If you’re new to playing Demon, I highly recommend grabbing some Geckos. Playing at 1 hp can be stressful and it will help you pick up your coins while focusing on dodging 😊
yeah but i highly suggest playing in a way that u dont get hit at all , good practice for higher waves . based on experience , mobs do around 1.1 mil dmg with no armor around wave 180 haha
@@brandonkruse6412 50% permanent g reduction after the first time u hit something .unlike pierce u cant fix richos dmg . Everytime u get 1 richo u perma reduce ur dmg by 50% per jump . That item is garbage
Another min-max trick is that if you take Handcuffs at around 500 hp, you can still get 10HP every round from Extra Stomach after taking Torture. For whatever reason, the limit on healing no longer applies after the round ends, so when you suck up all the leftover fruits at the end of the round, they can heal you to full and provide HP from Extra Stomach. Handcuffs doesn't limit your damage output, just your current HP, kind of like with Dodge & Retromation's Hoody. Dodge caps at 60, but Retromation's Hoody will still boost your attack speed if you go over that. Same with Handcuffs and items that base their damage on HP. Since your survivability comes from Tartigrade, not HP, it doesn't matter if you take Handcuffs at 500hp or 100,000hp.
A few reasons. 1) Handcuffs is a purple, and removing it from the loot pool increases your chances of getting a Vigilante Ring or Tartigrade, the two most important items for an endless run. 2) As odd as it sounds, it means you can get another 10 HP every round from the Extra Stomach, like I describe in my comment. This doesn't effect your current HP, but does affect the HP used in the damage calculations for the Potato Launcher, Spicy Sauce and Alien Eyes. 3) Enemy damage has insane scaling, so you'll die if you take a hit without Tartigrade anyway, so capping you HP has no effective downsides.@@BlackBinderGames
@@nate5869 Nah, it's like dodge and attack speed. Dodge caps at 60 but your attack speed still benefits from dodge over the cap. I've got a run at like wave 760 where I'm doing billions of damage but my HP is capped at like 600.
(END OF VID) u know its funny u mentioned it, cuz i fell asleep watching it awhile ago and just turned it on at the end with you telling me to watch the vid again to understand. that was epic funny timeing and yes i will watch it. thanks bud!
Just finished a very lucky run, I got Short bullet after wave 3, it’s quite a big help for me to clean the monsters. A big thank for your video!!! Pierce is sososo important for this build, especially for someone like me clumsy dogging😅
For what it's worth, your goal for attack speed is actually 2801. At that point your garden cooldown will go to 0 instead of 1 second. This doesn't mean it spawns endless fruit, it just means that the gardens continually do their fruit animation, without any cooldown. The animation itself still takes about a second. It's a massive dps boost and marks the point where you basically become unkillable. I can literally run and stand on bosses as they spawn in and they will die before I do. (I also have 34 Tartigrade). For funsies I even sold my weapons and can still kill the bosses no problem, just with Spicy Sauce.
I dont take handcuffs , what u said is right but i like to have the option of being able to take a damage or 2. Not taking it is better than taking it tho . It will save ur life at some points. Specially if ur run takes too long to escalate.
If you get to much consumable healing, it gets you killed aswell, because you don't eat fruits automatically when you are on full HP. Happened to me on Wave 150 and got me killed.
Yeah , thats something u need to either fully ignore and dont take to be safe or go full try hard and try to match ur healing speed with ur full hp gauge. Fruit healing is kind of a try harding it a bit , its not even essential to do so
Thanks for the guide. Spent too much on last shop and died at Wave 57 with around 700 health. Didn't realize how much damage bosses do as the prior bosses went down easy. First time getting that high, thanks to you. When you lock in Tier 1 items passed Wave 60, do you keep them locked for the rest of the run or change it up?
Tnk uuu ❤️After first hit , it permanently reduces ur damage by 50% and there is no way of fixing it. Every ricochet reduces ur dmg after bounce by 50% so if u do 100 on first u do 50 on 2nd and 25 on 3rd
@bitayt_ they changed something during update so it doesnt work anymore but u can still lock White flag and Candle and pocket factory to maximize ur item gain
Thanks for this awesome guide. I have watched it sever times, took notes, and now I am setting up my game for a run and saw you beat the game with the Ranger (Night Goggles) and Well Rounded (Potato). You used both of these items in the run, but didn't mention them as key/core anywhere. Am I better off having these items available or removing them from the loot pool? Cheers for the awesome guide! Edit: I may have missed it, but do you play with a mouse and keyboard or a controller? My movement skills are lacking and need to practice.
U dont really need googles or potato. I play with mouse and keyboard . Because i can aim and shoot with mouse. I never liked controllers in my 20 years of gaming
Hi Durandian, thx for the reply earlier. And what are your thoughts on Excalibur for endless with demon? I guess that would require a slightly different setup as there is a higher risk due to a) melee weapon Range, and b) melee weapon not pointing all towards one direction, hence needing a different positioning in the screen
My pleasure mate. To be honest weapons dont matter that much after wave 100 but 1 Excalibur is fine and helps but more than that will kinda endanger ur knockback .around wave 150 ur weapons will completely be useless so dont stress over it too much
1:14 are the first 4 characters all necessary? Referring to well-rounded, brawler, crazy and ranger? And same for the items, are these ALL necessary to get to this point, or were some just randomly unlocked? Something like Shmoop, Gummy Berserker etc. I noticed you got Weird Ghost in the run you did but didn't have it in the unlocks, is that intended to be unlocked?
Helloooow. Yeah sadly. The items u unlock are absolutely necessary for scaling.2. aome items were random unlocks when I was recording other videoes u just need the 4 5 items
@@mantinez658 mobile is 3 times harder. Invest in dmg and attack speed and nothing else. Get 9% movement speed. Even with 1 hp u should be ok as long as u dont play in the center of the map and keep moving
U will buy bags to get 15 extra coins from crates early , that reduces ur speed by 1 % so even after all 3 bags bought , u still have +1 % speed which makes dodging not suck till u get enough coins to be able to buy dmg and utilities later. If u spend too much on speed , any kind of armor , dodge or anything other than dmg and attack speed + essential items , u wont make a heavy build when u hit wave 20.its just about unnecessary detailed mid maxing and try harding 😄
@1:27:53 how come you don’t take potato? Is it too expensive for all the small incremental bonuses? Also great video. I can’t believe I watched nearly 2 hours of this game but every decision was explained and there was just a massive amount of information. Thank you！
😘😘😘❤️ glad it was helpful mate . Potato and items like that lose their stat value over time , so if u buy em before wave 30 they are usually great to good but after that they are below average upgrades
I'm pretty new to this game. But enjoying it a lot so far. Your guide is good. And I'm enjoying trying to follow your guide. But if your fighting your alien eyes for kills. Would it work just not buying it for later? Or do you need a lot and won't have enough shops to get them all?
Aaaah welcome to the Brotato fellowship mate 😄👍its a super fun game and u can just play it oooover and over again and it will still be a new challenge every time.U need a looot of alien eyesfor endless. U gotta start buying them early so the more waves u go into the game the better.
Thanks for this! I finally broke through the wave 50 mark and have a game past wave 200 wave now. One comment though, aren't you better off locking 4 purple items in the shop? The game rolls for rarity before rolling for the specific item, right? So if you remove the other purples from the loot pool you have a greater chance of getting Tardigrade & Vigilante Ring whenever it rolls purple. Thanks again for the guide.
glad to hear that bud. the reason why I lock lvl 1 gray items is economy not the chances . when u sell the purple items u get more coins and more coins mean more HP and dmg and everything . so on the long run maybe yeah u get a couple of purples u need more often buuuuut u will be getting more grays in the crates which will sell for less coin value
Ugh, not sure if you read the most recent patch notes but they fixed the "Bug" where locked items in the shop affected loot crates, so it sounds like it doesn't matter any more what we lock.@@durandian
I don't understand why we are lock 4 level 1 items. In the wiki page, it says "If you lock an Unique Item, it cannot show up in Loot Crates while locked. Regular items can still show up in Loot Crates while locked."
Congratz mate ! well with Hunting Trophy ,each time u kill with a critical hit u get extra coin if u have all 3 . Land mines , baby with a beard , cyber ball and baby elephant and rip and tear CAN NOT do critical damage so u cant get coins from hunting trophy from them
@@durandian Aww thanks, Im trying to get over 100 next time :D And thanks for answering, but doesnt baby with beard also do crit? Havent tested it but I`ve checked the wiki and it says "Baby with a Beard's projectiles can Crit, Lifesteal, pierce, bounce do "normal" attack things. However, it does not work with Scared Sausage".
Thats for weapon bounce and lifesteal . Baby doesnt life steal or crit. There are some secondary dmg sources , those dont crit. Cyber ball , rip and tear , baby elephant , baby with a beard , scared susage and spicy sauce are secondary dmg sources + turrets. Anytime mate ❤️ u will beat 100 eaaassyyyy
For what it's worth, Baby With a Beard does crit, but since its damage isn't based on health it doesn't do much (About 1/5 of an Alien Eyes in my current playthrough) and can create a lot of lag, so it's not worth it unless you have a monster computer that can handle it and want that little extra damage.@@durandian
From the wiki: "Baby with a Beard's projectiles can Crit, Lifesteal, pierce, bounce do "normal" attack things. However, it does not work with Scared Sausage"
Ah I think i did didnt ? Its a guide for starters so I think I mentioned which heroes they need to unlock for this. I made this so both veterans and new players could do it
Its a guide for everyone to be able to do the infinite run so I didnt go with hardcore start. I made the infinite runs so I kinda set up the guide so both new and old players can do it 👍😊
Locking items in the shop doesn't mean you can't get them in crates - this was updated in latest patch and I have tested it. However if you lock unique items they wont show up anymore. I'm thinking of locking candle, white flag and pocket factory
I’m a little late to the party, but maybe anyone can still answer. I’m having really big troubles to meet the stats you said to achieve after wave 20. Especially the pick up range gives me lots of troubles. Besides that after wave 30 the prices get so insanely high, that it does not make sense to shop anymore, since the prices get so high, that I’m not increasing my health. Also I’m not getting any chests anymore, except for chests from bosses, around wave 30 onwards and luck does not seem to have any effect at all anymore. That’s a problem, because at this point I barely have enough items to survive boss waves and since everything moves so fast it seems impossible to dodge anything at all. That being said, damage is no problem, I kill everything very fast, but especially elites just move faster than I can kill them. And since most of the runs my pick up range is too low, it’s hard to instantkill them with explosions. They still die in 2-3 seconds, but they burn through the tardigrades like it’s nothing and at some point there are so many bosses, that even 2-3 seconds of them alive are too long to survive the wave. I feel like the run works very well, but only when everything works out and you get the items you need fast. I’m trying to follow the steps in the video, but am I missing something important/obvious? At this point it seems like I can’t get higher than wave 100 :( I’m grateful for every tip and help. I would really like to reach wave 500 or something in that area.
U gotta increase ur movement speed to +80 then 160% really quick before u get past 100. Minimum 80 if u wanna live after wave 60. And for pick up range u can both buy the item that gives pick up range and then even buy the frogs which reduce dodge but give harvesting and pick up range . Those stats come together over time but u gotta rush as much as possible. So 800 pick up range is what u need but getting tp 300-400 will be a biiiig help u can 100% do it if u buy the frogs. U arent late i answer all comments 😂🤣😂 U can also join discord and livestreams , istream on utube every day
U can still buy good upgrade items after 30 but dont buy EVERYTHING . Gardens tardigrades pick up range and vigilante rings are good buys till wave 50. U gonna get everything u need from crates so dont worry that much and for more info u can read the other comments they asked mostly the same questions
@@durandian wow thank you so much for the fast response. I will keep that in mind. Your guide is very good and helpful btw. Thanks for all your effort and work :)
@@lukasmuller7736 my pleasure mate. Ask any questions on any guides u see I keep a look out to my community so u in good hands at least on indie games category 😄👍😘 glad u enjoy them
@@durandianSince you said I should just ask… ^^ I just read some stuff about endless tactics and some people said Excalibur is better for endless mode, since it scales way better with hp than potato thrower and you can increase its range so it basically becomes a ranged weapon. What’s your opinion on that?
Can you explain why you don't take items like cyberball, baby elephant, baby with a beard, rip and tear? I find those items combine with spicy sauce to chain damage around the map, so fewer enemies attack you.
U only benefit from hunting Trophy if u kill an enemy with a critical hit and those items can not crit so u lose materials when cyberball or others get the kill. Its basic math behind it , those items reduce ur economy end game, by a high percentage
@@durandian happend to be my first run of the day and i got to wave 14 but then the game said no lol and just 3 shot me in 1 second. i dont even know what happend. then i tried medical gun instead and i got further but i didint had enough damage to make myself somespace. i dont want to know what danger 5 will be haha
🤣😂🤣😂 doctor gets 50% less armor so what u need is just scissors, 4 armor , 16 dmg on a lvl 1 acissor. 60 70% attack speed . 20 ish % dodge and when u have these just get him dmg and as much hp as possible and he will kinda be invincible
Wanted to say thanks this is the best guide ever even though I was already addicted to the game before I learned many things watching your guide. I had decent runs with demon before but only got up to like level 57 or something like that. After watching your vid, after more hours practicing, was able to put together a monster run am approaching wave 350 on the Xbox with no end in sight. I probably just jinxed myself though and will now die next wave. Thanks again. What's the current world record nowadays?
@@durandian Thanks again bro. You probably already know this but if you get atk speed up to 2390 or 3000 I think I didn't quite pay close attention, you can drop the spawn time of garden fruit down to 0 seconds. When I first saw my garden spawn was at 0 seconds I let out the dorkiest laugh ever cause now demon is even more unstoppable on endless. But again apologies if that is already a known tactic, if not try it out it's great!
@vpin damn 🤣😂🤣0 !!! Never seen that one. Brotato doesnt have decimal numbers so it is probbly not 0 . Its more of a 0.4 or less . Thanks for the information though it was funny 🤣
@@durandian LOL agreed most likely 0.04 speed or something similar to the potato thrower speed. Am on wave 750 my item and stats are ridiculous. Got like 72 tardigrades, 91 Grind leaves, 7100 splosion dmg, 3200 splosion size. Like you mentioned before you don't even see the enemies anymore they just die right at the spot of x spawn lol
How about Ritual, Focus and Spider (and maybe Fin since speed = dmg with Power Generator) - aren't these items also required to attempt high waves? Also what's your record? Is it a world record right now? And is there any place with some kind of leaderboard where I can check how other players are doing in terms of attempting beating the world record?
Before wave 300 they are good but after some point in the game , u get ao many vigilante rings that u dont need any dmg % anymore so u just sell them and turn them into coins= hp which gets multiplied by 1000s of dmg% which then is multiplied by 100s of explosion dmg%. Take them till u have like 20 30 vigilante rings, then start selling them it doesnt matter anymore after some point.after wave 300 its just a matter of how fast i can do how many waves. My record is wave 800. Basically it was infinite but either ur pc is gonna die, brotato or it will make no sense to play anymore. I submitted my record to speedrun.com like 2 months ago. They havent posted it yet
Hey I am trying this strat. I get to wave 100 but at this point I haven't gotten any crates dropped outside of the ones that drop in boss waves. I can't exactly tell when, but at some point between wave 70 and 100 I stop getting crates. At this point buying items for life is too expensive, so I get barely any upgrades at all any more. How do you keep dropping so many crates? I have 1700 or so luck at this stage
After a certain point u stop getting crates from any kind of luck. I usually buy the lucky coin late so I get my crates when I have basic stuff so more valuable drops come from them
If u lock an item in the shop , u cant find them in crates , so it increases ur chance of getting better items that u need from crates that drop from mobs
I am having the absolute most insane 0.01% run right now. I do not say this to be disrespectful, but I have about 30% better stats than you at wave 51, with FOUR EXCALIBURS, 3 of them found before wave 25. I don’t know what I did to deserve this but thank you for this video! I will say to anyone reading and wanting to try, there is still so much to learn even after watching. There is a lot of “why” to some of the rules he said that I didn’t understand until I failed a few times. I’ve tried this run about 50 times and have had decent runs (~wave 75) but NOTHING like this run so far.
This was literally the first try I did on recording the guide video so the potential of u guys getting better stats is much higher. Keep it up dude , even if u fail and die at some point just restart and start over. U will get an infinite run eventually. When u are done with this Just for the fun of it 🤣😂 check my channel for 0.01% farmer run, do that one after demon. Its a fun build too
Because it makes me explode equal to my hp multiplied by my dmg % multiplied by my explosion damage . Its a damage type from an item called Spicy sauce. Thats how u go infinite. Its that damage combo and tnks mate ❤️
@@christianantonow1686 u can only consume them by walking over them. U cant attract them from far. That is why we buy the sad tomato that decreases our starting HP by50% . So we automatically eat fruits all the time
I messed up big time... I have the best endless run by far and I noticed that I dont have the fricking potato thorwers unlocked, because I played the lucky instead. Is there any way, that I can Pause my endless run, complete another and resume my endless run?
@@hollowcrow9041 to be honest no there are no ways around this. Trust me u gonna eventually have better runs than what you have so just restart the game and believe in urself
@@durandian yeah I just restared it like 10 Minuten after I wrote it. Currently in a perfect run at wave 205. I think I am outscaling at this point so I just have to play on
27:31 is that so? I had blood donation and a bloody hand in the game, and at the same time the tardigrades were still working and zeroing out enemy attacks.
U lose 1 tardigrade every second when u get 1 or even 100 blood donations. The thing is , u cant have no tardigrades. Mobs will hit u for millions of dmg so u wanna not use them as much as possible so u can survive
@dr.sunshine2967 havent checked that in a while but if it works that way thats fantastic but if it doesnt u are responsible for deaths of many potatoes 🤣😂 if i remember right donation and hand info says u take dmg every second so if it doesnt remove a tardigrade thats a bug . It works because its broken or they got to change the description of tardigrade
@@durandian no, I meant that the damage from blood donation, scythes and bloody hands do not waste tardigrades at all. I play on the premium mobile version and I know for sure that the same updates on PC and phone come at different times. Perhaps this feature was added to mobile devices earlier, but these items still spend tardigrades on PCs.
I attempted this a dozen times on mobile. Not getting hit is just not possible past wave 11 (for me at least). The controls just aren't precise enough. Weirdly I get a lot further with glutton doing pruners & landmines, then switching to potato launcher after wave 20 just to keep the enemies away from me so chain damage can take them out.
I'm new to brotato and managed to hit wave 100 on Android within the first 5 or so attempts. The first waves are definitely the hardest , after that you don't really have to anything anymore. Just run around. If I can do it, you can do it as well
Originally asked why it's harder for vets but you answered it near the end with the limited items lmao Also, is it viable to AFK some of the waves later on? I imagine if so, this becomes much more feasible to hit the high 100s lol
Doesnt work. It barely does 1% of the dmg u would do with potato throwers because explosion dmg is random shop item but HP is 100% gain every wave. If u wanna see how good nukelunchers can be go watch my stream on glutton world record 😂🤣 I just did it today. Im trying to go infinitte on glutton
Hello, whenever I play demon with ghost scepters, after a certain point (in the middle of 36th level) my HP stops increasing. It is so weird. Have you ever experienced something like that? (Fyi, i did not buy the shackle that limits the max hp)
U are probably killing everything with explosions and alien eyes. Sometimes u do so much dmg that the mobs die before scepter bullets can hit them You are suffering from being too powerful 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
thank you so much your response, however, i am 100% sure i am not doing that because +1 max hp symbol appears arround my character, but the hp does not increase. I am sure that it is a bug but i couldnt understand why that happens. It is something like the garden doesnt work when you buy the item that creates a turret when you kill a tree and kill a tree
@@MustafaYasarr That is gotta be new after one of the minor updates. Uuughhhhh hope they fix it. The damn DLC will come out and I wish no bugs stay in the game after that
Yeah 140 is my sweet spot for speed. U also still benefit from power generator dmg % after using shackles so feel free to do it so u remove another unique item from shop
Thanks for the guide, man. Is there any point where u stop taking dmg on the crates and u only sell all the items for economy? Got curious of what gives u more dmg (if heal or pure dmg)
Yeah , at some point around wave 100iish items dont make much sense so u sell everything except dmg% explosion dmg and radius + gardens. U can also not sell the items that give Speed because Speed + Power generator = dmg % Its just about stat management at some point.
@@durandian ty, I meant if there's any wave where u stop taking even the speed or damage items on the crates because the materials itself gives u life (which is converted into damage by the built) and it's not worth it to take them anymore. I'm almost at wave 400 with ur build and, by now, I already feel inmortal, but I don't want to mess it up, and I'm trying to maximize as much as possible
@@carlescasas3263 just grab a calculator , multiply ur hp by the dmg % u gonna get from the item , then check the price of the crate when u sell it and find out how many hp u get for the price of coins. Then see if its worth it or not. In my experience the dmg % u get is muuuuch muuch bigger than the hp u gonna get from selling crates.
I didnt see any hot fix note for it. But if u could find any proof that the bug is fixed sure why not. It is still broken i think. Please let me know if you get new info.
just to tell you Ranged Damage is scaling 100% with the scepter, so 3 Ranged Damage gets you 3 extra Damage per hit. If your weapon does a base damage of 30 5% more damage means 1,5 more damage. And Ranged Damage also scales with extra damage. So if you already got 30% extra damage 3 ranged damage gives you 4 more damage :)
Yeah but that doesnt scale nearly enough to be even considered as DMG in endless. Mobs get thousand plus hp boost. 1 ranged dmg is nothing u get more when u sell or save the coins u gonna invest in it
hellooooo ! It permanently reduces ur damage output by 50% after the first time it bounces. every time u get 1 more bounce / Richochet it is reduced by another 50% on the 2nd bounce and so on. u can end up doing 1 dmg if u buy enough of em :D
i see 1 thing, at the start, the scepter only give you life if 1 of the 6 scepter is what kill the 20 enemys, in that case not is better combine it if you can cleam with less of them? because if you have 3 rare scepter is more probably 1 scepter kill the neccesary enemys to give you life but with 6 common scepter is so difficult? or the kills is acumulative for the next wave? i dont understand good how the scepter work
Sometimes u dont get weapons for a few waves so when u combine them u reduce ur dmg. U got to keep in mind that ur best source of HP gain isnt the scepter kills , its coins. Dmg/ weapons = kills = coin = hp
We dont get that much ranged dmg upgrades for the build so when u take them , specially in the first 20 waves it really reduces ur dmg. Dmg% alone cant help u have that explosive boss deleting speed
The character Demon (last character on the list) changes half of his coins into HP at the end of every wave . That makes the HP go up and scale infinitely
On the brotato wiki I saw that dynamites stacks additively with the damage (if you have a Dynamite and +30% damage, your explosive weapons will deal +45% damage in total). So why do you prioritize 15% explosion damage over 25% from the cannon ? Also I don’t understand why you don’t take triangle of power because you are not supposed to be hit once so it’s a free 20% damage no ?
it might say it like that but when u got 100 dmg and u get 10% dmg increase it becomes 110 , then explosions adds lets say 10% to it and it becomes 121. explosion dmg has a bigger impact on end game dmg than anything specially raw weapon dmg. u get 1 extra boss every 10 waves. my run is on wave 800 now so im getting A LOT of bosses , U WILL get hit a LOT :D so u will lose lets say 200% dmg if u get a 100 of those triangles PER hit. if u wanna make a +1000 wave run, just dont take them . not worth it
My run started 2 weeks ago, i promised some viewers i will only play it on livestream so im still on 800 , they will beat the record soon .After u know what to do , its just a matter of who got more time
It's a tricksy game. But that's what supplies my insatiable urge for it! I'm on my last character to win on max danger. Probably not going to play endless. Seems too tedious for my taste. 😅
U need to just buy things u really need , then the cost becomes too much , if u dont buy items and just keep stackings coins and turn them into HP u get more dmg and overall value
İt does but on this build u dont need it. İt gives u less dmg than just simply having more hp. Range dmg might help u till wave 20 but in general the flat dmg values get rekt after wave 20. The only thing that works is hp for dmg items because they scale much better.
it reduces ur damage permanently . u can reduce piece damage reduction with pumpkins but u cant do the same with Richo. I tried it many times with Richochet , it is just bad .
@@durandian thanks for the reply! I've just finished D5 with all the characters so i found this vid to help me take endless to the next level! one more question, why is bounce bad? is it because the bounce takes the projectile away from the nearest enemy? i always assumed bounce was better than piercing because it's automatically seeking
@@curtiswatson4192 my pleasure mate. Sorry for late reply im currently a bit off streaming because of some personal issues. The bounce permanently reduces ur dmg by 50% after the first hit so it just ruins ur game
@@durandian But why isn't dat mention in the item description. I argued with another streamer about it, where he insited on 50% and I said, no it's only 35% dmg as the tooltip indicates. It was soo confusing.
@@KingAxel94 let me put it this way , this is the same for both pierce and richo .for example U do 10 dmg with 50 reducttion doesnt matter pierce or richo . First hit u do 10 dmg . 2nd bounce/pierce u do 5. 3rd u do 2.5 dmg and so on . Its simple. U can make pierce 0 % reduction so u do 10 dmg on all hits but richo has no reduction item so by taking it u reduce ur second hit and 3rd and so on permenantly lower
@@durandian I’m pretty sure Ricochet is worth taking on this kind of run. Yes, what you’re saying is true about the damage penalty but the potato throwers eventually fall off in a the triple digit waves and you have to supplement with gardens. I have noticed that on runs where I take Ricochet early, I ramp up much much faster in coins and health because I’m killing faster and out scaling to the point that the penalty doesn’t matter. Attack speed in Endless doesn’t improve your weapon damage to an extent but you can think of Ricochet as an attack speed multiplier during the waves where your potato throwers can melt through hordes.
@@brandonkruse6412 in general , I never had a good experience taking ricochet on my runs , Im a good old fashioned pierce only guy . keep it simple make it work 🤣😂
I ve been playing this game for over 900 hours now, that excitement and thrill of another broken buuild is the reason i keep coming back to it + who wouldnt wanna be a potato with 6 guns!?😂🤣
Your guide is amazing, but not perfect... When you have 1600% attack speed, ur garden cooldown is like 1.8 seconds. You need to get 2800 attack speed for it to be exactly 1 second. It even works after that making your gardens even faster if you increase ur attack speed further
@@durandian It is not a miscalculation. The game rounds the value down to the nearest whole number. At around 1400 it reads 1 second but in reality is 1.99 seconds. Thanks to your guide tho, I have a wave 300 run ongoing that I would't have been able to come up with myself
If you’re new to playing Demon, I highly recommend grabbing some Geckos. Playing at 1 hp can be stressful and it will help you pick up your coins while focusing on dodging 😊
Good point there mate . Range really helps with the pesky little blood suckers
@@durandian if you can afford the -range damage, Gecko has good healing synergy with Monkey as well especially with %enemies up
yeah but i highly suggest playing in a way that u dont get hit at all , good practice for higher waves . based on experience , mobs do around 1.1 mil dmg with no armor around wave 180 haha
@@durandianis there a reason not to take Ricochet?
@@brandonkruse6412 50% permanent g reduction after the first time u hit something .unlike pierce u cant fix richos dmg . Everytime u get 1 richo u perma reduce ur dmg by 50% per jump . That item is garbage
Another min-max trick is that if you take Handcuffs at around 500 hp, you can still get 10HP every round from Extra Stomach after taking Torture. For whatever reason, the limit on healing no longer applies after the round ends, so when you suck up all the leftover fruits at the end of the round, they can heal you to full and provide HP from Extra Stomach. Handcuffs doesn't limit your damage output, just your current HP, kind of like with Dodge & Retromation's Hoody. Dodge caps at 60, but Retromation's Hoody will still boost your attack speed if you go over that. Same with Handcuffs and items that base their damage on HP. Since your survivability comes from Tartigrade, not HP, it doesn't matter if you take Handcuffs at 500hp or 100,000hp.
Why would you want to cap your HP?
A few reasons.
1) Handcuffs is a purple, and removing it from the loot pool increases your chances of getting a Vigilante Ring or Tartigrade, the two most important items for an endless run.
2) As odd as it sounds, it means you can get another 10 HP every round from the Extra Stomach, like I describe in my comment. This doesn't effect your current HP, but does affect the HP used in the damage calculations for the Potato Launcher, Spicy Sauce and Alien Eyes.
3) Enemy damage has insane scaling, so you'll die if you take a hit without Tartigrade anyway, so capping you HP has no effective downsides.@@BlackBinderGames
@anshelmswift235 potato guns scale off max hp and demon gets lots of it so capping it also caps damage
@@nate5869 Nah, it's like dodge and attack speed. Dodge caps at 60 but your attack speed still benefits from dodge over the cap. I've got a run at like wave 760 where I'm doing billions of damage but my HP is capped at like 600.
(END OF VID) u know its funny u mentioned it, cuz i fell asleep watching it awhile ago and just turned it on at the end with you telling me to watch the vid again to understand. that was epic funny timeing and yes i will watch it. thanks bud!
😂🤣😂🤣 u literally experience the meme about falling sleep while watching utube and waking up to the " The giant horse co$# " sentence
Many thanks for making this video ❤
I watched it without miss a second, for me the hardest part is first 20 waves….😢
Keep practicing bud , u gonna do it sometime 👍👍
Just finished a very lucky run, I got Short bullet after wave 3, it’s quite a big help for me to clean the monsters.
A big thank for your video!!! Pierce is sososo important for this build, especially for someone like me clumsy dogging😅
@@pagesliu pierce is AWESOME ! Cant do without it . Glad the video helped ❤️ u need to put on some banger music, makes dodging way epic and better 😂🤣
For what it's worth, your goal for attack speed is actually 2801. At that point your garden cooldown will go to 0 instead of 1 second. This doesn't mean it spawns endless fruit, it just means that the gardens continually do their fruit animation, without any cooldown. The animation itself still takes about a second. It's a massive dps boost and marks the point where you basically become unkillable. I can literally run and stand on bosses as they spawn in and they will die before I do. (I also have 34 Tartigrade). For funsies I even sold my weapons and can still kill the bosses no problem, just with Spicy Sauce.
I dont take handcuffs , what u said is right but i like to have the option of being able to take a damage or 2. Not taking it is better than taking it tho . It will save ur life at some points. Specially if ur run takes too long to escalate.
Well 2801 is cool but mate it lags the hell out of the game so I avoid it 😂😂🤣
Watched all the way till the end, reached wave 50 in ease. Thank you so much! Gonna enjoy the grinding then
I guess the Pocket Factory lags the game, and that’s why you never pick it lol
My pleasure mate😘 keep it up. Practice makes perfect !
Noooooooo dont buy pocket factory. It has a bug that breaks gardens. They stop giving fruits when u arent around them
If you get to much consumable healing, it gets you killed aswell, because you don't eat fruits automatically when you are on full HP. Happened to me on Wave 150 and got me killed.
Yeah , thats something u need to either fully ignore and dont take to be safe or go full try hard and try to match ur healing speed with ur full hp gauge. Fruit healing is kind of a try harding it a bit , its not even essential to do so
This is why I take Torture.
Thanks for the guide. Spent too much on last shop and died at Wave 57 with around 700 health. Didn't realize how much damage bosses do as the prior bosses went down easy. First time getting that high, thanks to you.
When you lock in Tier 1 items passed Wave 60, do you keep them locked for the rest of the run or change it up?
Nice dude u gonna get past 57 dont worry 😁 yeah they always stay locked in the shop at that point
Thanks! Currently on Wave 83. Made me realize how insane 800 is.
@@cqstle- niiiice 👍go for it dude
That's a great guide! Could you pls tell why bounce is bad? Seems like a good way to improve damage. Also pls tell why do you lock items in the end
Tnk uuu ❤️After first hit , it permanently reduces ur damage by 50% and there is no way of fixing it. Every ricochet reduces ur dmg after bounce by 50% so if u do 100 on first u do 50 on 2nd and 25 on 3rd
@@durandian thx a lot! now I understand. And what about locking items after the wave 50?
@bitayt_ they changed something during update so it doesnt work anymore but u can still lock White flag and Candle and pocket factory to maximize ur item gain
Thanks for this awesome guide. I have watched it sever times, took notes, and now I am setting up my game for a run and saw you beat the game with the Ranger (Night Goggles) and Well Rounded (Potato). You used both of these items in the run, but didn't mention them as key/core anywhere. Am I better off having these items available or removing them from the loot pool? Cheers for the awesome guide!
Edit: I may have missed it, but do you play with a mouse and keyboard or a controller? My movement skills are lacking and need to practice.
U dont really need googles or potato.
I play with mouse and keyboard . Because i can aim and shoot with mouse. I never liked controllers in my 20 years of gaming
i play brotato on mobile, but items that deal damage to self (like scythe or lifestyle glove) do not use up your tardigrade
Mobile and pc game have really big differences in some ways
Hi Durandian, thx for the reply earlier. And what are your thoughts on Excalibur for endless with demon?
I guess that would require a slightly different setup as there is a higher risk due to a) melee weapon Range, and b) melee weapon not pointing all towards one direction, hence needing a different positioning in the screen
My pleasure mate. To be honest weapons dont matter that much after wave 100 but 1 Excalibur is fine and helps but more than that will kinda endanger ur knockback .around wave 150 ur weapons will completely be useless so dont stress over it too much
Thx. Do you have a video about the later stages? Thx to this one I made it yesterday to Level 76 :)
1:14 are the first 4 characters all necessary? Referring to well-rounded, brawler, crazy and ranger?
And same for the items, are these ALL necessary to get to this point, or were some just randomly unlocked? Something like Shmoop, Gummy Berserker etc.
I noticed you got Weird Ghost in the run you did but didn't have it in the unlocks, is that intended to be unlocked?
Helloooow. Yeah sadly. The items u unlock are absolutely necessary for scaling.2. aome items were random unlocks when I was recording other videoes u just need the 4 5 items
I think weird ghost is a lvl 0 unlock item so it was just there. Its not worth buying after it costs more than 2 hp tho
Love your video i saw this video 3 times but i forgot some stuff
Practice it in small parts. Help remembering
I watched all of this just to forget what to do on the other waves now i have to watch it back 😭
Oh noo 😂🤣😂🤣🥺 Well its not just an endless guide. Its kinda a long tutorial on How To Potato 😄
@@durandian oh man this is so hard 😞 I can't even get past wave 9 got any tips for me? I use mobile if that helps I always get hit and die
@@mantinez658 mobile is 3 times harder. Invest in dmg and attack speed and nothing else. Get 9% movement speed. Even with 1 hp u should be ok as long as u dont play in the center of the map and keep moving
@@durandian ok understood 🙏 thx
@mantinez658 my pleasure mate 👍 Best of luck . If u dont give up, u will eventually do it !!
Hey, i just stumbled across your video. I hope you'll read this and answer. What exactly do i need at least one Beanie for?
U will buy bags to get 15 extra coins from crates early , that reduces ur speed by 1 % so even after all 3 bags bought , u still have +1 % speed which makes dodging not suck till u get enough coins to be able to buy dmg and utilities later. If u spend too much on speed , any kind of armor , dodge or anything other than dmg and attack speed + essential items , u wont make a heavy build when u hit wave 20.its just about unnecessary detailed mid maxing and try harding 😄
why do you need the pickup range item when you although have Sifts Relict?
sry if I don't hear the reason in the video.
Sift is for coins, i need pull range for fruits. When I eat fruits I explode for a billion dmg
@1:27:53 how come you don’t take potato? Is it too expensive for all the small incremental bonuses? Also great video. I can’t believe I watched nearly 2 hours of this game but every decision was explained and there was just a massive amount of information. Thank you！
😘😘😘❤️ glad it was helpful mate . Potato and items like that lose their stat value over time , so if u buy em before wave 30 they are usually great to good but after that they are below average upgrades
This was a great guide but explosion damage does not multiply with % damage, they just add together
Yeah I forgot that. I forgot it on the demon video too LOL
I'm pretty new to this game. But enjoying it a lot so far. Your guide is good. And I'm enjoying trying to follow your guide. But if your fighting your alien eyes for kills. Would it work just not buying it for later? Or do you need a lot and won't have enough shops to get them all?
Aaaah welcome to the Brotato fellowship mate 😄👍its a super fun game and u can just play it oooover and over again and it will still be a new challenge every time.U need a looot of alien eyesfor endless. U gotta start buying them early so the more waves u go into the game the better.
Thanks for this! I finally broke through the wave 50 mark and have a game past wave 200 wave now. One comment though, aren't you better off locking 4 purple items in the shop? The game rolls for rarity before rolling for the specific item, right? So if you remove the other purples from the loot pool you have a greater chance of getting Tardigrade & Vigilante Ring whenever it rolls purple.
Thanks again for the guide.
glad to hear that bud. the reason why I lock lvl 1 gray items is economy not the chances . when u sell the purple items u get more coins and more coins mean more HP and dmg and everything . so on the long run maybe yeah u get a couple of purples u need more often buuuuut u will be getting more grays in the crates which will sell for less coin value
Ugh, not sure if you read the most recent patch notes but they fixed the "Bug" where locked items in the shop affected loot crates, so it sounds like it doesn't matter any more what we lock.@@durandian
well shit happens :D the most important thing is always enjoying the game , anything else is just detail so just enjoy it :D
I don't understand why we are lock 4 level 1 items. In the wiki page, it says "If you lock an Unique Item, it cannot show up in Loot Crates while locked. Regular items can still show up in Loot Crates while locked."
That change was made in the previous patch. When I made this video it was working , now its changed to only unique item locking works
Really great video, I reached wave 59 today but got too greedy at the end.
But one question: Why dont you take baby with beard? Or mines?
Congratz mate !
well with Hunting Trophy ,each time u kill with a critical hit u get extra coin if u have all 3 . Land mines , baby with a beard , cyber ball and baby elephant and rip and tear CAN NOT do critical damage so u cant get coins from hunting trophy from them
@@durandian Aww thanks, Im trying to get over 100 next time :D
And thanks for answering, but doesnt baby with beard also do crit? Havent tested it but I`ve checked the wiki and it says "Baby with a Beard's projectiles can Crit, Lifesteal, pierce, bounce do "normal" attack things. However, it does not work with Scared Sausage".
Thats for weapon bounce and lifesteal . Baby doesnt life steal or crit. There are some secondary dmg sources , those dont crit. Cyber ball , rip and tear , baby elephant , baby with a beard , scared susage and spicy sauce are secondary dmg sources + turrets. Anytime mate ❤️ u will beat 100 eaaassyyyy
For what it's worth, Baby With a Beard does crit, but since its damage isn't based on health it doesn't do much (About 1/5 of an Alien Eyes in my current playthrough) and can create a lot of lag, so it's not worth it unless you have a monster computer that can handle it and want that little extra damage.@@durandian
From the wiki: "Baby with a Beard's projectiles can Crit, Lifesteal, pierce, bounce do "normal" attack things. However, it does not work with Scared Sausage"
You should mention why you only have what items you need unlocked.. it is a big part of why so successful.
Ah I think i did didnt ? Its a guide for starters so I think I mentioned which heroes they need to unlock for this. I made this so both veterans and new players could do it
You should have combined ghost scepters in the early game. You would have earned several more hp without losing wave clear.
Its a guide for everyone to be able to do the infinite run so I didnt go with hardcore start. I made the infinite runs so I kinda set up the guide so both new and old players can do it 👍😊
Locking items in the shop doesn't mean you can't get them in crates - this was updated in latest patch and I have tested it. However if you lock unique items they wont show up anymore.
I'm thinking of locking candle, white flag and pocket factory
Yeah this was last patch so they fixed that . Etsy pocket factory and candle + white flag are good options to lock y
You really broke the endless with this build, such a great job! I'm currently looking for improvements but it seems it doesn't matter much after 500
Tnx mate ❤️ hope u enjoyed it 😘Yeah, but i never stopped getting items even after 500 just to be sure 😂🤣
Made it to 50. Got bum rushed by bosses and wasn't paying enough attn. Think that's as far as I'm willing to invest tho. Thanks for the tips!
My pleasure mate and nice job 🥰❤️ Speed is a big thing for after wave 30. U gotta go above 50% speed if u wanna run away from mobs and bosses
I’m a little late to the party, but maybe anyone can still answer.
I’m having really big troubles to meet the stats you said to achieve after wave 20. Especially the pick up range gives me lots of troubles. Besides that after wave 30 the prices get so insanely high, that it does not make sense to shop anymore, since the prices get so high, that I’m not increasing my health. Also I’m not getting any chests anymore, except for chests from bosses, around wave 30 onwards and luck does not seem to have any effect at all anymore. That’s a problem, because at this point I barely have enough items to survive boss waves and since everything moves so fast it seems impossible to dodge anything at all. That being said, damage is no problem, I kill everything very fast, but especially elites just move faster than I can kill them. And since most of the runs my pick up range is too low, it’s hard to instantkill them with explosions. They still die in 2-3 seconds, but they burn through the tardigrades like it’s nothing and at some point there are so many bosses, that even 2-3 seconds of them alive are too long to survive the wave. I feel like the run works very well, but only when everything works out and you get the items you need fast. I’m trying to follow the steps in the video, but am I missing something important/obvious? At this point it seems like I can’t get higher than wave 100 :(
I’m grateful for every tip and help. I would really like to reach wave 500 or something in that area.
U gotta increase ur movement speed to +80 then 160% really quick before u get past 100. Minimum 80 if u wanna live after wave 60. And for pick up range u can both buy the item that gives pick up range and then even buy the frogs which reduce dodge but give harvesting and pick up range . Those stats come together over time but u gotta rush as much as possible. So 800 pick up range is what u need but getting tp 300-400 will be a biiiig help u can 100% do it if u buy the frogs. U arent late i answer all comments 😂🤣😂 U can also join discord and livestreams , istream on utube every day
U can still buy good upgrade items after 30 but dont buy EVERYTHING . Gardens tardigrades pick up range and vigilante rings are good buys till wave 50. U gonna get everything u need from crates so dont worry that much and for more info u can read the other comments they asked mostly the same questions
@@durandian wow thank you so much for the fast response. I will keep that in mind. Your guide is very good and helpful btw. Thanks for all your effort and work :)
@@lukasmuller7736 my pleasure mate. Ask any questions on any guides u see I keep a look out to my community so u in good hands at least on indie games category 😄👍😘 glad u enjoy them
@@durandianSince you said I should just ask… ^^
I just read some stuff about endless tactics and some people said Excalibur is better for endless mode, since it scales way better with hp than potato thrower and you can increase its range so it basically becomes a ranged weapon. What’s your opinion on that?
Do you ever buy Torture so that you're constantly pulling in fruit?
Not really. It is a minor Itrm at some point so really doesnt matter if u take it or not. But it can backlash and get u killed before wave 100 150s
Can you explain why you don't take items like cyberball, baby elephant, baby with a beard, rip and tear? I find those items combine with spicy sauce to chain damage around the map, so fewer enemies attack you.
U only benefit from hunting Trophy if u kill an enemy with a critical hit and those items can not crit so u lose materials when cyberball or others get the kill. Its basic math behind it , those items reduce ur economy end game, by a high percentage
why somethimes the fruit from the garden come to the potato and sometimes never come and need step over the fruit ??
When u got full hp the fruit dont come to u
@@durandian oooooh that is awesome i dont know that, is perfect
@@abtolnksk897 glad it was helpful mate 👍😘
tbh i have learned more about the game than endless runs whit this lol. maybe i can beat danger 3 now.
Noooiiooosssss 👍🙅🤸💥
@@durandian danger 4 i mean my bad lol- cybork carried me trough 3. idk how and why but its nice
Cybork goes brrr brrrrrrr thats why 😂🤣😂 try doctor with scissors for danger 5 i think i have a guide for him. He was my first danger 5 back in the day
@@durandian happend to be my first run of the day and i got to wave 14 but then the game said no lol and just 3 shot me in 1 second. i dont even know what happend. then i tried medical gun instead and i got further but i didint had enough damage to make myself somespace. i dont want to know what danger 5 will be haha
🤣😂🤣😂 doctor gets 50% less armor so what u need is just scissors, 4 armor , 16 dmg on a lvl 1 acissor. 60 70% attack speed . 20 ish % dodge and when u have these just get him dmg and as much hp as possible and he will kinda be invincible
Wanted to say thanks this is the best guide ever even though I was already addicted to the game before I learned many things watching your guide. I had decent runs with demon before but only got up to like level 57 or something like that. After watching your vid, after more hours practicing, was able to put together a monster run am approaching wave 350 on the Xbox with no end in sight. I probably just jinxed myself though and will now die next wave. Thanks again. What's the current world record nowadays?
Its around 1600 I think. Thanks for the kind words mate ❤️ wish you could beat the record already and glad it was helpful
@@durandian Thanks again bro. You probably already know this but if you get atk speed up to 2390 or 3000 I think I didn't quite pay close attention, you can drop the spawn time of garden fruit down to 0 seconds. When I first saw my garden spawn was at 0 seconds I let out the dorkiest laugh ever cause now demon is even more unstoppable on endless. But again apologies if that is already a known tactic, if not try it out it's great!
@vpin damn 🤣😂🤣0 !!! Never seen that one. Brotato doesnt have decimal numbers so it is probbly not 0 . Its more of a 0.4 or less . Thanks for the information though it was funny 🤣
@@durandian LOL agreed most likely 0.04 speed or something similar to the potato thrower speed. Am on wave 750 my item and stats are ridiculous. Got like 72 tardigrades, 91 Grind leaves, 7100 splosion dmg, 3200 splosion size. Like you mentioned before you don't even see the enemies anymore they just die right at the spot of x spawn lol
How about Ritual, Focus and Spider (and maybe Fin since speed = dmg with Power Generator) - aren't these items also required to attempt high waves?
Also what's your record? Is it a world record right now? And is there any place with some kind of leaderboard where I can check how other players are doing in terms of attempting beating the world record?
Before wave 300 they are good but after some point in the game , u get ao many vigilante rings that u dont need any dmg % anymore so u just sell them and turn them into coins= hp which gets multiplied by 1000s of dmg% which then is multiplied by 100s of explosion dmg%. Take them till u have like 20 30 vigilante rings, then start selling them it doesnt matter anymore after some point.after wave 300 its just a matter of how fast i can do how many waves. My record is wave 800. Basically it was infinite but either ur pc is gonna die, brotato or it will make no sense to play anymore. I submitted my record to speedrun.com like 2 months ago. They havent posted it yet
Hey I am trying this strat. I get to wave 100 but at this point I haven't gotten any crates dropped outside of the ones that drop in boss waves. I can't exactly tell when, but at some point between wave 70 and 100 I stop getting crates. At this point buying items for life is too expensive, so I get barely any upgrades at all any more. How do you keep dropping so many crates? I have 1700 or so luck at this stage
After a certain point u stop getting crates from any kind of luck. I usually buy the lucky coin late so I get my crates when I have basic stuff so more valuable drops come from them
Did you end up finishing this run? If so, at what wave?
No i just reset it . I already have a run that im still alive on wave 800 but this run had a better start than that
Very nice, TY for share!!!
Glad u enjoyed it mate ❤️❤️👍👍👍
I did not understand from the video why one should lock 4 tier 1 items with stats one does not want in the shop. What is the benefit?
If u lock an item in the shop , u cant find them in crates , so it increases ur chance of getting better items that u need from crates that drop from mobs
@@durandiandoes it still work? I seem to find the items locked in the shop still
@zhit6139 yeah still fully functional guide. I am going live today and gonna break my own record this week 😄
My last 3 runs in a row ended on wave 68(ish) due to zero potato throwers lol.
U are being Arstatoed 😭
Is there any other brotato who can do this runs?
Right now, No . There is a 0.5% chance u can do it on Farmer 😄 with a different build
I am having the absolute most insane 0.01% run right now. I do not say this to be disrespectful, but I have about 30% better stats than you at wave 51, with FOUR EXCALIBURS, 3 of them found before wave 25. I don’t know what I did to deserve this but thank you for this video! I will say to anyone reading and wanting to try, there is still so much to learn even after watching. There is a lot of “why” to some of the rules he said that I didn’t understand until I failed a few times. I’ve tried this run about 50 times and have had decent runs (~wave 75) but NOTHING like this run so far.
And a fifth Excalibur locked at wave 71, although it costs 2100 hp so I’m gonna keep it locked until o build up more :)
AND A 6TH LOCKED AT WAVE 91!!! I know nobody cares about this but this is crazy!!!
This was literally the first try I did on recording the guide video so the potential of u guys getting better stats is much higher. Keep it up dude , even if u fail and die at some point just restart and start over. U will get an infinite run eventually. When u are done with this Just for the fun of it 🤣😂 check my channel for 0.01% farmer run, do that one after demon. Its a fun build too
Aaand niiiice 💥💥💥
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Tnx for watching mate 👍✌️❤️
Awesome vid!!!! 🧨
One question: how come you eat fruits if you are at full health?
Because it makes me explode equal to my hp multiplied by my dmg % multiplied by my explosion damage . Its a damage type from an item called Spicy sauce. Thats how u go infinite. Its that damage combo and tnks mate ❤️
Thx @durandian: yes I got that. What I wonder is how you consume the fruits by standing in one corner if you are at full health.
@@christianantonow1686 u can only consume them by walking over them. U cant attract them from far. That is why we buy the sad tomato that decreases our starting HP by50% . So we automatically eat fruits all the time
I messed up big time... I have the best endless run by far and I noticed that I dont have the fricking potato thorwers unlocked, because I played the lucky instead. Is there any way, that I can Pause my endless run, complete another and resume my endless run?
@@hollowcrow9041 to be honest no there are no ways around this. Trust me u gonna eventually have better runs than what you have so just restart the game and believe in urself
@@durandian yeah I just restared it like 10 Minuten after I wrote it. Currently in a perfect run at wave 205. I think I am outscaling at this point so I just have to play on
That titanic quote got me tearing up 🥲. Great video, I learned a lot!
happy to hear that you enjoyed it mate
27:31 is that so? I had blood donation and a bloody hand in the game, and at the same time the tardigrades were still working and zeroing out enemy attacks.
U lose 1 tardigrade every second when u get 1 or even 100 blood donations. The thing is , u cant have no tardigrades. Mobs will hit u for millions of dmg so u wanna not use them as much as possible so u can survive
@@durandianI’m pretty sure they fixed that, the blood donation/bloody hand damage doesn’t consume tartigrades for me, at least.
@dr.sunshine2967 havent checked that in a while but if it works that way thats fantastic but if it doesnt u are responsible for deaths of many potatoes 🤣😂 if i remember right donation and hand info says u take dmg every second so if it doesnt remove a tardigrade thats a bug . It works because its broken or they got to change the description of tardigrade
@@durandian I am willing to take that risk.
@@durandian no, I meant that the damage from blood donation, scythes and bloody hands do not waste tardigrades at all. I play on the premium mobile version and I know for sure that the same updates on PC and phone come at different times. Perhaps this feature was added to mobile devices earlier, but these items still spend tardigrades on PCs.
I attempted this a dozen times on mobile. Not getting hit is just not possible past wave 11 (for me at least). The controls just aren't precise enough. Weirdly I get a lot further with glutton doing pruners & landmines, then switching to potato launcher after wave 20 just to keep the enemies away from me so chain damage can take them out.
I havent tried the mobile game yet so I cant really tell u much mate. 😢
I'm new to brotato and managed to hit wave 100 on Android within the first 5 or so attempts. The first waves are definitely the hardest , after that you don't really have to anything anymore. Just run around. If I can do it, you can do it as well
Originally asked why it's harder for vets but you answered it near the end with the limited items lmao
Also, is it viable to AFK some of the waves later on? I imagine if so, this becomes much more feasible to hit the high 100s lol
At some point yeah it is just AFK , but in general after 200 300 it is so boring u feel like u want ur character to die 😂🤣😂
Im at wave 47 and ... I don't have any potato launcher (my luck: 802)
Sometimes brotato just doesnt wanna give it to u . Best of luck next time mate
What do you think about nuclear launchers instead of the potato thrower? As the explosion trait is so boosted already, would it not be better?
Doesnt work. It barely does 1% of the dmg u would do with potato throwers because explosion dmg is random shop item but HP is 100% gain every wave. If u wanna see how good nukelunchers can be go watch my stream on glutton world record 😂🤣 I just did it today. Im trying to go infinitte on glutton
Hello, whenever I play demon with ghost scepters, after a certain point (in the middle of 36th level) my HP stops increasing. It is so weird. Have you ever experienced something like that? (Fyi, i did not buy the shackle that limits the max hp)
U are probably killing everything with explosions and alien eyes. Sometimes u do so much dmg that the mobs die before scepter bullets can hit them
You are suffering from being too powerful 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
thank you so much your response, however, i am 100% sure i am not doing that because +1 max hp symbol appears arround my character, but the hp does not increase. I am sure that it is a bug but i couldnt understand why that happens. It is something like the garden doesnt work when you buy the item that creates a turret when you kill a tree and kill a tree
@@MustafaYasarr That is gotta be new after one of the minor updates. Uuughhhhh hope they fix it. The damn DLC will come out and I wish no bugs stay in the game after that
I don't get why everybody says worldrecord when its not a worldrecord
@@RomanGruber-j3r because once upon a time it was. Then it wasnt 🤣😂 there is a guy who did it for over 150 hours now
@durandian and how mamy waves dis he survive
I think it was 1600 2600 or something
At what speed do you feel confortable capping your speed with shackles ?
Nvm, you said +140%
I usually don’t buy Shackles, by the time you want to buy it, the HP Regen isn’t worth locking you out of late game damage scaling from power gen
Yeah 140 is my sweet spot for speed. U also still benefit from power generator dmg % after using shackles so feel free to do it so u remove another unique item from shop
Thanks for the guide, man. Is there any point where u stop taking dmg on the crates and u only sell all the items for economy? Got curious of what gives u more dmg (if heal or pure dmg)
Another question: How many tardigrades do u have in ur current run??
Yeah , at some point around wave 100iish items dont make much sense so u sell everything except dmg% explosion dmg and radius + gardens. U can also not sell the items that give Speed because Speed + Power generator = dmg %
Its just about stat management at some point.
@@durandian ty, I meant if there's any wave where u stop taking even the speed or damage items on the crates because the materials itself gives u life (which is converted into damage by the built) and it's not worth it to take them anymore. I'm almost at wave 400 with ur build and, by now, I already feel inmortal, but I don't want to mess it up, and I'm trying to maximize as much as possible
@@carlescasas3263 just grab a calculator , multiply ur hp by the dmg % u gonna get from the item , then check the price of the crate when u sell it and find out how many hp u get for the price of coins. Then see if its worth it or not. In my experience the dmg % u get is muuuuch muuch bigger than the hp u gonna get from selling crates.
@@durandian Okay, thank u a lot
Now i can use pockect factory?
I didnt see any hot fix note for it. But if u could find any proof that the bug is fixed sure why not. It is still broken i think. Please let me know if you get new info.
@@durandian Ok, i'am going to test the bug
Tnk yooou 😘
just to tell you Ranged Damage is scaling 100% with the scepter, so 3 Ranged Damage gets you 3 extra Damage per hit. If your weapon does a base damage of 30 5% more damage means 1,5 more damage. And Ranged Damage also scales with extra damage. So if you already got 30% extra damage 3 ranged damage gives you 4 more damage :)
Yeah but that doesnt scale nearly enough to be even considered as DMG in endless. Mobs get thousand plus hp boost. 1 ranged dmg is nothing u get more when u sell or save the coins u gonna invest in it
Hello ! Can you explain why bouncing is bad ? thank you
hellooooo ! It permanently reduces ur damage output by 50% after the first time it bounces. every time u get 1 more bounce / Richochet it is reduced by another 50% on the 2nd bounce and so on. u can end up doing 1 dmg if u buy enough of em :D
@@durandian and the bounces trigger before piercing right? So you loose all your piercing damages
Yes, exactly. It almost leaves no damage for pierce 😄
i see 1 thing, at the start, the scepter only give you life if 1 of the 6 scepter is what kill the 20 enemys, in that case not is better combine it if you can cleam with less of them? because if you have 3 rare scepter is more probably 1 scepter kill the neccesary enemys to give you life but with 6 common scepter is so difficult? or the kills is acumulative for the next wave? i dont understand good how the scepter work
Sometimes u dont get weapons for a few waves so when u combine them u reduce ur dmg. U got to keep in mind that ur best source of HP gain isnt the scepter kills , its coins. Dmg/ weapons = kills = coin = hp
Why do you never take peaceful bees which give 4% dodge which equals another 8% attack speed?
We dont get that much ranged dmg upgrades for the build so when u take them , specially in the first 20 waves it really reduces ur dmg. Dmg% alone cant help u have that explosive boss deleting speed
"I am hyperactive"
no shit :D
🤣😂🤣😂 Sorry " Very hyper active "
Lol i must be bad i don't know how you don't get one shoted with out 50% damage reduction from + armor :} well played.
I have suffered my way through becoming a dodge master 😂🤣😂❤️😂
im wave 33 and dont got an garden
that is very unlucky :(
Has the pocket factory bug been patched?
Not yet. Its still strong nad is there
Why you keep picking pickup range item after legendary item with 100percent material pickup? 🤔
Its for the fruits. I explode when I eat ao I needed like 2000 2500 pick up range . Sift relic doesnt effect the fruits. It only works for coins.
@durandian OH thanks... didn't thought there is a diiterence *hug from beginner
@pavelturek3629 hug back from other side of the world ❤️
How about buying Excalibur if it appears in the shop? If not then why?
Sure. 1 excalibur never hurts 😘😘
Why not take the other ethereal weapons at the start?
The only one that works is the Scepter . Others don`t work .
Am i idiot or something but how you can increase max hp after change all the ghost scepter into Potato thrower??
The character Demon (last character on the list) changes half of his coins into HP at the end of every wave . That makes the HP go up and scale infinitely
On the brotato wiki I saw that dynamites stacks additively with the damage (if you have a Dynamite and +30% damage, your explosive weapons will deal +45% damage in total).
So why do you prioritize 15% explosion damage over 25% from the cannon ?
Also I don’t understand why you don’t take triangle of power because you are not supposed to be hit once so it’s a free 20% damage no ?
it might say it like that but when u got 100 dmg and u get 10% dmg increase it becomes 110 , then explosions adds lets say 10% to it and it becomes 121. explosion dmg has a bigger impact on end game dmg than anything specially raw weapon dmg. u get 1 extra boss every 10 waves. my run is on wave 800 now so im getting A LOT of bosses , U WILL get hit a LOT :D so u will lose lets say 200% dmg if u get a 100 of those triangles PER hit. if u wanna make a +1000 wave run, just dont take them . not worth it
@@durandian The negative damage doesn't activate if you have a active tardigrade
@@Bssepeace on the time of recording this video that mechanic wasnt implemented
love it, but next time could you please shut off the explosions.
I didnt turn it off so newer players could see why things are dying 😄
Psst... like 12 days ago I posted a vid where I already hit wave 1001 xD
My run started 2 weeks ago, i promised some viewers i will only play it on livestream so im still on 800 , they will beat the record soon .After u know what to do , its just a matter of who got more time
@@durandian sadly, that is totally true ... I have no idea if the endless scaling ever catches up again^^
My son bought this game a few weeks ago Guess who plays it me 😂
😂😂🤣😂🤣👍👍 what kind of father would let their son suffer hardships . A true Hero
It's a tricksy game. But that's what supplies my insatiable urge for it! I'm on my last character to win on max danger. Probably not going to play endless. Seems too tedious for my taste. 😅
Join us Joooiiin Usssss u can noot beat us !!!
Do I use rip and tear
nvm i saw a commnet from 5 months ago
The comment section of this video is like a summery of the video 🤣😂🤣
lets go i got to wave 87
Damn, good job . Once u go past 150 u are done and will evolve into a new breed of potato 😁👍👍👍
But then why don't you buy more things?
You will then become weaker and your opponents will become stronger, so why?
U need to just buy things u really need , then the cost becomes too much , if u dont buy items and just keep stackings coins and turn them into HP u get more dmg and overall value
man i dont understand hate on ranged damage. Thats a flat damage which gets multiplied by damage% doesnt it work that way?
İt does but on this build u dont need it. İt gives u less dmg than just simply having more hp. Range dmg might help u till wave 20 but in general the flat dmg values get rekt after wave 20. The only thing that works is hp for dmg items because they scale much better.
So what is the current WR?
I think someone got to 1600. Some of my subs are trying too so eventually it is gonna go to 2000s 😂🤣😂🤣
ok
why ricochet is lose?
İlk vuruştan sonra damageni kalıcı olarak %25 azaltır. Bu yüzden kötüdür.
Why not Ricochet tho?
it reduces ur damage permanently . u can reduce piece damage reduction with pumpkins but u cant do the same with Richo. I tried it many times with Richochet , it is just bad .
Wow i got called out
😄
Why is ranged damage considered so bad?
No dmg source except HP and explosive dmg is scaling high enough to beat the Mob hp scaling. Its not bad , its just not good enough 😄
@@durandian thanks for the reply! I've just finished D5 with all the characters so i found this vid to help me take endless to the next level! one more question, why is bounce bad? is it because the bounce takes the projectile away from the nearest enemy? i always assumed bounce was better than piercing because it's automatically seeking
@@curtiswatson4192 my pleasure mate. Sorry for late reply im currently a bit off streaming because of some personal issues. The bounce permanently reduces ur dmg by 50% after the first hit so it just ruins ur game
Glad u are enjoying the content ❤️
@@durandian thanks so much i didn't actually know that! wonderful vids man thanks a tonne
1:48:00 ahahahaa CALLED ME OUT T_T
🤣😂🤣😂
Why not take ricochet?
Frame drop?
Reduced damage permanently by 25% after the first hit and u cant fix it
Why is bounce bad?
It reduces ur damage by 50% permanently after the first hit
@@durandian understandable
@@nickflamingdude2
Why Ricochet will ruin the run?
Reduces ur dmg by 50% after the first hit , permanently with no fixing
@@durandian But why isn't dat mention in the item description. I argued with another streamer about it, where he insited on 50% and I said, no it's only 35% dmg as the tooltip indicates. It was soo confusing.
@@KingAxel94 let me put it this way , this is the same for both pierce and richo .for example U do 10 dmg with 50 reducttion doesnt matter pierce or richo . First hit u do 10 dmg . 2nd bounce/pierce u do 5. 3rd u do 2.5 dmg and so on . Its simple. U can make pierce 0 % reduction so u do 10 dmg on all hits but richo has no reduction item so by taking it u reduce ur second hit and 3rd and so on permenantly lower
@@durandian
I’m pretty sure Ricochet is worth taking on this kind of run. Yes, what you’re saying is true about the damage penalty but the potato throwers eventually fall off in a the triple digit waves and you have to supplement with gardens.
I have noticed that on runs where I take Ricochet early, I ramp up much much faster in coins and health because I’m killing faster and out scaling to the point that the penalty doesn’t matter.
Attack speed in Endless doesn’t improve your weapon damage to an extent but you can think of Ricochet as an attack speed multiplier during the waves where your potato throwers can melt through hordes.
@@brandonkruse6412 in general , I never had a good experience taking ricochet on my runs , Im a good old fashioned pierce only guy . keep it simple make it work 🤣😂
if I had to criticise anything about this video, it would be that your way of speaking is very repetitive.
I'm kinda new to all of this , will work on it. Tnx for the feedback mate really appreciate it
For me. It's less repetitive (annoying) and.more shows how excited he is for the game. Which keeps me watching
I ve been playing this game for over 900 hours now, that excitement and thrill of another broken buuild is the reason i keep coming back to it + who wouldnt wanna be a potato with 6 guns!?😂🤣
Why not get more pickup range and weapon range?
@SirNoahBob mate u get more than that u gonna attract the sun out of the sKy 😂🤣
Your guide is amazing, but not perfect... When you have 1600% attack speed, ur garden cooldown is like 1.8 seconds. You need to get 2800 attack speed for it to be exactly 1 second. It even works after that making your gardens even faster if you increase ur attack speed further
Tnx mate. nothing is perfect :D perfect is boring. The stat menu says 1 second cooldown tho. is it a tooltip miscalculation ?!
@@durandian It is not a miscalculation. The game rounds the value down to the nearest whole number. At around 1400 it reads 1 second but in reality is 1.99 seconds. Thanks to your guide tho, I have a wave 300 run ongoing that I would't have been able to come up with myself
@@nicolash8735 aaaah i thought the numbers equal real value . Damn it brotato 😂🤣 nice job mate. Hope u get to +1000. Go Go go go go go 👍👍