How to Build a Stealth Fire and Jet Boil at the Same Time!

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  • @wetbobspongepants
    @wetbobspongepants Год назад +26

    A good thing to remember when stealth camping is to *only burn dead wood and be sure to remove ALL the bark from dead wood as this greatly reduces the amount of smoke and smell produced.*

    • @utubeape
      @utubeape Год назад +2

      Yes, and starting the fire with a bunch of small twigs or feather sticks held in my hand and ignited directly with a mini blow torch lighter also reduces the smoke rather than trying to start it in the hole, which is generally a damp place

  • @GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx
    @GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx Год назад +6

    The tiptoing through the forest was very funny. Thanks for the laugh

  • @stephen4600
    @stephen4600 Год назад +21

    Thank you sir , I live on a postage stamp called England , this fire is ideal for here as they hate us camping !👍👍

  • @grandmasstories3418
    @grandmasstories3418 Год назад

    You are one real down-to-earth bushcrafter. I still keep pushing "like", even before I know your content, because I know I'm going to like it

  • @irvsstella
    @irvsstella 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dakotas are brilliant when you use a tripod stand for your pots, a constant heat and adjustable height. I try to use a Dakota when ever I'm out. They do take a little while to construct, but if you're a returning camper, they're easily cleaned out, ready to go again.

  • @grandmasstories3418
    @grandmasstories3418 Год назад

    ... and you manage to keep it short, which is a real good feature of your videos, sweet, short and to the point. Congratulations and.... thank you!

  • @dasta7658
    @dasta7658 Год назад +10

    When I did my Combat Survival Course we were taught to dig it into the side of a small, concealed creek if available so the air could be blown or waved in to create more heat and coals. To hide the smoke as a visual, we were taught to layer green, wet branches above the hole. This is what we were taught in the classroom. When we got out to the training area there were no 'concealed' creeks with good banks, water was scarce so there was no way it was going to be used to wet branches, so we improvised with this technique. Being able to adapt, use common sense and intuition is so important in survival situations.

  • @tnzayatz6579
    @tnzayatz6579 Год назад +25

    My understanding is this wasn’t developed primarily for stealth but in the Dakotas to minimize issues with high winds that blow across the prairie and to conserve fuel by concentrating the heat.

    • @richardhernandez8806
      @richardhernandez8806 Год назад

      Apparently, you have been spared the treachery of those Dakotans.

  • @LShapedAmbush
    @LShapedAmbush Год назад +3

    The only Dakota fire I ever made was when my son came by unexpectedly on his day off and asked if I could teach him some bushcraft. I was on the spot, wracking my brain over what to show him. I thought we had done enough knots and notches. The Dakota fire pit came to mind so we made one in the back yard. He was really impressed and so was I. Nice video, thanks.

  • @sojournsojourntraveler1203
    @sojournsojourntraveler1203 7 месяцев назад

    This video is the best I have found so far .

  • @TRYoung-it9hs
    @TRYoung-it9hs Год назад +9

    Great video. I dig my Dakota fire pits a little deeper and if possible I like to dig the bottom wider than the opening, kind of upside-down funnel shaped. I've found if the soil is too loose for that shape and it keeps falling in, some flat rocks arranged around the opening works to concentrate the heat. Also digging the air draft hole facing the prevailing wind direction helps feed fresh air to the fire more easily.

  • @TheSaneHatter
    @TheSaneHatter Год назад +2

    When I saw you tiptoeing around, I immediately thought, "Be vewwy, vewwy quiet...."

  • @jpatchin7405
    @jpatchin7405 Год назад +2

    The reason I like this channel is because of your humor. In cold weather big fire sit father away but this fire pit one can shelter nearer and stay warmer.

    • @joshuakane1139
      @joshuakane1139 Год назад +1

      This would be a great HEAT element with any kind-of small built lean to also!!!

    • @dananorth895
      @dananorth895 Месяц назад

      Uses less fuel but needs to be fed more often....no long burns.
      But small wood is essier to find and process. It's usually drier and a fair quantity can be gathered carried.

    • @dananorth895
      @dananorth895 Месяц назад

      P.S. I always have to laugh when I see someone try to dig a firehole. Then proceed to dig a giant fire pit you can damn near crawl into!

  • @richardhernandez8806
    @richardhernandez8806 Год назад

    A solid command of various techniques required in the sticks is very prudent. Fun, too.

  • @xploration1437
    @xploration1437 Год назад +2

    4:03 Best advice ever.

  • @mjtrepanier
    @mjtrepanier Год назад

    When I was infantry I would do these to cook my MREs and heat my coffee and just feel better. I would make the air shaft wide enough to feed the fuel sticks in through. My fire pit was smaller than what you demonstrated. It still worked in the end. The overal dimensions were generally 6 inches around on each shaft. 6 inches deep on the fire pit and whatever angle I needed to get the air shaft in.

  • @vryce6322
    @vryce6322 Год назад +8

    I would term it more of a Rocket Stove than a JetBoil. Seen as how a JetBoil is a canister stove and the Rocket Stoves operate on the same principal as the Dakota Fire pit.

    • @richardhernandez8806
      @richardhernandez8806 Год назад

      Perhaps it could be called “the poor mans jet boil.” Cross those t’s and make sure every dot is properly placed above the lower case i.😜

  • @jeremymueller2848
    @jeremymueller2848 Год назад +1

    I use a grill grate on top of the hole 🕳️ for cooking 👍

  • @darylsarbaugh3491
    @darylsarbaugh3491 Год назад +6

    I like this because you can almost eliminate the smoke as well by getting lots of oxygen into the fire to give a cleaner burn. I usually do a 12 inch by 12 inch with a solid 4 inch air chute up wind of pit to aid in good air flow.

  • @campsiteministries
    @campsiteministries Год назад +4

    If you dig the main fire-pit out in more of an upside-down cone configuration,(like a flower pot turned upside-down), it will not only decrease the amount of flame/light above ground level,(making it even more stealthy), but it will also increase the amount of airflow going through the fire pit, which causes more efficient combustion,(a hotter fire), which means less smoke. The bottom of the fire pit only needs to be about 12” in diameter, with the opening at the top about 6” - 8”. Adjust the air vent as needed. If you try this yourself you will see that it actually does make a difference. You could even dig 2 different Dakota pits in 2 different locations and compare them for stealthiness and efficiency. One in the style that you described, and the other in the style that I described. Try it and see what you come up with.

  • @ashleyking3385
    @ashleyking3385 Год назад

    you had me at the stealthy tip toe

  • @hobofab
    @hobofab Год назад +1

    Great video! Another plus is because the fire is so low profile it's safer. Less likely to catch surrounding brush as a much larger open campfire might.

  • @kalstreksandtrails7606
    @kalstreksandtrails7606 Год назад +2

    If you are truly stealth camping then you don't want a fie but I do wish I had known about this during my hitchhiking days. I did a lot of stealth camping over the years.

  • @DJl3iohazord
    @DJl3iohazord Год назад +1

    My old forge was based off of a Dakota fire pit. I also added a leaf blower at the end of the vent to add more air. On a good day I could melt down aluminum and other soft metals into ingots. Also this was back in Florida and over time the sand in between the bricks sorta melted and formed a glass mortar.

  • @jw81
    @jw81 Год назад +5

    I live coastal and I’m always on the beach cooking something. Could a beach version of this work? Maybe a small section of steel piping as the breather... so it doesn’t collapse.

  • @hobostovepipe2199
    @hobostovepipe2199 2 месяца назад

    Like your idea. Excited to test out.

  • @jesperv.s.9203
    @jesperv.s.9203 Год назад +4

    Funny. Both Coalcracker and TA outdoor. Stealth video 1 hour apart

  • @quinntheeskimooutdoors6234
    @quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 Год назад

    😊Thanks Dan😊

  • @jeremyhicks6367
    @jeremyhicks6367 Год назад

    Thanks Dan!

  • @utubeape
    @utubeape Год назад

    You can make a cone from the dug out dirt to help direct air into the air input hole, when this faces the wind direction it means the air in the smaller tunnel underground will speed up

  • @Radman1919
    @Radman1919 Год назад

    To help with the smoke build a small Dakota fire hole under a pine tree. This will help disperse the smoke.

  • @zm6695
    @zm6695 Год назад

    Another great video, thanks...

  • @earlshaner4441
    @earlshaner4441 Год назад

    Hi from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures in bush craft

  • @bobg.8954
    @bobg.8954 Год назад

    You looked like a leprechaun gone wrong in the beginning creeping across the ground lol. Awesome video!

  • @P.T.S.E.
    @P.T.S.E. Год назад

    This seems similar in principle to the natural draft furnace. If we take that as an example, then making the bottom of the pit flare out would create a better updraft, suck in more air and burn fuel better, resulting in less smoke. Also, aside from making the air intake hole at as flat of an angle as possible, you can also increase air intake by flaring out the air intake hole's entrance.
    The air intake hole should also be a bit above the bottom of the fire pit, so it is not obstructed by soot or ash. You can also add another air intake directly to the opposite side, but if you can't make it in a similar angle or you are at a really windy area, it would not have that much of an increased effect.
    Also, just like with a natural draft furnace, you can build your fire upside down, filling the whole fire pit with fuel to the brim, and then you wouldn't have to feed it with small twigs constantly. Let it burn down a bit and you can get to cooking. But that's not the best idea if you want to hide the flames.

  • @paulzimmerman3895
    @paulzimmerman3895 Год назад

    Enjoyed that knowledge passed along. One of my favorite fires. Keep on trucking!

  • @peterott9162
    @peterott9162 Год назад +1

    That was pretty cool Dan. I learned something new today...always awesome!!! Keep the great content coming.

  • @terryqueen3233
    @terryqueen3233 Год назад

    I have used these pretty regular not to try to hide or anything but they just cook better and it's so much easier to not have a fire pit to have to cover up and make it look like no one's there. This is a great video for beginners it really is and you guys listen to what he says because these things work great it's a little work but it's worth it in the long run. Y'all have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry and your Dakota fire hole a burning!

  • @paulgoesoutdoors9616
    @paulgoesoutdoors9616 Год назад

    Great information in this one Dan!

  • @mikethomas5412
    @mikethomas5412 Год назад

    Great video!
    Thanks

  • @ExpeditionaryJonny
    @ExpeditionaryJonny Год назад

    I really like the way you used the stick to make an angle hole

  • @POMOLY
    @POMOLY Год назад

    Helpful tips, enjoy that knowledge passed along, benefit a lot.

  • @karencounts5190
    @karencounts5190 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @hunterbaywolf577
    @hunterbaywolf577 Год назад +1

    Yes I use them Quite frequently

  • @perfectweather
    @perfectweather Год назад

    Great video, thanks 👍

  • @treksntarps
    @treksntarps Год назад

    Got to try that . Well explained as always 👌

  • @jasonvickers2265
    @jasonvickers2265 Год назад

    great stuff

  • @robertsteck6875
    @robertsteck6875 Год назад

    This is the only fire system I use while hunting Elk in the San Juan mountains. I don't want camp smoke to alert the Elk of my presence.
    Pack Goats get you were most can't access...get a goat and go!

  • @mikeriley8546
    @mikeriley8546 Год назад

    awesome video

  • @juleslangston2059
    @juleslangston2059 Год назад

    awesome man. Ty

  • @thesagedwizard
    @thesagedwizard Год назад

    Bloody hell that's a cracking fire. It looks hot enough to smelt! 🔥

  • @therulesaredifferent8280
    @therulesaredifferent8280 Год назад

    Thanks dan

  • @BrosephRussell
    @BrosephRussell Год назад

    I like this method i have used it a few times works very well 😀

  • @DRHHUB
    @DRHHUB Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @piotrorowski876
    @piotrorowski876 Год назад

    Great shovel 👍 pozdrawiam z Polski

  • @corleyoutdoors2887
    @corleyoutdoors2887 Год назад

    Informative and beneficial video

  • @ryanblystone5153
    @ryanblystone5153 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @lapicker1010
    @lapicker1010 Год назад

    Kewl vid Dan! Watch out for the poison ivy though.

  • @waynehead7271
    @waynehead7271 Год назад

    Hey Dan!
    What would happen if you combined the Dakota fire pit with your "jet boil" log technique?
    I'm thinkin' that if you lined up the air holes, it would provide for a very stable "standing log." Although, you did say that the fire hole is *not* for putting logs into. 🤔
    Yeah ... I'm *that* guy. 😁✌🏼

  • @glennfyfe1357
    @glennfyfe1357 Год назад

    Thanks.

  • @sunbladerr
    @sunbladerr Год назад

    If by stealth camping you refer “Leave no trace” I support leaving a safer and small smaller footprint while camping. I do not support trespassing or having a ground fire where there regulations are against fires.

  • @donnydread7631
    @donnydread7631 Год назад

    Dig it!
    🙏🏻

  • @jackvoss5841
    @jackvoss5841 Год назад

    BEFORE YOU LIGHT THE FIRE, you need to make sure that it is mineral a soil. Carbonaceous soils like muck or forest duff can - and do - burn themselves.
    Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

  • @DS-xv1cg
    @DS-xv1cg Год назад

    !!! I LIKE YOUR INRTO MUSIC FROM ABOUT A YEAR AGO!!! Just a FYI. Love the videos, if I haven't watched them all its close, including other chanels and the season of alone!

  • @ladyofthemasque
    @ladyofthemasque Год назад +14

    A REMINDER: Do NOT use this in thick pine forests, regions with lots of firs and evergreen trees with pitch for sap. (Also avoid doing this in soil that is very loamy, peaty, or rich in leaves, etc.) The roots are very pitchy, aka fat wood, and this can cause underground embers to smolder, sometimes for weeks, sometimes even longer, before flaring up into a forest fire. Since the eponymous area did not have these risks, it was easy for the Dakota peoples to use this kind of fire. It would NOT work for the Coastal Salish region, aka western WA, OR, & BC. The only "cure" for it would be to dig the pits and connecting hole extra large, then line all surfaces with at least a couple inches of clay followed by rocks coated with more clay...but I still don't advocate doing this in anything beyond an absolute extreme life-saving emergency...and at that point it'd be easier to coat the ground with a large circle of clay or sand and rocks, and build yourself a small fire on top of that.

    • @ChuckTravels
      @ChuckTravels Год назад +1

      I was looking for someone to post this. Thank you for mentioning this important topic.

    • @thesagedwizard
      @thesagedwizard Год назад

      @@ChuckTravels me too. That's a bad end to any day...

    • @ladyofthemasque
      @ladyofthemasque Год назад +1

      @@ChuckTravels It SUCKS living up here in the Pacific Northwest, because Dakota fire pits look awesome and cool and I really want to try one, but the risk of an underground fire raging into a blaze is too great. I'll have to settle for a rocket stove or something instead, since the principle is very similar, but it's not nearly as stealthy.

    • @hobofab
      @hobofab Год назад +1

      Could you put rocks in the hole and then cover with mud as a barrier to avoid roots catching?

  • @TonyTooTuff
    @TonyTooTuff Год назад +1

    Chuck Norris punches the ground and makes both holes at the same time.

  • @allanf4756
    @allanf4756 Год назад

    Love it 👍🏼👍🏼🇨🇦🇨🇦👍🏼👍🏼

  • @randybrown140
    @randybrown140 Год назад

    Good lesson 👍🇺🇸🇺🇲

  • @grandmasstories3418
    @grandmasstories3418 Год назад

    Could it useful to dig another hole nearby, just so you can pull some sticks out of the main hole, if you want to "lower the fire" for slow cooking, without calling attention?

  • @daveys
    @daveys Год назад

    A Dakota fire pit is pretty much the same concept as a rocket stove, just with the whole of the world as the stove body.

  • @dadofid1006
    @dadofid1006 Год назад

    Another tip : heavily douse your pit with water, tree roots can smolder underground & start a fire days or even weeks later. 👍🤘🖖

  • @garygoldstein327
    @garygoldstein327 Год назад

    I was thinking while you were explaining the thought of the hole not collapsing in on it self, having a large empty 10 to 12 " deep tomato juice can (or coffee can)with the bottom and top removed, and a small inlet at the bottom just 2 inches or so above the base of the wall of can 's bottom rim open to Insert a pipe thru that hole in the wall of the can at an angle later after the can penetrates deep into unstable ground or sand. With a scoop, begin removing the loose earth inside the floor of the can as the wall of the can descends into the earth to make the stealth fire deep in the loose earth with the can remaining inside the hole to hold back the earth from collapsing in on itself.
    And with a two foot length of pipe to reach the hole in the wall of the can?
    When it is time to fill the hole in, smother the flame with the dirt and then remove the can from the hole as the earth collapses in on itself from beneath the can and remove the pipe.
    I will have to try this, but where I live there are no stealthy places to test this thought.
    I also wonder if a separate trench could be dug closer to the surface to run under the floor of my temporary shelter 3 feet or more in length and covered flush with flat rocks from a nearby stream. The purpose of this trench would run under the floor of my make shift shelter to provide a heated floor covered by a layer of dead fallen leaves for insulation and to cushion my body above the hard floor.

  • @shadowscout9872
    @shadowscout9872 Год назад

    If you have a slight breeze you should put you air shaft up wind and it will force air into your flames some what.

  • @ulbushcrafting6592
    @ulbushcrafting6592 Год назад

    Does it make a difference if the hole is straight as opposed to at an angle?

  • @JamesonThe1
    @JamesonThe1 Год назад

    Try making the air hole less of a 45 degree angle. Basically make a second straight down hole then bore over to the first to complete the oxygen inlet.

  • @Omnesum
    @Omnesum Год назад +1

    For this and other digging requirements could an auger be carved relatively easy out of wood? Alternatively if available one could be made with a tin can.

  • @margueritemitchell1829
    @margueritemitchell1829 Год назад +1

    Hello from British Columbia Canada
    🇨🇦👋👍♥️🌲🧘‍♀️🌲🚵‍♀️🌲🎨🖌☕☕☕☕☕

  • @Dark_Kevlarian
    @Dark_Kevlarian Год назад

    So stealthy that I didn't know the video started until the intro music...where was Dan in the beginning? I never saw/heard him...

  • @halfcrazyoldchristianredne895
    @halfcrazyoldchristianredne895 Год назад +1

    Great video, thanks Dan. I love the Dakota. So, where and how did it get its name?

    • @TheModernNativeTribe
      @TheModernNativeTribe Год назад +1

      The Dakota Natives were known to use this kind of fire because it hid smoke from warring tribes and calvary, as well as helped protect against the Wind and helped to frevent wild fires in the grassy plains.
      This is my favorite style fire and I feature it alot

  • @walkerone9833
    @walkerone9833 Год назад

    That's a jet engine. Never saw one with such a narrow air hole. Very nice! Wonder if a wider air hole would reduce "jet" flames?

  • @tammywebb7521
    @tammywebb7521 Год назад

    I had to replay part of this because at first the whole looks smaller, then when you started the fire the hole looked bigger. My guess is you must have decided to make it larger as I noticed the video was cut at the point you started the fire.

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Год назад

    We ever gonna get a FORAGING series???

  • @TheNeurotichi
    @TheNeurotichi Год назад +5

    Building one of these types of fires west of the Mississippi and you'll start a wildfire. Dcompost/dirt is flammable and catches fire.

    • @patrickwoods2165
      @patrickwoods2165 Год назад

      I was going to ask about this - or the possibility of roots of some trees being able to smolder underground after you're done and the hole is filled, leading to a wildfire hours or days later. How realistic is this possibility?

    • @TheNeurotichi
      @TheNeurotichi Год назад

      @@patrickwoods2165 extremely. I've done this at lake Tahoe and even used a couple of gallons to put my fire out and an hour latter nearly caused a wildfire. It's irresponsible to show people how to survive when some idiot trys this and finds out. This vid needs to be remade with a better understanding of what to do and not to do. It's compared to popping laundry soap in the mouth. It gets clicks but do people really need to apply these life lessons. Go buy a pack stove.

  • @gogart3
    @gogart3 Год назад

    works 4 me

  • @THESUPREMESUPERGOD
    @THESUPREMESUPERGOD Год назад +2

    I’ve tried this technique but there’s one problem, the problem is in an escape evasion situation people can smell it from at least a mile away. It’s not the smoke that people see, it’s the smell of the smoke and flames. No matter what you do you can’t hide the smell of it

    • @Eaode
      @Eaode Год назад

      hopefully the smaller amount of smoke + less light spreading out from the hole makes it so tracking down the smell is that much harder.
      But yeah if maximum stealth is the goal i think one should probably just carry a small camp stove that burns gas

    • @THESUPREMESUPERGOD
      @THESUPREMESUPERGOD Год назад

      @@Eaode how can I stop the smell of my food

    • @whiskeyvictor5703
      @whiskeyvictor5703 Год назад +1

      @@THESUPREMESUPERGOD Eat fast!!!

    • @THESUPREMESUPERGOD
      @THESUPREMESUPERGOD Год назад +1

      @@whiskeyvictor5703 that won’t stop the smell of food which requires at least three minutes to prepare, eat too early and you burn your tongue out. How does someone stop the smell of food?

  • @ravensdotter6843
    @ravensdotter6843 Год назад

    Wish you'd kept the old opening and music.

  • @johnwyman5939
    @johnwyman5939 Год назад

    Awesome idea and Another OUTSTANDING tool for my toolbox... Nicely done on video!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🪓🔪👍👍

  • @garynash456
    @garynash456 Год назад

    Wbere did you get that shovel?

  • @gizatoob
    @gizatoob Год назад

    fooff...at 3.35 simmering just turns into to flat out boiling. jThe woods just got scary yet exiting, especially around my hole

  • @benmartling2782
    @benmartling2782 Год назад

    Ah yes, another handy youtube video for the average american escaped convict

  • @connar_outdoor
    @connar_outdoor Год назад +2

    Your video is so cool otherwise! I hope you make more videos of it and you deserve a subscription from me personally!
    LG Connar Outdoor

    • @artzreal
      @artzreal Год назад +2

      check his older videos. the quick tips are awesome

  • @davidkerr4137
    @davidkerr4137 Год назад

    Can you control the flame by closing or covering the air inlet slightly?

    • @sandywieringa4434
      @sandywieringa4434 Год назад +1

      I believe so, yes

    • @GravityRoller
      @GravityRoller Год назад +1

      YES !
      Controlling the intake airstream works to control the burn rate of fire, especially if the walls of the fire hole are more vertical, consolidating the burn chamber more into a stack. This also condenses the heat for cooking and reduces smoke as it helps the fire to burn the smoke before it rises to the lip on fire-hole vs the open pit in video.

  • @granite676
    @granite676 Год назад

    I'd dig it much bigger and wider with a larger joining tunnel , more oxygen means better cleaner burn otherwise you'd be constantly feeding the fuel wood 👍

  • @JeffHuntsinger
    @JeffHuntsinger Год назад

    The shafthole has ALWAYS been close to the fire pit!

  • @electric_crickets
    @electric_crickets Год назад +1

    You said shaft hole.

  • @billj503
    @billj503 Год назад +1

    Where can I order the shovel?

    • @jasonjohnson6344
      @jasonjohnson6344 Год назад

      Garden section of most stores like Lowes, Home Depot or ranch/farm stores. Very inexpensive.

  • @shanhutchison7332
    @shanhutchison7332 Год назад

    👍💯😁

  • @UnfinishedProjectDartSport
    @UnfinishedProjectDartSport Год назад +1

    Why is it called a “Dakota” fire pit,
    how did it get it’s name?

    • @TheModernNativeTribe
      @TheModernNativeTribe Год назад

      Youre Right! The Dakota Natives were known to use it for survival and safety reasons

  • @JasonSeow
    @JasonSeow Год назад

    Instead of stealth fire, what I saw was a bon fire likely for camp party

  • @NoctilucentArts
    @NoctilucentArts Год назад

    The claim is the Dakota natives used it less for stealth and more because it's windy, open territory and to avoid starting grass fires......