Thank you Peter, your reviews are the gold standard, and the best on RUclips by a mile. I am pleased that you mentioned the Coast towards the end of the review, our Coast arrives in a week's time after a six month wait, and I didn't see the point of the overly complex roof and other technologies on the Ocean. Just more expense and stuff to go wrong. My old T4 Autosleeper Trooper had none of these things in it and was none the worse for it. Thank you for your videos, much appreciated.
I agree, the Coast is the best Cali in my book. However, the electric roof is a bonus for some folk (especially shorter people) who struggle to lower a manual pop-top. And we never had any issues with our electric roof, even at 10 years old + Thanks for your comments. Glad you like the reviews!
This VW-ers obsession with big wheels/low-profile tyres is brainless! It's a practical vehicle to go places, not a sports car. The wheel refurb industry must LOVE it.
A nice presentation Peter, all very helpful and clear. I think the flat paint is fine too in the long term, and saves another wedge of cash which can go towards some of those electronics and safety devices or some nice 18 inch wheels.
Pity its so s mall i think i woukd go for larger chauson deisel heating and water Super b bathroom for long stays touring just in 6.mtrs long but horses for courses i guess
This is a great example of how overlooking audio can make a production look less than it is visually. Great comprehensive review, please get in touch if you'd like any (free) advice in affordably approaching sound.
It would be useful to do a review and comparison with the Mercedes Marco Polo. Most of the VW extras and gizmos are standard on the Mercedes and it works out cheaper. However one thing VW offers which Mercedes does not, is 4WD. IMO worth more than the latest electronic toys.
IMHO the California is the better campervan, with better storage and more practical design. However, the Marco Polo has more appeal as a car, if you're only camping v occasionally
@@peterv3642 Waiting on my Ocean build arriving (5 months and counting!) so this is reassuring 😂. Thanks for the thorough review, it's a really good vid 👍
A California is 1.99m, so will go under a 2m barrier. Adria's new Action Duo is also 1.99m and my own VW T6 CMC HemBil Urban (with lowered suspension) will also go under a 2m barrier.
Are you looking for a VW Transporter? If so, take a look at the CMC HemBil Urban - that's what I own (bought partly for its five seatbelts) and it's just won VW Campervan of the Year
There are some great dealer deals at the moment for factory build oceans. I've just ordered one with most of the bells and whistles for well under £70K. You pay for quality! But it's horse for courses. If you want a luxury car that you can also cook and camp in, this is your vehicle. And..... don't they look great!
The boot has two levels. The bottom level is for wet/mucky gear such as boots, levelling wedges, etc - all this stays put when you make up the bed. The upper part of the boot becomes part of the bed, so it's where you keep duvet, pillows, etc and simply unfold them onto the bed. You might also keep soft bags of clothes here (and move those onto the cab seats at night). Nothing gets wet and you don't need to open the tailgate yo make the bed.
Even the most basic VW camper is more than £40k these days. £60k is usually the starting point for a good quality conversion on a decent spec base vehicle. Compared with some of the electric cars being launched right now I think it looks a bargain!
@@peterv3642 I bought a brand new fiat talento onyx edition 170 bhp lwb van for £25k escaping the luxury car tax regime in the height of the pandemic. I got the front duel seats put on a swivel and then got a full high spec professional conversion with a 120 cm rib altair bed, drivelodge roof, two liesure batteries, solar panel, hook up, charge relays, dometic front access fridge and sink, webasto, canopy, new glass, etc.etc. etc. and the total cost was £ 43 1/2k and I still have the second row of seats and bulkhead to sell on ebay.
@@stevezodiac491 Hi Steve. Sounds like you've got yourself a good deal, but a VW would probably be easier to resell and keep a higher value, especially a California and especially as a trade-in. In comparison, I've just tested a VW where the base van (4x4, 204PS, auto, etc) was £52k before conversion!!! It all depends on priorities, budget, etc. I hope you enjoy your camper and the campervan lifestyle! PS There's no luxury car tax on motorhomes
It's horses for courses. Would you want to drive a coachbuilt to the office, or the supermarket, or take it on the school run? What you're paying for here is a sophisticated car, with all the latest safety gismos, that you can also camp in
No coach built conversion is superior to the fit, finish, climate control, water tank/gas design, lighting, upstairs bed base, double glazing, living area electronic controls, electric panorama roof etc of a factory built (and warrantied) California
im sure its well built, but seems a bit style over substance, all that pastel fabric would be a nightmare to keep clean, and the prices are getting ridiculous, especially when compared to the Ford nugget and similar conversions.
I fully agree. There are many conversions that offer more for less money. It seems that the buyer is paying for the appeal that comes with owning a VW. It is lovely though.
Prices are high, but comparable to other models with similar spec and the California Coast looks great value. I've owned a Cali and the residual values are amazing!
Yes, Auto-Sleepers make some nice van conversions but they haven't been in the VW market for a few years now. Their last entry in this sector was the Mercedes-based Wave, which also lacked a shower, toilet, full cooker, etc
Might as well push the boat out and get a Winnebago import, some have bathrooms I hear, just not as handy if you want to visit Devon villages or park anywhere.
i'll stick with my 1993 fiat ducato compass drifter with it's 'u' shaped lounge, the audi crew can buy this but remember- you have to take a dump in a bucket. It's hilarious.
Who is this van for? I mean it looks great and I'd probably want one (although not sure what I'd do with it). Clearly, it's not for families. Is it for individuals or couples and their road trips? I can imagine this would have been great having when I was 20 :) Of course, I wouldn't have the money for anything like this back then. In Europe afaik you can't just stop somewhere and camp there, in most countries this is forbidden. And with the missing facilities, it wouldn't be possible anyway. And in official camping places for multi-day stays, you might just as well set up a base at the camping ground and use a normal car to drive around without having to pack/unpack everything. It is a very nice van. I just don't get the use case for it. Scuba divers etc would be better off with a simple transporter. Really scratching my head here :)
This car isnt't just a camper. You can use for daily shopping as well as it fits in normal parking decks or garages. In europe there is a high density of camping grounds, so you will always find a legal place. In skandinavia it is even more liberal as you can camp almost everywhere. And delivery times for the cali are expanding (up to one year) due to high request at the moment, so vw seems gettin much right.
Why not for families? We use our VW camper for all our family trips (with 7 and 13-year old). Just add an awning and you have plenty of room. Kids like travelling in it better than any car (space, visibility) and the sliding seat makes it so versatile for load carrying. Plus it's the same footprint as an estate car for shopping, school run, etc, but residual values are immense compared with most cars. When camping, it's much better for days out than a car as you still have your kitchen with you for cold drinks, sandwiches, etc without paying rip-off prices in tourist hotspots.
@@timbutcher7232 Sorry, throw away comment but changed tambor doors to sliding solid. Push buttons for opening up the kitchen surfaces. Glass top over sink/cooker now in two parts. Same sprung base on roof bed as the Merc. Guess there is a swapping of ideas.
@@davidsawyer1526 No, no, that's fine. The Marco Polo is a great product, too, but some folk reckon it must be better because of the star on the front. Both the Cali and the MC have been around a long time, each gradually improving
Not sure why you would "poop in a Tesco bag". Carry a Porta Potti in the boot and use that if you want to, or use campsite facilities. When you're out in your BMW or Land Rover do you poop in a bag?
Many campervans of this size do not come with a toilet room. Some have a Porta Potti in a cupboard but you really need a larger base van than the VW T6 to be able to get a toilet/washroom.
@@manfacilitymetalworks1296 Not if its your only vehicle. It makes a great daily driver - 4 seatbelts and a massive boot that fits in most car parks as its under 2m...it also parks itself, auto cruise control, LED headlights, Lane Assist etc etc
3 reasons why I wouldn't buy a vw california.. 1st chest fridge..you loose a 3rd of your valuable work top your constantly having to move stuff every time you go into fridge.. 2nd the slide out bed. you have to move everything from the floor when making the bed..if you have a dog you have lost 50% of the floor space for it to lay and sleep.. 3rd the biggest put off the wrong side sliding door..opening onto oncoming traffic at almost every place you stop to enjoy a cup of tea.
Yes but (1) chest fridge is used in other models too and it has advantages (it holds more for the space taken up and less 'coolth' is lost when you pen the door, so it's more efficient (2) You don't have to move everything off the floor, although some floor space is lost. We owned a Cali before our current camper and still had room for a portable loo and dog on the floor at night (3) The ideal is to have twin sliding doors but that's very rare (Ford Nugget does - see my video on that). If you take your UK-converted VW abroad, the door will be on the 'wrong' side than - and arguably you're more likely to have an accident abroad. The Cali isn't perfect but no camper is...
@@peterv3642 yes you can get more in a chest fridge but the problem is your stacking everything on top. you cant organize food properly like a conventional fridge..your constantly taking things out to get to the item you want . well that was the problem i had in my old Westfalia..
1) The fridge needs to be packed intelligently, the raised rack works for items needed quickly/regularly the rest is for longer term storage. The slide out table is always ready to add to the work space, just takes a moment to set up. 2) We have only slept downstairs on rare occasions when we avoided using the pop bed because of very high winds or in slightly dodgy areas. The upper bed is great and leaves the ground floor in the spacious lounge mode. 3) There is full walk through access to the front cab area, just use the passenger door if necessary, never a problem in the real world. If in doubt hire, there are a number of companies out there who only use the California.
Some are as good, but many aren't, and, if you spec the base vehicle up to the same level (in some areas not even possible), you'll end up spending similar money. Remember this is a 199PS DSG with all the toys... My own 'van is a CMC HemBil Urban, but I've owned a Cali, too, as have several key motorhome journalists
Pete I'm clad you agree that some are ! If people wanted to save more cash they could by a second hand van less than a year old and save 20% ish then fit it out.
@@peterv3642 There's a 2020 VW van on auto trader with 7000 miles top of the range storyline 204bhp for £39k , £10k to £15k fit out for more options than you could shake a stick at.
All depends what you want. We've used a California with two kids and (with an awning) found it to be superbly practical with far more storage than many bigger 'vans. Anything bigger would not work for the daily driver role, which a SWB VW (at the same length as a BMW 5-Series) does brilliantly
Lovely but way way overpriced, you could buy an ex demo or low mileage 2 year old auto sleeper and an ex demo Audi A4 and still have change, plus you have a loo and a shower! A friend of mine has one and I cannot see where it’s a £70k vehicle. The basic panel vans are hugely overpriced, we’ve switched to transit customs as the vw numbers just don’t stack up any more.
You always get more by buying used but the California isn't the best-selling campervan in the UK without good reason. Yes, it's expensive but so would that Audi A4 be if bought new (a Skoda would be better value) but some will always pay the extra for an Audi, just as many will think £70k ok for one of the best campers around
@@peterv3642 I'd rather buy a campervan, cheaper or same price depending.,and brings everything you need. The California looks great but really expensive. 👍👍
@@rustycage670 All depends what you want. Price is comparable to the Mercedes Marco Polo and many other VW T6.1 campers when spec'd up to this level and some (not all) conversions of the VW are poor in comparison
@@peterv3642 I've been dreaming 🤣🤣 of the westfalia james cook with the off road package, looks amazing.. Off road unbeatable, love it, beautiful... If I had the money that would be my choice..
No shower in a camper of this size but you can carry a portable loo. If you want more facilities you need a larger van, like the Grand California maybe
Why? It's easy to spend more on a third-party conversion of a VW van that won't have anything like the resale value. I owned a secondhand Cali for three years - after which it was worth virtually what I paid for it! Cheapest motoring I've ever had...
It's very automotive, as you'd expect of something made entirely by VW. If you want something more traditional, the real wood furniture in a Rolling Homes is rather lovely
Thank you Peter, your reviews are the gold standard, and the best on RUclips by a mile.
I am pleased that you mentioned the Coast towards the end of the review, our Coast arrives in a week's time after a six month wait, and I didn't see the point of the overly complex roof and other technologies on the Ocean. Just more expense and stuff to go wrong. My old T4 Autosleeper Trooper had none of these things in it and was none the worse for it.
Thank you for your videos, much appreciated.
I agree, the Coast is the best Cali in my book. However, the electric roof is a bonus for some folk (especially shorter people) who struggle to lower a manual pop-top. And we never had any issues with our electric roof, even at 10 years old +
Thanks for your comments. Glad you like the reviews!
Dear Peter,
Thank you for taking shoes off when inside California - shows you take care of things 😊
Campervans are expensive, so we like to give them back in the condition they arrived
I really enjoyed the video. What a good review
The best review of this model I have seen thanks
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This VW-ers obsession with big wheels/low-profile tyres is brainless! It's a practical vehicle to go places, not a sports car. The wheel refurb industry must LOVE it.
Yes, 17in or 18in is plenty but you see loads of T6s with 20s.
Plus anything over 18" means no spare as it won't fit in the underbody rack.
A nice presentation Peter, all very helpful and clear. I think the flat paint is fine too in the long term, and saves another wedge of cash which can go towards some of those electronics and safety devices or some nice 18 inch wheels.
Thank you Graham
Pity its so s
mall i think i woukd go for larger chauson deisel heating and water
Super b bathroom for long stays touring just in 6.mtrs long but horses for courses i guess
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. My favourite Compact Campervan
Glad you enjoyed it
Would be your most ridiculously expensive Compact Campervan too.
How can they justify this, without showing their huge profits from them !
Dream machine 😍 Very agreeable IMO
It's a real shame these aren't sold in the US. The older T3 and T4 campers are still fetching 30k+ so clearly there's a demand.
This is a great example of how overlooking audio can make a production look less than it is visually. Great comprehensive review, please get in touch if you'd like any (free) advice in affordably approaching sound.
Great review, and that looks like Water Street in Stamford if I'm not mistaken
Well spotted!
@@peterv3642 A bit of Manthorpe too for good measure I see
@@jonmortermusic You know the area!!
It would be useful to do a review and comparison with the Mercedes Marco Polo.
Most of the VW extras and gizmos are standard on the Mercedes and it works out cheaper.
However one thing VW offers which Mercedes does not, is 4WD. IMO worth more than the latest electronic toys.
IMHO the California is the better campervan, with better storage and more practical design. However, the Marco Polo has more appeal as a car, if you're only camping v occasionally
I understand from my research that the VW holds its value better too.
Why did the front windows both just randomly open at 11:15?
I wish I knew. That wasn't the only odd electrical glitch on this example...
@@peterv3642 Waiting on my Ocean build arriving (5 months and counting!) so this is reassuring 😂. Thanks for the thorough review, it's a really good vid 👍
Maybe a distant relative of Herbie...
How high are they? Can you get it under a 2 m height barrier?
A California is 1.99m, so will go under a 2m barrier.
Adria's new Action Duo is also 1.99m and my own VW T6 CMC HemBil Urban (with lowered suspension) will also go under a 2m barrier.
Nice camper indeed.
nice camper van
Yes, still one of the best in its class
What model to pick if there are 5 of us?
Are you looking for a VW Transporter? If so, take a look at the CMC HemBil Urban - that's what I own (bought partly for its five seatbelts) and it's just won VW Campervan of the Year
There are some great dealer deals at the moment for factory build oceans. I've just ordered one with most of the bells and whistles for well under £70K. You pay for quality!
But it's horse for courses. If you want a luxury car that you can also cook and camp in, this is your vehicle. And..... don't they look great!
Totally agree. The Cali is not cheap but you get what you pay for. If you can get a discount, too, then even better
@@peterv3642 Yes, it's worth shopping around for a deal - I did, and you can always try negotiating!
Well done...
Thank you!
Did you get the registration plate pun ?
Great, isn't it! VW press office have always had nice number plates
What happens to the stuff in the "boot" when you rig the bed? Out in the rain?
The boot has two levels. The bottom level is for wet/mucky gear such as boots, levelling wedges, etc - all this stays put when you make up the bed. The upper part of the boot becomes part of the bed, so it's where you keep duvet, pillows, etc and simply unfold them onto the bed. You might also keep soft bags of clothes here (and move those onto the cab seats at night). Nothing gets wet and you don't need to open the tailgate yo make the bed.
70k. 40 I get but 70?
Even the most basic VW camper is more than £40k these days. £60k is usually the starting point for a good quality conversion on a decent spec base vehicle. Compared with some of the electric cars being launched right now I think it looks a bargain!
@@peterv3642 I bought a brand new fiat talento onyx edition 170 bhp lwb van for £25k escaping the luxury car tax regime in the height of the pandemic. I got the front duel seats put on a swivel and then got a full high spec professional conversion with a 120 cm rib altair bed, drivelodge roof, two liesure batteries, solar panel, hook up, charge relays, dometic front access fridge and sink, webasto, canopy, new glass, etc.etc. etc. and the total cost was £ 43 1/2k and I still have the second row of seats and bulkhead to sell on ebay.
@@stevezodiac491 Hi Steve. Sounds like you've got yourself a good deal, but a VW would probably be easier to resell and keep a higher value, especially a California and especially as a trade-in. In comparison, I've just tested a VW where the base van (4x4, 204PS, auto, etc) was £52k before conversion!!! It all depends on priorities, budget, etc. I hope you enjoy your camper and the campervan lifestyle!
PS There's no luxury car tax on motorhomes
Lovely but for £70K you could have a far superior coach built version without doubt
It's horses for courses. Would you want to drive a coachbuilt to the office, or the supermarket, or take it on the school run? What you're paying for here is a sophisticated car, with all the latest safety gismos, that you can also camp in
No coach built conversion is superior to the fit, finish, climate control, water tank/gas design, lighting, upstairs bed base, double glazing, living area electronic controls, electric panorama roof etc of a factory built (and warrantied) California
@@timbutcher7232 oh of course they are, it's just that people such as yourself need to rationalize spending so much money on a subpar product.
im sure its well built, but seems a bit style over substance, all that pastel fabric would be a nightmare to keep clean, and the prices are getting ridiculous, especially when compared to the Ford nugget and similar conversions.
I fully agree. There are many conversions that offer more for less money. It seems that the buyer is paying for the appeal that comes with owning a VW. It is lovely though.
Prices are high, but comparable to other models with similar spec and the California Coast looks great value. I've owned a Cali and the residual values are amazing!
£70,000 and no loo, shower room or full cooker. I'll stick to my Autosleeper thanks - they know how to do van conversions.
Yes, Auto-Sleepers make some nice van conversions but they haven't been in the VW market for a few years now. Their last entry in this sector was the Mercedes-based Wave, which also lacked a shower, toilet, full cooker, etc
Might as well push the boat out and get a Winnebago import, some have bathrooms I hear, just not as handy if you want to visit Devon villages or park anywhere.
i'll stick with my 1993 fiat ducato compass drifter with it's 'u' shaped lounge, the audi crew can buy this but remember- you have to take a dump in a bucket. It's hilarious.
Surely, in all campers and motorhomes you take a dump in a bucket; it's just that some are a different shape !
Or use the nice heated facilities on any good-quality campsite? Then you don't have to empty your own waste
@@peterv3642 Yea, we do - only use toilet if no other choice. Usual vw gang are wild camping.
@@thetessellater9163 , Aye but ours is sealed!
Who is this van for? I mean it looks great and I'd probably want one (although not sure what I'd do with it).
Clearly, it's not for families. Is it for individuals or couples and their road trips? I can imagine this would have been great having when I was 20 :) Of course, I wouldn't have the money for anything like this back then. In Europe afaik you can't just stop somewhere and camp there, in most countries this is forbidden. And with the missing facilities, it wouldn't be possible anyway. And in official camping places for multi-day stays, you might just as well set up a base at the camping ground and use a normal car to drive around without having to pack/unpack everything. It is a very nice van. I just don't get the use case for it. Scuba divers etc would be better off with a simple transporter. Really scratching my head here :)
This car isnt't just a camper. You can use for daily shopping as well as it fits in normal parking decks or garages. In europe there is a high density of camping grounds, so you will always find a legal place. In skandinavia it is even more liberal as you can camp almost everywhere. And delivery times for the cali are expanding (up to one year) due to high request at the moment, so vw seems gettin much right.
Why not for families? We use our VW camper for all our family trips (with 7 and 13-year old). Just add an awning and you have plenty of room. Kids like travelling in it better than any car (space, visibility) and the sliding seat makes it so versatile for load carrying. Plus it's the same footprint as an estate car for shopping, school run, etc, but residual values are immense compared with most cars. When camping, it's much better for days out than a car as you still have your kitchen with you for cold drinks, sandwiches, etc without paying rip-off prices in tourist hotspots.
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Why too far away?
So its now even more like the Mercedes Marco Polo
Why?
@@timbutcher7232 Sorry, throw away comment but changed tambor doors to sliding solid. Push buttons for opening up the kitchen surfaces. Glass top over sink/cooker now in two parts. Same sprung base on roof bed as the Merc. Guess there is a swapping of ideas.
@@davidsawyer1526 The camping chair and outdoor table storage is still far better in the Cali, which is a more practical vehicle to live in.
@@peterv3642 Im sure. My point was that the VW improvements have been in Marco for three years. Im not looking to score points
@@davidsawyer1526 No, no, that's fine. The Marco Polo is a great product, too, but some folk reckon it must be better because of the star on the front. Both the Cali and the MC have been around a long time, each gradually improving
80 k and you still poop in a Tesco bag. Where can I get one
You can reverse park while doing a poop and scrambling eggs all at the same time. Any one want to buy a Tesco's carrier bag!
Not sure why you would "poop in a Tesco bag". Carry a Porta Potti in the boot and use that if you want to, or use campsite facilities. When you're out in your BMW or Land Rover do you poop in a bag?
Tescos.
No toilet?
Many campervans of this size do not come with a toilet room. Some have a Porta Potti in a cupboard but you really need a larger base van than the VW T6 to be able to get a toilet/washroom.
Not in that size van. Not a toilet compartment anyhow. No space...
Nearly 70,000 for a camper. Bloody hell. Sod that.
A high spec T6.1 panel can be well over £40k...
You can get £9k off with Drive the Deal. Also, depreciation is smaller than any other new vehicle - appreciation at the minute!
Still a lot of debt to get into for a few weekends away though?
@@manfacilitymetalworks1296 Or the same price as a mid-range Land Rover, which is just a car.
@@manfacilitymetalworks1296 Not if its your only vehicle. It makes a great daily driver - 4 seatbelts and a massive boot that fits in most car parks as its under 2m...it also parks itself, auto cruise control, LED headlights, Lane Assist etc etc
If I’d paid that sort of money I’d be asking you politely to stop leaning on my wing mirror!
No wing mirrors were harmed in this review...
3 reasons why I wouldn't buy a vw california..
1st chest fridge..you loose a 3rd of your valuable work top your constantly having to move stuff every time you go into fridge..
2nd the slide out bed. you have to move everything from the floor when making the bed..if you have a dog you have lost 50% of the floor space for it to lay and sleep..
3rd the biggest put off the wrong side sliding door..opening onto oncoming traffic at almost every place you stop to enjoy a cup of tea.
Yes but (1) chest fridge is used in other models too and it has advantages (it holds more for the space taken up and less 'coolth' is lost when you pen the door, so it's more efficient (2) You don't have to move everything off the floor, although some floor space is lost. We owned a Cali before our current camper and still had room for a portable loo and dog on the floor at night (3) The ideal is to have twin sliding doors but that's very rare (Ford Nugget does - see my video on that). If you take your UK-converted VW abroad, the door will be on the 'wrong' side than - and arguably you're more likely to have an accident abroad.
The Cali isn't perfect but no camper is...
@@peterv3642 yes you can get more in a chest fridge but the problem is your stacking everything on top. you cant organize food properly like a conventional fridge..your constantly taking things out to get to the item you want .
well that was the problem i had in my old Westfalia..
@@vanagon1966 There is a basket in it, so you do have 2 'layers'. You can get a 2-sliding door Beach.
1) The fridge needs to be packed intelligently, the raised rack works for items needed quickly/regularly the rest is for longer term storage. The slide out table is always ready to add to the work space, just takes a moment to set up.
2) We have only slept downstairs on rare occasions when we avoided using the pop bed because of very high winds or in slightly dodgy areas. The upper bed is great and leaves the ground floor in the spacious lounge mode.
3) There is full walk through access to the front cab area, just use the passenger door if necessary, never a problem in the real world.
If in doubt hire, there are a number of companies out there who only use the California.
@Paul moles Believe it or not your drivers door also opens up on to oncoming traffic
Some of the after mark conversion are as good and in some cases better & your able to save £20k.
It looks exactly the same as last year's model which was also the same as the previous years, you're talking up something which is stagnant
Some are as good, but many aren't, and, if you spec the base vehicle up to the same level (in some areas not even possible), you'll end up spending similar money. Remember this is a 199PS DSG with all the toys... My own 'van is a CMC HemBil Urban, but I've owned a Cali, too, as have several key motorhome journalists
Pete I'm clad you agree that some are ! If people wanted to save more cash they could by a second hand van less than a year old and save 20% ish then fit it out.
@@peterv3642 There's a 2020 VW van on auto trader with 7000 miles top of the range storyline 204bhp for £39k , £10k to £15k fit out for more options than you could shake a stick at.
@@peterv3642 how do you find the build quality and conversion quality/useability of the cmc?
No good to small and impractical
All depends what you want. We've used a California with two kids and (with an awning) found it to be superbly practical with far more storage than many bigger 'vans. Anything bigger would not work for the daily driver role, which a SWB VW (at the same length as a BMW 5-Series) does brilliantly
Lovely but way way overpriced, you could buy an ex demo or low mileage 2 year old auto sleeper and an ex demo Audi A4 and still have change, plus you have a loo and a shower! A friend of mine has one and I cannot see where it’s a £70k vehicle. The basic panel vans are hugely overpriced, we’ve switched to transit customs as the vw numbers just don’t stack up any more.
You always get more by buying used but the California isn't the best-selling campervan in the UK without good reason. Yes, it's expensive but so would that Audi A4 be if bought new (a Skoda would be better value) but some will always pay the extra for an Audi, just as many will think £70k ok for one of the best campers around
Why in the name of all that is holy don't they sell these in...California.
I think that is one for VW to answer!
very cheap lol
Take into account the residual value and cheap holidays and it's actually very good value
@@peterv3642 I'd rather buy a campervan, cheaper or same price depending.,and brings everything you need.
The California looks great but really expensive. 👍👍
@@rustycage670 All depends what you want. Price is comparable to the Mercedes Marco Polo and many other VW T6.1 campers when spec'd up to this level and some (not all) conversions of the VW are poor in comparison
@@peterv3642 I've been dreaming 🤣🤣 of the westfalia james cook with the off road package, looks amazing..
Off road unbeatable, love it, beautiful...
If I had the money that would be my choice..
@@rustycage670 Have you seen our video of the RP Motorhomes Rebel Overlander 4x4? That sounds like your sort of 'van!
Where is the toilet 🚽 or shower ???? 70k and you can’t take a piss , nah no way
No shower in a camper of this size but you can carry a portable loo. If you want more facilities you need a larger van, like the Grand California maybe
Overpriced.
Why? It's easy to spend more on a third-party conversion of a VW van that won't have anything like the resale value. I owned a secondhand Cali for three years - after which it was worth virtually what I paid for it! Cheapest motoring I've ever had...
Looks rather bland and corporate inside
It's very automotive, as you'd expect of something made entirely by VW. If you want something more traditional, the real wood furniture in a Rolling Homes is rather lovely