Simple trick, 35 number ki divisers are 1,5,7 and 35 numbers only. Next 1 square is 1 and 5 square is 25 and 7 square is 49. And 35 square is 1225 and this 1225 is big number. So, automatically 49-25 is 24. So required numbers are 7 and 5.
Resolvi utilizando a lógica mesmo. Por exemplo: 7 elevado a potência 2 = 7 X 7 = 49, 5 elevado a segunda potência = 5 X 5 = 25, logo 49 - 25= 24, 7 X 5 = 35 e 7 + 5 =12.
Very easy to solve. No big formula required. X+Y = 12. XY=35. 35=35*1 or 17.5*2 or 7*5. First two are not suitable. So 7*5 =XY.. So X=7. Y=5. So 7*7=49. 5*5=25. 49-25=24. 7+5=12.
@@AshmanKhanna Not hit and run. Only some logic is applied. I applied the logic in case of XY=35 and got the value of X and Y. In competitive exams we do not have much time to solve these types of questions. Only logic should be applied for faster solutions.
The question doesn’t tell you they’re natural numbers, of course you could guess get because it doesn’t make sense for them to be very complex, but “guessing numbers” is normally a no go for math Olympics
35²=25×49=1225 It's a small mistake, but in (x,y)=(5,7),(-5,-7), x and y are reversed, so I don't feel like squaring 35. There is an answer, but you can do it without squaring x²-y²=24 ∧xy=35 ⇔ x²-y²=24 ∧xy=35 ⇔ x²-y²=24 ∧y=35/x ⇔x²-(35 /x)²=24∧y=35/x ⇔x⁴-24x²-7²・5²=0∧y=35/x ⇔(x²-7²)(x²+5²)=0∧y=35/x ⇔(x ,y)=(7,5),(-7,5),(5i,-7i),(-5i,7i) Of course I didn't calculate 35². Well, there is a rule like 15²=2 25 25²=6 25 35²=12 25 45²= 20 25 55²=30 25 65²= 42 25, so if you know that, you can calculate it right away.
Пусть (х+у)^2=а, возведем первое уравнение в квадрат (х+у)^2*(х-у)^2=576 а*(х^2+у^2+2ху-2ху-2ху)=576 В скобках мы прибавили и отняли 2ху а*((х+у)^2-4ху)=576 а*(а-140)=576 Дальнейшее просто
@@anime_pro_fan539 Я согласен, но так могут решить не все. Вообще это устно решается. х,у числа явно целые. 35 имеет два делителя 7 и 5 (1 и 35 не учитываем). Легко посчитать два решения (7,5) и (-7,-5) И есть ещё комплексное решение
@@АндрейПергаев-з4н ну я хз, как по мне с такой системой что ты написал решить смогут ещё меньше чем так как я написал, я такое решаю быстро, даже после титановый сетки в голове из-за перелома черепа, но сложные задачи и многое другое прокручиваются в голове медленнее чем раньше, хотя оно и понятно сломал себе череп из-за своей тупости и в ней шя титановая сетка
Math bukan tentang JAWABAN, tapi prosesnya. Manusia dikatakan MENGGUNAKAN LOGIKA jika mampu menjelaskan PROSES. Inilah sebabnya kenapa IQ ORANG INDONESIA RENDAH, karena hanya berorientasi pada HASIL. INDONESIA TIDAK MAJU karena warganya hanya ingin HASIL bukan proses.
at 6:32 - x^2+y^2 = 5476 if you take roots, isn't everything already positive? How taking square roots from both sides gets you with +/-? Please explain...?
Another thing, even if the number are negative they are both negative, it's not possible for one to be negative and the other positive since xy=35. So the answer can be +/-12
set u=x+y and v= x-y then u*v=24 but (x+y)^2-(x-y)^2=4*x*y=4*35 Therefore u^2-v^2=4*35, v^2=u^2-4*35. u^2*v^2=24^2 u^2*(u^2-4*35)=24^2 u^2-2*2*35*u^2=24^2 (u^2-2*35)^2=24^2+(2*35)^2=4*12^2+4*35^2 (u^2-2*35)^2=4*(12^2+35^2)=4*(35^2+12^2). but 36^2=(35+2)^2=35^2+2*2*35+2^2=35^2+140+4=35^2+12^2 Thus (u^2-2*35)^2=4*37^2 u^2=2*35+-2*37=2*(35+-37) u^2=2*(35+37)=144 or u^2=2*(-2)=-4
After seeing the equations squaring both numbers then subtracting from get results in 24 multiplying x and get 35 makes x=7 y=5 adding them up results in 12
What kind of number do the variables x and y denote?Is there any indication regarding the question, it should be mentioned while the solution is explained.,The question to be set in the Math Olympiad brings no credit.
Math not about the answer but PROCESS. Every one can say 1 + 1 = 2, 1 x 2 =2, 4 ÷ 2 = 2, but can you explain how??? The code of computer program to explainted for 1 + 1 = 2 need 10 or more of line code. Explaint the process is real problem. If human just need answer than CALL GOD.
Есть ощущение, что решить попроще можно было. А так... Как говорят у нас, в Африке, "пока одни изучают комплексные числа, другие в это время изучают автомат Калашникова" 😐
here it’s impossible to say for sure if we take the + sign, because 12 can also be obtained by 4+8, 3+9, etc., but if we take xy, then it’s clear because 35 is only in the case of 7×5 and this fits everyone’s requirements, but with + you can already have a bunch of options, and if 7+5 doesn’t immediately come to mind, then you’ll try 2+10, 3+9, 4+8, 11+1, etc. even -2+14, but with xy=35 it’s immediately clear because everyone knows the multiplication table from the age of 7
Is there any squared number that gives a negative result?, when we see (x+y) squared < 0 ( reject no more answer ) but you still have the next solution, your math level is too advanced, I don't know who taught you the basic knowledge, just let me know so I can tell that person to prove it to the world is the square of a negative number to receive the Nobel Prize in mathematics
@@haylonmi писать то надо но если устно просто нужно сказать ответ то достаточно сказать 7 и 5, а если, ну я то уже 2 года как школу закончил так что не могу сказать какие у вас учителя, но если учитель спросит ,,и это всё?" Значит учитель хочет от тебя ответ ±7 и ±5
sabe resolver uma conta bem parecida com essa ,não to conseguindo resolver, a conta é: x² - y² = 15 e o outro sitema de equação é xy=15 . o problema é muito parecido com o do video mas não consigo reslponder, quem souber resolver deixa a resposta ai
This question is prepared in a way such that the answer could be obtained by doing prime factorisation of 35 , using any other ways is just dumb way of solving and a matter of waste of time
sabe resolver uma conta bem parecida com essa ,não to conseguindo resolver, a conta é: x² - y² = 15 e o outro sitema de equação é xy=15 . o problema é muito parecido com o do video mas não consigo reslponder, quem souber resolver deixa a resposta ai
ans. x=7. &. y=5 ,( no need to solve) so x+y=7+5=12.
L intéressant c est de faire la démonstration ,le résultat a peu d importance .
Not that simple
That's just sort of guessing!
35=7×5=>x=7 and y=5
No. The numbers might be negative too. (-7) and (-5).
(-7)×(-5)=35
2 2
(-7) - (-5) = 49-25 = 24
So, we need to solve.
Put x=35/y and substitute in the other equation you can get both x and y and then x+y
no u cant lol
x=35/y
35^2/y^ - y^2 = 24
y^4+24y^2 - 35 = 0 ----> quadratic eq.
y^2 = 49 or -25
y = +7 or -7
x = 35/y = +5 or -5
x+y = 12 or -12
Simple trick, 35 number ki divisers are 1,5,7 and 35 numbers only.
Next 1 square is 1 and 5 square is 25 and 7 square is 49. And 35 square is 1225 and this 1225 is big number.
So, automatically 49-25 is 24.
So required numbers are 7 and 5.
Решение на сообразительность:
ХY=35 - первое, что приходит на ум 7×5
7 в квадрате =49
5 в квадрате = 25
49-25=24
7+5=12!
Thank
Resolvi utilizando a lógica mesmo. Por exemplo: 7 elevado a potência 2 = 7 X 7 = 49, 5 elevado a segunda potência = 5 X 5 = 25, logo 49 - 25= 24, 7 X 5 = 35 e 7 + 5 =12.
Very easy to solve. No big formula required. X+Y = 12.
XY=35. 35=35*1 or 17.5*2 or 7*5. First two are not suitable. So 7*5 =XY..
So X=7. Y=5. So 7*7=49. 5*5=25. 49-25=24.
7+5=12.
Bro you have used hit and trial method but we should use proper identity or logic which is shown in video
@@AshmanKhanna
Not hit and run. Only some logic is applied. I applied the logic in case of XY=35 and got the value of X and Y. In competitive exams we do not have much time to solve these types of questions. Only logic should be applied for faster solutions.
Just looking at the factors of 35 it's clear that it must be +-7 and +-5, so +-12
Let
u = x + y,
v = x - у
Then
x² - y² = 24 => uv = 24 (1)
xy = 35 => u² - v² = 4*35 = 140 (2)
From (1)
v = 24/u (3)
Substitute (3) in (2)
u² - (24/u)² = 140
or
u⁴ - 24² = 140u²
or
u⁴ - 140u² - 24² = 0 (4)
From (4)
u²₁,₂ = [140 ± √(140² + 4*24²)] / 2 = [140 ± √(4² * (35² + 12²))] / 2 = [140 ± 4√(1369))] / 2 = [140 ± 4√(37²))] / 2 = 70 ± 2*37 = 70 ± 74
u²₁ = 144 => (x + y) = ±12
u²₂= -4 => (x + y) = ±2i
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Or you could have just got it from xy=35 x=±7 y=±5 x+y=±12
😉
The question doesn’t tell you they’re natural numbers, of course you could guess get because it doesn’t make sense for them to be very complex, but “guessing numbers” is normally a no go for math Olympics
(x+y)(x-y)=24
(x+y)(x-y)=12×2=(7+5)(7-5)
x+y=12 Ans
35²=25×49=1225
It's a small mistake, but in (x,y)=(5,7),(-5,-7), x and y are reversed, so I don't feel like squaring 35. There is an answer, but you can do it without squaring x²-y²=24 ∧xy=35 ⇔ x²-y²=24 ∧xy=35 ⇔ x²-y²=24 ∧y=35/x ⇔x²-(35 /x)²=24∧y=35/x ⇔x⁴-24x²-7²・5²=0∧y=35/x ⇔(x²-7²)(x²+5²)=0∧y=35/x ⇔(x ,y)=(7,5),(-7,5),(5i,-7i),(-5i,7i) Of course I didn't calculate 35². Well, there is a rule like 15²=2 25 25²=6 25 35²=12 25 45²= 20 25 55²=30 25 65²= 42 25, so if you know that, you can calculate it right away.
It's very easy 35, is divisible by only two numbers 7 and 5
So x is 7 and y is 5
Wondraful
Thank you 🙏
Пусть (х+у)^2=а, возведем первое уравнение в квадрат
(х+у)^2*(х-у)^2=576
а*(х^2+у^2+2ху-2ху-2ху)=576
В скобках мы прибавили и отняли 2ху
а*((х+у)^2-4ху)=576
а*(а-140)=576
Дальнейшее просто
И ты усложнил как и автор ведь тут чисто на логике можно решить xy=35=>x=35/y либо y=35/x=>x=±7 и y=±5
@@anime_pro_fan539
Я согласен, но так могут решить не все. Вообще это устно решается.
х,у числа явно целые.
35 имеет два делителя 7 и 5 (1 и 35 не учитываем).
Легко посчитать два решения (7,5) и (-7,-5)
И есть ещё комплексное решение
@@АндрейПергаев-з4н ну я хз, как по мне с такой системой что ты написал решить смогут ещё меньше чем так как я написал, я такое решаю быстро, даже после титановый сетки в голове из-за перелома черепа, но сложные задачи и многое другое прокручиваются в голове медленнее чем раньше, хотя оно и понятно сломал себе череп из-за своей тупости и в ней шя титановая сетка
12(X7,Y5)
Why are you not telling us the laws you applied and what's the application to real life situation?
8:04 everything was perfect until you started looking for the sqrt, after that I got disappointed
Terlalu panjang..asal hafal kali2an cepat terjawab...x= 7 y=5
x + y = 12
Math bukan tentang JAWABAN, tapi prosesnya.
Manusia dikatakan MENGGUNAKAN LOGIKA jika mampu menjelaskan PROSES.
Inilah sebabnya kenapa IQ ORANG INDONESIA RENDAH, karena hanya berorientasi pada HASIL.
INDONESIA TIDAK MAJU karena warganya hanya ingin HASIL bukan proses.
how about x= -7 and y= -5
at 6:32 - x^2+y^2 = 5476 if you take roots, isn't everything already positive? How taking square roots from both sides gets you with +/-? Please explain...?
Another thing, even if the number are negative they are both negative, it's not possible for one to be negative and the other positive since xy=35. So the answer can be +/-12
For example if we have to solve for x in x^2=49, then x will be +-7 but √49=+7 only
set u=x+y and v= x-y
then u*v=24
but
(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2=4*x*y=4*35
Therefore u^2-v^2=4*35, v^2=u^2-4*35.
u^2*v^2=24^2
u^2*(u^2-4*35)=24^2
u^2-2*2*35*u^2=24^2
(u^2-2*35)^2=24^2+(2*35)^2=4*12^2+4*35^2
(u^2-2*35)^2=4*(12^2+35^2)=4*(35^2+12^2).
but 36^2=(35+2)^2=35^2+2*2*35+2^2=35^2+140+4=35^2+12^2
Thus
(u^2-2*35)^2=4*37^2
u^2=2*35+-2*37=2*(35+-37)
u^2=2*(35+37)=144 or u^2=2*(-2)=-4
35 : 5 dhe 35:7
X= 5 ose x=7
Prova. X=7 dhey=5
Proses lenthy
XY=35
Factors of XYvalue 35 are 7 and 5
Then X + Y =, 7+5=12
x=7,y=5
×=-7,y=-5
x+y=7+5=12
×+y=(-7)+(-5)=-12
X e 7, y e 5 , x +y = 12
24 =12×2. X+y =12
=(7+5)(7-5)
X=7. y=5
X+ y=. 12
x²-y²=24
xy=35 => x=35/y
(35/y)²-y²=24
1225/y²-y²=24 |•y²
1225-y⁴=24y²
y⁴+24y²-1225=0
y²=t
t²+24t-1225=0
t=-49; t=25
y²=-49 (not)
y²=25
y=±5; x=±7
x+y=5+7=12;
x+y=(-5)+(-7)=-12
7and5
After seeing the equations squaring both numbers then subtracting from get results in 24 multiplying x and get 35 makes x=7 y=5 adding them up results in 12
24 в квадрате равно 496
Need simple tips
xy = 35 = 35x1 or 7x5. Now (35+1)(35-1) = 1224 and (7+5)(7-5) = 24 . So …….
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암산해도x=±7,y=±5,
x+y=±12
What kind of number do the variables x and y denote?Is there any indication regarding the question, it should be mentioned while the solution is explained.,The question to be set in the Math Olympiad brings no credit.
First step is wrong because
(x+y)(x-y)=x2-y2-2xy
Math not about the answer but PROCESS.
Every one can say 1 + 1 = 2, 1 x 2 =2, 4 ÷ 2 = 2, but can you explain how???
The code of computer program to explainted for 1 + 1 = 2 need 10 or more of line code.
Explaint the process is real problem.
If human just need answer than CALL GOD.
Good luck sR❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Задание интересное!
7 x 5 = 35. Por lo tanto 7 + 5=12
Много лишнего,надо применять простую таблицу умножения.7•5= 35 и все!
Solution is to be speed slow writing makes us irritation if u write like this is there any meaning plse explain
But actual time to solve ->30 secs in any exams
Есть ощущение, что решить попроще можно было.
А так... Как говорят у нас, в Африке, "пока одни изучают комплексные числа, другие в это время изучают автомат Калашникова" 😐
X-7, y-5, 7+5=12
X*y=35.
7*5=35.
7+5=12
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Matematica trebuie sa simplifice lucrurile , nu să le complice! Doar dacă vrei să dovedesti ca sti toate formulele.
The process is lengthy
12 by cursory examination
Trivial x=7,y=5
12
Risposta : 7. e. 5.
x=7 y=5
x+y=7+5=12
Simple salvation kora uchit.
Решила в уме 5*7=35. И 49 - 25≠24
x = ±7; y = ±5
x + y = ±12
here it’s impossible to say for sure if we take the + sign, because 12 can also be obtained by 4+8, 3+9, etc., but if we take xy, then it’s clear because 35 is only in the case of 7×5 and this fits everyone’s requirements, but with + you can already have a bunch of options, and if 7+5 doesn’t immediately come to mind, then you’ll try 2+10, 3+9, 4+8, 11+1, etc. even -2+14, but with xy=35 it’s immediately clear because everyone knows the multiplication table from the age of 7
Is there any squared number that gives a negative result?, when we see (x+y) squared < 0 ( reject no more answer ) but you still have the next solution, your math level is too advanced, I don't know who taught you the basic knowledge, just let me know so I can tell that person to prove it to the world is the square of a negative number to receive the Nobel Prize in mathematics
Simple 12
,12
-12,-2,2,12
Giải rườm rà vậy. X = 35/Y . Thay vào rồi giải phương trình bậc 2 thôi
😅7 и 5. Моментально ❗
-7 и - 5 забыли
@@haylonmiну -7 и -5 не нужно говорить ведь это просто то же самое в отрицательном виде, ну а так да ±7 и ±5
@@anime_pro_fan539 нужно, это же тоже вариант ответа. Или, по-вашему, X² = 49 => x = ±7, то достаточно записать x = 7? Это не так.
@@haylonmi писать то надо но если устно просто нужно сказать ответ то достаточно сказать 7 и 5, а если, ну я то уже 2 года как школу закончил так что не могу сказать какие у вас учителя, но если учитель спросит ,,и это всё?" Значит учитель хочет от тебя ответ ±7 и ±5
Too lengthy just use brain
There are no factors other than 7x5 for 35
So answer must be 7 and 5
Silly question
Х=7 , У=5 от 35-24=12
x+y=±12
X=7,Y=5
7+5=12
X+y=12
7+5=12
Да это устная задача...
Hic x+y=12 est. Responsi.
35= 7×5=>x=7 and y=5 😑
Ответ 12,метод подстановки
O X equivale a 7 e o Y a 5
sabe resolver uma conta bem parecida com essa ,não to conseguindo resolver, a conta é:
x² - y² = 15 e o outro sitema de equação é xy=15 . o problema é muito parecido com o do video mas não consigo reslponder, quem souber resolver deixa a resposta ai
12 or -12
Я за несколько секунд нашла ответ Х+У=12, Х=7, У=5
This question is prepared in a way such that the answer could be obtained by doing prime factorisation of 35 , using any other ways is just dumb way of solving and a matter of waste of time
Method.
Solution method is lengthy nd wrong
38
X=7 y=5 so x+y =12
Why need to mention +_ even it is positive.
X=25,,,,y=1
12.
There is an easiest way to solve it!!
X=35/y and replace
Решаем в уме. х +у = 12.
A resposta correta é 12
sabe resolver uma conta bem parecida com essa ,não to conseguindo resolver, a conta é:
x² - y² = 15 e o outro sitema de equação é xy=15 . o problema é muito parecido com o do video mas não consigo reslponder, quem souber resolver deixa a resposta ai
Полнейшая чушь.... Мой племянник 10 лет решил в уме за 20 секунд...Самый тупой препод...
x =7 y= 5
x+y= 7+5=12
Wrong solve.
Wrong method।
Olympiad??? Is someone extracting the yellow water of hilarity ? ? I got this in 5 seconds and I openly admit to a full set of numbskull genes.
7.5 =7+5=12
Eu resolvi de cabeça, xy=35, só 7×5=35.
Всё решается в уме по первой строчке все понятно.зачеи столько трудностей и писанины.кстати мне65
12
X+y=12
x + y = 7 + 5 = 12