Nederman: Welding Fumes - Risk and Solutions
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Welding fume is a huge problem and a serious threat to health and saftey. A movie produced by Nederman Sweden about Welding Fumes. Nederman is a world leader in dust and smoke extraction, exhaust fume extraction, hose and cable reels and workplace partitioning.
That's a shame to the modern society that people doing such an important and hazardous job are getting paid less than some white collar clerks moving papers from left to right and doing some excel...
It's so sad to see our government watching this que payment
My husband aged 51, a hard working Welder Fabricator in the trade from the age of 16. Feb 2020 diagnosed with cancer, Myeloma. We are convinced he was exposed to something? Devastated wife!!!
Well, he was exposed to welding fumes. They are carcinogenic in general. Sad but true
Yeah u come home with black boogers for a reason
Everything is carcinogenic, California tried banding so now they have stickers on literally everything including lumber coffee literally everything has a prop 65 warning. I just don’t think it was the welding fumes personally. Could’ve been some of the additives, though, when you weld with residue of things like chlorine that used to be in brake cleaner quite a bit and Freon when soldering brass piping, those causes a lot of issues. Even welding galvanize, which I highly doubt they did, or without PPE, would not lead to that most likely scenario was that he may be smoked cigarettes.
@ktms1188 He hates smoking has never touched it...
Did your husband beat it?
I'm a newer welder >3 years and I'll share my modest wisdom. I have met a lot of shop foreman that boast about how much money their company makes. Then I take a lap around the welding area. 40, 50, 60 year old welding machines. No extraction, high ceiling yes but active extraction. Mostly never. OSHA says that you must have a high ceiling in a weld area. Most of this stuff is metal particles. Its going to drop, the welding fume doesn't stop being a danger when the arc stops.I personally do not weld unless I have two of three types of extraction. Mechanical by means of a fan blowing or sucking the fume away from your head. Passive/natural, an open freight door. Now before I get someone butt hurt. When tig welding you can always put a piece of cardboard up as a wind break as tig doesn't cause spatter. Lastly personal protection. I wear a half mask with P100 filters in them I change out every week, if its needed or not. PAPR helmets are great, expensive but its the closest thing to 0 exposure. The next best thing is not welding. It blows a stream of purified filtered air out so all your breathing is clean filtered air, instead of the alternative.**For the US with BWC insurance you have health and safety programs and "bonuses" you can receive for preventative things. If you give your employees a respirator or PAPR, its going to discount your policies premiums **Back on track now. Use a mask when your grinding, not just a face shield as it kicks up and under.Its worth the prevention. You don't want to be dealing with WC when your sick. Its an expensive set up to start, but when you think of the alternative its very cheap. We have a shorter life expectancy based off the welders conditions during the 60's-90's when fume control wasn't as readily available. Now I'd like to see the numbers.
I weld and grind for 6 years, almost full time, I used only side ventilation but still got my throut irritated. Now I use also a activated carbon 3M mask when I can, big improvment
Eis Geist I'm a professional welder also and it's really exciting to burn people with the contact end. it teaches them a lesson to wear protective penis guards because it's the first thing to drop off when you get fumes
@@romeufilipe5574 Thank god Im not the only one. Im 19 and I am almost graduating as a welder. I have tha same problem like you. My throat gets very irritated like two to three times a month because of the fumes but where I practice there is no extractors
@@gabrieljordan9977 extracting and carbon mask is the best, you will rarely notice anything. in winter cold mask alone works but eyes will not like alot of smoke. So extractor becomes a need for long term
My job has poor ventilation and lots of plasma cutting fumes, my problem is it irritates my eyes as well as my throat a bit but I have a p100 filter for that. Not sure what I could cover my eyes with so I'm not losing my eye sight.
Good information on health risk, thanks for posting.
As a kid who was raised around truckers and welders, I can confirm that there was no such vented hoods inside of shops, but was at least lucky because we couldn’t afford to shop so worked outdoors, and had some natural ventilation. One of the best things that’s old-timers can do With our spare time is to craft safety equipment to donate to the kids starting out or perhaps mentor them. Or welding certificates should start with this safety training with the first projects, being how to well together your welding carts, indoor exhaust systems, et…. I never understood welders, who didn’t well together their own carts and systems, because “they didn’t have time”.
Having safety equipment, relevant training and proper together with complaint weld fume extraction is outmost important for welders health and safety. By that you protect not only the welders but also production and the planet!
Whenever I grind the galvanized metal at work compared to the regular metal,I get headaches and shit. My cigs taste different even.
Zinc poisoning ......
I welded something that I had bolted together with zinc bolts. I had the flu for about 40 minutes that night .....
This demonstration is really great. I’m gonna show it To my boss
Thanks Dylan! There are indeed a lot of related health risks for welders that are exposed to dangerous weld fume. So it´s really important to protect the workers by having the right protection equipment and a weld fume extraction solution in place. Just let us know if you or your boss wants to know more about Nederman´s solutions. You´ll find the contact details at www.nederman.com/en/contact.
If your reading this in the future. My Dad died through this. It was awful. Welding fumes. Wear your RPE. Xx
Sorry to hear about your dad! Yes, extremely important to wear RPE and use some kind of welding fume extraction solution.
you do know you can sue the company for not supplying the air purifying helmets
im starting my welding apprenticeship soon and we HAVE to wear them otherwise we get kicked off of the course
Hope you get well
My company bought two 3m papr helmets. Literally just two. There are like 5 welders in the galvanized trusses team. I bought my own papr no way im using those dirty old hoods.
I’m in welding school I love to weld, but I’m second guessing my career having bad lungs , eyesight , hearing any advice anyone willing to give
While our focus is ensuring welders have reduced exposure to weld fumes and its effects through means of capture at source, you also need to make sure you make use of the proper personal protective equipment (PPE) for the other health aspects of the welding trade such as hearing and vision. As long as you take the proper safety precautions, like any career welding can be along and fulfilling one.
You may look like a clown, but wear protection. I have a mask for grinder particulates, ear muffs rated for gunshots, and always safety glasses.
You’re good bro. that melon is shielded
The next issue is getting sunburned
Nobody is saying you can’t wear sunglasses while you weld either. Extra shade layer couldn’t hurt
Can get an adflo from 3m, it’s a welding helmet that filters the air. They’re expensive tho and you need to change the filter every now and then.
Bro quit ,I been qualified for 19 years and now I'm seriously dying just leave my organs are shutting down everyday from it ,,,and I'm to stubborn to admit it ,,but my 10 hospital trip and seriously fucked
My dad used to be a welder and build boats boats until he got chronic asthma silicosis. the doctors said that he only had 6 to 10 years to live and it has now been 11 years :) the only reason for this is because my dad smoked pot. and he believes that pot is keeping him alive and i believe his theory too. he would have 1 or 2 cones late in the afternoons and then when its time he would start coughing up a cup full of all this yellowie brown crap within his lungs
is he still alive ?
is he good?
Is he okay?
The resin is an auxiliary mucus for the lungs
Very useful information. Thanks.
NEVER weld galvanized without having any areas that will get past 250 deg. fully ground down!
Are you guaranteed to breath the fumes in even with a high end respirator? Im going to welding school and i dont know what im getting myself into health wise. Should i be scared or do i just gotta know all the saftey precautions
The gvs p100 or the 3m p100 paired with a fabri-metal tiger hood is a great combination for protection the tiger hood was designed to be under hood resperator friendly and attach to a hard hat easily
At the weld school they probably have booths with very good ventilation. You probably won’t be around any big clouds of smoke since the smoke probably gets sucked out of the room
plz don't recommend gvs masks.. pure garabge@@willbecker5632
I'm not a professional welder but I stick-welded for a couple of hours in my garage without ventilation and I probably won't weld again within the next year, do I have to be concerned?
+eishockeyjunkee As long as you weren't welding anything weird like paints/oils/organic solvents your fine. Order a disposable N95 filter that states it IS for weld fume. Its cheap and keeps the crap under your PEL.
I work in a workshop where only occasionally someone is welding and I get extreme headache and chest pain even though I do not weld myself, just being in the same room.
As a welder i can say that i have gotten used to it. But i still wear a respirator. I welded without one for 2 weeks and felt like i was going to die and got symptoms of smokers lung without even smoking. Everybody reacts differently to chemicals. Dont let anyone convince you that you dont need ppe
Yes, welding fume can affect your body and wellbeing even if you are exposed just for shorter periods of time. That´s why it´s important to have the right equipment, where extraction at source have proved to be the most efficient method if capturing and removing welding fumes. Find out more at www.nederman.com/en/applications/welding-fume-extraction.
Three days ago, I felt the light of Aragon light, I got a lot of trouble for the first two days There is no pain But the problem is that I can see close objects, but I can not see anything 25/30 feet away, all blurred.
Shit, did you wear any respirators?
I took a 6 week welding class, and we practiced non-stop. Every time school ended we would wash our nose to remove the black mucus.
I used to get headaches, and still do. Wish I would have bought a Welding respirator.
Ikr
Im about to finish a 7 month welding program at school but I've inhaled idk how much fumes and I'm concerned
Currently in school i got ultra ultra sick my first week felt like the flu not sure if this trade is for me anymore
Sorry to hear that. Inhaling welding fumes is a serious health risk that can cause numerous health problems. However, with proper weld extraction at the source we can minimize the risks and create safe working conditions for welders.
Learn more here: www.nederman.com/en/industry-solutions/welding-and-cutting
Any update? Please, I go next month and starting to second guess my decision. Are you still in school?
@@nueni3380go for it brother, I get that youre concerned about your health, but welding can be safe, just wear proper ppe, the respirator can protect you, goggles can protect your eyes and ears plugs can save your ears ,I've been welding for a decade now and I've never had a problem with my respiratory system, if you're still worried, then specialize on tig welding😅, it's the safest.
Welding I'd a tough job and it's not something you would want to do for multiple decades, seek for promotions and become an inspector so you can work with metals and not put your health at risk.
Good luck.
I notice that the ozone or argon irritates my sinuses and make me cough like I chain smoked all day. Lithium based weather proof paint makes you feel goofy and tired at the same time. A few good breaths of anything galvanized pretty much ruins you for a day like you're down with a cold, like the video says.
Im feeling it from galv tonight
Argon isnt toxic, it can only be a problem if there is a big leak and you are in a closed space and oxygen levels are decreased
Other than that argon is 100% safe.
Ozone well isnt.
Argon is not safe if you're down in a whole welding, you will suffocate, pass out and die.@@dinoj8126
I weld stick sometimes just for fun. Started to wear a respirator (ffp2) just to be safe. I never weld anything toxic. Just clean steel. Always wipe with IPA alcohol. Cleaned my metal with brake cleaner once but washed it again with alcohol just to be sure. Same with soldering. I bought a fume extractor.
Avoid brake cleaner, causes serious poisoning. Chlorine based cleaners leave residue which creates phosgene gas when welded. A video I watched recommended to use acetone to clean metal. ruclips.net/video/r7srRiQebq0/видео.html
Bro if you’re just occasionally welding you’re fine. It’s the guys doing it day in day out for years who get health problems
@@Alex-gf4iu yeah I know but for the price of a respirator it doesn’t really matter and I dont have to breathe it in. I work with paints for my hobby too. Plus im sensitive to chemicals
Plain steel is still toxic. Gas from the flux is toxic, ozone produced by the arc mixing with oxygen is toxic, regular steel contains carbon, silicon , manganese, iron etc.
And dont use break cleaner, acetone is all you need.
@@dinoj8126 yes any fusion process releases gasses. Acetone is expensive compared to Ipa.
At the company I work for we build tanks and I weld inside those tanks allot. Smoke accumulates inside and im breathing in heavy concentrations of it daily. Now I went to the hospital and found out I have lung cancer.
Mar Dub are you serious Mar?You got me worried,I’ve arc welding and mug welding for the past 25 years.
@@ramirosierra7103 is it even worth welding?
I have to quit welding I been qualified for 19 years and even now if I tack weld ,,I'm crook as anything like I'm dying now ,,,I have high exposure to zinc poisining now even one tack weld I'm fucked my organs are shutting down inside and hurting I can feel it ,,, doctors and hospitals can't pick up on it either so you have to educate them a bit ,,,but don't do it ,,the money I'm losing now but fuck I don't ever want to do it again even my tools I left behind because I'm fuckn scared as hell😢
why not wear a respirator?... YOU DONT AHVE TO BREATHE ZINC FUMES!!!!
@@jacobgaysawyer337 respirator don't do shit
even a simple p100 filter without carbon can filter zinc fumes...@@ci2763
Can i sue?
Thanks for info.
btw: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Thank you!
Can get an adflo from 3m, it’s a welding helmet that filters the air. They’re expensive tho and you need to change the filter every now and then.
Personal Protective Equipment is an alternative and may be a complement but the most effective way is to extract the fumes as close to the source as possible.
@@NedermanHolding would love to work somewhere that has this sort of protection but my company gets jail inmates shipped in as what i can only describe as legal slave labor. I dont think we will have nice things this soon
Yep im fucked
I got really sick after a welding day at work. I think it could be to poor ventilation, all we had was just fans to blow the smoke away. My symptom was that I can't really breath and every time I breath I felt a sharp pain and my lungs feels heavy. I was welding galvanize metal. I'm very worried about my health now!.. What should I do?.... Any help, suggestion?....
prince abubu dude are you ok now?
That nigga dead now
@@justusnesbitt3693 are you sure?
Muy dificil de implementar estas medidas de seguridad en paises subdesarrollados y ni siquiera en USA Se ven
If you want to know more about how to implement a welding fume system in a secure manner, please contact our weld fume experts www.nederman.com/en/contact.
así es, estoy de acuerdo con usted, las compañías ofrecen un aparente buen sueldo pero , no alcanza para pagar los daños a la salud.
Second day of welding school and after cutting all day i have black stuff in my nose. My spit is also black. Makes me not want to weld. I was oxy fuel cutting. Its not as bad when you weld but it still happens. Thats how u know ur breathing bad stuff
Do you know what happened now?
@@hikiko8826 it still happens but I pay more attention now and try my best not to breath in fumes
@@geraldhoffman2606 soon im taking a placement test for a vocational school and im trying to get into welding to make money and get out of my parents place asap; any tips?
@@hikiko8826 thats a great idea. Welding school is not hard. So far i really enjoy it and I'm excited to find a job that pays well. Just stick to it and you will be successful!
@@geraldhoffman2606 thank you so much man
13 year old video and many firms still have no lev extraction systems
Yes, old video but the health risks related to welding remains the same. Therefore, proper welding fume extractions solutions are really important to protect the welders.
thats exactly what i did thank you
I don't want to drown from my own blood
who does?
I've never seen that personally building industry for 25 years I know people that have suffered I've seen people within a couple of months get what's known as black lung for breathing all the crap in a tanker building grinding welding fumes smoking doesn't help I've been wearing an under hood respirator for the last few years haven't smoked in 12 years I am in pretty good shape now if you can consider round a shape long protection is definitely a must
Which respirator do you use
@@User15837 you can check out GVS elipse or 3m 7500. They both have specific filters for use during welding processes. P3 with activated carbon.
I think 7500 is better. It's the one I personally use, even though I own both.
how far are large companies that galvanize steel have to be from neighborhoods or living complexes? also, are the clothes that the welder wears while working , is that also contaminated? if so, can he spread chemicals by not taking off his uniform and going to a public place ?? thanks !!
jessica pedraza metal is dirty, all work around metal is dirty. clothes are blackened and ripped on sharp metal daily. we go home sore and tired and toss the clothes into the laundry. they dirty up the car and anything they contact being that the dirt is in dust and rust and particles. we hate welding galvanised and usually get sick from it. I was taught to drink a qt of milk before werk. a qt at lunch. and a qt after werk to prevent it from getting in. it seems to help.
its a tough job.
good video
Nice video Sir
I weld 12 hrs a day and smoke a half a pack a day what else could go wrong
rabs2020 are u dead now?
Trevor Carter no reply. I think he went to the other side to weld some more 🤣
STILL no reply
He dead lol
you will be lucky if you don't have any serious condition by your 40's
No mamen! Ahora se por que mi cunado murio de cancer! Y si acertaron me va apasar lo mismo, todo por no educarnos acerca de los riesgos. Nos compramos rines de $2000 , y no invertimos en un buen equipo de proteccion, para uno mismo,
The problem is that these systems are outrageously priced. If they really wanna do the welders, a service is to teach them how to put together their own.
Please be informed that Nederman is a premium brand that guarantees high quality products and solutions within industrial air filtration which are compliant with standards and regulations. You can always contact any of our sales offices for information on what solution that will be the most cost-efficient based on your specific needs at www.nederman.com/en/contact.
what about siggerets ? after welding property
Did you seriously just spell cigarettes with a "s"?
Welding fume extractors are solutions for fume and dust 😊🙂
Welding fume extractors indeed are great solutions to protect welders from hazardous welding fume 👍
thanks for the info
hi iam new welder may i ask what would be the best respirator mask
thanks for answering my question
Hi! Having a weld fume extraction solution in place is a preferable protection for you as a welder, since it will extract the hazardous fume and keep it away from you. If you want to know more, please contact a Nederman sales office close to you www.nederman.com/en/contact.
Nice work!
I should have known this before I got into welding. I'm scared now.
With proper safety equipment and a welding fume extraction solution in place, you are minimizing the health risks related to welding. For further information on this, please visit our website www.nederman.com/en/knowledge-center/welding-and-cancer.
If I was that guy welding without a welding helmets I would steal my bosses boots coming up through my ass
Sandals????? WTF>> @ 0:29
Little Ricky'sFlyingCircus - yup & no gloves lol
I weld for a company and have being asking for better extraction for years they do not listen,even joined the union still no joy.
I've had it, it sucks ass, I felt sick and tired and coughing for days after a bought of welding in college, I dunno what I did but I got sick wleding.
We´re sorry to hear that, hope you feel better now! It´s the outmost important that welders have the right protection equipment and are not exposed to hazardous welding smoke. Therefore a proper weld fume extraction solution is vital to safeguard the health and safety of the welder.
They're probably welding on galvanised metal
ironically its safe to weld lead?????
Because Led Zeppelin is good duh
🙏
serious buddy
I’m a 14 year old welder I may have been exposed to these fumes for a few minutes will I be ok
Only 1 way to find out
I was in school and inhaled a bit of smoke i was making a coin shape because why not. Will i die ?
Eventually
you are most likely dead already, If not, i wouldn't say you are long left for this earth, please spend your last moments wisely.
Shane Mackey I can confirm that I’m not dead
Funniest shit I've seen so far
@@masakisatoru5589 are u still doing welding
@mjdubor Are you serious or joking?
Suicide by welding?
bull shit and bolluks. ive worked all over the world plater welder. have this company here ever been to site NO. you cannot eliminate fumes in a workshop I cant be askt to type anmore
Wait to you go to get a CT scan from breathing metal dust in the air from grinding you throat will hurt.
Saying "high levels" is kind of meaningless without some quantifiers...sheesh.
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I work in a place where there's a welding facility just outside and a sandblasting on the other side. I see this black dust appears on my desk, white papers darken. Could that be the welding dust ?
It´s really hard to tell what the black dust on your desk is, but if you are concerned you could always contact the welding and sandblasting facilities.
@@NedermanHolding it's all around, on desk, on computer screen. To me it seems like weld dust. It looks like dirt when I wipe my computer screen with white paper it gets all dirty. Even now I swiped with my finger and it's looks like earth dirt almost
good video