If Sam would diversify his vocal delivery and melody then my listening experience would’ve been a lot better. Every chorus blends with each other on every track and it gets grating after the the first couple of songs. It’s sad when you know what these guys are capable of and they go and put this out
@@themetalmeltdownofficial great can't wait my dude! Hope you don't lose your liver after this! May I recommend some aloe vera juice I hear it helps flush bad stuff out of their!
To me the last great album from Architects is Holy Hell, with how they turned a painful tragedy into a heartbreaking and powerful album. After this my opinion of their albums ranges to forgettable. This album is proof though that they are starting to get weaker. I do think ending at Holy Hell would have been a great decision honestly.
I’ve been a fan of this band since Lost Forever / Lost Together. I appreciated the last album even though it was different, but I can’t stand by this one. It was a pain to get through, I found myself struggling with every single song, with the exception of “Burn Down My House”, the only song I could vibe with. Each song can’t tell what they wanted to be, and they feel longer than they actually are. I’m severely underwhelmed with this album, which is a damn shame because LF/LT, AOGHAU, Holy Hell and even FTTWTE were a great 4 hit combo in my opinion. This was a massive disappointment through and through. I was contemplating buying a physical copy of this album but after listening, I can’t spend money on this shit. Just a shit show all the way through.
I don't want to trash the band or anything (I appreciate every artist and think they should express their creativity in the way they find fitting), but given how popular/mainstream they are, I though the underwhelming impression I got after listening their singles had to be just due to my "inability" to "understand" the direction the modern metal is heading.. Now I'm glad is wasn't just me :)
Exactly right. That album is just an arena rock/butt rock snooze fiesta. Shame when bands go full boring. The meta of alt. metal influences is so boring to me. Good review.
Lmao check out their earlier stuff if you're down. Namely Hollow Crown, The Here & Now, and Daybreaker. Significantly better, no Imagine Dragons-core to be found.
Yay, glad to find someone else who isn't just mild on this record but actually dislikes it. I'm a fan of Architects, been for quite awhile, like-to-love all of their albums outside of the previous one, but it had its moments, I didn't thought it was as bad as some people said it was, it just wasn't really Architects to me. I'd be fine if after Holy Hell they just stopped as Architects, that was a good note to end on and tribute their friend and guitarist Tom Searl. But this new album? A New Moral Low Ground aside- I think it awful. Bland stock radiocore with nothing-to-bad writing, overblown production, buttrock riffs, Sam sounds like anyone else in the scene and...look, I know how it looks when a fan of the band says "they don't sound like themselves anymore", I'm not saying that I just wanted them to replicate LF//LT until the end of time, I'm fine with them doing new things. The problem is, things they doing just don't work. 2-3/10. All IMO of course.
I actually liked the ending of a new moral low ground, I thought the breakdown guitar tone was kinda sweet. It makes me think there's something there y'know? To me it captured a little bit of creativity and energy I wish went further. My recurring impression of the album was that the breakdowns sounded good usually. There was usually something about them that I liked. I kept wishing the songs started with that kind of energy and further built on it somehow. The choruses and writing were my biggest problems on this album.
What album would one recommend to get into Architects for the first time? I know their music kinda, but never listened to an album. Been a fan of Josh Middleton tho since WAY back in Sylosis days- 2008. I gravitate towards the heavier side of things, but get down with melody too.
Thanks dudes. I started Daybreaker. So far, they haven’t hit with me yet. Hence the reason I haven’t devoted much time to them. Maybe I need a particular raging song to get my hyped, cuz I haven’t even found one of those yet
They have talented people in the band. Josh Middleton joining the band should've made them better but somehow they got worse wasting his talent. At least we still have SYLOSIS
@@themetalmeltdownofficial facts but they did release a new song over a month again and Josh said a new album is on the way so fingers crossed it's sooner than later haha
Guilty pleasure ? I like it… I did cry about them not being aggressive anymore, but I can listen to this album when wanting to hear something more pop, since I hate actual pop… And if I do feel the need, the new Lorna shore is out ! Of course, hollow crown, lost forever, holly hell are my favourites and really hard to top them !
I don't necessarily HATE this album (I really like the singles + the closer) but overall I was very uninterested by it. Other than "deep fake", "a new moral low ground", and "be very afraid" I probably won't come back to this.
I kind of enjoy listening to the album but it is true I can't be bothered to give it an active listen. Everytime I tried, I got bored. It's fine as background music while I am doing something because it somehow flows nicely and doesn't command attention. However I am not actually sure whether it is a good or bad thing. 🤷♂
I'm gonna copy and paste my comment that i left on the Metal Trenches Review of the album I Was willing to give this album a chance, and i did....And its quite literally one of the worst albums of 2022, if not Top 10, Where do i even begin? the mixing is atrocious, downright quite at times even at the highest volumes, the vocals are absolutely horrendous, and its a fucking joke, and speaking of vocals, just because Oliver Sykes are able to pull of...whatever the hell Sam Carter is trying to do, it doesn't mean he can pull off that same vocal deliveries, seriously some of them are either laughable or extremely irritating, and speaking of irritating, the lyrics, MY, GOD, The lyrics are... there's is no words to describe the lyrics, so i let a RUclips clip speak for itself ruclips.net/video/umDr0mPuyQc/видео.html By the way, i relistened to For Those That Wish To Exist, and while i still think its an okay album, comparing TCSOABS to FTTWTE, the latter fucking knocks this one out of the ring, at least FTTWTE had its moments, this one doesn't, not one single song makes me want to re-listen to the album, or just pick out the individual songs that i kind of thought is okay to re-listen to those, seriously, not one song is good on this album, and i genuinely mean that, Not the singles, not the deep cuts, nothing, not one riff, not one chorus, nothing, and side note, how long did it take to make this album? if we take into account of touring and promoting the previous album, maybe they had, at best, a year to make this album? and it really does show, because newsflash. Not every artist is able to make banger after banger in such a short time, For Example, Undead Corporation released 22 LPs in 13 Years, and while some are weaker than others, their LPs are still great, and instead of this band taking their time, to maybe iron out the album better, they released it the way it is, and then they had the AUDACITY to outright Gaslight their own audience on FACEBOOK of all places, who By the way, even they questioned why the album sounds garbage, speaks volumes how much this band has fallen At best, on a scale of 1 to 10, this is a 0, its just time wasting for anyone, for the casual fans and even the long time fans alike, if they don't start to turn things around i don't see a good future for the band.
It might be a harsh thing to say but I feel like Tom would be rolling in his grave if he heard the new sound of Architects. Like damn all our gods have abandoned us and holy hell were miles and miles ahead in terms of sound compared to this dumpster fire. But honestly one of the best songwriters being dead (Tom) isn't the only reason they fell off in terms of sound. AOGHAU and Holy hell were the last songs that had Tom's amazing writing but I feel like architects wanted to hit mainstream buttrock or something after holy hell which was a major downgrade to their sound. I know what they're capable of, they used to be my favourite band but this garbage has to go or I'm not going to give their newer stuff a chance anymore.
normally I disagree with a lot of your takes but you nailed it on the head with this one. I can’t defend them anymore lol I couldn’t even get through the whole thing and they were one of my favorite metal bands at one point. What pisses me off is like we know what they’re capable of, Dan Searle has layed down some of my favorite drum tracks in the genre. In this album it sounds like they amputated his left foot before letting him step in the studio. Almost every song on this album is 4 on the floor and boring. They’ve fully embraced the Imagine Dragons-core trend and it’s so disappointing.
Are they though? I’ve barely seen anyone praising the new album, even the die hard Architects fans know that this isn’t what a lot of us want from them.
@@DarrenHeywood They can be - I dared to speak ill of their previous album last year and got my ass handed to me on a silver platter lmao. But yeah, so far, this time around, seems like everyones in agreement on this being hella-lame-as-fuck.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial imagine people losing their shit over someone criticising an album. Much less, an album like For Those That Wish to Exist lmao.
100%…Dude is not being showcased here and it’s a tragedy. I’m glad they are experimenting, bands should be. However, this ain’t it for me. I’ll never understand why they went so far astray from their core sound and identity when it worked so well. You can still have thy identity and try new things. Holy hell and AOGHAU were too notch and just brilliant albums all around.
yknow i'm more experienced with film/show reviews but i completely get what you mean when you say its weird to think that architects older records are so much more creative. its like "what the hell happened over the years, surely you knew you were doing *something* right??"
I don't really listen to architects I've heard of one of their songs and imo they sound like a mediocre converge (mainly a meh version of Jane Doe era converge)
Skipped over every single song halfway through... Terrible!!! Toms brother needs to give up the writing because he's god awful and ruining this group. I can't even wear my AOGHAU and LTLF merch anymore...
if they change, they change. If something’s wrong, the fans’ll let them know and they will try to change it. It’s meant to be experimental and them trying new things. i give the album credit for the experimentation and the things they are trying. Yes, the songs sound the same. Yes, the lyrics are generic, but they have changed and it’s best to give new things a chance.
If Sam would diversify his vocal delivery and melody then my listening experience would’ve been a lot better. Every chorus blends with each other on every track and it gets grating after the the first couple of songs.
It’s sad when you know what these guys are capable of and they go and put this out
Dont think they're capable of writing good music anymore because their songwriter died
I smell another angry comments drinking game already...
Liquor cabinet is already stocked, just in case.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial great can't wait my dude! Hope you don't lose your liver after this! May I recommend some aloe vera juice I hear it helps flush bad stuff out of their!
To me the last great album from Architects is Holy Hell, with how they turned a painful tragedy into a heartbreaking and powerful album.
After this my opinion of their albums ranges to forgettable. This album is proof though that they are starting to get weaker.
I do think ending at Holy Hell would have been a great decision honestly.
I’ve been a fan of this band since Lost Forever / Lost Together. I appreciated the last album even though it was different, but I can’t stand by this one. It was a pain to get through, I found myself struggling with every single song, with the exception of “Burn Down My House”, the only song I could vibe with. Each song can’t tell what they wanted to be, and they feel longer than they actually are. I’m severely underwhelmed with this album, which is a damn shame because LF/LT, AOGHAU, Holy Hell and even FTTWTE were a great 4 hit combo in my opinion. This was a massive disappointment through and through. I was contemplating buying a physical copy of this album but after listening, I can’t spend money on this shit. Just a shit show all the way through.
Agree with pretty much everything. It feels like they said “bmth did it so we can too”
I don't want to trash the band or anything (I appreciate every artist and think they should express their creativity in the way they find fitting), but given how popular/mainstream they are, I though the underwhelming impression I got after listening their singles had to be just due to my "inability" to "understand" the direction the modern metal is heading.. Now I'm glad is wasn't just me :)
MiW, PWD, Architects,...mainstream metalcore is pretty weak this year.
Makes me sad I grew up loving all 3 of these now I can’t even bear to listen :(
Yeah I don't even bother with architects anymore it's a shame
I liked older Architects but after Holy Hell this band fell off hard. This album and the last album were such a chore to get through.
Weird what popularity and promise of money do to creativity. Capitalism and good art are oil and water.
Exactly right. That album is just an arena rock/butt rock snooze fiesta. Shame when bands go full boring. The meta of alt. metal influences is so boring to me. Good review.
Never listened to a song from this band, and "Imagine Dragons core" definitely didn't sell me on them lol.
Lmao check out their earlier stuff if you're down. Namely Hollow Crown, The Here & Now, and Daybreaker. Significantly better, no Imagine Dragons-core to be found.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial I'll do that then
How are you gonna have titles like “Born Again Pessimist” and “A New Moral Low Ground” and not have them be heavy as hell?
God bless my big empty heart😔💔
Yay, glad to find someone else who isn't just mild on this record but actually dislikes it. I'm a fan of Architects, been for quite awhile, like-to-love all of their albums outside of the previous one, but it had its moments, I didn't thought it was as bad as some people said it was, it just wasn't really Architects to me. I'd be fine if after Holy Hell they just stopped as Architects, that was a good note to end on and tribute their friend and guitarist Tom Searl. But this new album? A New Moral Low Ground aside- I think it awful. Bland stock radiocore with nothing-to-bad writing, overblown production, buttrock riffs, Sam sounds like anyone else in the scene and...look, I know how it looks when a fan of the band says "they don't sound like themselves anymore", I'm not saying that I just wanted them to replicate LF//LT until the end of time, I'm fine with them doing new things. The problem is, things they doing just don't work. 2-3/10. All IMO of course.
Exactly how I feel fam. Took the words right outta me
I actually liked the ending of a new moral low ground, I thought the breakdown guitar tone was kinda sweet. It makes me think there's something there y'know? To me it captured a little bit of creativity and energy I wish went further. My recurring impression of the album was that the breakdowns sounded good usually. There was usually something about them that I liked. I kept wishing the songs started with that kind of energy and further built on it somehow. The choruses and writing were my biggest problems on this album.
What album would one recommend to get into Architects for the first time? I know their music kinda, but never listened to an album. Been a fan of Josh Middleton tho since WAY back in Sylosis days- 2008. I gravitate towards the heavier side of things, but get down with melody too.
Lost Forever // Lost Together (2014)
All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us (2016)
Holy Hell (2018)
Personally I'd recommend Hollow Crown, The Here & Now, and Daybreaker. Their best albums in my opinion.
Thanks dudes. I started Daybreaker. So far, they haven’t hit with me yet. Hence the reason I haven’t devoted much time to them. Maybe I need a particular raging song to get my hyped, cuz I haven’t even found one of those yet
Cant wait for the architect fanboys to discover this
same
Let me guess on Architects next album. They completely turned into pop rock with influences from Maroon 5.
Honestly I could see that happening. I think in instance too, I'd rather go listen to Maron 5 lmao
They have talented people in the band. Josh Middleton joining the band should've made them better but somehow they got worse wasting his talent. At least we still have SYLOSIS
Yeah but Sylosis doesnt do fuck all anymore 😭
@@themetalmeltdownofficial facts but they did release a new song over a month again and Josh said a new album is on the way so fingers crossed it's sooner than later haha
Guilty pleasure ? I like it…
I did cry about them not being aggressive anymore, but I can listen to this album when wanting to hear something more pop, since I hate actual pop…
And if I do feel the need, the new Lorna shore is out !
Of course, hollow crown, lost forever, holly hell are my favourites and really hard to top them !
You'd probably like the new berried alive album
Yeah I feel the same. It's bad but I love this album as a guilty pleasure
Architects are the new Asking Alexandria
Why is this so accurate?
@@AstolfoTheRiderOfBlack Because its the truth.
Hell nah more like 2015 bring me the horizon and I say that as a former architects fan. RIP Tom
I understand your opinion and although I disagree with it. You were honest on how you felt on this album.
Remember kids, if you're looking to use a trash can sounding snare for your record, take notes from Artificial Brain
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I don't necessarily HATE this album (I really like the singles + the closer) but overall I was very uninterested by it. Other than "deep fake", "a new moral low ground", and "be very afraid" I probably won't come back to this.
I kind of enjoy listening to the album but it is true I can't be bothered to give it an active listen. Everytime I tried, I got bored. It's fine as background music while I am doing something because it somehow flows nicely and doesn't command attention. However I am not actually sure whether it is a good or bad thing. 🤷♂
I miss when Holy Hell came out :(
Wasn't bored with this and I do agree with the mentioned highlights you have with said album!
I'm gonna copy and paste my comment that i left on the Metal Trenches Review of the album
I Was willing to give this album a chance, and i did....And its quite literally one of the worst albums of 2022, if not Top 10,
Where do i even begin? the mixing is atrocious, downright quite at times even at the highest volumes, the vocals are absolutely horrendous, and its a fucking joke, and speaking of vocals, just because Oliver Sykes are able to pull of...whatever the hell Sam Carter is trying to do, it doesn't mean he can pull off that same vocal deliveries, seriously some of them are either laughable or extremely irritating, and speaking of irritating, the lyrics, MY, GOD, The lyrics are... there's is no words to describe the lyrics, so i let a RUclips clip speak for itself
ruclips.net/video/umDr0mPuyQc/видео.html
By the way, i relistened to For Those That Wish To Exist, and while i still think its an okay album, comparing TCSOABS to FTTWTE, the latter fucking knocks this one out of the ring, at least FTTWTE had its moments, this one doesn't, not one single song makes me want to re-listen to the album, or just pick out the individual songs that i kind of thought is okay to re-listen to those, seriously, not one song is good on this album, and i genuinely mean that, Not the singles, not the deep cuts, nothing, not one riff, not one chorus, nothing, and side note, how long did it take to make this album? if we take into account of touring and promoting the previous album, maybe they had, at best, a year to make this album? and it really does show, because newsflash. Not every artist is able to make banger after banger in such a short time, For Example, Undead Corporation released 22 LPs in 13 Years, and while some are weaker than others, their LPs are still great, and instead of this band taking their time, to maybe iron out the album better, they released it the way it is, and then they had the AUDACITY to outright Gaslight their own audience on FACEBOOK of all places, who By the way, even they questioned why the album sounds garbage, speaks volumes how much this band has fallen
At best, on a scale of 1 to 10, this is a 0, its just time wasting for anyone, for the casual fans and even the long time fans alike, if they don't start to turn things around i don't see a good future for the band.
Watched some Fantano?
It might be a harsh thing to say but I feel like Tom would be rolling in his grave if he heard the new sound of Architects. Like damn all our gods have abandoned us and holy hell were miles and miles ahead in terms of sound compared to this dumpster fire. But honestly one of the best songwriters being dead (Tom) isn't the only reason they fell off in terms of sound. AOGHAU and Holy hell were the last songs that had Tom's amazing writing but I feel like architects wanted to hit mainstream buttrock or something after holy hell which was a major downgrade to their sound. I know what they're capable of, they used to be my favourite band but this garbage has to go or I'm not going to give their newer stuff a chance anymore.
So many fantastic albums were released this month. This is not one of them.
normally I disagree with a lot of your takes but you nailed it on the head with this one. I can’t defend them anymore lol I couldn’t even get through the whole thing and they were one of my favorite metal bands at one point. What pisses me off is like we know what they’re capable of, Dan Searle has layed down some of my favorite drum tracks in the genre. In this album it sounds like they amputated his left foot before letting him step in the studio. Almost every song on this album is 4 on the floor and boring. They’ve fully embraced the Imagine Dragons-core trend and it’s so disappointing.
I don't agree with any of this sentiment. I'm a big fan of the sound and the progress the band has made. Just my opinion.
The comments are going to be entertaining
you might need a drinking game for this one Robert. their fans are vicious
Bring it on 😈😈😈
Are they though? I’ve barely seen anyone praising the new album, even the die hard Architects fans know that this isn’t what a lot of us want from them.
@@DarrenHeywood They can be - I dared to speak ill of their previous album last year and got my ass handed to me on a silver platter lmao. But yeah, so far, this time around, seems like everyones in agreement on this being hella-lame-as-fuck.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial imagine people losing their shit over someone criticising an album. Much less, an album like For Those That Wish to Exist lmao.
@@DarrenHeywood Their fans, pretty much, became equivalent to that of BMTH.
The worst part about this tragedy is Josh Middleton being wasted playing in this band.
100%…Dude is not being showcased here and it’s a tragedy. I’m glad they are experimenting, bands should be. However, this ain’t it for me. I’ll never understand why they went so far astray from their core sound and identity when it worked so well. You can still have thy identity and try new things. Holy hell and AOGHAU were too notch and just brilliant albums all around.
Fully agree with this review. The album acually comes across as very lazy and the band probably knows it.
yknow i'm more experienced with film/show reviews but i completely get what you mean when you say its weird to think that architects older records are so much more creative. its like "what the hell happened over the years, surely you knew you were doing *something* right??"
A metalcore album from 2022 that I found to be lame and over-produced, nothing new to me....
Anyways, Brutus has a new album and it's really good :D
Yeeee im jamming it now actually, its good.
Unison life?
@@sexyxavier yep
Oh yeah, new Brutus album is so good!
love this album, but lets not even try to defend it. It's not great, objectively lol
I have no clue how a band goes from the highs of Holy Hell to this. 🤮🤮🤮
Yeah, this just wasn’t good. I love Architects and this just wasn’t it. Can’t wait to see how angry the fanboys get on this one.
Pure facts with this review
Awesome Robocop shirt! 🤘
Its also a Pig Destroyer shirt, mega badass.
I don't really listen to architects I've heard of one of their songs and imo they sound like a mediocre converge (mainly a meh version of Jane Doe era converge)
Skipped over every single song halfway through... Terrible!!! Toms brother needs to give up the writing because he's god awful and ruining this group. I can't even wear my AOGHAU and LTLF merch anymore...
It sounds bad too, I mean the mix
Man I love sylosis
Such a great band. Wish they were more active.
For those who wish to exist was album of the year 2021. This record is just ass.
"Aaron" Carter? 🤧
I'm so excited about giving this a fat zero out of five
0/5! Worst than the last album!
This album is fire loved it it’s my second favorite
I hope you’re okay
@@lewisanderson5771 Doin great rockin out to some architects
if they change, they change. If something’s wrong, the fans’ll let them know and they will try to change it. It’s meant to be experimental and them trying new things. i give the album credit for the experimentation and the things they are trying. Yes, the songs sound the same. Yes, the lyrics are generic, but they have changed and it’s best to give new things a chance.
Im glad im not a fan of them so i dont have to give the record a try