Kept the Rooskies focussed for an equally long time. That's the point. The UKR forces keep playing Lucy with the football, and the Pootinistas keep running up to kick it.
I love how he says "the rest of the Western world". There is indeed little doubt that Ukraine is, or has become, part of the Western world, both by choice and by necessity.
Id re think that, the guy is a clown who is only spouting the narrative to get paid and his mug on TV while he can. When this is over he will have zero credibility so is milking what he can while he can. Seriously, dont listen to him. OR, listen to him, then listen to someone who knows what they taliking about
The degree to which Western media outlets consider Bakhmut strategically vital or strategically unimportant, is dependent on whether Ukraine is winning or Russia is winning.
I have a good friend who has lived in Poltava, eastern Ukraine, all her life. She swear she’d never even heard about Bakhmut until the fighting began last year! I imagine people will regard the senseless slaughter in Bakhmut with same disbelief as we now view the great battles of the WW1, as basically meaningless. Of course, the difference is that we now know exactly who is responsible for all the suffering and destruction in Bakhmut. And we know who will be held accountable.
Do you know how moronic this is? Ive never seen gettysburg but that was the greatest battle of the civil war. The towns unimportant. The important thing is Ukraine put ALL HOPE here and LOST
@@bryandimery6509 And the key to Gettysburg was about destroying CSA morale and combat power. I think this should be the tactic Russia uses against the Ukrainians.
@@MarkHewitt1978 Ridiculous comparison,the Ukrainian “front line” has vast and regular gaps where there are no troops to speak of,with hot spot areas being the pint of action and no more then 10,000 troops at most in the biggest area of fighting. The western front was a virtually continuous line manned by hundreds of thousands of men fighting in either side.
There is no way this man has any idea about what is happening on the ground. Does anyone get back to him months down to track to see how his predictions actually went?
@@Lindenrd25 They keep saying of no strategic importance. you control Bakhmut you control metal and lithium ores, and opens way point to taking gas fields to the west and launching points for te next 2 major cities. 50 trillion dollar worth of resources are at stake. Why are the US trying so hard for a Russia retreat, its always about resources. The oil fields are to the far west boardering Poland 20 trillion worth, when you look beyond these Uk bias videos you see a clearer picture. Not about the rubble
The Vietnam war lasted ten years for us Americans, what makes some people believe that the Ukraine Russia war will be over in two, that is crazy thinking my friends.
Not really because the Russian army are just in the East and South of the country with no chance of them now launching ground attacks in other parts of the country so Ukraine just has to push them back
Ukraine war start in 2014 but most of the Western woke people just take notice in 2022. the first phase is 2014, and now is the second phase, and the next phase (nuclear war)is dependent on what NATO wants to do, Russia is already preparing for the third phase back in 2014 by selling cheap oil and gas to Europe to get them hook and take a wild crazy idea of zero-emission, getting the western Europe people with the luxury of affluent lifestyles. would people in Western Europe want to go back to living a hard life just for the sake of the most corrupt country in Europe??
For God’s sake, can we step up our contributions?! We will save a FORTUNE in blood and treasure if we invest in Ukraine! Let’s STOP helping them to keep Russia at bey? Let’s give them what they need to WIN this war! They’ve PROVED they are responsible, worthy, courageous and better warriors acrosss the board! Please write to your MP’s? Anyone who tells you that’s a waste of time is misinformed! Slava Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
It's going to hurt a lot more if russia loses Bahkmut soon after all the fuss than if they had never taken it. Let's see them hold it (and let's hope they do, to tie them up there away from the important fronts about to develop).
they ground down Ukraine so much that I don't think they will do a counteroffensive to that town. again it's an insignificant town for Ukraine anyway, right? who is telling lies?
There is no doubt Ruzzia has its prize, a pile of rubble. Im not sure why the media thinks there is any doubt. Nobody has denied this . The battke of Bakhmut is not over though, simplessssss
What about the tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers soldiers slaughtered? Remember never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. The mistake in this case being to try to hold Bakhmut because you had grifted (and likely stolen) billions from the USA on the back of "Fortress Bakhmut". They kept coming and the Russians kept killing them. I think perhaps the Russians decided to end it for the year anniversary of Mariupol because it's a moral boost for the Russians and moral punch to the nuts for the Ukrainians just before the very ill advised, western demanded, "counteroffensive".
It was taken by untrained convict while the Wagner leader was screaming he doesn't have enough ammo. We sent $57+ billion in aid and this what we get? Zelensky in Japan and the city falls.
@@ragingmonk6080 LOL.....if this was only taken by untrained convicts...and this is literally the only advancement Russia has made in 5-6 months....then what have the rest of the actual Russian military been doing this whole time? Literally nothing?! Are you discrediting the RU military? Careful comrade....be very careful with your words here. LOL
This medium sized town has been fortified for 8 years, it only took Russia a year to take it, not to mention that during these times ukraine is getting more aid to add to the already existing preparations in this "medium sized town"
I deeply admire Prof Clarke but disagree on one little thing : ''Bakhmut not being strategic''. It has always been : a) an eastern fortress for brave UAF b) the wall to protect Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. c) Bakhmut was a stronghold for a future reconquest of Donbass. 🇺🇦🇪🇺💪
Honestly it’s like the bots are attacking our sensibilities by filling busting ridiculous comments. A life under a state controlled dystopian society well done to us we messed the future generations by doing the dumbest things to ourselves. End the War, End Poverties, End Greed, Promote Peace.
The Russian troll farms are desperate to the point of panic now. It won't be long before garden gnome Putin is forced to cancel their IT exemptions and draft them because he's once again out of cannon fodder.
@@dixonpinfold2582 most did, that's why millions of young men and women recruited themselves to fight the NEW AXIS OF EVIL. How could anyone forget 18 year old leaving colleges and their lives and lining up, to fight an eminent invasion by Iraq and Jihad forces. It's a shame that people have forgotten this sad tragedy.
Memo...Russia is not interested in teritorial gains. It is interested in demilitarising Ukraine and securing its borders. It has demilitarised not only Ukraine but also Europe, NATO and the US. The great proxy war cooked up by the warmongers in the Pentagon and NATO is not going too well is it?
@@Samb0o0o0 it was never the winter, nato was slow to send tanks. We get that you are pro kremlin, but don’t celebrate just yet. It might do you some good to be humble.
It's interesting that most US-UK press in 24 hours has admitted Bakhmut fell, while Zelensky himself says it's still being held by Ukrainian forces. Despite that, it still hasn't stopped many outlets from now claiming Bakhmut is "insignificant," now that the Russians have taken it.
I would actually argue that Bakhmut is strategically important for both parties. For the russians it is important because it gets them closer to the administrative border of the Donetsk oblast. As long as Ukraine is fighting on the western outskirts of the city the russians haven't reached that goal (no matter how much % of the territory they occupy). For the Ukrainians it is strategically important because the russians have committed their reserves there so every russian they know is there is a russian they don't have to look for elsewhere on the frontlines. They can target them because the town has been blown to pieces anyway and so as long as the meat grinder keeps grinding it's in Ukraines favour and Zelenskyy is right in saying it hasn't fallen, even though it technically might.
@@neKeiKoele It's clearly significan't despite what many are now saying. Russia clearly played up this rift between Wagner and the military; then Ukraine took they bait and put in tens of thousands of manpower and NATO weapons, only to be destroyed. All while the Russian's expended mostly a mercenary group and routed a force of atleat double it's size; with losses for Ukraine going up to tens of hundreds of thousands depending on sources.
Do you think putin would have had more success, should he have spent more effort training a real army rather than internet warriors and his army of fluffers ?🤔
If this city bakhmut is not significant and important at all why and how come ukraine keeps on defending it and make it a fotress like it is so precious Why not take back crimea mariapol and others for this past how many months fighting and defending bakhmut if it is not important at all..silly thinking
Bakhmut only mattered because it kept the Russians hyperfocoused and wasting their troops there. It's not important in the context of winning the war in fact it's probably better to let them have it for now and keep their forces pinned trying to hold the city.
@@happycarnivore5481 have a cry troll, Russia = Weakness. 9 months 70 k plus dead, tons of ammo, hundreds of tanks and artillery. The numbers are looking pretty good for Ukraine
This guy is a disgrace. Zelensky has previously stated Bakhmut was an important fortress and it will never fall. I mean, you can actually see videos of him saying that. How complicit are these guys? Ridiculous
All this comments are funny 😂 “Counteroffensive Soon” “A temporary victory for Russia” “ The Russian will regret it soon”…Russia won in Backmut, plain and simple, for now is the only reality.
So go and fight for Ukraine Omericanas we all all think and say they all can do it , but words is nothing .. Omericanas go die for ur boardline😂 and the best friend 🇺🇸
10 months to take a 10 square mile town, the Russian military continues to fail to impress. Second best army in the world? They are barely the second best army in Ukraine!
@@Samb0o0o0 If the Russian military wasnt so useless it would be 100%. Tells you how good the Germans were in WW2 taking the more than Ukraine in a few months
@@Samb0o0o0 : You guys are losing fast while believing you are advancing a little. It is hilarious. We don't need to cope Ivan, we just watch with popcorn to see your tank turret flying competition and your loss counter going up.
And there's been a Ukrainian breakthrough reported at Soledar, just to the North of Bakhmut...... initial reports are that Ukraine has advanced 6-7 kilometres behind Russian line's. Fingers Crossed 🍀
It's been days away for a while now. I hope this doesn't stagnate and go through another winter. Hopefully they can end this soon, that's probably very optimistic though.
Has this commentator not been paying attention? When he asks if it is a Pyrrhic victory for Russia if they spend to many resources defending Bahkmut, it already is a Pyrrhic victory as the Russians have lost as many as 70,000 troops and hundred of armored vehicles. Their offensive is now over. Ukraine achieved its goal of bleeding Russia.
Yep, BBQ’s may well be the solution we finally need for the Russian problem. My neighbours Russian but I’m planning on introducing his young kids to baseball. It’s a wonderful game to learn😂😂😂
ukaine may end up with a few planes, but they are running out of soldiers... whereas russia has a very deep well to tap. on top of that, the thieving of u.s. aid that is going on at the highest levels is undermining the illusion of legitimacy the west has spent so much capital creating.
The West doesn't fight like that. anymore. We more like to use as little as possible to win. Something we been asking Ukraine to do is use less but they are fighting for their country so it's understandble.
Just Remember the Allies in WW2 had Major failures. Market Garden was one of them. During the Normandy landing 50k were killed during this battle but the push to take the beachhead was not a option. If Europe only counts failure then Ukraine is lost. I don't recall FDR demanding any military success from Churchill when the US provided the Lend-lease arms to Britton.
The reason England does not speak German is because they had Russia on their side. Most of the big brutal fighting and the best German armies were in the east.
@@ledzepandhabs You fogot the Battle of Britain in 1940, plus the Royal Navy back then was the most powerful it had ever been. That put paid to Operation Sealion to invade UK. German navy stayed bottled up. Britain sent enormous supplies to Russia in arctic convoys. Your claim is exaggerated. An ALLIED effort rescued Europe. British and U.S. bombers flattened Germany.
I think the Ukrainian offensive proper is still possibly a few weeks away as Kyiv looks to discover what Russian reserves and logistics need to be further 'shaped'. Importantly there needs to be more Western-supplied heavy hitters arriving and they can further draw Russians away from their main axes with some more maskirovka.
@@lumo7461 A few million Russian young men have bailed on the Rodina and most of those they have left are not even ethnic Russians and they *really really do not want* to go fight in this futile war to restore Russia's 'Imperial Glory', a war they actually lost in front of Kviv in March of '22.
The mercenaries paid to "tag" Bakhmut have done so. Now they have no reason to stay, they are leaving. They have leveled an entire city, and the lives of everyday citizens and children and doctors offices and schools and libraries and daycare centers....what a heroic mission...now back to jail or cartels of some sort ...?
The best thing about the Russians is they destory the town as the move foward so they have no buildings to hold the counter attack off. So they will lose Bakhmut much faster than they could take it.
@@happycarnivore5481 Fighting a war like Starlingrad is why Russia is struggling. You can't hide from drones ect in rubble. Now a Ukrianian tank can see across 5 blocks there no where to hide anymore.
@@happycarnivore5481 One sides tech seems to be good and doing what it was said to be able to do then theres Russia, everything even down to the troops is 10x worse that said to be. Ukraine has also had very strict rules on what they are allowed to do if they want continued supplys Can you really use the word "IF" when it has taken Russia over a year to take 1 medium sized town and lost from 30-100k for it. The thing with this war is Russia has had and used most of its tech, Where as Ukraine is only just getting tanks and soon planes and more if it continues. All Russia has left is manpower and Nukes.
It's amazing how many men and equipment the ruZzians sacrificed for no real point, and it's amazing they are not realising this just accelerates their demise.
@@WHS_reviews Look at the war maps a stats put out by both Russia and Ukraine - not at the garbage posted by the BBC. Ukraine has lost men in a ratio of 7:1 throughout this conflict. Russian casualties are quite low because they have overwhelming artillery and air defence superiority. This has been a catastrophe for Ukraine.
I remember when Zelenskiy announced fate of Bakhmut will decide the war and when he announced Ukraine will regain Crimea by the end of spring. Common guys, there is no big offensive, Ukraine doesn't have man for that
@@garyhopkins9275 Russia IS the second best army in the world. First one lost to Jihadists wearing sandals in Avgust of 2021 which clearly shows there is no perfect army. I feel sorry for Ukrainians but that's the (sad) reality. There is no such thing as winning this war for them
It is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled. The West and Ukraine supporters still believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
So Russia might have to send more troops to hold a city of no importance while as the same time Ukraine will be trying to re-take cites which have importance where those troops would be needed .Ukraine might have not wanted to retake Bakhmut they wanted Russia to take it.
My opinion of Russia's military is formulated by my own experience in the US army infantry. The Ohio national guard would crush them inside 72 hours. F×cking joke is what they are. Pathetic.
German tanks rolling East again. Can't wait....Ob’s stürmt oder schneit, Ob die Sonne uns lacht, Der Tag glühend heiß Oder eiskalt die Nacht, Verstaubt sind die Gesichter, Doch froh ist unser Sinn, Ja unser Sinn. Es braust unser Panzer Im Sturmwind dahin.
Wish the commentators would stop with the demand that Ukraine must achieve a dramatic victory in their counter offensive to keep getting western support. In WW2 the allies lost the battle for Norway, suffered huge losses at Dieppe, failed badly in trying to reach a bridge too far and no doubt suffered many other defeats but they didn't stop fighting the war. Russia is running lower and lower in terms of stocks of tanks and trained tank crews and is firing far fewer shells as though the country is worried about running out of shells and seems to desperately be using up every non-ballistic missile In its stores trying (and failing) to discourage Ukraine from continuing to fight and is going to have a more and more difficult time trying to get new troops to go to Ukraine and most importantly is quickly running through its foreign reserves and according to some reports will be out of those reserves by this time next year which will make it virtually impossible for Russia to continue fighting the war. Even if Ukraine does not achieve an overwhelming victory with its offensive it does not mean that Ukraine won't win the war. And the worst thing for long term peace would be if Russia was allowed to keep more territory it seized in its current invasion.
Who the he'll is this guy. He's not even a soldier. He's just a commentator. He's not even in the front line. He is just guessing relying on other media, and he's giving expert opinion? Unbelievable!
ofcourse its just a talk, zelensky is waiting for f16, that will take the pilots to be trained for 3 years and if the person that to be trained has a High IQ it will only take about 12-18months.. if the counteroffensive will happen next week or next month who will be the pilot?its going to be a NATO countries.
@@vladimirprotein1275 The only difference is Russian Ruin this year or next, hunger, "Z" patriots murdering and LITERALLY EATING each other. But don't worry......have some "Russian Christmas Dinner" 🥣💩
Battles that change the course of wars don't necessarily have to be fought in strategic locations: Saratoga and Gettysburg. Training the Ukrainians to use F-16s will take months.
Imagine being happy that Russia took a whole year to take a small town. 😐 It's a complete shambles. People thought Ukraine would fall within a few weeks. It's now got to a point where Russian supporters think Ukraine losing Bakhmut is a massive blow. How the mighty have fallen.
Ukraine annouces a counter-offensive like some kind of a party, they've kept me waiting for so long
Deception is a valid strategy in war. Do you think they will tell Russia when they will attack? Share the date and time so they can be ready?
It's all deception, what is put out to the public is not reality. "all war is deception"-Sun Tzu
Kept the Rooskies focussed for an equally long time. That's the point. The UKR forces keep playing Lucy with the football, and the Pootinistas keep running up to kick it.
Or it might never be realized like Half-Life 3.
@@mng8680 agree
Supporting Ukraine and its people.
I love how he says "the rest of the Western world". There is indeed little doubt that Ukraine is, or has become, part of the Western world, both by choice and by necessity.
We dont really care what happens to Ukraine, it's just business.
@@happycarnivore5481 speak for yourself, boy.
@@karsten11553 That is the reality. Most of us have our own lives and issues. Govts play politics, the people far less so.
@@karsten11553 Go and join up if you care. If not, why not?
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When Micheal speaks. I listen to the end. Great insight. Thanks again. 🇨🇦
I trust Prigozhin more. He does what he says, not the endless bla, blah... Ukrainian offensive...blah, blah... shovels... blah, blah...
Brainwashed conditioned..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@johnkalulukalulu9521 think they brought the goats home and put them in parlument
Oh yeah, a couple of weeks ago he said he was gonna leave Ukraine until Shoigu said he’d shoot them all if they did😂😂😂
Id re think that, the guy is a clown who is only spouting the narrative to get paid and his mug on TV while he can. When this is over he will have zero credibility so is milking what he can while he can. Seriously, dont listen to him. OR, listen to him, then listen to someone who knows what they taliking about
The degree to which Western media outlets consider Bakhmut strategically vital or strategically unimportant, is dependent on whether Ukraine is winning or Russia is winning.
Exactly.
Ok Comrade
@Richard Authen The real prize was 40k dead elite Ukranian soldiers
Hit the nail.
Bakhmut has been wiped from the map. Only crossroads and rubble remain.
I have a good friend who has lived in Poltava, eastern Ukraine, all her life. She swear she’d never even heard about Bakhmut until the fighting began last year! I imagine people will regard the senseless slaughter in Bakhmut with same disbelief as we now view the great battles of the WW1, as basically meaningless. Of course, the difference is that we now know exactly who is responsible for all the suffering and destruction in Bakhmut. And we know who will be held accountable.
Both sides.
@@happycarnivore5481 wrong answer troll.
Bakhmut is a strategic city, Russia now control the roads and links furth into Ukraine, especially Kiev lol
Do you know how moronic this is? Ive never seen gettysburg but that was the greatest battle of the civil war. The towns unimportant. The important thing is Ukraine put ALL HOPE here and LOST
@@bryandimery6509 And the key to Gettysburg was about destroying CSA morale and combat power. I think this should be the tactic Russia uses against the Ukrainians.
The one expert I would always want to listen to. Masterful analyses.
Who constantly gets it wrong at every turn.
@@bryanbelshaw7725 no, that’s Douglas mcgregor you’re thinking of
Who says Ukraine could kick Russia out ....really how.
In my expert opinion as a armchair general using a little discernment this offense isn’t going far and they have no chance of kicking the Russians out
You cannot beat Michael Clarke Russia can only dream of such educated commentators
Comes from someone who was born 5 months ago
Russia has one in charge.
@@dalecrocker3213 You mean Got charged
Conjurers and copium
He is just a government mouthpiece. Most of what he says is verifiable nonsense.
Sky News reported earlier, the front line is equivalent to London to Barcelona. Thats a lot of ground to cover.
And much longer than the Western Front in the First World War
@@MarkHewitt1978 Ridiculous comparison,the Ukrainian “front line” has vast and regular gaps where there are no troops to speak of,with hot spot areas being the pint of action and no more then 10,000 troops at most in the biggest area of fighting.
The western front was a virtually continuous line manned by hundreds of thousands of men fighting in either side.
It sounds like he's from Barcelona
@@des_smith7658 Sometimes I feel like I'm in Barcelona
@@MarkHewitt1978 just don't mention the war
SLAVA UKRAINI 💪💪💪
F Ukriane Slava Russia. When Trump wins takeover!! Ok now go cry
@Pooh Bear Slava Cocaina 🦄
There is no way this man has any idea about what is happening on the ground. Does anyone get back to him months down to track to see how his predictions actually went?
He predicted the Krimina winter offensive - what happened to that?
Of course not, none of these talking heads do. Their job is to tell us that Ukraine is winning the war.
Simple fact Bakhmut has fallen, the rest is hot air. But I like the enthusiasm for Ukraine
So tens of thousands dead to "take" a pile of rubble. Bravo.
"Enthusiasm for Ukraine"
In other words, non balanced bias propaganda.
@@Lindenrd25 They keep saying of no strategic importance. you control Bakhmut you control metal and lithium ores, and opens way point to taking gas fields to the west and launching points for te next 2 major cities. 50 trillion dollar worth of resources are at stake. Why are the US trying so hard for a Russia retreat, its always about resources. The oil fields are to the far west boardering Poland 20 trillion worth, when you look beyond these Uk bias videos you see a clearer picture. Not about the rubble
Don't worry, Steiner's counteroffensive will bring it all under control
Hardly something to brag about, the second biggest army in the world, pays a mercenary force to take out a tiny city, and it takes a year, pathetic
And wastes 50-60,000 Ukrainazis in the process.
Happy days!
@Living Tribunal sorce trust me bro
@@livingtribunal4110 lolllll, information source for these stats?😂
Kinda like the French having a foreign legion 🤔
All those Russian mothers will be crying of Wagner volunteers?
And a pmc group is able to defeat a NATO trained military with NATO weapons....even more humiliating for NATO.
Love the spin! At least Sky and the BBC are saying that the offensive could be long way off!
The Vietnam war lasted ten years for us Americans, what makes some people believe that the Ukraine Russia war will be over in two, that is crazy thinking my friends.
Yes, they're still there but you're all gone
Not really because the Russian army are just in the East and South of the country with no chance of them now launching ground attacks in other parts of the country so Ukraine just has to push them back
If Ukraine were able to attack proper inside Russia it could be over quicker but there is risks with that aswell
Instead of fighting over it, we’ve just bought it😂😂😂
Ukraine war start in 2014 but most of the Western woke people just take notice in 2022. the first phase is 2014, and now is the second phase, and the next phase (nuclear war)is dependent on what NATO wants to do, Russia is already preparing for the third phase back in 2014 by selling cheap oil and gas to Europe to get them hook and take a wild crazy idea of zero-emission, getting the western Europe people with the luxury of affluent lifestyles. would people in Western Europe want to go back to living a hard life just for the sake of the most corrupt country in Europe??
What great analysis put simple and to the point 👍
For God’s sake, can we step up our contributions?! We will save a FORTUNE in blood and treasure if we invest in Ukraine! Let’s STOP helping them to keep Russia at bey? Let’s give them what they need to WIN this war! They’ve PROVED they are responsible, worthy, courageous and better warriors acrosss the board! Please write to your MP’s? Anyone who tells you that’s a waste of time is misinformed! Slava Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
How embarrassing for Russia if Ukraine manages to take Bahkmut in less than 11 months 😂😂😂😂😂
Goat 🐐 herders of Afghanistan defeated USA - Nato coalition with AK 47 ‘s u think they will defeat Wagner in Bakhmut? Sorry for watching fake news
It's going to hurt a lot more if russia loses Bahkmut soon after all the fuss than if they had never taken it. Let's see them hold it (and let's hope they do, to tie them up there away from the important fronts about to develop).
they ground down Ukraine so much that I don't think they will do a counteroffensive to that town. again it's an insignificant town for Ukraine anyway, right? who is telling lies?
There is no doubt Ruzzia has its prize, a pile of rubble.
Im not sure why the media thinks there is any doubt.
Nobody has denied this .
The battke of Bakhmut is not over though, simplessssss
Lol you are clueless man watch them advence more in next 6 months
Well one thing is fact, the Ukrainians couldnt hold it, so time will tell I guess.
@@tommytomas-fr3sh that would be you “Tommy.” You’re telling lies. Your name’s not even Tommy so we can start right there.
More than a year to take a medium sized town. Very impressive, Mr. Putler!
What about the tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers soldiers slaughtered?
Remember never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
The mistake in this case being to try to hold Bakhmut because you had grifted (and likely stolen) billions from the USA on the back of "Fortress Bakhmut".
They kept coming and the Russians kept killing them.
I think perhaps the Russians decided to end it for the year anniversary of Mariupol because it's a moral boost for the Russians and moral punch to the nuts for the Ukrainians just before the very ill advised, western demanded, "counteroffensive".
It was taken by untrained convict while the Wagner leader was screaming he doesn't have enough ammo. We sent $57+ billion in aid and this what we get? Zelensky in Japan and the city falls.
@@ragingmonk6080 LOL.....if this was only taken by untrained convicts...and this is literally the only advancement Russia has made in 5-6 months....then what have the rest of the actual Russian military been doing this whole time? Literally nothing?! Are you discrediting the RU military? Careful comrade....be very careful with your words here. LOL
id say it a large pile of rubble filled with tonnes of free russian fertilizer
This medium sized town has been fortified for 8 years, it only took Russia a year to take it, not to mention that during these times ukraine is getting more aid to add to the already existing preparations in this "medium sized town"
I can't agree. Russia is going to win, or get favorable negotiations.
I deeply admire Prof Clarke but disagree on one little thing : ''Bakhmut not being strategic''. It has always been : a) an eastern fortress for brave UAF b) the wall to protect Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. c) Bakhmut was a stronghold for a future reconquest of Donbass. 🇺🇦🇪🇺💪
Honestly it’s like the bots are attacking our sensibilities by filling busting ridiculous comments. A life under a state controlled dystopian society well done to us we messed the future generations by doing the dumbest things to ourselves. End the War, End Poverties, End Greed, Promote Peace.
The Russian troll farms are desperate to the point of panic now. It won't be long before garden gnome Putin is forced to cancel their IT exemptions and draft them because he's once again out of cannon fodder.
And stop nato expansion
"The aim is that the War should continue".....
End disease, save the whales, cool the earth, ponies and candy for EVERYONE!!!!!
These are the slogans Commies use since Marx. Will not happen, because these are empty words.
The ground east of Bakhmut is high ground as well. It falls quickly looking east as well giving it a strategic advantage. Check the topi map.
Kiev is about to be pounded by artillery, zelensky won't go anywhere near it now lol.
@@lumo7461 hes not going back to Ukraine, been a month gate crashing meetings in his green sweatshirt
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Ukraine will Never Give Up Its Land..It will take back any land stolen by Russia.💪
Sure, just wait for counter strike 😂
COPIUM setting in hard right now
How are you helping? Perhaps you have the Ukrainian flag on your Facebook page?!
@@Browz1 The cheerleaders are the worst friends imaginable. If they were in million dollar baby, theyd never throw in the towel.
@@Browz1 That will do it 🤣
That time you thought you took a town, before you realised you just walked into a trap.......
Jesus Christ, westerners will believe anything. WMD, anyone? 😂
@@HS-ie8tj Most Westerners did not believe the claims about WMDs.
@@dixonpinfold2582 most did, that's why millions of young men and women recruited themselves to fight the NEW AXIS OF EVIL.
How could anyone forget 18 year old leaving colleges and their lives and lining up, to fight an eminent invasion by Iraq and Jihad forces.
It's a shame that people have forgotten this sad tragedy.
Great report!
There is no "surrounding of Bakhmut" and those area's captured by Ukraine last week came to a stall just 24 hours after it started.
Wrong place to be posting the truth mate. People posting here are after fantasy
Ukraine has 461 cities. It took the Russians 11 months to "maybe" have taken ONE and lost over 100.000 Russians completing so! lol
Memo...Russia is not interested in teritorial gains. It is interested in demilitarising Ukraine and securing its borders. It has demilitarised not only Ukraine but also Europe, NATO and the US. The great proxy war cooked up by the warmongers in the Pentagon and NATO is not going too well is it?
It's not about the numbers, it's about sending a message.
@@Samb0o0o0 it was never the winter, nato was slow to send tanks.
We get that you are pro kremlin, but don’t celebrate just yet.
It might do you some good to be humble.
@@Samb0o0o0 Ukraine stopped attacking after they took «Russian forever» Kherson back in November.
@@Ghostprocedure1 I never said they were. Russia said they are.
This is only your hope Mr. Clarke.
It's interesting that most US-UK press in 24 hours has admitted Bakhmut fell, while Zelensky himself says it's still being held by Ukrainian forces. Despite that, it still hasn't stopped many outlets from now claiming Bakhmut is "insignificant," now that the Russians have taken it.
I would actually argue that Bakhmut is strategically important for both parties. For the russians it is important because it gets them closer to the administrative border of the Donetsk oblast. As long as Ukraine is fighting on the western outskirts of the city the russians haven't reached that goal (no matter how much % of the territory they occupy).
For the Ukrainians it is strategically important because the russians have committed their reserves there so every russian they know is there is a russian they don't have to look for elsewhere on the frontlines. They can target them because the town has been blown to pieces anyway and so as long as the meat grinder keeps grinding it's in Ukraines favour and Zelenskyy is right in saying it hasn't fallen, even though it technically might.
@@neKeiKoele It's clearly significan't despite what many are now saying. Russia clearly played up this rift between Wagner and the military; then Ukraine took they bait and put in tens of thousands of manpower and NATO weapons, only to be destroyed. All while the Russian's expended mostly a mercenary group and routed a force of atleat double it's size; with losses for Ukraine going up to tens of hundreds of thousands depending on sources.
They claimed that ages ago.
Why do you need a counter offence if you are winning
Michael! What a great war/political analyst. He really is talented at breaking this stuff down.
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Like he said Ukraine will break through p66 highway since November
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@@onyekwelucletus7644 sight when and provide a link or you are a fool doing what fools do best. stumbling and bumbling along in poverty and stupidity
@@onyekwelucletus7644 : is that a fact Ivan?
Do you think putin would have had more success, should he have spent more effort training a real army rather than internet warriors and his army of fluffers ?🤔
If this city bakhmut is not significant and important at all why and how come ukraine keeps on defending it and make it a fotress like it is so precious
Why not take back crimea mariapol and others for this past how many months fighting and defending bakhmut if it is not important at all..silly thinking
Bakhmut only mattered because it kept the Russians hyperfocoused and wasting their troops there. It's not important in the context of winning the war in fact it's probably better to let them have it for now and keep their forces pinned trying to hold the city.
It allowed the Ukrs to get their boys KIA and WIA, it is a numbers game Ukraine cannot win. The Juden said it would never fall, so what happened?
@@happycarnivore5481 : hey kid, shouldn't you be preparing for a test? If you fail you will be grounded for a month.
@@happycarnivore5481 have a cry troll, Russia = Weakness. 9 months 70 k plus dead, tons of ammo, hundreds of tanks and artillery. The numbers are looking pretty good for Ukraine
@@WHS_reviews I am in my 50's.
@@darkbunny7948 Sorry sounds like you are the troll. I am Australian and no Slav or Russian heritage.
Yeah im sure their magical offensive is doing great, right after they lost tens of formations in Bakhmut, the city you claimed would "never fall"
*Watching Russia LOSE is very satisfying.*
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Seems only you see this 😅
@@magratea123 all civilised people see it, and it’s glorious
@@magratea123 I see dead people. They’re called Russians.
Why is he bullshitting? Ukraine is not anywhere in Bakhmut. This is cope.
If the ukranians can not even kick out a group of prisoners out of a small city, then what are the chances of kicking them out od ukraine?
Oddly, they've been drawing them forward. I wonder if a chef like Prigozhin is familiar with the battle of Cannae? Ukranian staff probably are.
Why is no reporters in bahkmut
No hotels left to stay - not any buildings left to stay in.
The actor will not allow it, it would be a financial disaster if the truth got out about how things are really going in Ukraine.
😭 Brits are copping harder then Ukrainians themselves
send this man to the nurse he need help for his emotional damage
This guy is a disgrace. Zelensky has previously stated Bakhmut was an important fortress and it will never fall. I mean, you can actually see videos of him saying that. How complicit are these guys? Ridiculous
Please this a RUclips comment section. There is no place for rational thought here.
Well it kinda worked FANTASTICALLY on the Russians and their "TV Expert's".
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE for western media😂😂😂
What exactly does this statement mean ?
@@gregorysurovoi3968 i don't think it is a statement
All this comments are funny 😂 “Counteroffensive Soon” “A temporary victory for Russia” “ The Russian will regret it soon”…Russia won in Backmut, plain and simple, for now is the only reality.
Come on Ukraine. You can do this. 🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲🇺🇦
Money laundering by the elite? They are experts.
So go and fight for Ukraine Omericanas we all all think and say they all can do it , but words is nothing .. Omericanas go die for ur boardline😂 and the best friend 🇺🇸
10 months to take a 10 square mile town, the Russian military continues to fail to impress. Second best army in the world? They are barely the second best army in Ukraine!
20% ukraine is under Russian control.
Cope 😂
@@Samb0o0o0 If the Russian military wasnt so useless it would be 100%. Tells you how good the Germans were in WW2 taking the more than Ukraine in a few months
@@Samb0o0o0 : You guys are losing fast while believing you are advancing a little. It is hilarious. We don't need to cope Ivan, we just watch with popcorn to see your tank turret flying competition and your loss counter going up.
@@WHS_reviews Who's counting the losses and who is flattening Ukrainian cities?
Last year on a month Russia lost 10,600 Sq km to the Ukrainians- not looking good for the Orcs.
And there's been a Ukrainian breakthrough reported at Soledar, just to the North of Bakhmut...... initial reports are that Ukraine has advanced 6-7 kilometres behind Russian line's. Fingers Crossed 🍀
really!? thats impressive if they could take Soledar while most Wagner is in whats left of Bakhmut... that will make chaos!
link?
good, but its only really worthwile if it means isolating the russian troops massed in and around Bakhmut.
I heard the Ghost of Kiev is providing close air support.
@@QwadLuzr What is «Kiev»
Look like something coming unexpected as they withdraw their troops away, bless them both as humans
Well, grab the popcorn and take your seats, let's see what happens.
We will not need a microwave soon. It will pop by itself😢
It's been days away for a while now. I hope this doesn't stagnate and go through another winter. Hopefully they can end this soon, that's probably very optimistic though.
This man speaks dangerous pro-Ukraine propaganda, encouraging more support and ultimately more futile Ukrainian deaths.
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Has this commentator not been paying attention? When he asks if it is a Pyrrhic victory for Russia if they spend to many resources defending Bahkmut, it already is a Pyrrhic victory as the Russians have lost as many as 70,000 troops and hundred of armored vehicles. Their offensive is now over. Ukraine achieved its goal of bleeding Russia.
Let them be trapped inside of that cage 😉
Come into my parlour said the spider to the fly.
#SupportUkraine
Ukrainian F16s can refuel over NATO airspace.
I hope you gonna pay those F16s not me!
@@amandarussack8591 you wouldn’t even help buy a tire for it. Calm down. The jet is worth more than you are.
If all you care about is money. 😘
@@amandarussack8591 : don't worry Ivan, ruZzia is not yet paying for F16s. But you guys will be paying for everything later...
Where are they going to park them?
@@skillbopster Where they park the other 30 migs. Are you ok?
Michael Clarke is fab! More of him please!
He is a lier not telling you the truth
He’s great
@@supertuscans9512 Nope.
Yep, BBQ’s may well be the solution we finally need for the Russian problem.
My neighbours Russian but I’m planning on introducing his young kids to baseball. It’s a wonderful game to learn😂😂😂
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Learn to cope, Olga. How are you going to handle life once the PLA annexes whatever's left of Russia?
the Telegraph announced the start of the counteroffensive two weeks ago, what happened?
it isn't perception that maters, it is what actually happens.
If you can read a map you can see the Russians arent encircled
Yeah but Michael Jordan is better than Jesus
God bless Russia and Putin
God bless Ukraine and Zelensky 🇺🇦🇺🇦
@@gloriajohnson3865 comedic puppet zelensky 🤡💯
6:35 min ... interesting distinction to think about: the military vs political success and or failure; outcome perception over time frames involved.
What a crock of word salad
ukaine may end up with a few planes, but they are running out of soldiers... whereas russia has a very deep well to tap. on top of that, the thieving of u.s. aid that is going on at the highest levels is undermining the illusion of legitimacy the west has spent so much capital creating.
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I believe the West now understands the threat posed by Russia and that even a failed counteroffensive won’t dampen support for Ukraine.
The Ukrainians must just completely level it from a distance and the Russians with it, provided all Ukrainian civilians have left
The West doesn't fight like that. anymore.
We more like to use as little as possible to win.
Something we been asking Ukraine to do is use less but they are fighting for their country so it's understandble.
Wow.. no shame. "Ukraine winning!, Ukraine winning!, Ukraine winning!, well it wasn't that important anyway.
Just Remember the Allies in WW2 had Major failures. Market Garden was one of them.
During the Normandy landing 50k were killed during this battle but the push to take the beachhead was not a option.
If Europe only counts failure then Ukraine is lost.
I don't recall FDR demanding any military success from Churchill when the US provided the Lend-lease arms to Britton.
The reason England does not speak German is because they had Russia on their side. Most of the big brutal fighting and the best German armies were in the east.
@@ledzepandhabs You fogot the Battle of Britain in 1940, plus the Royal Navy back then was the most powerful it had ever been. That put paid to Operation Sealion to invade UK. German navy stayed bottled up. Britain sent enormous supplies to Russia in arctic convoys. Your claim is exaggerated. An ALLIED effort rescued Europe. British and U.S. bombers flattened Germany.
I think the Ukrainian offensive proper is still possibly a few weeks away as Kyiv looks to discover what Russian reserves and logistics need to be further 'shaped'. Importantly there needs to be more Western-supplied heavy hitters arriving and they can further draw Russians away from their main axes with some more maskirovka.
Reserves!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 They haven't even commited a quarter of their force's yet you mug lol
@@lumo7461 Oh yes they have. Their main elite forces were killed off ages ago. That is why they had to get cannon fodder from their prisons.
@@lumo7461 A few million Russian young men have bailed on the Rodina and most of those they have left are not even ethnic Russians and they *really really do not want* to go fight in this futile war to restore Russia's 'Imperial Glory', a war they actually lost in front of Kviv in March of '22.
@We_Waz_Kangz🇷🇺 Freedom to the Belgorod People's Republic! 😃
@@Nebris Lol.
The mercenaries paid to "tag" Bakhmut have done so. Now they have no reason to stay, they are leaving. They have leveled an entire city, and the lives of everyday citizens and children and doctors offices and schools and libraries and daycare centers....what a heroic mission...now back to jail or cartels of some sort ...?
No different to what the Ukrs did in the Donbas then?
Bakhmut still belongs to Ukraine!
Aka Pizzahut
Just like Afghanistan belongs to nato ? What dope ur smoking 😢
@@johnkalulukalulu9521 technically it's in Ukraine.? Go figure
Wheres the proof?
4:56 really tugged a heart string.
Keep dreaming.
The best thing about the Russians is they destory the town as the move foward so they have no buildings to hold the counter attack off. So they will lose Bakhmut much faster than they could take it.
Rubble proved to be better defensive terrain than buildings in places like Stalingrad and Monte Cassino.
@@happycarnivore5481 Fighting a war like Starlingrad is why Russia is struggling. You can't hide from drones ect in rubble.
Now a Ukrianian tank can see across 5 blocks there no where to hide anymore.
@@facts9538 Both sides have that technology. Russia still holds the ground, if Russia is struggling then Ukraine is even worse off.
@@happycarnivore5481 One sides tech seems to be good and doing what it was said to be able to do then theres Russia, everything even down to the troops is 10x worse that said to be.
Ukraine has also had very strict rules on what they are allowed to do if they want continued supplys
Can you really use the word "IF" when it has taken Russia over a year to take 1 medium sized town and lost from 30-100k for it.
The thing with this war is Russia has had and used most of its tech, Where as Ukraine is only just getting tanks and soon planes and more if it continues.
All Russia has left is manpower and Nukes.
@@facts9538 Time will tell. But so far the Russians are the ones holding "Ukrainian" territory.
It's just amazing what a bunch of convicts armed with shovels can achieve.
It's more amazing what a well-planned trap can achieve
They suffered horrible casualties on a scale that would be unacceptable to civillised countries
True, they’ve done far more than the rest of the Russian army put together. Money is a great motivator.
It's amazing how many men and equipment the ruZzians sacrificed for no real point, and it's amazing they are not realising this just accelerates their demise.
@@WHS_reviews Look at the war maps a stats put out by both Russia and Ukraine - not at the garbage posted by the BBC. Ukraine has lost men in a ratio of 7:1 throughout this conflict. Russian casualties are quite low because they have overwhelming artillery and air defence superiority. This has been a catastrophe for Ukraine.
Ukraine counter offence has started from giving up Bakhmut. Great! Keep on brave Ukraine's forces!
A group of convicts with shovels managed to defeat a NATO trained and equipped army, wow!
Yes, With 100000 Russian casualties
@@myaopan add some more zeros for better effect😂
And your definition of defeat? wow........is a pretty big word for a bot-boi!
Yes the Ghost of Kiev killed them all.
@@myaopan 2 million . Why not say 3 million?
LOL Denail is not a river in Egypt.
I remember when Zelenskiy announced fate of Bakhmut will decide the war and when he announced Ukraine will regain Crimea by the end of spring.
Common guys, there is no big offensive, Ukraine doesn't have man for that
Their limited manpower must be a major concern for them. Without foreign boots on the ground, they may run out of steam before they even start.
Really!? Wait and see! How long has it taken Russia, the so called second best army in the world to take the centre of Bakmut? 😂😂
@@garyhopkins9275
Russia IS the second best army in the world.
First one lost to Jihadists wearing sandals in Avgust of 2021 which clearly shows there is no perfect army.
I feel sorry for Ukrainians but that's the (sad) reality.
There is no such thing as winning this war for them
@@garyhopkins9275 And yet they took it.
It is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled. The West and Ukraine supporters still believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
I love to listening to Michael Clarke, he always knows where he is talking about !
So Russia might have to send more troops to hold a city of no importance while as the same time Ukraine will be trying to re-take cites which have importance where those troops would be needed .Ukraine might have not wanted to retake Bakhmut they wanted Russia to take it.
Jesus, you live in a fantasy world
@@noksucowboy NO, do YOU expect the Russian Army to HOLD Bakhmut? If so I have some nice building sites to sell you in Siberia!
@@khiem1939 I don't expect them to do anything, how would I know what their plan is.
When you take a city you have to hold it because if you don't what would be the point in taking it in the first place ?.
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Talk about what is happening in the Belgorod Oblast.
Sounds like a stalemate to me.
In two months it will start to rain.
In four months it will be winter.
Russia is winning just alow the propaganda it’s getting boring now
naa watching the russians lose will never get old lol
Hilarious. Drugged snails advance faster.
My opinion of Russia's military is formulated by my own experience in the US army infantry.
The Ohio national guard would crush them inside 72 hours. F×cking joke is what they are. Pathetic.
German tanks rolling East again. Can't wait....Ob’s stürmt oder schneit,
Ob die Sonne uns lacht,
Der Tag glühend heiß
Oder eiskalt die Nacht,
Verstaubt sind die Gesichter,
Doch froh ist unser Sinn,
Ja unser Sinn.
Es braust unser Panzer
Im Sturmwind dahin.
Cornet incoming...
Wish the commentators would stop with the demand that
Ukraine must achieve a dramatic victory in their counter offensive
to keep getting western support.
In WW2 the allies lost the battle for Norway,
suffered huge losses at Dieppe,
failed badly in trying to reach a bridge too far
and no doubt suffered many other defeats
but they didn't stop fighting the war.
Russia is running lower and lower in terms of stocks of tanks
and trained tank crews and is firing far fewer shells
as though the country is worried about running out of shells
and seems to desperately be using up every non-ballistic missile
In its stores trying (and failing) to discourage Ukraine from continuing to fight
and is going to have a more and more difficult time
trying to get new troops to go to Ukraine
and most importantly is quickly running through its foreign reserves
and according to some reports will be out of those reserves
by this time next year which will make it virtually impossible
for Russia to continue fighting the war.
Even if Ukraine does not achieve an overwhelming victory
with its offensive it does not mean that Ukraine won't win the war.
And the worst thing for long term peace would be if Russia was allowed
to keep more territory it seized in its current invasion.
history will be the final judge on the NATO vrs Russian conflict, folks 😀
NATO aren’t fighting.
@@hailhydra7959 this is just you're opinion & you have the freedom 2xpress it 😁
@@keithayre5110 That’d be what’s known as a fact.
Does the commentator taking the same drugs as Zelenski? What offencive, they just lost bahmut
Who the he'll is this guy. He's not even a soldier. He's just a commentator. He's not even in the front line. He is just guessing relying on other media, and he's giving expert opinion? Unbelievable!
He's a TV pundit employed by sky news
He is actually a professor of military studies
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I hope so.
At this point this offensive, i will belive it once i see it. To me its all words at the moment
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lets keep it such, the less the public know. The better are the odds for a succesive Ukraine offensive. This talk about it, only benefit russia.
ofcourse its just a talk, zelensky is waiting for f16, that will take the pilots to be trained for 3 years and if the person that to be trained has a High IQ it will only take about 12-18months.. if the counteroffensive will happen next week or next month who will be the pilot?its going to be a NATO countries.
@@vladimirprotein1275 The only difference is Russian Ruin this year or next, hunger, "Z" patriots murdering and LITERALLY EATING each other. But don't worry......have some "Russian Christmas Dinner" 🥣💩
It dosent have to be a sudden event that happens. It can be a gradual thing that starts in sevelar phases.
Get it right, it’s Artemovsk.
Hehehehe
Cope
@@darkbunny7948 The good guys are winning. 🇷🇺Z
Yes sure…. Now that all the Russian defense it’s strong as f… ?
Battles that change the course of wars don't necessarily have to be fought in strategic locations: Saratoga and Gettysburg. Training the Ukrainians to use F-16s will take months.
And what they don't say is that they will going up against Russian pilots in 5th Gen aircraft who have had years of experience.
@@OnyxStudiosInteractiveCool story bro
Times Radio still claimes that Bakhmut is in Ukraine control.....where is Bakhmut? Its like soledar, Mariupol...it is still in Ukraine control...😂😂😂😂
Is that all you got?
Imagine being happy that Russia took a whole year to take a small town. 😐 It's a complete shambles. People thought Ukraine would fall within a few weeks. It's now got to a point where Russian supporters think Ukraine losing Bakhmut is a massive blow. How the mighty have fallen.
@@Joe-og6br just fake soldier with shovel that Russian serves for heavy equiped NATO trained army 😂
Don't lie! Ukraine is fighting strong! 💪 💪
looks more like getting their backsides handed to them to me...
So it is now of no strategic importance 😂
Counter? With what? There is no chance of a counter if the mud dosent dry and it's looking like a wet summer.