Blucher was insane; he believed a French grenadier had impregnated him with an elephant. The king of Prussia was asked why he made a madman comander in chief; he said because he beats Napolean (8 times before the 100 days).
This is a fantastic set. If I wasn’t so damn slow at painting the British starter, I’d definitely get this, too. But at the rate I’m going, I’ll be painting one army for at least 8 months. Not happening
The lance was dropped by most European nations around 1600, as the effectiveness of pistols were much greater and the ranks increased from one or two to much deeper formations. Except for the poles, who kept their lances and thinner formations. Over the next two centuries the armour got less and less and the sword was used more. The tactical formations went from 6 to 8 deep to thinner formations of three ranks. The lance was still not reintroduced, mostly because it was not in fashion. The (freNch) cavalery was much more formed like the Hungarian hussars, their sabbres were adopted, it not their traditional lance and pistol and carbines were added. The poles and their lances sided with Napoleon and their performance made the lance fashionable again. During bad weather (read the muskets could not fire) the lance outranged the bayonets of the musket, so they could beat the German square formation. (I would need to look up which battle this was) So it was basically, that the longer pointy sticks perfomed better, when the shooty stick count not fire,where a sword would need to get much closer.
The Cossacks and Hungarian regional Hussars , where Hussars came from used Lances very deftly and when The Dutch were really good at it , they took off in popularity. The Brits didnt get any until after waterloo
Fascinating stuff chaps, thanks! It certainly added to my knowledge of Waterloo, which admittedly was mainly based on on the ABBA song up until this point. This is too diddy for me, but I expect it looks great when all painted up.
That's what I'm waiting for, though I appreciate they're going to have a tough time deciding what to do about the myriad different headress options to include.
@@adamsboringvidsOr Leipzig. In epic would be awesome their infantry aren't hard to paint or put together. Plus imagine formations of Cossacks or Russian infantry plus some really cool commanders to like Bagration
Yeah, me too. So far though they are entirely from the Waterloo campaign - I am not sure they are going to campaigns beyond that any time soon. Maybe they will, but I suspect they would do other periods before that.
@@ModellingforAdvantage a little late but I believe one of the game’s creators said if reception of epic was good enough they have something like a borodino box planned to add Russia and stuff like that
I have the French and British Black Powder starter sets. All figures look the same to me. Unless you want to paint them, you can fortunately tell them apart due to the fact that the British are all in red and the french are all in blue.
I Usually try to build army from the big box deals, only buying smaller sets to pad out the force with variety once I know how to play the game properly and have a good idea what I might want.
Downside with flags is the omission of any of the East Prussian infantry regiments. They could have done so easily as well, the French banner sheet is larger, side by side they could have kept the same size paper and added the missing units on. Strange decision in my mind. Unless they will bring out another flag sheet that is.
@@ModellingforAdvantage It does appear that no E. Prussian line regiments fought in the Waterloo campaign at all! I suppose I will have to invest in another companies flags to get my 1813 armies flagged up!
@@ModellingforAdvantage Yes. Uniforms, packs,shako’s, water. bottles etc. often different for each Battalion. As for fire arms I’m not sure as munitions would have been a problem, unless they were made for Prussian munitions or they supplied munitions to British specs. The navy would have no trouble landing supplies into the Baltic ports
We started it for Covid reasons, and kinda have not gone back yet - still deciding if it is a better way of doing it as side by side was wierd for different reasons.
@@ModellingforAdvantage There wasn't one of the German states that was 'in charge' of the other states in the Confederation, France was the 'Protector' of the states that were part of the Confederation. It also wasn't a 'state' or singular political entity as you alluded to, clue's in the name really. Not an insult really just pointing out what you said was nonsense, as it is.
@Iain Fuller Yep, and someone else was the First Prince, the Prince Primate. I also quite clearly said notionally. Not sure how that comes across as nonsense to you. I definitely git the title wrong, but then again, I said I wasn't sure about that in the video.
Blucher was insane; he believed a French grenadier had impregnated him with an elephant. The king of Prussia was asked why he made a madman comander in chief; he said because he beats Napolean (8 times before the 100 days).
A solid reason to select him I think!
This is a fantastic set. If I wasn’t so damn slow at painting the British starter, I’d definitely get this, too. But at the rate I’m going, I’ll be painting one army for at least 8 months. Not happening
I know what you mean mate.
Fantastic Waterloo campaign commentary.
Many thanks!
Officially the Landwehre didn’t carry Colours but they made their own. Painted on cloth, some embroidered, but most not.
The lance was dropped by most European nations around 1600, as the effectiveness of pistols were much greater and the ranks increased from one or two to much deeper formations. Except for the poles, who kept their lances and thinner formations.
Over the next two centuries the armour got less and less and the sword was used more. The tactical formations went from 6 to 8 deep to thinner formations of three ranks.
The lance was still not reintroduced, mostly because it was not in fashion. The (freNch) cavalery was much more formed like the Hungarian hussars, their sabbres were adopted, it not their traditional lance and pistol and carbines were added.
The poles and their lances sided with Napoleon and their performance made the lance fashionable again. During bad weather (read the muskets could not fire) the lance outranged the bayonets of the musket, so they could beat the German square formation. (I would need to look up which battle this was)
So it was basically, that the longer pointy sticks perfomed better, when the shooty stick count not fire,where a sword would need to get much closer.
Interesting, thanks for the info.
The Cossacks and Hungarian regional Hussars , where Hussars came from used Lances very deftly and when The Dutch were really good at it , they took off in popularity. The Brits didnt get any until after waterloo
@@Rusty_Gold85 ,
That was surprising really as the lance was particularly effective against irregular infantry and cavalry.
Again great stuff and the history chat is great for novice on the subject like me 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
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Why thank you
Good unboxing, with the usual bonus history lesson. 👍👍👍
Thank you 🤗 Sometimes I can;t help myself but waffle on.
18:30 "and their own sticks". Cracked me up! XD
Us too, you notice the cut there.
Fascinating stuff chaps, thanks! It certainly added to my knowledge of Waterloo, which admittedly was mainly based on on the ABBA song up until this point. This is too diddy for me, but I expect it looks great when all painted up.
Thanks for sharing, now I too have that song swimming in my head!
I've been very tempted to get my hands on some of these, your videos are making it harder to resist 😆
HAHAHA Sorry!!
@@ModellingforAdvantage you better be 🤣
Awesome look guys,I'd like to see a Austrian starter set
Me too.
That's what I'm waiting for, though I appreciate they're going to have a tough time deciding what to do about the myriad different headress options to include.
I wonder if they plan and do Napoleon’s Russian campaign Borodino would be especially epic!
@@adamsboringvidsOr Leipzig.
In epic would be awesome their infantry aren't hard to paint or put together.
Plus imagine formations of Cossacks or Russian infantry plus some really cool commanders to like Bagration
I really hope they do other armies like Austrians or Russians
Yeah, me too. So far though they are entirely from the Waterloo campaign - I am not sure they are going to campaigns beyond that any time soon. Maybe they will, but I suspect they would do other periods before that.
@@ModellingforAdvantage or anything involving Prussia and Britain''
@@ModellingforAdvantage a little late but I believe one of the game’s creators said if reception of epic was good enough they have something like a borodino box planned to add Russia and stuff like that
@@ethanmeiring7128 that would be great if they did that.
Great reveiw and historical discussion! For a $100 start set it seems ok vaule wise to not the best but ok.
Maybe I was taken in by the windmill!
Really like the nuggets of historical info in your videos !
Lovely minis too
Glad you like them!
Good solid review well done chaps
Much appreciated old bean.
Great review, learnt so much from this.
Glad it was helpful!
I have the French and British Black Powder starter sets. All figures look the same to me. Unless you want to paint them, you can fortunately tell them apart due to the fact that the British are all in red and the french are all in blue.
Yeah, the colours are a big part of the appeal of this scale with sooo much painting to do otherwise.
Very good information 👏👏
Thank you.
Do you ever find when building an army to buy a second box or buy the more unit targeted boxes. These large boxes look very cost effective.
I Usually try to build army from the big box deals, only buying smaller sets to pad out the force with variety once I know how to play the game properly and have a good idea what I might want.
thanks@@ModellingforAdvantage
Downside with flags is the omission of any of the East Prussian infantry regiments. They could have done so easily as well, the French banner sheet is larger, side by side they could have kept the same size paper and added the missing units on. Strange decision in my mind. Unless they will bring out another flag sheet that is.
Interesting, is that because those units did not appear in the battle? I know the army after reforms was brigaded on regional grounds.
@@ModellingforAdvantage It does appear that no E. Prussian line regiments fought in the Waterloo campaign at all! I suppose I will have to invest in another companies flags to get my 1813 armies flagged up!
Nice unboxing
Appreciate it
Is this a one and done? Because I'm so keen to get this and the commanders
Britain supplied many of the Reserve regiments
The equipment for them I assume you mean...
@@ModellingforAdvantage
Yes. Uniforms, packs,shako’s, water. bottles etc. often different for each Battalion.
As for fire arms I’m not sure as munitions would have been a problem, unless they were made for Prussian munitions or they supplied munitions to British specs.
The navy would have no trouble landing supplies into the Baltic ports
No Prussian guard regiments at Ligny, Wavre, Plancenoit or Waterloo. A ording to any OB that I have.
Yeah, it looks like they were not there. They are on the army roster though, a few regiments existed, but evidently did not make it into this army.
Are these 28mm
No sorry, these are about 13.5mm.
@@ModellingforAdvantage oh ok
Your camera and sitting arrangement has me nonplussed . I thought is was different houses via zoom
We started it for Covid reasons, and kinda have not gone back yet - still deciding if it is a better way of doing it as side by side was wierd for different reasons.
Anyone tried converting these to Russians? Need some help converting the dragoons to something for them
I have not seen that done, but it might be alright for the later period, post Austerlitz
You really need to read up more on the Confederation of the Rhine, better to say nothing than total nonsense!
Would you care to elaborate, or just stick with unsubstantiated insult?
@@ModellingforAdvantage There wasn't one of the German states that was 'in charge' of the other states in the Confederation, France was the 'Protector' of the states that were part of the Confederation. It also wasn't a 'state' or singular political entity as you alluded to, clue's in the name really. Not an insult really just pointing out what you said was nonsense, as it is.
@Iain Fuller Yep, and someone else was the First Prince, the Prince Primate. I also quite clearly said notionally. Not sure how that comes across as nonsense to you. I definitely git the title wrong, but then again, I said I wasn't sure about that in the video.