I'm guessing this review was made before the BP details were released since it's known now that the S43 is arguably the easiest F2P event premium to earn in the game's history.
IF you like playing T6, T7 and T8 players. I'd rather vomit on my breakfast than play that meta game style. WG's NEEDS to offer and uptier option for t8 t9 players.
@@DJS-mx8oz While the S43 herself is T7, you can just play the game within the rules of the daily missions to earn her, no extra metagaming or forced modes required.
@@DJS-mx8oz ranked/brawls exist and are often at T7. Great ship for free. A lot of veteran player prefer mid tiers rather than the snipe fest that is t10. I have every tech tree t10 and often find myself playing t7/8 when not grinding a line.
You must be a BB player. If I had to guess, usually the one that's found on the side of the map solo and using "sniping" as an excuse for poor team play let along "fun" at mid tiers aka useless most matches but blames everyone else. T10 is literally just sit in spawn and mouse click shots off.@@DJS-mx8oz
I've always found the Scharny to be powerful, though it's not as popular as it used to be. It certainly punches above its weight class (or tier) because of it's armor and torps. This looks like a good modification of the original.
I love the Sharny, and I'm addicted to secondary builds, which is a problem as I speed through secondary flags as wargaming speeds through ship releases instead of reworking plane spotting.
First time I ran the OG Scharnhorst was as a rental. The first battle in it was much like the one in your battle at C taking out the NC and Amagi. So much fun, sold me on that ship's potential. Looking forward to taking the 43 version through its paces.
I got the Scharnhorst over 5 years ago from a Santa container for free so it will be nice to get the new one for free too! I don't use the original much anymore but I am glad others will get something similar.
It’s kind of around the same power level tbh, more of a side grade than anything else. You lose out on main gun dpm but you gain secondaries dpm and a spd boost. You’d be surprised how much 3s reload matters
useful tip: there is a key (idk the default keybind) to lock your armament, which you can use to keep main guns locked at a ship or angle while using ASW
Hope the torpedo launchers are a bit more durable. On my Scharnhorst the launchers go with the first incoming salvo. Reload becomes irrelevant. The sub-caliber AP is not great. But it is better than one expects.
i have a few questions, how did you do it so it shows every currency you have in the dock, and how did you manage to change the transparency of the map and the slightly changed icons when you hit someone? i would be very grateful if you can answer this. awesome video btw
I've had Scharnhorst for quite a few years now, & she's great fun depending on match-making, awesome in Narai operation & this new version should be even more fun, & also for those often ignored Operations (which are good to acquire 10 point captains through if you don't have any) With speed boost alone, you're looking at 34 knots? Add a speed flag & Brisk, & 39 or so? That's FAST.!
I do not know why the secondaries of Scharnhorst '43 have less hitting-dpm (40'849) than the secondaries of the regular Scharnhorst (41'048). So the '43-Variant has secondaries with lower reload-time, but nervertheless a more bad hitting-dpm than the regular one. How can that be? Has it less accuracy? I have the values about ship-stats from shiptool point ft . So i believe i will not set a secondary-build on this ship. But *thumbs up.*
So question. I just got into WoW this christmas and had enough time to make it to tier 10 and claim the ship. I should include that ive played WoW on xbox (not really the same) and ive got basic game knowledge for the most part. Though the one crucial thing im missing is that commander, since im fresh in, and i wanted to know what you would go with for a commander setup on the stock commander you get. Ive gotten the 4 base perks of a secondary setup so far, but im not sure where to go from here.
Currently playing secondary gneis for ranked. But this is a fast ship with good secondaries and good toro’s so I think this could be a good ranked pick
@@Choukai_Chan yeah but '43 is the secondary focused one and gets the same gun accuracy lol. Also, secondary bb with unusually decent accuracy on guns with a speed boost.... Is this a georgia at tier 7?
@@Choukai_Chan Scharnhorst has the same dispersion ellipse as American battleships. How it keeps consistently getting terrible shots with that on top of 2.0 sigma is still a mystery to me.
If only WG buffed Scharnhorst AP from 7600 to 8400.(It makes non sesne for me that Graf Spee has a 8400 dmg AP when it has the same caliber guns as Scharnhorst)
PQ is playing for the LOL's but I wouldn't follow his style in order to win. Taking on two T8 BB's in a squiswy T7 BB. Really? The BB's should have used their range against S43. I can only assume that they though it was just a standard Sch. And going after the ROMA at the end?. I would have made the ROMA come to me however he did know that he had a team mate as an insurance policy.. But it was great fun to watch, Good video.
Supposedly a few battles a day for a week will earn you the Shinyhorse. I understand it’s all base XP related so there’s no goofy missions or playing modes you don’t like. This event is being universally praised. Not saying WG can’t still screw it up but it looks good so far. Also if you’ve been gone for several months use the starter code. You can get Emden, Repulse and a T5 ship container.
I guess it's cool that we'll be getting this for free, especially for players who don't have the original, but it's lame that they didn't even bother to slap a unique skin on her.
Yeah Gneisenau with improved secondaries and a speed boost would be crazy since it has better anti-air, secondary gun penetration and main gun overmatch. The dream ship.
the only way for someone not to get this ship is to not play at all for the next 5 weeks. WG is saying 1-3 games a day for 10 days and you can get it. i am guessing for most players you can get it a lot sooner.
I dont know how you do it, but literally every showcase ive watched you get a kraken. Nuts man. Those arnt easy to get and you are getting them like its throwing popcorn in your mouth. I dont think ive seen you play one bad game lol
I find the original still stronger. So i sold the S43. The first one just hit harder from range, not enough secondary guns to be a true secondary brawler. The engine boost is nice though
Since id never use a T7 Premium in randoms much and go with it for ranked and other same tier modes or asymetric id not pick IFHE. It just cuts the fire chance way too much for nothing in return. One thing thats a bit disappointing is that it has the same bad concealment as the original and Gneisenau. Makes zero sense that Bismarck and Tirpitz got much better concealment than them.
In the devblog they clearly layed out everything. Assuming they stayed true to that it´s really not going to take any effort whatsoever to get this ship.
I love my shiny horse but use accuracy instead of sec range on slot 3, it works super well for me. Bread and Butter still is main guns. looking forward to see a faster ship in action
Nah. This version has improved secondaries compared to the older version so it makes no sense to go for a main gun build. Also, if you intend to play around main guns, you should outright not be playing this type of ship in the first place.
Picked up the ship over the weekend. The speed boost is nice, but beyond that the changes don't feel significant enough to justify the ship's existence. I would have been more enthusiastic about a North Cape event that gave players the chance to earn OG Scharnhorst, Duke of York, OR Stord '43. Plus a ship that isn't in the game yet, like HMS Norfolk, which as a later County-class could be an improved Devonshire at T7.
Yep, Penetrating shells are kinda useless, and accuracy and fire chance doesn't imorove neither, but at least we got torpedoes, 2 depth chagues atacks, fighters, engine booster and some more stuff
Takes so long to kill a sub and when there’s six of them, a BB might as well go home. I like my regular Scharnhorst, not sure I want this one. Tempted.
08:52 "saving" your torps for a 3k hp baBByship then unloading your HE salvo into the belt armor of the other BB would not raise any eyebrows from a generic random idiot yet, ladies and gentlemen this is the gameplay of a full time professional WOWS youtuber
I'm guessing this review was made before the BP details were released since it's known now that the S43 is arguably the easiest F2P event premium to earn in the game's history.
IF you like playing T6, T7 and T8 players. I'd rather vomit on my breakfast than play that meta game style. WG's NEEDS to offer and uptier option for t8 t9 players.
@@DJS-mx8oz While the S43 herself is T7, you can just play the game within the rules of the daily missions to earn her, no extra metagaming or forced modes required.
T7 and bellow are one of the most fun tier. Higher tiers could be removed and I would not even notice
@@DJS-mx8oz ranked/brawls exist and are often at T7. Great ship for free.
A lot of veteran player prefer mid tiers rather than the snipe fest that is t10.
I have every tech tree t10 and often find myself playing t7/8 when not grinding a line.
You must be a BB player. If I had to guess, usually the one that's found on the side of the map solo and using "sniping" as an excuse for poor team play let along "fun" at mid tiers aka useless most matches but blames everyone else. T10 is literally just sit in spawn and mouse click shots off.@@DJS-mx8oz
The double sided-brawl while outplaying the submarine was the chefs kiss.
And whilst brawling with HE
Sharnhorst is a nightmare at close range. The armour makes it hard to damage
Potato Quality using 400% of his brainpower against the submarine.
I once saw PQ kill a submarine with a fucking pencil. *A FUCKING PENCIL*
The sub whisperer.
I've always found the Scharny to be powerful, though it's not as popular as it used to be. It certainly punches above its weight class (or tier) because of it's armor and torps. This looks like a good modification of the original.
The Scharnhorst was my first T7 and T7 premium. I still play it and have a soft spot for it. I will definitely be picking this up!
Scharnhorst 43 could be a good Tier 7 Ranked ship. If it does this well against Tier 8 than tier 7 should be crazy.
Thanks PQ. I’ve been having a blast in a secondary Scharnhorst in asymmetric (and I’m a DD main), so I’m really looking forward to this.
I love the Sharny, and I'm addicted to secondary builds, which is a problem as I speed through secondary flags as wargaming speeds through ship releases instead of reworking plane spotting.
First time I ran the OG Scharnhorst was as a rental. The first battle in it was much like the one in your battle at C taking out the NC and Amagi. So much fun, sold me on that ship's potential. Looking forward to taking the 43 version through its paces.
Single handledly sunk the dd, bullied the sub and brawled against 2 BBs... AND LIVED! The ship can only do so much, can we appreciate that skill? Wow
How the heck did you not get the kill on that sub earlier. You landed a torp and like 4 depth charges, and set like 4 floods.
Protected class
Just sub things
I got the Scharnhorst over 5 years ago from a Santa container for free so it will be nice to get the new one for free too! I don't use the original much anymore but I am glad others will get something similar.
So instead of updating the Scharnhorst to be less power crept, they just make a new version, same tier??? That's silly. I still love that boat
copy and paste the new doubloon sucking stream.
It’s kind of around the same power level tbh, more of a side grade than anything else. You lose out on main gun dpm but you gain secondaries dpm and a spd boost. You’d be surprised how much 3s reload matters
useful tip:
there is a key (idk the default keybind) to lock your armament, which you can use to keep main guns locked at a ship or angle while using ASW
There's a few, like CTRL+X. Most people don't use them.
@@dzelloI do when I'm using depth charges or torps on the other side or something.
Otherwise hold right mouse button to look around.
Hope the torpedo launchers are a bit more durable. On my Scharnhorst the launchers go with the first incoming salvo. Reload becomes irrelevant. The sub-caliber AP is not great. But it is better than one expects.
i have a few questions, how did you do it so it shows every currency you have in the dock, and how did you manage to change the transparency of the map and the slightly changed icons when you hit someone? i would be very grateful if you can answer this. awesome video btw
Defnitly like to know myself .. Just got in this last chrismas
Looks like I’m gonna have fun with this together with my boi Lütjens in Ops.
Ah forgot about ops! I’ve been solidly on asymmetric as of late. Yep this with Luchens will be fun!
Fantastic video! Got the Scharnhorst 43 myself and can't wait to try it out some more. How did you get your UI to look like that?
I've had Scharnhorst for quite a few years now, & she's great fun depending on match-making, awesome in Narai operation & this new version should be even more fun, & also for those often ignored Operations (which are good to acquire 10 point captains through if you don't have any)
With speed boost alone, you're looking at 34 knots? Add a speed flag & Brisk, & 39 or so? That's FAST.!
I do not know why the secondaries of Scharnhorst '43 have less hitting-dpm (40'849) than the secondaries of the regular Scharnhorst (41'048). So the '43-Variant has secondaries with lower reload-time, but nervertheless a more bad hitting-dpm than the regular one. How can that be? Has it less accuracy?
I have the values about ship-stats from shiptool point ft . So i believe i will not set a secondary-build on this ship.
But *thumbs up.*
So question. I just got into WoW this christmas and had enough time to make it to tier 10 and claim the ship. I should include that ive played WoW on xbox (not really the same) and ive got basic game knowledge for the most part. Though the one crucial thing im missing is that commander, since im fresh in, and i wanted to know what you would go with for a commander setup on the stock commander you get. Ive gotten the 4 base perks of a secondary setup so far, but im not sure where to go from here.
Wow, that first game was a brawling BB's wet dream, well done!
would you take this over P Heinrich for ranked or brawl? hmmm prolly not.
Good game!
What mods are you use in the video?
Fantastic performance and a real pleasure to watch
Currently playing secondary gneis for ranked. But this is a fast ship with good secondaries and good toro’s so I think this could be a good ranked pick
She also has 2.0 sigma on her main guns too
True, but so has Scharnhorst. It's just, that both Ships got a very bad dispersion formula / elipse.
@@Choukai_Chan yeah but '43 is the secondary focused one and gets the same gun accuracy lol. Also, secondary bb with unusually decent accuracy on guns with a speed boost....
Is this a georgia at tier 7?
@@thatinternetguyj5222 kind of, but you cant play like georiga though, the armour is stronger but the guns are much weaker
@@therecklesswarlock6439 Yeah no American Bias guns :(
@@Choukai_Chan Scharnhorst has the same dispersion ellipse as American battleships. How it keeps consistently getting terrible shots with that on top of 2.0 sigma is still a mystery to me.
just got the Scharnhorst '43 in Santas City I like the free ships I already have the Scharnhorst B so I will be comparing them.
7:17 that was perfect :D
If only WG buffed Scharnhorst AP from 7600 to 8400.(It makes non sesne for me that Graf Spee has a 8400 dmg AP when it has the same caliber guns as Scharnhorst)
But have less guns, thats some balans
@@krzysztofivmocny7952 Not in the current meta.
When do you preview the kitakami/defence?
When I got Brandenburg, I sold Scharnhorst and Tirpitz. But than now Xmas gives me this Scharnhorst43 with speed boost, I love it.
Never sell your premiums. Keep em, cause even if you didnt like these ships there is a high probability, that you will get em back from containers.
PQ is playing for the LOL's but I wouldn't follow his style in order to win. Taking on two T8 BB's in a squiswy T7 BB. Really? The BB's should have used their range against S43. I can only assume that they though it was just a standard Sch. And going after the ROMA at the end?. I would have made the ROMA come to me however he did know that he had a team mate as an insurance policy.. But it was great fun to watch, Good video.
Kinda wish it had gotten the refit hull
Well done! Really like the Scharnhorst.
o7
"This battle probably wont go too well..."
Proceeds to carry the entire team....
Fun ship, VERY easy to pick up fo' free!
Speed Boost brawler, no surprise PQ likes it!
if Admiral Schröder had grandma, it would be Scharnhorst 43
Good have very few to no brawlers at lower tiers (5,6,7)
Whats the grind for it and until when? So I know if I should open the game, haven't played in a while.
Supposedly a few battles a day for a week will earn you the Shinyhorse. I understand it’s all base XP related so there’s no goofy missions or playing modes you don’t like. This event is being universally praised. Not saying WG can’t still screw it up but it looks good so far.
Also if you’ve been gone for several months use the starter code. You can get Emden, Repulse and a T5 ship container.
@@prisonerofthehighway1059 TY already have embden and repulse tho. might grind for scharnhorst.
Scharn is my most played ship by far, so I'll gladly take another one for free.
Such a good looking ship.
i fooking dismissed the free caption of my Scharnhorsrt is it a premium captain?
Roma guns have weird characteristics that if ships are angle it gives full pins
Did we all hear the same @4:11 statement for "not going so well"?
I think that ist Just the Legends Scharnhorst
Nice review. Looks like a fun ship.
It only has speed boost and torpedo's. The hitting secondary DPM is better on the normal Scharnhorst
Cool, wondered what SCH 43 will be like. Well I am going to be loving that ship :~0 muwahahaha
I guess it's cool that we'll be getting this for free, especially for players who don't have the original, but it's lame that they didn't even bother to slap a unique skin on her.
Impressive gameplay, sir. 👏👏👏
Shoud be Gneisenau '43. We'd have Georgia t7, at least.
Thats what Renown 44 is
Yeah Gneisenau with improved secondaries and a speed boost would be crazy since it has better anti-air, secondary gun penetration and main gun overmatch.
The dream ship.
I would even pay for "Gneisenau '43"
Can we look at Rhode Island?
WG makes me like idiot that bought a Scharnhorst for years but only play it few times…
'Try before you buy' has never been a strong feature in this game unfortunately.
if it makes you feel better, I bought e25 in wot and played it once
the only way for someone not to get this ship is to not play at all for the next 5 weeks. WG is saying 1-3 games a day for 10 days and you can get it. i am guessing for most players you can get it a lot sooner.
Will go for Scharnhorst
I’ve just been playing 1 game of asymmetric battles a day and I’ll have this ship tomorrow, very easy to earn
how did that submarine survive all that, including a torp rofl?!
In the stats I read 24k damage dealed to the submarine, full hp, maybe depth chargues were too far, just one direct hit
great rush, we'll done
would've been perfect if we could swap the fighter for Hydro
yes defnitly
Roma has bad accuracy but the AP hits like a dump truck so don't let your guard down near one.
I dont know how you do it, but literally every showcase ive watched you get a kraken. Nuts man. Those arnt easy to get and you are getting them like its throwing popcorn in your mouth. I dont think ive seen you play one bad game lol
Stord 43 next?
Man if that thing had a hydro... nice vid!
I find the original still stronger. So i sold the S43. The first one just hit harder from range, not enough secondary guns to be a true secondary brawler. The engine boost is nice though
If you were broadside to the roma, he'd do overpens for 4k damage....
Since id never use a T7 Premium in randoms much and go with it for ranked and other same tier modes or asymetric id not pick IFHE. It just cuts the fire chance way too much for nothing in return.
One thing thats a bit disappointing is that it has the same bad concealment as the original and Gneisenau. Makes zero sense that Bismarck and Tirpitz got much better concealment than them.
U should check out the December update in wows legends they’re adding the Ohio finally and I’m excited
5 mins into the videos and we just witness a paid actor XD
Love my two Shinyhorses!
So you really wanted to send a video for his Games of Throw series.......
only unlocked this ship 20 minutes ago...
In the devblog they clearly layed out everything. Assuming they stayed true to that it´s really not going to take any effort whatsoever to get this ship.
Fun stuff!
Congrats on that game :-)
Shinyhorse is always a good time.
I love my shiny horse but use accuracy instead of sec range on slot 3, it works super well for me. Bread and Butter still is main guns. looking forward to see a faster ship in action
Nah.
This version has improved secondaries compared to the older version so it makes no sense to go for a main gun build.
Also, if you intend to play around main guns, you should outright not be playing this type of ship in the first place.
How to change in game UI like in the video, guys 😮?
Picked up the ship over the weekend. The speed boost is nice, but beyond that the changes don't feel significant enough to justify the ship's existence. I would have been more enthusiastic about a North Cape event that gave players the chance to earn OG Scharnhorst, Duke of York, OR Stord '43. Plus a ship that isn't in the game yet, like HMS Norfolk, which as a later County-class could be an improved Devonshire at T7.
DD saw "big, dumb ship" and turned brain off.
WOW Well done
Iwami next?
I get it for sure i always wanted one lol.
good one
GREAT GAME DUDE!
I started in mid January. Feels like the worst timing...
Scharn is a fun ship, but I like Bismarck better.
I have normal Scharn , to me is a good ship, but your main guns seems weak in most cases. ..
Yep, Penetrating shells are kinda useless, and accuracy and fire chance doesn't imorove neither, but at least we got torpedoes, 2 depth chagues atacks, fighters, engine booster and some more stuff
Such a great looking ship at full speed, good game considering the guns are kinda meh.
Seeing Scharn '43's in game now is discouraging. You can tell a lot of them haven't played the game very long.
GERMAN ENGINEERING BEST SEKAI ICHI!!!
And still no hydro, thanks WG.
Takes so long to kill a sub and when there’s six of them, a BB might as well go home. I like my regular Scharnhorst, not sure I want this one. Tempted.
Sharnhorst was really good and brawly ship
Thoe as often is the case with 43 variants....they aren't the greatest and things had to made gimmicky
Awesome game.
08:52 "saving" your torps for a 3k hp baBByship
then unloading your HE salvo into the belt armor of the other BB
would not raise any eyebrows from a generic random idiot
yet, ladies and gentlemen this is the gameplay of a full time professional WOWS youtuber
He literaly did everything bad lol, should have shoot the superstructure of the lowest hp and send the torpedoes to the other one
LOL. These thing powercreeps Odin. 😂
I'm a little disappointed the camo is the same as the original scharny
Nice mode
OMG