to cast. Many mana rocks produce colorless mana, some with colors like the talisman cycle. There are many, many utilty lands that only produce colorless mana like rogue's passage, kessig wolf run, or reliquary tower, to name a few. Even the nonbasic slot, such as the pain lands like yavimaya coast or filterlands like mystic gate can produce colorless mana. Kozilek's Command can go right into the Eldrazi precon for example with no issues. Any deck with a sufficient amount of colorless sources is capable of running it even if you have to run straight up wastes for some reason.
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
I'd say don't sleep on Waterlogged Teachings, but it's an uncommon and will probably be available everywhere for under $0.25 pretty soon. No one cares about instant tutor effects that cost 4, right? You're just gonna play it as a land most of the time because you're not running enough land in your deck.
Question about Six. It specifically says you can CAST permanent cards from the graveyard. Doesn’t that mean you actually can’t get lands back, because you PLAY lands instead of casting them? Or were ya’ll saying you needed the Crucible in addition? I ran into this distinction in one of my decks and it kinda boned me. So either we got that ruling wrong (and I’m a happy boy) or Six works for any permanent BUT lands.
Is nobody gonna talk about the potential of ugins unbinding in modern? I feel like there is going to be a really good yet annoying strategy around running 4 copies lol
Yes, a token has always mana value of 0 unless the token is a copy of another permanent, in which case the token copies its mana cost (and thus mana value).
Ulamog as a reanimation target with virtue of persistence seems pretty good... As i think on an adventure it counts as mana value 9 ... and can later reanimate an ulamog .... Its such an ugly card ... 😅
@JakeandJoelareMagic Haha, I had to reread it to confirm. Sometimes, reading things online, you miss the punctuations and whatnot. If only...scry 7 on end step for 2 comes in MH4 haha
@@JakeandJoelareMagic Nice. I've been watching your videos for years now, back when you averaged 1500 views per video. I used to comment on other content creators that your channel is better. But hey I guess you guys made it now. Good luck out there with wotc's dick in your mouths.
How did we not have Nadu, Winged Wisdom on this list
We can't bring ourselves to acknowledge the simic value engine, we could have one video per set on this
in response to that shot at Simic I’ll reveal the top card of my library and put a land into play
Because it’s a garbage design no one will play against 😂
@@JakeandJoelareMagic but it is THE best commander card in the entire set...
Big shout out to Jake and Joel for great MTG content!
Really surprised not to see Ocelot Pride on this list. There are a lot of ridiculous one drops these days but that one is definitely something else. An Annointed Procession that also makes tokens itself? Seems pretty good
I'd also include Emperor of Bones, Marionette Apprentice, Springheart Nantuko, Monstrous Vortex on this list as well as the MDFC lands, especially Disciple of Freyalise
Doing commander content about a modern set. Were going thrue dark places
I am with Jake, I love my Karador deck. There are so many cards in this set that will slot right in. Can't wait to get them in hand.
Holy shit! I thought that amphibian downpour was “till end of turn” so I thought it wasn’t that good.. still potentially useful. Like a dress down affect. But I thought it wasn’t quite there.
Now I want them for my cedh decks
Seems like a good place given the amount of spells that happen each turn!
@@JakeandJoelareMagicStella Lee and other dedicated storm decks are absolutely salivating over it
Thanks for the analysis guys!
As a main commander player, this set feels amazing. I know nothing about modern but man it has loads of amazing cards for commander horizons 3. ;)
Dreamtide Whale will be a perfect fit in my Mothman radiation/infect deck
I'm really digging Ripples of Undeath... If you can get it out early in the game, the Value is going to be Amazing
I bought a ton of Worldwake/Battle for Zendikar packs back in the day, and so I had a bunch of mediocre Eldrazi. I made them into a few different decks based on the various themes and colors, one of which was Eldrazi Scions. I'm really looking forward to building Azlask, the Swelling Scourge with all my scion/spawn cards.
Also, I'm really looking forward to making an Abzan land reanimator deck with The Necrobloom. Six help with that a lot, too.
Not sure if its omitted due to energy mechanic reasons, but Chthonian Nightmare is going to be insanely impactful in EDH. Easy to cast and creates flexible value loops that synergize with all manner of ETB and creature death triggers.
Nice Magnolia reference!
So many great cards. Biggest problem is what to take out of all my decks, and keeping power level low enough for EDH...
Great content guys, as per usual. I'm tempted to make the new Kozilek the commander over Butcher.
The Kaalia reprints are so good 🤌
The wife and I had a good long discussion about which Kaalia full arts are the best and we both agreed the MH3 one is just too good to be beat
Thinking on making a commander deck with Nadu, Winged Wisdom. Seems really op.
My first commander from this set will be an Azlask 5 color experience deck, and a lot of these cards will be in it.
Amphibian Downpour seems like it should have been in the UB Final Fantasy set.
White Orchid Phantom seems good as well. Targeted nonbasic land destruction with a 2/2 flying first striker is a good rate.
17:21 there's a dog that phases out of existence
Nice! Didn’t realize Drew Tucker was still active
Love rotating the commander format
Six with bouncelands is sick!!
I know you said you weren't including "energy specific" cards... but Chthonian Nightmare is not energy specific... It includes energy in the card, yes. However, that is probably one of the top 3 most powerful cards to come from this set.
Warren Soultrader is going into my Chatterfang Deck For Sure. 💯
Wight of the Reliquary seems fun as well. Another way to search for Maze's End.
Vexing Bauble seems like it would be good in a lot of decks.
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
It is absolutely insane to put phasing out on a land, especially since you can't respond to someone playing a land so that effect is going on the stack no matter what
@27:13 yeah that spells got very high big mana deck energy.
Can't wait to get my collector box!!
Great breakdown and analysis as always!
Thanks JaJaM!!! This set looks so crazy good.
Loving some of this new art!
Thank you so much for this video. This is the first I am hearing of this set
I think many people are too concerned about Kozilek's Command being too hard to cast. Many mana rocks produce colorless mana, some with colors like the talisman cycle. There are many, many utilty lands that only produce colorless mana like rogue's passage, kessig wolf run, or reliquary tower, to name a few. Even the nonbasic slot, such as the pain lands like yavimaya coast or filterlands like mystic gate can produce colorless mana.
Kozilek's Command can go right into the Eldrazi precon for example with no issues. Any deck with a sufficient amount of colorless sources is capable of running it even if you have to run straight up wastes for some reason.
Always appreciate the excellent content, gentlemen 👌
Everyone is freaking out about all these big flashy cards. Talon gates of madara is going to be one of the most impactful lands in commander. If you view this as an MDFC with a kicker cost…it’s just wrong. No land should do this.
It does seems pretty spicy.
Look at all these potatoes we farmed 🥔!
Honestly I think Cemetery Tampering is on par or better than ripples of undeath. One more mana but the hideaway can get you a free bomb.
This set looks lit. Excited to draft
Great vid, as always! 👊🏻
I’m stoked for this set. So many new staples.
There’s literally not a single bad rare that I can think of….
WOC getting it so right by sponsoring my boissss
Necrodominance seems fine but it's not going to have much of an MtgA impact yet because of the lack of free black spells, notably Soul Spike et al
Wow. Powerbalance is a really cool card.
Glad wizards has these guys on their radar
I think phlage is a great commander card in all sunforger decks as a big threat that gives you some removal for small value creatures
I’m really on the fence of buying a box for this set. It’s pure gas but financially ridiculous.
17:54 I learn something new every day. 🥪
Eladamri is replacing my vizier of the menagerie in my mono g deck. 1 mana cheaper and helps cheat creatures onto the battlefield.
Great vid and analysis!
Can’t wait to cast ulamog against someone
Ah, I see the ancient tradition of "Blue shall be absurdly overpowered and pushed" is continuing without a hitch.
All these cards are cute. None of them make it into any of my decks. However, there is an uncommon from MH3 that I'm definitely playing.
I'd say don't sleep on Waterlogged Teachings, but it's an uncommon and will probably be available everywhere for under $0.25 pretty soon. No one cares about instant tutor effects that cost 4, right? You're just gonna play it as a land most of the time because you're not running enough land in your deck.
Wotc sponsoring a commander video instead of a modern video. Is this truly Commander Horizons 3?😂
Eladamri the original was good from Tempest, his redo is pretty strong
I want to make it rain frogs on my opponent's commanders
I am 100% bu8lding the necrobloom
Love the content yall
Thank you for this video, it is very helpful!
Pumped to draft this set too, it's going to be hilarious.
I absolutely knew Grim Hireling was good af and nobody noticed till now 😂 i got 4 for like 10$
Eladarmi for 3 CMC is insane.
Question about Six. It specifically says you can CAST permanent cards from the graveyard. Doesn’t that mean you actually can’t get lands back, because you PLAY lands instead of casting them? Or were ya’ll saying you needed the Crucible in addition?
I ran into this distinction in one of my decks and it kinda boned me. So either we got that ruling wrong (and I’m a happy boy) or Six works for any permanent BUT lands.
Completely missed Nadu, Winged Wisdom, undoubtedly the strongest commander from the set.
Powerful set. The power creep is real.
birthing ritual soo good
Is nobody gonna talk about the potential of ugins unbinding in modern? I feel like there is going to be a really good yet annoying strategy around running 4 copies lol
Yaaaas!!!! Slay Jakey Joe!
Invert polarity is too good
I can't wait to use Glaring Fleshraker in my Teshar deck ;p
So many good sleeper cards for specific strategies in this set
Does an amphibian downpour feel like warmp?
Oh my god
Does birthing ritual work with flameshadow conjuring, i ve read places where copies retain the originals cmc
Yes, a token has always mana value of 0 unless the token is a copy of another permanent, in which case the token copies its mana cost (and thus mana value).
I do this for the metrics so that the video might be considered a success.
Ulamog as a reanimation target with virtue of persistence seems pretty good... As i think on an adventure it counts as mana value 9 ... and can later reanimate an ulamog .... Its such an ugly card ... 😅
Birthing Ritual will always make you put the cards on the button of your library. If it was scry 7, that would be busted lol
Omg lol 😂 You're totally right. We are just gonna casually ignore whole lines of text and make up our own
@JakeandJoelareMagic
Haha, I had to reread it to confirm. Sometimes, reading things online, you miss the punctuations and whatnot. If only...scry 7 on end step for 2 comes in MH4 haha
@@K1aymor I think we can agree two Mana enchantment that lets you scry 7 every turn, that's a good card
No Eldrazi Homunculus. 1/10
I'll call up mommy Emrakul and see what she can do for ya, Jank
Hard agree
@@zackfro Emphasis on the hard.
@@CrackinJank that's what she said
Engagement!
Thrown Dynamo
I love lamp?
How about Nadu in infect modern?
I literally don't know how to play this game.
Git gud nob
Sponsored by WOTC 🎉💰💰🥳🎂
Who’s excited for commander horizons 3??
You lost me at "big shoutout to wizards of the coast for sponsoring this video"
Your username nearly being "lol shit take" is really appropriate
@@JakeandJoelareMagic Nice. I've been watching your videos for years now, back when you averaged 1500 views per video. I used to comment on other content creators that your channel is better. But hey I guess you guys made it now. Good luck out there with wotc's dick in your mouths.
The mdfcs are so stupid
Those of us who are actually good at the game figured out which cards are good for edh before you ever could LOL
Lol HELL yeah 👍 what do you think it is that sets you apart as elite?