Remember when someone made a photoshopped portable gamecube in the shape of a gameboy advanced SP? Someone actually made one as well not that long ago.
This device is very dangerous. It seems like Microsoft wants to test market reactions to a device called "Xbox" that can't run any Xbox games. According to leaks, they have already halted work on a handheld with a native Xbox OS. If this "Xbox Ally" succeeds, they may release the next Xbox console with Windows, causing us to lose all the games we've purchased over the last 15 years. My Xbox library contains 932 games (393 owned), yet only 40 are playable on PC and most don’t even sync my save data.
The optimized Windows announcement is arguably MUCH bigger than the handheld itself. Windows on Handhelds has been a terrible experience since... always. Getting a version that kills bloat and actually considers the controls a user has available (NOT relying solely on a KB/M) might have just saved Windows in this segment.
I'm hoping we'll be able to install this version of Windows on the Steam Deck. No more Anti-cheat issues or compatibility problems, it should "just work". A man can dream.
Absolutely. The only issue with this is that the optimizations made for this install are likely tailor-made to the hardware, meaning that exact ISO is not 100% guaranteed to work 1:1 or run properly with other existing handhelds on the market right now. Ideally they'd have made the optimizations with other mobile hardware configurations in mind... But let's not forget this is Microsoft. Always willing to be pleasantly surprised, much less willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Guess we'll just need to wait and see when they either make the OS available, or someone manages to fork it onto other hardware.
thats a low-effort take. When people say "no one", they're impying the general public. If they want to sell it to enthusiasts only, then fine, it will sell as expected, but niche products normally struggle when they depend on a certain demographic to succeed.
@@jonrios1389 I'm just interested to see if they're going to subsidized it or not. Apparently Asus recently raised the price of the Ally X up to $900 recently so could really see it going either way.
@@jakobstocker5697 there is no other way it’s going to be expensive and that’s totally fine start saving now 50-100 bucks here and there so by the time it launches snag one it’s easy to do people like to blow hundreds and thousands of dollars a year on stupid things that bring them joy for about 12 minutes and buy fast food all year adding up to thousands a year.
Another proof that competition is really important to push those huge companies to rethink being complacent and giving the customers minimal improvements.
I don't like how handhelds are so big now days how yhe fuck is this supposed to be a handheld you can't hold this you can't out it in a pocket this is a handheld for a 40 year old man who doenst go out with a game
@@Pat12379 I dunno, I think its fine. I look at it like the Nintendo Switch. Its really not aimed at being a playground handheld like the original gameboy(s) were positioned, its more or less meant to be used in a home. The weight/ergonomics matter more imo. I find the Switch is ok to hold but the angle of the joycons dont feel as good over time in the hands.
@@Pat12379 Oh absolutely. I do love having a nice big screen, especially for legibility's sake in the modern era with games being so detailed (e.g. having to squint to see fine detail on a 5~7 inch screen), but at the same time, if the system isn't perfectly balanced in the hand/too heavy/etc it is an instant killer of interest for many.
Microsoft realizing they better fix gaming performance across windows and handhelds before people start installing steam os on their desktops🤣 I fucking love you valve
@@Madwonk I just hate how competition is almost necessary for consumers to actually see innovation from companies, and it’s never about keeping us happy… it’s about keeping their numbers up.
@@xkernalsandersx you do know sony is actually working on a new handheld not a portal and thats awesome for everyone. im a pc player and enjoy all three console makers its great to have competition
This could be a lot but I would like 3 simple things from this Handheld. 1- Quick Resume 2- Way more PlayAnywhere titles (from older games too ex: OG Xbox, 360, One and Series) 3- Free online play just like on Steam
This seems like it’s going to be considered a PC not an Xbox console. I think it will play your PC Xbox games which have free online or you can play your Steam library on it. But I hope they expand Xbox play anywhere and bring Quick resume to PC
@@nahtanoj92 I don’t think it’s asking a lot but the question is will they do it. Just like I don’t think it would be a lot for Steam to increase compatibility with older games on Windows The quick resume is pretty much already on Windows just not as efficient as it could be Play Anywhere is already a program they just need to hopefully expand upon it And free online play is already on their PC titles to my knowledge. At least I’ve never paid to play any Xbox titles online on PC
It already has free online play, you do not need to pay a subscription fee to play Xbox PC games online (or Steam, Epic, etc. games) which is what this thing runs.
This is more just a better rog ally tbh I say this as a person who loves access so I think that you won't have to pay for online play but you will get game streaming if you have game pass so if you like streaming games do what you wanna
@@TechnologyNToys literally what I’m waiting on. That’s gone happen within the first month fs seeing as it’s “just windows”. I don’t think it will do better than steam OS with efficiency but maybe it will get sleep wake function
No it didn't, this is a myth. It was a custom OS that was built from the ground up for the console. It had some aspects of Windows, like its own flavour of Direct3D, but it was NOT based on Windows. Microsoft have even confirmed this.
@@WhitePointerGaming have you seen the Xbox documentary. It states verbatim they "stole the source code one night from a server and stipped it down", so much so that Bill Gates was beyond mad at the team for making a Frankenstein Windows and wanted to kill the project before seeing the boot times.
So glad I upgraded to the 9060 XT 16GB for my 5600x AM4 system instead of RTX 5060 Ti. - will have lowest barriers to running this as a leaked image - my PC is PCIe gen 3, so would be heavily limited by the x8 on RTX 5060 series - $100 cheaper for Same FPS (though sacrificed DLSS / RT)
@@kael7953 As I stare at my data being sent to 200 ads agencies, a penguin 🐧 wearing a fedora and a neckbeard mask to hide its identity, walks in my SSD, it says “You should try Arch btw” and then hides inside a virtual machine Finally, my laptop boots up and I see that immediately, Windows has eaten 3 out of 12 gigs of ram I ponder to myself, did I forget to take my schizophrenia medicines today? After I have finally taken my meds, I see that the laptop is yet to actually boot And I consider deleting this comment cuz why am I even writing this..?
psp was so good,i had one, they tried with vita but well.. they should have jumped on the steam deck hype, but gave us a tablet with controller attached, sadly.
Microsoft should use this interface on the next Xbox home console. An Xbox console that functions as a full Windows PC but with a console interface on top would be INSANE.
I think that the next xbox will be a branded PC. But - Who will buy it? PC gamers? Nope. And xbx s/x is over 8 million behind xbox one at the same time in their life cycle. The brand is on life support in terms of hardware - xbox is now a 3rd party publishwr/dev now first & foremost.
No , just no. Current Xbox OS is already good with better interface and I don't want windows drivers and update shenanigans on my Xbox when I start my Xbox at 9:00 PM after a hard working day to play some games.
This is the next home console. Microsoft are not making boxes anymore, they want you to play on devices you already have, like an app on your tv or on these new handhelds.
All the games from your own xbox library which are marked "play anywhere" can be downloaded and played with the handheld as well. So, its not only remote play with what you can play games from your xbox library. There is 1000 games in the "play anywhere" list currently and the library is growing all the time.
@@nooriestianiskandar3981 like u would have time to play even half of the games from gamepass or from your library. I have 100 games "play anywhere" in my bought library plus hundreds games in gamepass, thats enough for handheld. I will have both console and handheld so no worries. Beside the "play anywhere" library will grow over time, its still new concept.
If this is just the native Windows kernel with a simple gaming dashboard, that's huge. If the OS becomes available for us to install on our own hardware, that WILL give a performance boost to native Windows gaming.
@@nex7053Every university understanding of the Patriot Act boils down to they are selling your data to government. This can mean things like free graduate level education in the case of Boulder or be a gateway to working in law enforcement like at Berkley.
yeah, i only use my PC for gaming. would be incredible to just have it run games and discord in the background and a web browser for youtube and that’s it.
@@AceAcumen It's been 6 years since its announcement and Hollow Knight fans are frothing out the mouth for any crumb of info on it, while this video is showing someone casually playing it like it's just out already.
2nd grade teacher here. that's a trapezoid-esque xbox button, not a rhombus. a square is a rhombus with 90 degree angles. a rhombus is a parallelogram with 4 equal sides. cheers, linus! lylab.
Absolutely wild how Linus saw the Xbox showcase, sprinted to the store, bought the new console, filmed a full review, edited it, rendered it, and uploaded it - all within five minutes of the event ending. Truly inspirational hustle 💪📦✨
Not in the market for this, but man, this was SUCH a good showcase video. Hats off Linus, you and your team did an excellent job with this one! Thanks for bringing all the comparisons, and for talking about the UI & Windows parts so much! I am SUPER curious to learn more about this "optimized" version of Windows. I wanna dig into it. I'm hoping it can be installed on other devices! (I'm sure, someone is going to get it working)
@@DonnyStanley A real "gaming" mode with more substantial system tweaks to reduce resource usage would certainly be nice. Then again, it would be nicer to make some of those "tweaks" more permanent. Windows loads a ton of crap "just in case", like connecting to Windows Domain Server...that I won't ever have.
I have never wanted to be a RUclipsr but I had to make a video about this thing and then I said, what the hell, I'll just make a channel. Being able to play almost every single platform on the most powerful chip to date is awesome. The controller handles kinda removes the need to buy a whole case with handles on them. Just get a screen protector and ready to go. I know it'll pricey but it is so powerful, can use it like a console on the TV, a monitor at a desk, and I believe an external GPU. It is a premium handheld there's still the base white model too. Exciting times for gaming!
I can't wait for the switch 2 comparison even though this is far superior that the switch 2. Also I'm calling it now, home consoles will die and handhelds will take over.
@@StreetTerrorist187 no way they’ll charge that much. the MSI claw 8+ costs that much and is way ahead of this thing, it’s not even close. I was hoping this ally would be cheaper.
I've always wondered why Microsoft doesn't just make the Xbox OS available to handheld OEMs. It's basically stripped down windows anyway. It should run fine on x86 hardware.
Microsoft HATES their customers with a visible passion. If you want MS to care about you at all then switch to Apple. They love Apples customers! Windows users can get fucked on the other hand
It would still need heavy tweaking because right now it's designed for exactly one, and I do mean one, hardware set. Unified video memory being used as system RAM and video RAM, a cut down cache in the CPU, etc.
because Windows isnt open source and its not just plug and play to just slap in 'Xbox OS' to this device, this is likely a mobile version of Windows 11
Isnt the xbox itself just a version of win11? Also, I wonder if the XBoX team tweaking the windows os outside of a gaming handheld (like making an xbox os) would violate the old antitrust agreements that separated them in the first place @@Freestyle80
Because it's optimized for a different workload and the os itself weights 100 GB because it's a cluster of multiple virtual machines. Windows 11 is also more expandable
Why i love this is a thing is it means devs will start adding lower specs to games to run on it to increase sales. This is important with nvidia trying to get gaming going the other way. It also means games like indiana jones and doom which force ray tracing may change that stance so they can run on this thing.
Doubtful… why do Xbox fans think having a handheld will make people all of a sudden want an Xbox? Most devs hate Xbox cause they do shit like this and expect them to support it. Xbox now has 3 consoles this gen that it requires devs to support? This will likely just push more developers to abandon Xbox all together, cause it is not worth the effort for such a tiny player base… especially one that does not buy games. Steam Deck is the biggest PC handheld and it only has 4-5m units sold in 4 years. This will be obsolete in less than a year… and will cost over $1000 with worse performance than a $399 PS5
Once Sony releases their handheld i expect it to kick off, having two heavy hitters with switch and PS handhelds int he market, its gonna change everything. Xbox, Nvidia, Steam, are not big enough for massive shifts in the industry
@desertwolfairsoft8367not seeing this as a massive step forward in the gaming world (specifically handheld) is crazy especially with Sony working on a legit handheld as well, this opens the door in a lot of ways.
@@andrewnitin It would be really cool to be able to run this as an operating system on any pc you built, would be great for building a single minded gaming machine
@@mcrrocks897 what they were saying is hopefully this doesnt snuff out steamOS's flame, before it can grow to actually be a competetor to windows for gaming
This forces both valve and Xbox to remain competitive with each other, which is good for us because we can just buy whichever one’s better within the generation.
I think SteamOS is fine. There's still a lot to be said for freedom of owning your device, and the efficiency of Linux. Even with the claims Microsoft makes about improvement, something tells me SteamOS is still better on average. But time will tell.
With Microsoft/Xbox basically overseeing this the customer support will definitely be a lot better. Microsofts customer service with their gaming consoles has always been pretty solid.
I think this was more of an Xbox sided thing with the help of Asus. I wouldn't even worry about it really. It's basically running stripped down windows for optimization.
I really wish they released this sooner. The whole reason I got a steam deck was because I didn’t want to mess with windows when on a handheld but I didn’t love having to rebuy my Xbox library
I’ve been thinking about getting a deck for the past 2 weeks or so. Glad I didn’t pull the trigger on one yet, as I also wanted my Xbox library on it. Huge
It would have been nice to show suspend/resume ONCE during this video, instead of just say it's improved. It's the biggest reason to invest in Steam OS handhelds instead.
I don’t need another handheld, but something about hearing 2:21 similar triggers to the Xbox One controller did make me kinda smile. Just really loved that controller as soon as I had one.
@Tyler-l1m just buy this handheld and since its kinda like a mobile pc handheld just pirate all the switch 2 games (so you dont have to buy both i assume your buying the switch 2 for its exclusives)
Never had an xbox product or used one (if we do ’t count the built in stuff in windows etc.) this looks like an actual product I would buy if I was looking for a handheald gaming device! Good showcase video linus media group! :D
And it will probably run better, smoother, have better sleep and much more stable frame times. I give it a year until microsoft starts forcing OneDrive or Copilot into these handhelds, if it's not there already. Especially because Microsoft recently talked about Copilot for Gaming or something like that lol
WOAH! Linus what are you doing to me. I wake and see this beaut. Wow. Now this is what I call competition. I’m probably gonna wait for a SteamDeck 2 cause I love Valve so much but this sures has been tempting. Thank you Linus and LTT for making this video. Also shoutout to the editors. Love the video, amazing animations
WOAH! Linus what are you doing to me. I wake and see this beaut. Wow. Now this is what I call competition. I’m probably gonna wait for a SteamDeck 2 cause I love Valve so much but this sures has been tempting. Thank you Linus and LTT for making this video.
@@Natedogg1994 So we are gonna get some sort of Xbox PSP? I'm the 2020's? Who would that be for? Since the switch came out and mobile phones got super powerful there's been no need for handhelds anymore. Who would buy this?
Different thing. They shelved their own dedicated hardware that allegedly would be more like the console OS on a handheld. In favour of prioritising hardware this route
@@dreamcastdazia4753 what are you talking about? Lots of people would. Exactly why people buy a switch. The same reason people would buy another PSP if it were to be made. Why wouldn’t people buy a portable Xbox or PS?
@@xeon39688custom nvidia processor = better performance per watt then any pc handheld allowing switch 2 to be thin it's not even close but go on enjoy your bulky handhelld
"Xbox is dead" shout the PlayStation users who forget that they literally have their hands in so many different tech areas. I absolutely love the Xbox team on the simple basis that they want more people to play video games, do it with their friends, and have an easier time doing it. Price point will always be a final line on whether any given person can buy something within reason, but the selling points are there.
Been holding out on all other handhelds for this exact type of device that actually has some pep behind it, high refresh rate and platform freedom. I love Xbox ergonomics too. defo getting one
Valve always was "afraid" of Microsoft ruining Windows gaming, and designed the Steam Machines, SteamOS, and further down the line the SteamDeck, to make sure that if the "Windows as a Service" Microsoft of not-until-too-long-ago decided to go Full Apple and limit software to be distributed only through their Store, that they still had a platform where Steam could still thrive. This somewhat unexpected development? I'm sure Valve is quite happy with it, specially if the third parties are welcoming Steam into their built-in Libraries.
the steamdeck and its support from valve will always be superior so they will never have anything to fear, Valve is known to repair Steamdecks that don't even have warranty anymore, Asus on the other hand........
Microsoft are actively promoting steam on it! So they’re not intending to close them off. Just how they’re putting their games on PS. They couldn’t beat them. So they’re joining them. And regardless, presumably you’d be able to dual boot this thing with SteamOS if you wanted. Best of both worlds
@@bbbbbbbb3158I think they are trying too hard to get 1080p 120hz.i don’t have the figure but valve 800p 90hz oled is a better mix for a handheld of this size while probably consuming the same amount of power.
Xbox Series X’s quick resume has been an absolute game changer to me as someone who plays a lot of indie games simultaneously in between multiplayer games with my friends. Being able to boot these games up instantly and even have it work with remote play on my phone when I’m away from home was so convenient for quick gaming sessions. If I can reliably remote play on this handheld and make use of my games in quick resume I’m absolutely sold.
To me, it has been a nightmare. I play online games, which require syncing and logging into. This means multiple errors as the console doesn't close the games...
We will probably have to wait for the next Xbox "console". The rumor is the next Xbox will be a PC/console hybrid running on windows. My guess is that this handheld is their first test drive of what this ecosystem could look like.
@@pirateregaler7709 Doubt it seeing as their model of play anywhere doesn't really fit that, also even if they do idc why type of hybrid they make it's not a pc, and should just give us a gaming windows suite. As I wouldnt touch another "console" with a 10 foot pole.
@GavinSantamaria sadly benchmarks show that even with tiny11 there is no benefit in terms of gaming performance. And even debloating base windows 11 achieves the same results without removing windows updates :( Thank you though
Yeah. Nintendo stole a march with that one, thankfully others picked up on it. With my PC, I no longer feel the need to invest in any other console unless its a handheld. Not even Sony will get me, I am content to wait for a port if I must.
both console makers will make at least one more premium home console, but will also produce handhelds as well. Idk how Sony plans to compete there if they don't include PC integration like Xbox is (as in, including Steam and Epic storefronts)
So the Xbox team pretty much shows just how bloated and shitty windows is for handhelds.... I'd love if the actual windows team cared about performance
Windows itself cares about compatibility, so your old software from the 90s still works today. I wouldn't be surprised for the Xbox and Windows teams to work together to make a dedicated OS for gamers much like Valve is doing.
@@Sonic6293 What do you mean, recent W11 update broke old direct x calls for tons of games that worked fine on W10... It's thanks to GOG that pushes and sells games pre-patched that they often even work now on W11.
they probably can't.....they have to ensure windows work for the billion configurations out there , so maximum compaitablity is the goal...vs handheld which are very limited number of devices focused on maximum performance and battery savings
I assume it’s if you leave your PC on and don’t update for weeks or months at a time. If you shut down your computer everyday there won’t be any intrusive updates
@@quatjohn4375 That would make sense, I shut my PC down frequently because I'm used to old hardware where leaving it running would cause a lot of damage
Same. The only thing that is similar to that is a notification popping up saying that my org requires me to restart sometime to install updates, and that is only on managed devices. probably not going to happen for most people using windows on their own pcs. Even with my machine, that I leave on, or hibernate when not in use, I don't get those messages. In fact, my current laptop is still stuck on 23h2.
It’s the Asus armoury crate button, but it’s upside down because it’s on the opposite side to the ROG Ally and they clearly just reused the same buttons for the prototype.
Having a pc without the pc stuff and being dedicated to gaming is what I’m excited for. I like playing on console because I turn it on and my games are all updated and ready to go instantly. No playing around with settings, no updates, no fluff. Just games.
Limiting eGPU usage to the high end model only is a big miss, in my opinion. Can't wait to see the optimizations for gaming slowly work their way into regular Windows builds.
windows isn't the only thing to blame, don't get me wrong the overhead is insane, 6gb to just 300mb when i used to run linux on my old crappy laptop was a HUGE difference and everything was better and snappier. but game devs are also the issue. they don't care about players with crap hardware, they expect everyone to have the top of the line, completely maxed out $25k builds. until game devs start optimizing their games, systems with less overhead will forever be able to squeeze out more performance even when needing to jump the hoop of a compatibility layer. also about game optimization being horrible, these days games have 10 programmers that don't give a crap, 100 artists more busy on making the game "inclusive" rather than fun and cool to look at. there's a reason people still play older games, they where well made. they had innovative systems, they revolutionized their times. something the current game market lacks. many old games where made with just two or three programmers, a few artists, a horrible deadline, and a focus on making something that can run even on grandma's computer. devs now just want their crap to run on their testing computers (which are typically top of the line rigs) and push out games. i mean c'mon, how many game releases need a ton of day 1 patches and bug fixes? don't get me wrong that used to happen too but what happened to oh idk, testing your game before launch lol. it feels like for devs these days it's unheard of. not to mention this push to Unreal 5 has made the market worse in terms of overly saturated good looking, bad peforming, unfun games. and before anyone attacks me, i myself am a programmer. i've been programming since 2017. i did game hacking most of it since i started off on the xbox 360 when i did my first RGH. as of late my only project related to game programming is a modding framework for an old version of minecraft windows 10 edition/bedrock, and a fully custom fork of cryengine a friend is using for their game. the game is fun to play in its current stage where it is incomplete and i am hoping all the best for his game. sorry if my english is bad anywhere, it is not my primary language. i mostly speak spanish.
@@uptightsuperlabs And that's why the existence of something like the Switch/Switch 2 is extremely beneficial to gaming, since it gives devs and companies actual financial incentive to pull absolute magic just to put their games there, making them actually give a shit about optimization and fun. The Switch had multiple "impossible" tier port just because of this alone, and the Switch 2 literally starts of with an "impossible" port.
I mean windows still seems to be there, you can just skip it if you don't wanna use it, but by the looks and sounds of it you'll be able to boot out of the Xbox UI and do whatever you might need to do in a traditional windows environment.
The Logitech G Cloud existed already. No windows and all that stuff you said. The only thing was having to stream from the cloud or stream from a console.
1:00 does this new Xbox "XOS", or whatever we're calling it, perform on par with SteamOS?? And more importantly, will they be making a version of it available to download for people to try, separate from this handheld? I could see myself having a separate "gaming" Windows install with this UI if the performance is actually improved over Win11. Right now SteamOS still has a big advantage by being available separately, installable alongside Windows, while getting an actual performance boost in many games. I'd like to see Microsoft so something similar with their own platform.
i’m sure microsoft knows they have to do something because the writing is on the wall that valve will have all gaming os market within 5 years from now- if not less
@@ChipperMcManusno they won’t I hate steamos and Linux for that matter. All the games I wanna play have kernel level anti cheat and it simply does not work on Linux
@@anthonymowl5758 true and while i don’t entirely disagree i do think that if it were to go unchecked eventually you could even see kernel anti cheat go away because at some point of market share loss it’ll actually become a hindrance on game growth. obviously all speculation tho
@@anthonymowl5758right. That's why I think this could be so good. If it's on par with steam os, then it would probably provide the performance of Steam OS, but the stability and compatibility of Windows. I think Microsoft would be silly not to make an "XOS" or something for the PC Gaming crowd. Steam OS has proven that people are interested in it conceptually.
Well, connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse if it can run basic productivity tools, it will likely replace a notebook/desktop with portable gaming advantages.
"How do we optimize our handheld device?"
"What if we don't run 99% of the Window's features?"
"Brilliant!"
Me when I realize windows wasn’t made for gaming
@@stiffisharc perfect comment. 🤣👌
wow sounds like you helped code it.
so how easy was it?
When I hear this, I envision the cartoon meme of the guy getting tossed out of the office window lol
"features"
finally the xbox 180 handheld I saw leaked in 2009 and even in arcade and elite variants!
Sorry but a french guy already do the joke and build an real Xbox 360 portable
@@xmoncocox the french don't exist. don't gaslight me.
@@xmoncocox french? damn
Remember when someone made a photoshopped portable gamecube in the shape of a gameboy advanced SP? Someone actually made one as well not that long ago.
This device is very dangerous. It seems like Microsoft wants to test market reactions to a device called "Xbox" that can't run any Xbox games. According to leaks, they have already halted work on a handheld with a native Xbox OS. If this "Xbox Ally" succeeds, they may release the next Xbox console with Windows, causing us to lose all the games we've purchased over the last 15 years. My Xbox library contains 932 games (393 owned), yet only 40 are playable on PC and most don’t even sync my save data.
The optimized Windows announcement is arguably MUCH bigger than the handheld itself. Windows on Handhelds has been a terrible experience since... always. Getting a version that kills bloat and actually considers the controls a user has available (NOT relying solely on a KB/M) might have just saved Windows in this segment.
You think they'll actually do that...? lol
I'm hoping we'll be able to install this version of Windows on the Steam Deck. No more Anti-cheat issues or compatibility problems, it should "just work". A man can dream.
Absolutely. The only issue with this is that the optimizations made for this install are likely tailor-made to the hardware, meaning that exact ISO is not 100% guaranteed to work 1:1 or run properly with other existing handhelds on the market right now. Ideally they'd have made the optimizations with other mobile hardware configurations in mind... But let's not forget this is Microsoft. Always willing to be pleasantly surprised, much less willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Guess we'll just need to wait and see when they either make the OS available, or someone manages to fork it onto other hardware.
@@neoKushan100% I don't like steamos for this exact reason
Sadly you remember they tried that with windows 8? Many people didn't like it 😢
“No ones going to buy it, it’ll be too expensive.”
*Sells out*
thats a low-effort take. When people say "no one", they're impying the general public. If they want to sell it to enthusiasts only, then fine, it will sell as expected, but niche products normally struggle when they depend on a certain demographic to succeed.
@@HoroJoga It is "Xbox" though. That label alone may help it sell more. Maybe...
@@jonrios1389 I'm just interested to see if they're going to subsidized it or not.
Apparently Asus recently raised the price of the Ally X up to $900 recently so could really see it going either way.
@@jakobstocker5697 there is no other way it’s going to be expensive and that’s totally fine start saving now 50-100 bucks here and there so by the time it launches snag one it’s easy to do people like to blow hundreds and thousands of dollars a year on stupid things that bring them joy for about 12 minutes and buy fast food all year adding up to thousands a year.
Just like the switch 2 🤣
Another proof that competition is really important to push those huge companies to rethink being complacent and giving the customers minimal improvements.
evidencee, yes... proff. no i'd seeoner take it as evidence that microsoft has a ton of money to dump into r&d.
I don't like how handhelds are so big now days how yhe fuck is this supposed to be a handheld you can't hold this you can't out it in a pocket this is a handheld for a 40 year old man who doenst go out with a game
@@Pat12379 I dunno, I think its fine. I look at it like the Nintendo Switch. Its really not aimed at being a playground handheld like the original gameboy(s) were positioned, its more or less meant to be used in a home. The weight/ergonomics matter more imo. I find the Switch is ok to hold but the angle of the joycons dont feel as good over time in the hands.
@@Yarumasii just hate how every generation the handhelds are getting bigger and bigger by the ps7 the handhelds will be the size if a small tv
@@Pat12379 Oh absolutely. I do love having a nice big screen, especially for legibility's sake in the modern era with games being so detailed (e.g. having to squint to see fine detail on a 5~7 inch screen), but at the same time, if the system isn't perfectly balanced in the hand/too heavy/etc it is an instant killer of interest for many.
Microsoft realizing they better fix gaming performance across windows and handhelds before people start installing steam os on their desktops🤣 I fucking love you valve
@@Catalyst512 bringus will do one cursed steamos install on this device to shit on microsoft even more
This is LTT's whole shtick! Competition can be good for the consumers!
I'm definitely not upgrading to Windows 11 come October.
Still won't stop me, unless they fix their shit with Windows "12."
An OS should not be 60GB and run as gracefully as a brick.
@@Madwonk I just hate how competition is almost necessary for consumers to actually see innovation from companies, and it’s never about keeping us happy… it’s about keeping their numbers up.
Man SteamOs did a number on Microsoft
Not enough of a number. Why is my Xbox library not being able to be accessed from this handheld natively?
@@GooseDaPlaymaker it will be though, lol. It's a PC like anything else
@@GooseDaPlaymaker Is that not the point of their whole play anywhere marketing guff?
@@GooseDaPlaymakerI don't think it's like the half assed approach by Sony and more like an Ally with some great improvements
@@xkernalsandersx you do know sony is actually working on a new handheld not a portal and thats awesome for everyone. im a pc player and enjoy all three console makers its great to have competition
This could be a lot but I would like 3 simple things from this Handheld.
1- Quick Resume
2- Way more PlayAnywhere titles (from older games too ex: OG Xbox, 360, One and Series)
3- Free online play just like on Steam
@@cdrick94 you're asking a lot now
This seems like it’s going to be considered a PC not an Xbox console. I think it will play your PC Xbox games which have free online or you can play your Steam library on it.
But I hope they expand Xbox play anywhere and bring Quick resume to PC
@@nahtanoj92 I don’t think it’s asking a lot but the question is will they do it. Just like I don’t think it would be a lot for Steam to increase compatibility with older games on Windows
The quick resume is pretty much already on Windows just not as efficient as it could be
Play Anywhere is already a program they just need to hopefully expand upon it
And free online play is already on their PC titles to my knowledge. At least I’ve never paid to play any Xbox titles online on PC
It already has free online play, you do not need to pay a subscription fee to play Xbox PC games online (or Steam, Epic, etc. games) which is what this thing runs.
This is more just a better rog ally tbh I say this as a person who loves access so I think that you won't have to pay for online play but you will get game streaming if you have game pass so if you like streaming games do what you wanna
How long until someone dumps the iso and we get a true “Windows 11 Gamer Edition” that starts floating around
@@TechnologyNToys literally what I’m waiting on. That’s gone happen within the first month fs seeing as it’s “just windows”. I don’t think it will do better than steam OS with efficiency but maybe it will get sleep wake function
Time to put that in my linux virtual machine
just use steamos smh
@@JTCFnot everyone wants to use Steam OS SMDH
@@JTCFwhat's the benefit of running a steamos vm for gaming, when your host is already on linux? 😅
10:50 this feels like a full circle moment when you remember that the original Xbox ran an ultra stripped down version of windows.
Current gen Xboxs run some version of windows as well if I remember correctly.
Right very cool
Yeah current xbox run a type of windows that isnt the same
No it didn't, this is a myth. It was a custom OS that was built from the ground up for the console. It had some aspects of Windows, like its own flavour of Direct3D, but it was NOT based on Windows. Microsoft have even confirmed this.
@@WhitePointerGaming have you seen the Xbox documentary. It states verbatim they "stole the source code one night from a server and stipped it down", so much so that Bill Gates was beyond mad at the team for making a Frankenstein Windows and wanted to kill the project before seeing the boot times.
The video was so fast, my windows laptop didn’t even boot yet
Gotta send your data to 200 ads agencies first, be patient!
Lol
So glad I upgraded to the 9060 XT 16GB for my 5600x AM4 system instead of RTX 5060 Ti.
- will have lowest barriers to running this as a leaked image
- my PC is PCIe gen 3, so would be heavily limited by the x8 on RTX 5060 series
- $100 cheaper for Same FPS (though sacrificed DLSS / RT)
@@kael7953
As I stare at my data being sent to 200 ads agencies, a penguin 🐧 wearing a fedora and a neckbeard mask to hide its identity, walks in my SSD, it says “You should try Arch btw” and then hides inside a virtual machine
Finally, my laptop boots up and I see that immediately, Windows has eaten 3 out of 12 gigs of ram
I ponder to myself, did I forget to take my schizophrenia medicines today?
After I have finally taken my meds, I see that the laptop is yet to actually boot
And I consider deleting this comment cuz why am I even writing this..?
@@nathanbrown492 Nice! Looks like AMD was able to keep the prices actually at MSRP… for now!
If this was OLED, it would be a monster of a handheld device.
It is a Monster. You just want less Battery Life & Oled is Overrated.
Also with a monster price.
@@JayceeGenocide people who call oled overrated simple don't have one. lol
@@wanshurst2416 yep hahaha
@@tristanward9937 Oled is not that expensive
They do say that Linus comes first. He was in fact really fast with this video!
Just 3 minutes faster than Austin Evans
Linus: as you can see, I was the first to arrive (in James May’s voice)
@@mniakan754 Sorry, I can only hear that it Jeremy Clarkson's voice. Besides, captain slow... first?
@@originalname9999there were a few times James arrived first and it was the condom joke he madeon grand tour
@@originalname9999 no way. even after reading the 'in James May's voice' my brain still read it in clarkson's voice 😅
That is what I actually was hoping for when Sony announced the portal
Agreed, people were saying this is a game changer lmfao yes but you need a console near by to stream, talk about tethered
@@gloomyvale3671 well not this one, the Xbox one, but for the Sony one unfortunately yes
@@gloomyvale3671 basically what WiiU was
psp was so good,i had one, they tried with vita but well.. they should have jumped on the steam deck hype, but gave us a tablet with controller attached, sadly.
Problem is S0NY is already working on portal 2 to just be better than it's competitor's
Microsoft should use this interface on the next Xbox home console. An Xbox console that functions as a full Windows PC but with a console interface on top would be INSANE.
I think that the next xbox will be a branded PC. But - Who will buy it? PC gamers? Nope. And xbx s/x is over 8 million behind xbox one at the same time in their life cycle. The brand is on life support in terms of hardware - xbox is now a 3rd party publishwr/dev now first & foremost.
No , just no.
Current Xbox OS is already good with better interface and I don't want windows drivers and update shenanigans on my Xbox when I start my Xbox at 9:00 PM after a hard working day to play some games.
Piracy would be too easy for them to make any profit
@@Sidharth_V_Jain you can already rent xbox games from the library for free.
This is the next home console.
Microsoft are not making boxes anymore, they want you to play on devices you already have, like an app on your tv or on these new handhelds.
All the games from your own xbox library which are marked "play anywhere" can be downloaded and played with the handheld as well. So, its not only remote play with what you can play games from your xbox library.
There is 1000 games in the "play anywhere" list currently and the library is growing all the time.
Yeeeyyy 1000 games play anywhere ,while there's 13.427 games on Xbox library.
@@nooriestianiskandar3981 like u would have time to play even half of the games from gamepass or from your library. I have 100 games "play anywhere" in my bought library plus hundreds games in gamepass, thats enough for handheld. I will have both console and handheld so no worries. Beside the "play anywhere" library will grow over time, its still new concept.
If this is just the native Windows kernel with a simple gaming dashboard, that's huge. If the OS becomes available for us to install on our own hardware, that WILL give a performance boost to native Windows gaming.
I've already noticed asus bloatware and microsoft spyware in the video
@@apicalshark678 Lol, what Microsoft spyware?
@@Aarsal_SoulBlazerz Windows
@@nex7053Every university understanding of the Patriot Act boils down to they are selling your data to government. This can mean things like free graduate level education in the case of Boulder or be a gateway to working in law enforcement like at Berkley.
yeah, i only use my PC for gaming. would be incredible to just have it run games and discord in the background and a web browser for youtube and that’s it.
0:37 Diabolical of them to put Silksong in this ad.
@@VictorHuff Why? Context?
@@AceAcumen It's been 6 years since its announcement and Hollow Knight fans are frothing out the mouth for any crumb of info on it, while this video is showing someone casually playing it like it's just out already.
@@VictorHuffWe got new info and footage. Leth also clarified it is coming before holiday 2025
@@TMTGD so nice to see the intersection of people watching LTT and Lethamyr! Proud to be a part of that intersection! :D
@@gokalpcetin2769I have no idea who lethamyr is lmao. I was referring to Matthew Griffin (Leth), the marketer and publisher for Silksong
The timing.. wow
he scheduled the video for after the handheld was revealed
Linux always drops a jewel at the random right time, when we're bored doing nothing on a hot swamp Sunday 🥵
That’s an embargo 😅
Fastest in the west
One’s made for everyone and the other is made for hardcore gamers. There’s room for both in the spotlight.
2nd grade teacher here. that's a trapezoid-esque xbox button, not a rhombus. a square is a rhombus with 90 degree angles. a rhombus is a parallelogram with 4 equal sides. cheers, linus! lylab.
Haha, I actually paused the video to look for a comment like this. It's good for the comment interaction algorithm to make little mistakes. xD
The first Xbox to not be a box
The x(insert shape here)
@@The_short_king-f1s the xPad
It's two boxes which equals an rectangle 😅
😂😂😂 But i thought to MS, everything is an Xbox??? 🤦🏽♂️
I mean, if you think about it, anything can be a box. Aren’t we all in a box? What is a box? Where is the box? Why is a box?
9:34 silk...song THE SILKSONG IS REAL
Got our priorities straight, mate !
IM SKRONGINGGGGG 😩
how many tomorrows away is delt- I mean silksong again?
Coming "this year"!
🤡
Absolutely wild how Linus saw the Xbox showcase, sprinted to the store, bought the new console, filmed a full review, edited it, rendered it, and uploaded it - all within five minutes of the event ending. Truly inspirational hustle 💪📦✨
😅 i know youre kidding but if you didnt see last wan show, my guess he was already there last saturday
Rog says june 6th
Dude he had this live 10 minutes into the showcase. Went up the second Phil revealed the device.
@@MortenJohnsenSolberg I'll believe it when I see it...
ikr, my man is on the grind
Bro I like that. For me the handles are important. I want to feel comfortable playing and they did that!!
...but can it run SteamOS?
edit: ok i get it it was just a question not to be answered (rhetorical question)
yes. Its not locked to windows.
@@TeraByte38 yeah this is really what everyone wants
If not, bazzite surely does, since it runs on almost any hardware. Expect "copilot for gaming" on this thing sooner or later lol
@@Instantur im not askinf if it can run other oses, im asking if it can run steamos specifically (and with full hardware support)
@@crispy4798
Not everyone… running GamePass from Steam OS is a fking pain
Damn mid conference right after it was shown
I assume that's when the embargo was lifted.
“Did they reveal it?”
“Alright, Post It! Go Go Go!!”
Companies tend to HELP make make that happen. They usually even tell them what's going to be in the presentation.
Mid conference indeed.
Every conference is mid to you people.
Not in the market for this, but man, this was SUCH a good showcase video. Hats off Linus, you and your team did an excellent job with this one! Thanks for bringing all the comparisons, and for talking about the UI & Windows parts so much!
I am SUPER curious to learn more about this "optimized" version of Windows. I wanna dig into it. I'm hoping it can be installed on other devices! (I'm sure, someone is going to get it working)
Hopefully, it is just a toggle you can turn on in any install of Windows when they finally bring it to the main update branch.
@@DonnyStanleyThis honestly would bring so much good will to xbox and windows if they do this.
@@DonnyStanley A real "gaming" mode with more substantial system tweaks to reduce resource usage would certainly be nice. Then again, it would be nicer to make some of those "tweaks" more permanent. Windows loads a ton of crap "just in case", like connecting to Windows Domain Server...that I won't ever have.
That showcase was ass 😂 let’s be real
I have never wanted to be a RUclipsr but I had to make a video about this thing and then I said, what the hell, I'll just make a channel.
Being able to play almost every single platform on the most powerful chip to date is awesome. The controller handles kinda removes the need to buy a whole case with handles on them. Just get a screen protector and ready to go.
I know it'll pricey but it is so powerful, can use it like a console on the TV, a monitor at a desk, and I believe an external GPU. It is a premium handheld there's still the base white model too. Exciting times for gaming!
1:20 So it's just a Windows handheld but actually usable?
Brilliant comment 😂
Nothing beats the steam os
@@admiralcasperr you just never use any windows gaming don't u?
want to comment the same thing. so it's just pc handheld after all.
@2810Mad it can beat it, in compatability with games, and that's a heavy decision maker. If it's really optimized for handhelds, it could be great
I love SteamOS/linux, but its also great news that windows did not back off and came to amp up the competition
Perhaps in the future it will be possible to have access to Steam and Xbox PC games, Gog, etc. on a single handheld like this.
Yes Linus we see the fit
Holding up the console for the whole video made this feel like a shamwow commercial more than an unbiased preview
As a steam deck user and fan I’m excited to see what valve brings with the next steam deck.
Wonder if they'll continue producing those Decks or pivot back towards software with improving general compatibility of SteamOS
Can the Xbox Ally X also be used as a normal Windows PC? Attach a screen, run normal Windows software etc.?
@@B33t_R007 that's how they're making it sound. It's kinda like a steam deck, where it has a desktop mode that lets you do normal PC stuff
@@B33t_R007 Yeah, the Xbox interface is kind of like Steam OS's Game mode, so if you need to you can absolutely switch to proper Desktop mode
@@B33t_R007 yes! You just buy a dock and plug it into your screen and you have a pc. You can also attach a keyboard and mouse:-)
Can't wait for the comparison to Steam OS/other Linux distros!
I can't wait for the switch 2 comparison even though this is far superior that the switch 2.
Also I'm calling it now, home consoles will die and handhelds will take over.
seeing that this thing is going to be like 800 dollars or 999..
@@Onepieceistheworstanime they’ll only take over once Sony gets over their handheld avoidance.
@@Plant-Based-Gainsthey really only have to modify the ps portal
@@StreetTerrorist187 no way they’ll charge that much. the MSI claw 8+ costs that much and is way ahead of this thing, it’s not even close. I was hoping this ally would be cheaper.
I've always wondered why Microsoft doesn't just make the Xbox OS available to handheld OEMs. It's basically stripped down windows anyway. It should run fine on x86 hardware.
Microsoft HATES their customers with a visible passion. If you want MS to care about you at all then switch to Apple. They love Apples customers! Windows users can get fucked on the other hand
It would still need heavy tweaking because right now it's designed for exactly one, and I do mean one, hardware set. Unified video memory being used as system RAM and video RAM, a cut down cache in the CPU, etc.
because Windows isnt open source and its not just plug and play to just slap in 'Xbox OS' to this device, this is likely a mobile version of Windows 11
Isnt the xbox itself just a version of win11? Also, I wonder if the XBoX team tweaking the windows os outside of a gaming handheld (like making an xbox os) would violate the old antitrust agreements that separated them in the first place @@Freestyle80
Because it's optimized for a different workload and the os itself weights 100 GB because it's a cluster of multiple virtual machines. Windows 11 is also more expandable
Already saving up for this. Ive been wanting a handheld for a while now. I cant wait
Why i love this is a thing is it means devs will start adding lower specs to games to run on it to increase sales. This is important with nvidia trying to get gaming going the other way. It also means games like indiana jones and doom which force ray tracing may change that stance so they can run on this thing.
Let's hope the release of Stellar Blade PC will kick their arse in gear. (Apparently it's so optimised, GTX 10xx can play it)
@@vherostar they already do to run on the current rog and steam deck. Also the series s. Games scale very well these days.
Doubtful… why do Xbox fans think having a handheld will make people all of a sudden want an Xbox? Most devs hate Xbox cause they do shit like this and expect them to support it. Xbox now has 3 consoles this gen that it requires devs to support? This will likely just push more developers to abandon Xbox all together, cause it is not worth the effort for such a tiny player base… especially one that does not buy games. Steam Deck is the biggest PC handheld and it only has 4-5m units sold in 4 years. This will be obsolete in less than a year… and will cost over $1000 with worse performance than a $399 PS5
@@PrograError I tried the demo on my GPD Win 4 it can run at a stable 60 its honestly kinda impressive.
Once Sony releases their handheld i expect it to kick off, having two heavy hitters with switch and PS handhelds int he market, its gonna change everything. Xbox, Nvidia, Steam, are not big enough for massive shifts in the industry
Bro got access to silksong before anyone
I LOVE when stuff Genuinely pushes & motivates others to Evolve & Adapt in an organic & beneficial for the customer kind of way. This is great to see
The good side of capitalism
It's called capitalism yes
@@benmcreynolds8581 Are you serious? He literally said it’s on par with the original steam deck…. What evolution are you reffering too?
@desertwolfairsoft8367not seeing this as a massive step forward in the gaming world (specifically handheld) is crazy especially with Sony working on a legit handheld as well, this opens the door in a lot of ways.
Wow, its only taken them this long to realize that their greatest connection could also be their greatest strength. . .
I really hope these optimisations make it to regular PC gaming as well... 🤞
@@andrewnitin It would be really cool to be able to run this as an operating system on any pc you built, would be great for building a single minded gaming machine
He stated near the end of the vid that the Xbox guys have been given the power to clean up gaming performance on windows.
Ah least to regular ROG Ally 😅
HTPC usage would be SWEET honestly
@@jonathanthomas2171you can expect to see this os floating around after launch
let's hope that this doesn't destroy the competition of SteamOS which was finally starting to gain some ground.
Competition is good for the consumer! We just get better, cheaper products as the companies compete!
@@mcrrocks897 what they were saying is hopefully this doesnt snuff out steamOS's flame, before it can grow to actually be a competetor to windows for gaming
This forces both valve and Xbox to remain competitive with each other, which is good for us because we can just buy whichever one’s better within the generation.
It's like twice the price for one.
I think SteamOS is fine. There's still a lot to be said for freedom of owning your device, and the efficiency of Linux. Even with the claims Microsoft makes about improvement, something tells me SteamOS is still better on average. But time will tell.
My main concern is Asus; their after-sales service is so bad that even famous RUclipsrs cannot get their laptops fixed. What about us common folks?
Watch Gamers Nexus Video about the ROG Ally and no will never ever in your live buy any product from ASUS.
Nah the main concern is this comes from microsoft to begin with.
I bet xbox would handle the after-sales as this is an XBOX branded product, engineered by the xbox team.
With Microsoft/Xbox basically overseeing this the customer support will definitely be a lot better. Microsofts customer service with their gaming consoles has always been pretty solid.
I think this was more of an Xbox sided thing with the help of Asus. I wouldn't even worry about it really. It's basically running stripped down windows for optimization.
It's been a while I haven't watched LTT. I don't think I learned too much here.
11:26 I thought it was going to hurt as much as this segue to our sponsor.
Thought I can't be the only one
Me too.
🤣 ah much too late
I really wish they released this sooner. The whole reason I got a steam deck was because I didn’t want to mess with windows when on a handheld but I didn’t love having to rebuy my Xbox library
I just bought a steam deck instead of the switch 2 for the same reason 😭
I’ve been thinking about getting a deck for the past 2 weeks or so. Glad I didn’t pull the trigger on one yet, as I also wanted my Xbox library on it. Huge
@@FracturedGoblin bruh I was thinking getting a deck too till I literally seen this video lol
@@Jay2Trim5i bought a console thats been on the market for HOW LONG?
GFN works great on the steam deck especially when connecting game pass
It would have been nice to show suspend/resume ONCE during this video, instead of just say it's improved. It's the biggest reason to invest in Steam OS handhelds instead.
improved still doesnt mean fixed
Fair point, but this is more of an announcement overview rather than a review since the item won’t be out for a few months
@@Tajjoku it is windows i am sure the future will be a day 1 update and day 2 update or installing anything else will break it.
Can the next video be called “Linus Flex Tips” where you just show off the most expensive stuff you guys have?
I don’t need another handheld, but something about hearing 2:21 similar triggers to the Xbox One controller did make me kinda smile. Just really loved that controller as soon as I had one.
Screw deck 2. I’m getting this and switch 2
@@Tyler-l1m 🤣😂
@Tyler-l1m just buy this handheld and since its kinda like a mobile pc handheld just pirate all the switch 2 games (so you dont have to buy both i assume your buying the switch 2 for its exclusives)
Never had an xbox product or used one (if we do ’t count the built in stuff in windows etc.) this looks like an actual product I would buy if I was looking for a handheald gaming device! Good showcase video linus media group! :D
Yeah same, generally not interested in handhelds but this looks cool.
Can't wait to see someone putting SteamOS on it
oh I know a guy who would LOVE to put steamos on it
And it will probably run better, smoother, have better sleep and much more stable frame times. I give it a year until microsoft starts forcing OneDrive or Copilot into these handhelds, if it's not there already. Especially because Microsoft recently talked about Copilot for Gaming or something like that lol
I already put on my ally, steamos makes games run so much better compared to bloated windows
@tarang3895 Is it Bringle Man?
@@azenyrpessimistic much?
WOAH! Linus what are you doing to me. I wake and see this beaut. Wow. Now this is what I call competition.
I’m probably gonna wait for a SteamDeck 2 cause I love Valve so much but this sures has been tempting.
Thank you Linus and LTT for making this video.
Also shoutout to the editors. Love the video, amazing animations
This is what I have been hoping to have, since the first ally. This is solid partnership.
7:47 you know what this a win, developers will finally optimize their fucking games.
Sooo, essentially the Series S & X approach, but now they both have their compatible handhelds.
And optionally run full windows. So you can turn your handheld "xbox" into an epic games or steam handheld as well
WOAH! Linus what are you doing to me. I wake and see this beaut. Wow. Now this is what I call competition.
I’m probably gonna wait for a SteamDeck 2 cause I love Valve so much but this sures has been tempting.
Thank you Linus and LTT for making this video.
0:46 I CALLED IT!!!! It just made too much sense for them to make an Xbox mode
Xbox mode
I'm shocked that nobody is trying to copy the valve trackpads, they are such a game changer
They are really that good?
Maybe its patented. Copying it could land those who do in trouble.
@@Ment0Cat yeah, good haptics and control scheme and is a life saver when to comes playing games designed for mouse
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@@Nero7441not in China
Dude there were rumors that this damn thing was cancelled like a week ago and they drop... this? Wild.
No, the dedicated Xbox handheld console was canceled - that was a different project, a true console not a PC.
The dedicated xbox handheld was delayed. Not canceled. This is the xbox/asus handheld, which is not delayed.
@@Natedogg1994 So we are gonna get some sort of Xbox PSP? I'm the 2020's? Who would that be for? Since the switch came out and mobile phones got super powerful there's been no need for handhelds anymore. Who would buy this?
Different thing. They shelved their own dedicated hardware that allegedly would be more like the console OS on a handheld. In favour of prioritising hardware this route
@@dreamcastdazia4753 what are you talking about? Lots of people would. Exactly why people buy a switch. The same reason people would buy another PSP if it were to be made. Why wouldn’t people buy a portable Xbox or PS?
"I'm also feeling another kind of energy..... The energy to tell you... About our sponsor"!!! 😂
Other youtubers: SWITCH 2
Linus:XBOX HANDHELD
@@hannibalya short circuit took the switch 2 review this time
Switch 2 sucks
@@xeon39688it dominates the minuscule PC handheld market. And this POS ain't changing that.
@@xeon39688now say it without crying
@@xeon39688custom nvidia processor = better performance per watt then any pc handheld allowing switch 2 to be thin it's not even close but go on enjoy your bulky handhelld
All I got from this video: At least I know silksong is finally confirmed.
The amount of silksong shoutouts was absolutely insane
Silksong is confirmed since a long time
@@KAMiKAZOWa release range confirmed. It’s been a meme atp with the delays
0:11 Has Linus's nostrils always looked like that, or is this my first time noticing it?
Idk I just noticed too
🤣 To much Movie Make-up😉
I thought his nose looked bigger than normal
The one supposedly to come out in 2027 is supposed to be able to run steamos
I think he might have a deviated septum
"Xbox is dead" shout the PlayStation users who forget that they literally have their hands in so many different tech areas.
I absolutely love the Xbox team on the simple basis that they want more people to play video games, do it with their friends, and have an easier time doing it.
Price point will always be a final line on whether any given person can buy something within reason, but the selling points are there.
i went to my landing page, video out like 30 seconds, what a perfect timing
Same thing happend to me lol
2:39 That's a trapezoid, Linus.
I can't wait for these Windows efficiency improvements to be available for my desktop.
Micro$oft: HELL NO
I’m really looking forward to seeing how well this thing performs
Hi Mr realyea
Been holding out on all other handhelds for this exact type of device that actually has some pep behind it, high refresh rate and platform freedom. I love Xbox ergonomics too. defo getting one
As long as Steam works on it, I'd say Valve has nothing to fear. Their service always was and still is superior
Valve always was "afraid" of Microsoft ruining Windows gaming, and designed the Steam Machines, SteamOS, and further down the line the SteamDeck, to make sure that if the "Windows as a Service" Microsoft of not-until-too-long-ago decided to go Full Apple and limit software to be distributed only through their Store, that they still had a platform where Steam could still thrive.
This somewhat unexpected development? I'm sure Valve is quite happy with it, specially if the third parties are welcoming Steam into their built-in Libraries.
the steamdeck and its support from valve will always be superior so they will never have anything to fear, Valve is known to repair Steamdecks that don't even have warranty anymore, Asus on the other hand........
There's always why, its just inferior. If you want the best Steam experience, you wont beat a native Steam Machine, so just buy one of those instead.
Microsoft are actively promoting steam on it! So they’re not intending to close them off. Just how they’re putting their games on PS. They couldn’t beat them. So they’re joining them. And regardless, presumably you’d be able to dual boot this thing with SteamOS if you wanted. Best of both worlds
Steam works on it and your Steam library shows up along with your Xbox games library so you can launch games across both stores from one place.
Wow... i want it on my PC! Imagine picking your login user, one goes to regular windows and the other takes you to a console like experience, so cool
That’s the eventual plan
honestly just get steamOS at that point tbh
Not putting an oled screen is a huge miss. Still don’t know why valve is the only one doing it
@@sentryion3106 OLED needs more power, so it drains the battery, same problem with VR headsets.
@@bbbbbbbb3158I think they are trying too hard to get 1080p 120hz.i don’t have the figure but valve 800p 90hz oled is a better mix for a handheld of this size while probably consuming the same amount of power.
Burn-in is still a think.
@@bbbbbbbb3158 how do oleds use more power when individual pixels are shut off for black colors and contrast?
It’s because OLEDs are expensive to get VRR on
TLDR - basically a normal Asus Rog Ally with a xbox button that boots Windows in safe mode + xbox big screen mode.
Xbox Series X’s quick resume has been an absolute game changer to me as someone who plays a lot of indie games simultaneously in between multiplayer games with my friends.
Being able to boot these games up instantly and even have it work with remote play on my phone when I’m away from home was so convenient for quick gaming sessions.
If I can reliably remote play on this handheld and make use of my games in quick resume I’m absolutely sold.
To me, it has been a nightmare. I play online games, which require syncing and logging into. This means multiple errors as the console doesn't close the games...
@@Hasediel it was meant for single-player games? just remove the online games from quick resume
I remember when they first announced it. I would say "I don't think I'm gonna use this feature" but now I have like 4 games on it lmao.
😂😂 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@DBR130 it’s just annoying to have to remove games from the quick resume group. I wish I could just turn it off.
1:23 cool now... you know.. just give us a pc version of windows like this for gaming...WHY THE HELL HAVENT WE
If they dont do it someone will do it, shouldnt be that hard
We will probably have to wait for the next Xbox "console". The rumor is the next Xbox will be a PC/console hybrid running on windows. My guess is that this handheld is their first test drive of what this ecosystem could look like.
@@pirateregaler7709 Doubt it seeing as their model of play anywhere doesn't really fit that, also even if they do idc why type of hybrid they make it's not a pc, and should just give us a gaming windows suite. As I wouldnt touch another "console" with a 10 foot pole.
@@ZecrOfficial if you’re looking for a substitute until we do get something like this tiny 11 is pretty good
@GavinSantamaria sadly benchmarks show that even with tiny11 there is no benefit in terms of gaming performance. And even debloating base windows 11 achieves the same results without removing windows updates :( Thank you though
This has me feeling that all consoles from now on will be handled that can be docked one way or another
Sony is working on a new PSP, definitely seems likely
If they will do that, then they won't be able to create a handheld that's as powerful as the current gen consoles
Yeah. Nintendo stole a march with that one, thankfully others picked up on it. With my PC, I no longer feel the need to invest in any other console unless its a handheld. Not even Sony will get me, I am content to wait for a port if I must.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks PC+Nintendo has been my goto for the past couple of console gens honestly.
both console makers will make at least one more premium home console, but will also produce handhelds as well. Idk how Sony plans to compete there if they don't include PC integration like Xbox is (as in, including Steam and Epic storefronts)
Man if this was OLED it would be a monster of a hand held.
it already is bro lol. just wait until you see the numbers on the amd ryzen z2 extreme
@@justinsbennett bro lol Maybe He didnt know
@@justinsbennett Since there’s going to be a Z2 Extreme AI on the higher model, I’m curious how much further they can push the chip
@@silentmat2029 hopefully we can play games at 1080p 120fps natively. That would be amazing. I set mine to 900 or 720 depending on the title
Yeah huge issue is the screen not being oled
So the Xbox team pretty much shows just how bloated and shitty windows is for handhelds.... I'd love if the actual windows team cared about performance
ya basically
Still not the year of the Linux desktop though, you anime weirdos
Windows itself cares about compatibility, so your old software from the 90s still works today. I wouldn't be surprised for the Xbox and Windows teams to work together to make a dedicated OS for gamers much like Valve is doing.
@@Sonic6293 What do you mean, recent W11 update broke old direct x calls for tons of games that worked fine on W10...
It's thanks to GOG that pushes and sells games pre-patched that they often even work now on W11.
they probably can't.....they have to ensure windows work for the billion configurations out there , so maximum compaitablity is the goal...vs handheld which are very limited number of devices focused on maximum performance and battery savings
@@Sonic6293 Unlike Linux, which doesn't care about backwards compatibility and has billions to spend on improving the experience
I've yet to buy a handheld (no switch, nothing)....and this is likely going to be what tips me over the edge. I'm excited.
Picked up an ally for $300 on marketplace and if this releases as an optional update for all windows handhelds, my purchase will be twice as worth it!
@@scotthayes5386 I've heard it will be available for the Ally and Ally X post release
@@James16572 if it is on windows though I bet we can just flash the firmware on the older devices. Windows is like having a root android
@James16572 not untill 2026 unfortunately
Very shortly after release of xbox ally
Hopefully this new one will be about 350 new
Never has the shut up and take my money meme been more appropriate
Fr I almost bought a switch 2 until this was announced, a device where I can play steam, PlayStation and gamepass games? Take my money 😂
9:12 To this day, I have never had an intrusive update on any machine I've owned. I just get the "update and shut down" thing when closing my PC
I assume it’s if you leave your PC on and don’t update for weeks or months at a time. If you shut down your computer everyday there won’t be any intrusive updates
@@quatjohn4375 That would make sense, I shut my PC down frequently because I'm used to old hardware where leaving it running would cause a lot of damage
@@kylespevak6781 I completely agree
Same. The only thing that is similar to that is a notification popping up saying that my org requires me to restart sometime to install updates, and that is only on managed devices. probably not going to happen for most people using windows on their own pcs. Even with my machine, that I leave on, or hibernate when not in use, I don't get those messages. In fact, my current laptop is still stuck on 23h2.
2:57 that's clearly a Copilot button
It’s the Asus armoury crate button, but it’s upside down because it’s on the opposite side to the ROG Ally and they clearly just reused the same buttons for the prototype.
NO.
Never thought I would hear "neck ergonomics" at 2:17 on a handheld gaming device 💀
Thanks for doing your sponsor plug at the end of the video. Respect.
they did 2 sponsor plugs
THE SILKSONG IS REAAAAAAL!!! 😭 😭 😭
Do you always try this hard to fit in?
@@Onepieceistheworstanime do you always try this hard to be a big pain in the ass??
Honestly, I'm still curious to see if Valve can create a custom Zen 2 version for their next Steam Deck before I go for other handhelds like this.
You mean Zen 5 or 6? Zen 2 is Ryzen 3000
@@misimikI mean the new Z2 lineup for handhelds. The naming is just confusing. lol
they said steam deck 2 will come when there new technology, so its will be way ABOVE zen 2 lol.
Silksong was showcased on the Xbox handheld on the showcase!
Okay so what? What's the big deal? Why can't you people shut up about that?
@@Onepieceistheworstanime Someone woke up from the wrong side of the bed today
@@Onepieceistheworstanime ratio
@@theum5554 His name alone tells you a lot about him😂
Whats silksong?
Having a pc without the pc stuff and being dedicated to gaming is what I’m excited for. I like playing on console because I turn it on and my games are all updated and ready to go instantly. No playing around with settings, no updates, no fluff. Just games.
Limiting eGPU usage to the high end model only is a big miss, in my opinion. Can't wait to see the optimizations for gaming slowly work their way into regular Windows builds.
The only way to make Z1 E cheaper than 600 usd for them. Hopefully we can just install the new os on Gen 1 Handhelds.
Hope this becomes success and pushes windows optimization forward.
@@raulserrano351 spoilers: it won't
@ripelivejam yeah. It's looking more like a "Xbox Mode" for Windows.
windows isn't the only thing to blame, don't get me wrong the overhead is insane, 6gb to just 300mb when i used to run linux on my old crappy laptop was a HUGE difference and everything was better and snappier. but game devs are also the issue. they don't care about players with crap hardware, they expect everyone to have the top of the line, completely maxed out $25k builds. until game devs start optimizing their games, systems with less overhead will forever be able to squeeze out more performance even when needing to jump the hoop of a compatibility layer.
also about game optimization being horrible, these days games have 10 programmers that don't give a crap, 100 artists more busy on making the game "inclusive" rather than fun and cool to look at. there's a reason people still play older games, they where well made. they had innovative systems, they revolutionized their times. something the current game market lacks. many old games where made with just two or three programmers, a few artists, a horrible deadline, and a focus on making something that can run even on grandma's computer. devs now just want their crap to run on their testing computers (which are typically top of the line rigs) and push out games. i mean c'mon, how many game releases need a ton of day 1 patches and bug fixes? don't get me wrong that used to happen too but what happened to oh idk, testing your game before launch lol. it feels like for devs these days it's unheard of. not to mention this push to Unreal 5 has made the market worse in terms of overly saturated good looking, bad peforming, unfun games.
and before anyone attacks me, i myself am a programmer. i've been programming since 2017. i did game hacking most of it since i started off on the xbox 360 when i did my first RGH. as of late my only project related to game programming is a modding framework for an old version of minecraft windows 10 edition/bedrock, and a fully custom fork of cryengine a friend is using for their game. the game is fun to play in its current stage where it is incomplete and i am hoping all the best for his game.
sorry if my english is bad anywhere, it is not my primary language. i mostly speak spanish.
@@uptightsuperlabs And that's why the existence of something like the Switch/Switch 2 is extremely beneficial to gaming, since it gives devs and companies actual financial incentive to pull absolute magic just to put their games there, making them actually give a shit about optimization and fun. The Switch had multiple "impossible" tier port just because of this alone, and the Switch 2 literally starts of with an "impossible" port.
@@ripelivejamspoilers: haters gonna hate
Ok. Now this is great, I wanted a native game pass handheld for so long and now we have it. No windows, no steam, just Xbox. I'm excited
I mean windows still seems to be there, you can just skip it if you don't wanna use it, but by the looks and sounds of it you'll be able to boot out of the Xbox UI and do whatever you might need to do in a traditional windows environment.
It literally is Windows.
The Logitech G Cloud existed already. No windows and all that stuff you said. The only thing was having to stream from the cloud or stream from a console.
I'm a steamdeck guy but I have to say this looks pretty great.
If they’re smart they’ll give it 5G cellular capability so you can truly play on the go anytime
@@CarltonCarvalho you know what people bring everwhere nowadays? Their phones
we been doing this foreer now lol. hotspot mode on our phones bro
@@robertt.8629im aware. I just prefer if the device had its own connection.
Who not buying switch two waiting for the goat to bring a handheld pc
me
switch 2 is a joke, no analog triggers? NO THANK YOU
Skipping both. What a waste of time
Me
All these techtuber Xbox thumbnails giving me vacuum cleaner flashbacks XD
Happy news and maybe in the future of PC-gaming as well helpful for that!
Also love how Linus in this is smiling with his eyes!
Linus really excited about this one, yaay
5:16 _Somebody was running out of time_
1:00 does this new Xbox "XOS", or whatever we're calling it, perform on par with SteamOS?? And more importantly, will they be making a version of it available to download for people to try, separate from this handheld? I could see myself having a separate "gaming" Windows install with this UI if the performance is actually improved over Win11. Right now SteamOS still has a big advantage by being available separately, installable alongside Windows, while getting an actual performance boost in many games. I'd like to see Microsoft so something similar with their own platform.
i’m sure microsoft knows they have to do something because the writing is on the wall that valve will have all gaming os market within 5 years from now- if not less
@@ChipperMcManusno they won’t I hate steamos and Linux for that matter. All the games I wanna play have kernel level anti cheat and it simply does not work on Linux
@@anthonymowl5758 true and while i don’t entirely disagree i do think that if it were to go unchecked eventually you could even see kernel anti cheat go away because at some point of market share loss it’ll actually become a hindrance on game growth.
obviously all speculation tho
they could even call it OSX.... oh wait
@@anthonymowl5758right. That's why I think this could be so good. If it's on par with steam os, then it would probably provide the performance of Steam OS, but the stability and compatibility of Windows. I think Microsoft would be silly not to make an "XOS" or something for the PC Gaming crowd. Steam OS has proven that people are interested in it conceptually.
Well, connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse if it can run basic productivity tools, it will likely replace a notebook/desktop with portable gaming advantages.