I was not a big fan of the rotary scythe. We used to use an MC... Years ago I was mowing for the neighbor and grabbed a 100ft garden hose :(. You never saw a tractor killed so fast ;). Took a half an hour to cut the hose off the flail...2.5 ft at a a time!! Good luck Brad, keep on keeping on :)
@@LVFFarmVlogs The MC's in my area are being used for corn stalks!! We tried to recondition red clover after rain with it...didn't work so good, just lumpy wet lumps :(. Your usage makes the most sense, especially if you follow with the tedder!
Got half inch of rain at 1 am! Thats alright, I dont mind if it gets rained on withing 24 hours of cutting, but after that then i hate it ti get rained on, dont need brown dusty crap hay! Lol
The hay looks good. Keep us posted on the results. I think it should help. I hope to start cutting this weekend or first of the week. Have a good weekend.
I grew up following my dad who would cut the hay with our JD 50 and an old McCormick mounted sickle mower that we jimmy rigged on the back of the tractor. I would pull a McCormick 2A conditioner with our JD 60. 2 pass everything. Those were the days.
I look for a conditioner 7 years ago and could not find one so we fixed the hay bine. Have you ever tried Ted you're Hey the day you cut it. I try it several years ago and it makes a big difference. I am chasing the hay bine around today with the tedder.
Yes, I have a tedder. That helps, but I wanted to damage the stems a little more in hoped that that would help. I tedded it today after work, and will probably ted it again tomorrow
I'm not a fan of how uneven it leaves hay/grass if mowing with it (new or sharpening the flails might help) but i do like it for corn stalks and clipping pastures, road ditches, etc. If it works as a flail conditioner, thats all the more reason to keep it around!! Thanks for the comment Joe
Disc with the flail is the BEST!!! Miss having one! Stuck with rolls for now.😪 We did go back over some with the old discbine with the flail conditioner. I've seen a few articles where they've conditioned every day, or twice a day.. Rolls do make a difference over not at all... Get er done! Thanks for the video
It will most definitely help in my opinion. Tube continuous wrapping would in my view be your best bet for an operation of your size but you could add some acid preservative at the baler if your worried and stack them singularly in a long row.
Thats cool. What if you took the hood off and let the stuff fly out the back?? What broke on the hydroswing? I might know if an ok 1600 JD! If you need the wrapper let me know, i might be using it this weekend?
Looks like some really nice hay. I'm curious how it works out. I've used one of those New Idea cut/conditioner once. I liked how it didn't plug up like the sickle would at times on the hay mower we had. I got my little hay field mowed & baled up this week before the rain hit us. Thanks for the ride along. Stay safe.
I read an article in the 90s about a study done with the Cut/ditioner. It said that animals preferred hay made with the New Idea 9 of 10 vs standard haybine. It was determined that the Cut/ditioner made a finer, fluffy windrow. Great vid, bud.
There was a lot of research done in your state on a form of cutting and conditioning called maceration, to get true hay in a day, they basically mulched it, it was too fine to lay in windrows so they pressed it into a mat. I've no experience with this or cutditioners but plenty with grass and disc mower and flail conditioners, only one way to seriously reduce drying time is to cut lighter multiple crops and to spread it out full width of the mower immediately and ted it a few hours after. Hay in my country is almost impossible as getting 4 dry days in a row is very very rare so we pretty much just concede to making silage bales or what you'd call baleage. Mow around 9 or 10am ted at 12 either rake at 6 and bale that evening or wait till the next day when the dew is off. Grass rewets over night so while it seems a good idea to wait till the next morning it can be counter productive. This all hinges though on cutting light multiple crops we cut around 1 to 1.2 ton of dry matter per acre each cut, roughly 3 to 4 weeks growth. Less material means less water to evaporate off so it takes less sunlight hours per acre to dry down.
guys around here use the cutditioner for that my first discmower had the flail conditioners works OK on grass but the rollers definitely work better on legumes
Measure the shaft diameter, the bearing casing and the bolt pattern, you should be able to order one from shoup. If not, take the measurements to Bearing headquarters in Eau Claire, they should be able to help you out
The New Idea cutditioner will do a good job doing what your using it for and the only thing better is the MC Rotary Sy , Basically same as the New Idea the only difference is the MC has an open back like a haybine does. The light stuff falls to the ground first and the wet heavy hay gets thrown out the back and ends up on top of the dry stuff to dry it out. With the weather we get anymore you need anything that will help dry hay out quicker to get it baled before it rains gets it ! Bandit
Half inch around 2 am. I'm going to ted it on about an hour. I'm out checking pastures right now to see when i need to move the cows. Winds blowing nice, its sunny and low humidity, around 72 degrees. Its just a beautiful day
Good day So your swing mower broke? How wide was that? 9-12ft. Your cutditioner is 9, if hay crop was heavy, it could be hard on bearings, but it will be interesting to see how it works. Thanks
That is some heavy first cutting! Not too many farmers that aren't living on Poor Farms these days, takes a day job just to buy fuel and repair parts. What's with these weird posts from "Song" - "Kippy", are they Bots?
I was not a big fan of the rotary scythe. We used to use an MC... Years ago I was mowing for the neighbor and grabbed a 100ft garden hose :(. You never saw a tractor killed so fast ;). Took a half an hour to cut the hose off the flail...2.5 ft at a a time!! Good luck Brad, keep on keeping on :)
I like it for corn stalks, but I dont know thats I'd like it as a hay mower. As a hay conditioner to rework the windrows it seems to do a great job
@@LVFFarmVlogs The MC's in my area are being used for corn stalks!! We tried to recondition red clover after rain with it...didn't work so good, just lumpy wet lumps :(. Your usage makes the most sense, especially if you follow with the tedder!
Finally got my cutditioner in the corn field chopping corn stalks. Works great.
They do a great job on corn stalks!
It will definitely help to dry it down...hopefully it won't rain on you snd you can get some high quality feed👍👍
Got half inch of rain at 1 am! Thats alright, I dont mind if it gets rained on withing 24 hours of cutting, but after that then i hate it ti get rained on, dont need brown dusty crap hay! Lol
@@LVFFarmVlogs ya if its going to get rained on it should be within 24...it looks like a decent stand 👌
The hay looks good. Keep us posted on the results. I think it should help. I hope to start cutting this weekend or first of the week. Have a good weekend.
I grew up following my dad who would cut the hay with our JD 50 and an old McCormick mounted sickle mower that we jimmy rigged on the back of the tractor. I would pull a McCormick 2A conditioner with our JD 60. 2 pass everything. Those were the days.
I look for a conditioner 7 years ago and could not find one so we fixed the hay bine. Have you ever tried Ted you're Hey the day you cut it. I try it several years ago and it makes a big difference. I am chasing the hay bine around today with the tedder.
Yes, I have a tedder. That helps, but I wanted to damage the stems a little more in hoped that that would help. I tedded it today after work, and will probably ted it again tomorrow
Cripping the stem is definitely the key. Good luck when bailing.
Used one of those for years, great for making hay.
I'm not a fan of how uneven it leaves hay/grass if mowing with it (new or sharpening the flails might help) but i do like it for corn stalks and clipping pastures, road ditches, etc. If it works as a flail conditioner, thats all the more reason to keep it around!! Thanks for the comment Joe
You gotta do what you gotta do. Nothing wrong with experimenting. Use what you have instead of making the bank richer
When money is tight, you use what ya got!
Disc with the flail is the BEST!!!
Miss having one! Stuck with rolls for now.😪
We did go back over some with the old discbine with the flail conditioner. I've seen a few articles where they've conditioned every day, or twice a day..
Rolls do make a difference over not at all...
Get er done! Thanks for the video
oh the the joys of haying season
It will most definitely help in my opinion. Tube continuous wrapping would in my view be your best bet for an operation of your size but you could add some acid preservative at the baler if your worried and stack them singularly in a long row.
I like your thinking Dan! I have been considering adding a preservative tank to the baler
Thats cool. What if you took the hood off and let the stuff fly out the back??
What broke on the hydroswing?
I might know if an ok 1600 JD!
If you need the wrapper let me know, i might be using it this weekend?
Looking good, making rounds or little squares?
Rounds
Looks like some really nice hay. I'm curious how it works out. I've used one of those New Idea cut/conditioner once. I liked how it didn't plug up like the sickle would at times on the hay mower we had. I got my little hay field mowed & baled up this week before the rain hit us. Thanks for the ride along. Stay safe.
You need a Moco Brad! I know I know money don't grow on trees ! Well good luck Brad it's worth a try!!👍🍻🍻
looks like thats gonna work good
I read an article in the 90s about a study done with the Cut/ditioner. It said that animals preferred hay made with the New Idea 9 of 10 vs standard haybine. It was determined that the Cut/ditioner made a finer, fluffy windrow. Great vid, bud.
There was a lot of research done in your state on a form of cutting and conditioning called maceration, to get true hay in a day, they basically mulched it, it was too fine to lay in windrows so they pressed it into a mat.
I've no experience with this or cutditioners but plenty with grass and disc mower and flail conditioners, only one way to seriously reduce drying time is to cut lighter multiple crops and to spread it out full width of the mower immediately and ted it a few hours after. Hay in my country is almost impossible as getting 4 dry days in a row is very very rare so we pretty much just concede to making silage bales or what you'd call baleage.
Mow around 9 or 10am ted at 12 either rake at 6 and bale that evening or wait till the next day when the dew is off. Grass rewets over night so while it seems a good idea to wait till the next morning it can be counter productive. This all hinges though on cutting light multiple crops we cut around 1 to 1.2 ton of dry matter per acre each cut, roughly 3 to 4 weeks growth. Less material means less water to evaporate off so it takes less sunlight hours per acre to dry down.
No problem making hay this summer
That’s nice looking hay Brad!
That's gonna make some nice hay if you can get it dry. What your doing looks like it will help. Good luck.
Glad to know I'm not the only one that has done that it works well
I have one of those new idea 270s sitting outback and been thinking about getting it up and running
Does that machine cut like a discbine? Never seen one. I have a 8360 case IH mower with one rubber and one steel roller. Does a great job crimping.
Its similar to a green chopper
Looks like it's worth a try, more videos on this crop please.
Great for conditioning dry hay!
Good to see looks a nice crop👍
guys around here use the cutditioner for that my first discmower had the flail conditioners works OK on grass but the rollers definitely work better on legumes
Any idea where to get parts for the cutditioner? Bearing on flail shaft is shot
Measure the shaft diameter, the bearing casing and the bolt pattern, you should be able to order one from shoup. If not, take the measurements to Bearing headquarters in Eau Claire, they should be able to help you out
The New Idea cutditioner will do a good job doing what your using it for and the only thing better is the MC Rotary Sy , Basically same as the New Idea the only difference is the MC has an open back like a haybine does. The light stuff falls to the ground first and the wet heavy hay gets thrown out the back and ends up on top of the dry stuff to dry it out. With the weather we get anymore you need anything that will help dry hay out quicker to get it baled before it rains gets it ! Bandit
Does that cutditioner work for corn stalks?
Sure does! Thats what I have been using the last few years to shred my stalks. Does a great job
Parts easy to come by? Looking at a 7' just for stalks for $650.
@@thejtl77 Can buy the flails from Shoup, and the bearings can be bought at most local suppliers
That should work pretty good. I was looking for a mower like that when I got my discbine.
Awesome man I can't believe I typed in cutditioner in the hope of some new footage and there is a new 6 min video up just within the last few hours.
Did your hay get rained on early this morning Brad, rained hard here for a good hour, hope it missed you👍
Half inch around 2 am. I'm going to ted it on about an hour. I'm out checking pastures right now to see when i need to move the cows. Winds blowing nice, its sunny and low humidity, around 72 degrees. Its just a beautiful day
Time to buy a tedder
I have one, i will be tedding this hay tomorrow
That machine does fluff it up a lot that will be some good feed.
Good day So your swing mower broke? How wide was that? 9-12ft. Your cutditioner is 9, if hay crop was heavy, it could be hard on bearings, but it will be interesting to see how it works. Thanks
The hesston is broke, the OMC works, it just doesn't have conditioning rolls in it anymore, both are 12 foot cut. The cutditioner is a 7 foot cut
I had almost forgot you bought that thing lol
Looks like it really turned out heavy swaths
it looks like your dragging a old chicken coop behind the tractor but i like that thing
Nice looking grass! Is the weather warming up good for you or still just middling?
80 and hit 90 the other day!
Oh God no not a cut and conditioner!!!😂🤣👍
👍🤣🤣🤣
@@LVFFarmVlogs it's a good idea lol tho!!👍
You just have to use what you have
really interested in this. i have a deere model
That is some heavy first cutting! Not too many farmers that aren't living on Poor Farms these days, takes a day job just to buy fuel and repair parts. What's with these weird posts from "Song" - "Kippy", are they Bots?
why u need a bail raper while u could store it like corn i see aot of peopel doing that in my countery
I could chop it and pile it. But there is a lot less potential for spoilage if its dry or wrapped in single bales