Why Don’t Planes Carry Parachutes?
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Because the last time a pilot brought a parachute onboard, he kamikazed the plane for a ridge wallet sponsorship
What?
Man, I forgot about that one.
I think we'd all like to forget.
@@arcticthehunter7099 Its a reference to the Trevor Jacob plane crash story
@@AlkalineGamingHDfirst time I knew about this story. Damn.
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Way back in the day I was an instructor pilot and flew a T-38 (old supersonic trainer) to a civilian airport. The plane broke and I had to take a commercial flight home and was told to bring my parachute back with me. I got on the plane with my helmet, parachute, flight suit, etc. and the pilot looked at me and said "what, you don't trust me?"
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Lmfao
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T38 ain't old ur old! and the b52 is old but in all fairness my mother is old
@@murdercom998 All three are old, unfortunately! :) The T-38 entered service in 1959.
As a former paratrooper don’t forget to jump behind the engines
Depends on a plane. If you’re flying Il-76, then you jump IN FRONT of the engines
Was just gonna comment ,look at all the training paratroopers go through just to do basic line jumps.
Did you learn it the hard way?:)
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6:53 There's a really good reason the TSA lets you bring a parachute on the plane: us parachuters like to travel to other places to skydive sometimes.
It's also not a dangerous item, so there is no reason to ban it from being taken on an airplane.
“Us parachuters”? I don’t think you are a skydiver
Thank you for writing this, I left a similar comment.
And we'd really rather keep it within sight instead of letting TSA and luggage handlers do who knows what to it while it's in checked luggage.
I check the paraglider because it packs up real well in the harness with the reserve parachute. It'd be kinda Ironic to die in plane crash with a parachute in the hold lol.
Redundancy, 5:37 "every critial system is going to be at least double or triple redundant." Except of course MCAS, which Boeing decided could rely on a single sensor because it saved them money.
It was also more of a bandaid than an actual feature, which probably contributed to the lack of redundancy.
That wasn't as bad as a problem as them not telling pilots about MCAS AT ALL during transition training because they thought it would save the airlines money.
My hypothesis is that countries with stronger pilots' unions immediately smelled the BS and those unions advised their pilots to learn about MCAS independently.
Exactly what I was thinking. Video is more like "yeah there's nothing you can do, you're doomed" than it is "flying is safe you don't need a parachute" .🤣
It took data from one specific sensor, but there are two of that _type_ of sensor aboard.
Boeing needs to be fined HEAVILY.
3:42 and this is why i strap 50kg weights too myself whenever I am flying, get my moneys worth
you are insane and i love it
@@bagseys i do get additional screening every time but it's worth it
That’s why I’ve fatten my self up. Making this god damn plane suffer for daring to carry my 200kg ass
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It is frustrating, that fat people don't have to pay more than me, so I always make sure to stuff my coat pockets with used batteries etc to be as heavy as possible and cost the airline more fuel!!!111
Don't forget Sam from jetlag the game is technically the same too
this is false propaganda
No he isn't! That Sam actually has a body whereas Sam from HAI and Sam from Wendover are just disembodied voices. Very different people!
I heard they are like cousins or something.
sam from jet lag is the person that the disembodied voices of hai and wendover same drive when they have to go to events
One other thing that he didn't mention: You can't open the exterior door at 35,000 feet. Unless the plane has already been depressurized and somehow you're not dead, those doors are designed to move inward before turning open. Due to the nature of air pressure being higher inside the plane than outside, this would make it impossible for a person to open the door at that high altitude while the plane is pressurized, because all that pressure is pushing out, thus making the door going inward not possible since there's very little pressure on the outside pushing in. Some crazy passengers have tried to open the emergency door mid-flight and all of them could not do it.
All that thanks to DB Cooper, most possibly.
Ok just jump out when it's lower?
@@sonoftheway3528do you have the force?! You’re able to control how low planes are when they crash? That’s so cool 😮
@@Bob-the-1-and-only-blob-fish There's an argument to be made here, and it's not the one you made. I can in fact predict with 100% accuracy where the plane will crash: on the ground. He suggests doing it above ground, but below untenable pressure.
@@slyseal2091 amazing move
Oh no, sam found a way to talk about planes again
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planes are fun!
I’m not mad though
At least it wasn't bricks (today)
Skydiver here. TSA lets us bring parachutes on board because we like to travel with our rigs to different countries sometimes. It's usually better to check it, but it's very expensive gear so some people naturally do not want just leave in the airlines hands and hope for the best,
Yeah, I don't trust my $5-10k skydiving rig to be a checked bag when I've gotten bags full of clothes lost by them before.
And they definitely won't reimburse you for the full price if they lose it. I think the max reimbursement is like 2k?
@@rapid___ There's a video about lost luggage with AirTag, which concludes for the handling company it's better option (easier? cheaper? quicker? all of the above?) just to reimburse you than actually look for the lost item - even if you kinda know where to look.
@@mikiqex please read the 2nd half of the message you're replying to. :)
HAI: Everything on a plane is double or triple redundant
Boeing: Hold my beer...
No mention of D. B. Cooper? He hijacked a 727 and managed to successfully parachute out of it, after instructing the pilot to fly at low altitude, low speed, and with an unpressurized cabin.
To be fair: as far as i recall we don't know if Cooper survived his jump.
This plane had a rear stair door, which is probably the best possible design you could have for such a feat (and no modern airliners have anymore). And yeah also we have no idea if he actually survived or not.
@@Joshimuz Now *that* would have indeed be interesting to have heard in this video
For a minute there, I thought everybody forgot. 😉
It's said this stunt got the CIA to call up Boeing and ask about acquiring a 727 of their own - and no, they didn't tell Boeing why they wanted an airliner with a jump door.
Thank you. I was about to parachute yesterday from my Boeing 777- 300ER Emirates flight from Dubai and this video managed to stop me from doing it or even thinking of doing it in the future. Thank you sir.
Wait so you're a time traveler?
You almost had it but you got hoisted by your own petard.
Was about going to do the same on a Pan American Boeing 707-320C but decided not to do it cuz the jet engine is too loud.
How would you have seen the video yesterday stupid? I just came out 2 hours ago.
Flexing that you can afford to fly?
There's another reason: more people will die if planes have parachutes. That's because ticket prices would have to go up like 10% or thereabouts. If you study consumer behavior, a few percent of people will instead drive rather than fly at those higher prices. And guess what-- driving is thousands of times more hazardous than flying. So more people would die if planes had parachutes. Weird, but perfectly logical.
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Right, and that's the real next step of "lower margins mean...". It means that, for some passengers, the cost (price) of flying raises to a point where they'd now no longer fly. Which is bad for business AND for the customers.
@@8stormy5 Only if folks still leave their house, with the price of fuel these days driving any further than the local grocery store isn't affordable (and frankly given the price of groceries these days even that short drive isn't affordable either).
People keep quoting the "statistic" that planes are safer, but at this point I am certain it is out of content and made by boing....
@@cactusmann5542It's not that planes are safe (they are, relatively), it's that driving is really dangerous.
An autopilot becoming evil is something that never crossed my mind
737 Max.
I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
That is kind of what happened to Qantas Flight 72.
Wait till they introduce AI autopilots 😬
737 max 8:"*Allow me to introduce myself*"
I think it's funny that so many people think planes should have parachutes, but nobody wears a helmet in the car.
Fighter pilots kinda have a parachute, and racing drivers usually wear helmets ;)
Common cars are equipped with airbags and seatbelt.
You dont fly thousands of feet in the air and having a crash is usually not fatal because you have a seatbelt and airbags
This is ridiculous bro. Non-equivalent situations entirely. Driving is an everyday experience taking up a significant portion of your time. Considering the odds of getting in a fatal crash and the discomfort and impracticability of wearing a helmet every time you drive, I don’t think it’s actually that interesting a fact at all l. Also, when the accident begins you are already on the ground, so there isn’t the increased certainty of fatality as there is with an airplane crash, should it ensue.
@@Libroerina It's not that you drive more and thus you're more likely to die from driving. If you're going to be driving for an hour vs flying for an hour, driving is still more dangerous. You also just happen to do it more.
Also, even mechanical failures that occur during cruise are likely survivable.
If the plane is still controllable it can crash at low speed on a corn field or ditch in the Hudson river. If you're in the brace position with your seatbelt on, your odds of survival are better when you stay in your seat vs bailing out and getting sucked into a 3,000 RPM turbine, even if there is a 100% probability that the pilots can't make it to an airport.
And still higher than you somehow got parachute and pretending to be in Warzone
3000 rpm turbine? This isn't a lazy V8. 3000 rpm is way less than even idle.
I do not know what happens in US, but lowcosters in my part of the world have so little legspace for economy class, that I would not be able to get into brace position whatever I do. Seat before me takes that space where I am supposed to lean, i would have to seat vertically in the case of crash landing, and farewell my beloved spine. Seatbelts are only for a sudden turbulence now, I guess.
Yup. A well managed plane crash is likely to be terrifying, uncomfortable, and possibly result in minor injury...but a well managed plane crash is the crash you are most likely to survive.
“I’m telling you, just attach a big parachute TO THE PLANE ITSELF! Is anyone listening to me?!” - Jack Handey
Cirrus aircraft parachute system. CAPS. This is actually a thing in small aircraft, the issue is that the parachutes required to stop at 737 would be ridiculously large and complex. Cirrus had to invent this system so that they can make Vtails because the vtails when they spin cannot be recovered. This is part of why the beechcraft Bonanza gained the title of fork tailed doctor killer.
I'm a pilot. I often tell people who ask, that the airplane's wing IS the parachute. We can glide if the engines fail.
I've heard about this system, didn't it save a few lives when a small plane went down in Utah, California, something like that a few years back? Pretty amazing but you're right, not exactly practical when it comes to a huge jetliner. Even if it weren't impossible, the airlines wouldn't ever invest in it.@@johnb8440
@@bbgun061 much respect to what you do, and that’s a good point. Some amazing stories out there. Sully gets a lot of credit but there was another situation very similar, a flight from South America I believe, that had engine failure after flying through heavy hail and landed safely on a levee near New Orleans. Pretty incredible, I can’t remember the flight though
6:01 That's why Boeing connected the system that caused two 737 MAX planes to crash to a single angle of attack sensor that said they were in a stall!!!
Don't worry, the CEO at the time got a golden parachute.
MCAS sensor
Ok but WHY don’t the planes themselves have singular gigantic parachutes?
Because that wouldn't be enough. The heaviest object that's ever been safety lowered to the ground was about 40 tonnes. A 737/A320 is about that empty, with pax and fuel you're talking between 60-80/90 tonnes
Use three parachutes then
This guy asking the big brain questions
Big Brain hours lmfao
@@tomstravels520nonsense. If 4 penguins can land a plane safely with parachutes, I think we can too
There's also the question of where you would land, having no survival, flotation, or communication equipment.
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If you fell out the the sky survived the fall and managed to have a parachute I don't think you'd care too much about where you landed.
@@swankshire6939 that is assuming you end up on land
@@j1346792/3 of routes are over land, so that's a decent assumption
@@swankshire6939 Yes you do. When you break a leg on impact you will need emergency services within minutes. If you are unhurt: how good are your survival skills to survive outside of civilization for more than two hours? two days? Do you have water, food, a blanket shelter against rain/snow/wind? Are there any dangerous animals on your landing spot? You really wish to be found by rescue services and for that your landing spot is very important.
Technically commercial airliners aren't sealed either. They're just sealed *enough* that the extra air being pumped in the by pressurization system can maintain a pressure equal to roughly 6-8k' despite all the air that's constantly leaking out.
The parachutes on planes are for the planes, not people. Some training planes have emergency plane parachutes to ease the crash. They are usually bright and can be plainly seen by rescuers looking for the plane. In a case like that, hopefully there would be plains available to land the plane in.
All Cirrus aircraft have parachutes and just within the last few months someone locally had to use theirs when they had an engine failure on climb out and had the choice of either deploying the chute over land or ditching in Lake Washington.
plainly said!
@@dudebehinddude2967planely
This could be an idea for a follow-up video, “Why Planes Do Carry Parachutes”…
Yeah, but those are small, light aircraft. A passenger plane would need a *massive* parachute that would severely limit the amount of people and cargo it could carry, besides being useless most of the time given in take off and landing there wouldn't be enough altitude to deploy them.
Small single engine private planes are more susceptible to both mechanical and human error, therefore a parachute makes (a bit) more sense.
The big issue is that the time it would take for an airliner to have its passengers jump is far longer then a crippled airliner could stay stabilized for that without the airliner also being in good enough shape to go for a controlled crash landing.
This is the most reasonable statement in this entire conversation, video included. Except cost… that’s probably the real reason…
Now imagine after the jump, having to track down and recover hundreds of potentially injured and unconscious passengers spread over hundreds of square miles of who knows what kind of terrain.
Indeed. I thought the video would also talk about search & rescue. Assume everyone survived the depressurization, knew how to put on their parachute, jumped and made to the ground. Even considering a generous rate of one jump per second, that's 5 whole minutes to empty a wide-body jetliner. At 1000 km/h, this will mean that the passengers will be spread out over more than 80 km. That's not 80 km of paved road or even the Appalachian Trail. Statistically, it's 80km of ocean, desert, jungle, or tundra. It'll take much much longer for the rescue operations to find everyone, compared to keeping everyone on-board then trying an emergency landing or ditching and having everyone in the same place.
I'm LITERALLY waiting in an airport to get on a 737 to houston as I'm watching this. What the hell, I feel like I'm being watched LMAO
Have a safe flight!
Did you need a parachute?
You flew on a Boeing? You're *brave*
If a plane is crashing it wouldn't be at 30000ft. Just sayin'
why tf does the top comment have 7 likes
Anyone who thinks parachutes on commercial planes would be a good idea, knows nothing about parachutes or commercial planes.
Or good ideas.
Guess you haven't heard of DB Cooper
its cuz we dont really think about it, when we think of the idea, most people just hear high altitude, and something to slow down the jump heavily to make it easily survivable (and for some people, fun) we immediately think its fine
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@@Johnne009 Seems he didn't know so much about them either, seeing as he probably fell to his death.
Remember, to avoid issues with cabin pressure, outside temperature and high speeds, make sure to jump when the pIane is sIow and Iow, i.e. when most accidents happen anyway.
and if it is low, you can't even realistically use the parachute
@@_Mintyz_well, not THAT low. Just like… not at 35,000 feet ya know. 12 or 13 k would do it
@@Libroerina how do you know what altitude you are and how are you going to going to jump out of a free falling or fast falling plane?
@@_Mintyz_ the pilot knows
@@Libroerina it would only be reasonable to jump out when the plane is either uncontrollable (aka basically free falling) or when the plane is free falling or when the nose is locked far down. I wish you the best of luck to jump out of a plane in these conditions.
There is a scene in Shute’s IN THE WET where a visiting politician demands why the royal 747 does not have a Very pistol, while the pilot tries to explain that if they were in trouble, setting off manual flares would not help, and they can’t set it down just anywhere.
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They opted for the Extremely pistol instead
"This is your captain speaking. Please fasten your seat belts as we are experiencing some mild turbulence.
That one mf that brought a parachute: "Not today." *Opens cabin door
*jumps into jet engine inlet
"On a commercial airliner, every system is going to be double or triple redundant" - say that to the ONE angle of attack sensor that was hooked up the the stability system (that pilots also weren't told actually existed) on the 737 max that caused those crashes
There were multiple AoA sensors. The problem was the software did not respond appropriately when one of them failed or emitted an erroneous signal. (Which then caused the engagement of the MCAS system that no one knew existed).
Redundency is very very important, that is why Boeing made sure to only put only one angle of attack sensor on their MCAS system...
Dark man
Video sponsored by Boeing
I see what you did there 😂😂😂
Boeing did
5:19 General aviation accident statistics are very much not the same as commercial aviation statistics, and this video is explicitly about the latter - the point about phases of flight still stands, but that pie chart is just misleading :/ (The reason more crashes happen during landing and takeoff is also that the ground is closer, and crashes often involve the ground)
He also did not watch Mythbusters and so still thinks a plan violently decompresses and sucks stuff out....
"crashes often involve the ground" [citation needed]
This whole damn video was a waste of time. Terrible
In case somebody wants to mention ejection seat :
for the majority of accidents, it's safer if you evacuate normally - there is no way to safely eject 200-400 people - the seat's rocket motor will probably make a lot of grilled humans around your seat, and any loose item in the cabin affected by the seat will probably become hazardous projectiles that will punch holes through a lot of people - Final Destination stuff, basically
even if they can magically fit those in, but if you're not trained to use it, you're likely gonna die or seriously injured because of it instead - for example, a few limbs might get ripped off if they're not where they're supposed to be
Considering even many pilots aren allowed to fly again after having been ejected, putting an untrained person into an ejection seat will not be pretty. Crushed spine, serious neck injuries (can be fatal), damage to theeth or tounge, whiplash and that's all the stuff a trained person is still at reisk for, not to mention the absolute caranage you described.
Sam must feel so accomplished that he was finally able to talk about planes.
Commercial airlines could save so much weight, thus reducing the cost of tickets for passengers and allowing the executives to buy more horses, by eliminating the double and triple redundant mechanical systems. Why haven't they done this?
Boeing would like to offer you a job
Pretty sure that would violate a hundred bajillion FAA and NTSB regulations, and airline executives are probably not keen on jail time.
Oh, it said "horses"? I thought that line was "Porsches".
So I went back and listened again, and I think you're right - "horses" it is! (And the auto-generated subtitles agree.)
@@mt_xing I'm interested. But I'll definitely be driving to their headquarters for the interview.
@@benjaminlynch9958it's only illegal if you get caught, and if you do get caught simply shift the blame to the ones that died.
2:15 Technically this isn't 100% true. While you absolutely would get sucked out due to the depressurization, there have been people who have skydived from heights at and above commercial airline altitude (and survived). Obviously most of those were doing things like testing pressure suits and such but there have been some without pressure suits/without functional pressure suits. But regardless of that, those were all people who were extremely well trained skydivers usually testing things for the military in case of emergency ejections for pilots/astronauts, not the general public who would absolutely not fair nearly as well. But theoretically speaking you probably won't die from the lack of oxygen and cold before hitting the ground, you would just die from hitting the ground when you failed to skydive properly/get knocked unconscious from the depressurization
Even if it was possible, and all else went "well," that would be one crowded sky. There would be tons of deaths from parachute to parachute collisons. Also, high altutide parachutingnis possible with scuba like gear. The army calls it HALO, i used to reman some of it, its pretty cool stuff, but its more complex then a regular jump.
I don't understand this logic. "100% deaths is better than tons of deaths"
@@sonoftheway3528 most plane incidents are recoverable to a degree. There are fairly few 100% death crashes.
@@sonoftheway3528The only 100% death cases are the ones where the landing is so uncontrolled, the pilot couldn't have brought the plane into a parachuting position in the first place. The video never addressed that to my surprise either, most of these problems _can_ be solved by just designing them with a commerical situation in mind. You can turn the engines off, improve door positions, make easy parachutes, hand out radios, fly low and then depressurize slowly, etc.
But all of this would only work in situations where the current system of trying to control the crash is always a better solution.
@@slyseal2091 I'm a bit confused about your last sentence.
So you're saying it is feasible but, wouldn't be better than the current system?
@@sonoftheway3528 A situation where the plane works well enough to let passengers jump out, is a situation where the plane works well enough to let everyone survive a rough landing. Imagine there are 100 ways a plane can crash. Jumping has 50 survivable scenarios. Landing has 75 survivable scenarios. Landing works in every scenario in which jumping works.
i am LIVING for these slightly longer HAI videos
That's why I carry my own parachute whenever I am on a flight.
Airlines should just tell passengers that their emergency life vests can also be used as parachutes. They’re about equally likely to save you in either case.
Wait, Half as Interesting is also Wendover? I was totally oblivious to that
I am so confused. They are not? I thought they were.
yes they are lol, and you can see some of the team in action on their third channel jetlag
“Sam … Wendover Productions, Half as Interesting, Extremities, and the travel competition show Jet Lag: The Game.” (Wikipedia) - also he & friends have two pretty good episodes on Lateral Podcast.
Also the voice and the in-joke references between the channels are a hint :)
@@Wes12940 I wasn't claiming that they weren't the same, just that I wasn't aware.
You can’t get most of the pax to get a life jacket on. I don’t want to think of a plane load ‘the general public’ trying to put a parachute on. 😂
PLF: ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF
I'm a cabin crew and I get asked "where's my parachute stowed" all the time. When I tell them there's no parachutes they get horrified and no amount of explanation helps...
Saw once an article about somebody suggesting a system where people would be seatbelted to their seats at all times during the flight, though not just normal hip-belts, but instead four-point belts like fighter pilots, and in case something would happen, the seats would be released through the back of the plane on rails, with a small inflateable hood being deployed over the head of the passenger for air, and the parachute would deploy from the backrest of their seat. Though even if that system worked, as you described here, all these extra-systems would probably add up weight preeeeetty fast, reducing both the number of possible passengers and luggage and range for such planes.
I literally talked about this yesterday. Haven't watched yet, but I'm assuming you re-iterate the sad truth that parachutes would be useless to 99% of people since they don't know how to use it, and the exit from the plane would likely be more dangerous than surviving the landing.
That's pretty much the 1 sentence summary of the video!
just bring a flying type pokemon instead
But Sam, what if I waited to jump out of the plane until after it had fallen to a survivable altitude, spending that extra time making sure I had my parachute on right? Would it be any less of a terrible idea then?
ANA: if we make passengers go to the bathroom before taking off we'll save 8¢ worth of fuel for each one.
Ryanair: no, no, no, if they have to go to the bathroom while they're in the air we can charge them much more than that!
Absolutely fantastic! I really appreciate you ability and willingness to branch out, but we know THIS is your wheelhouse. Loved it! One of your best videos in years. Can't wait for another.
OK, you're ruled out parachutes, but what about ejector seats for every passenger?
I like that your solution is just "what if we just eliminated the parachute and lived (or perhaps not) with the consequences"
Commenting before the video but there are planes that have plane-sized parachutes built into the body of the plane, mostly on single prop private craft but the technology is there and they've already saved multiple lives from engine failures
Because surprise surprise.
It was lighter and has less redudancy anyway like.... two engine?
@@bocahdongo7769 what about single prop stunt planes?? Or someone who wants even more redundancy in their personal aircraft?
@@lucienskinner-savallisch5399You get your emotion first, my point is just, It's irrelevant in bigger plane anyway.
You can use the same resource to developer insanely ultrasafe foolproof superlight parachute to just.... Rework the entire fucking Boeing instead. We already have plane with ZERO fatality anyway (like A380, from not Boeing)
That "dangerous vacuum" had me actually cracking up 😂
The part about being sucked out of the plane isnt really true, thats just movie science. In reality it would mostly only be strong enough to suck the air and some light object, not people
I mean it depends on your proximity to the door, people have been sucked out of planes before
If you're standing right next to the door, explosive decompression will definitely blow you out. Movie science is the idea that it keeps sucking after the initial blast.
Most people making these comments have no idea how chaotic it is in a crashing airliner. They should watch the air crash videos available on RUclips.
5:39 Doubly and triply redundant means there are two and three things _in total_ respectively. So, in the case of a failure, there are _one_ and _two_ backups, not two and three backups.
No? If what you say is true. A "redundant system" doesn't exist. Only a "double redundant system" would be the minimum. But that's not true.
A redundant system already has a backup. So a "double" redundant system has 2 backups, 3 systems in total. And a "triple redundant" system would have 3 backups, 4 systems in total.
Again a "redundant system" already has a backup. So a "double redundant system" has 2.
No?
fun fact, drop zones can do 30k ft jumps but they have to use oxygen to complete those jumps
2:45 No? Even in an explosive decompression this wouldn't happen, worst case scenario the person sitting next to the hole could get sucked out if they weren't buckled
thanks for all the tips sam, gonna jump out of my next flight in your honor!
DB Cooper has entered the chat
The plane he hopped out of had a rear door.
Also, he seems to have been a vet, as he chose the older, military-issue parachutes.
@@theregalproletariatas long you have a door behind the engines you should be fine
@@theregalproletariat the parachutes came from a skydiving school that used to be about a mile from my house (the airport is now Costco). He didn't have a choice in the chutes he got--they literally grabbed them off the shelf and took them to SEATAC.
@@Johnne009 and the people in front?
@@Johnne009It also helps that the 727 tailplane is higher compared to most other planes
3:22 ... Um no, the correct answer is not "rich guy horses." It's customer airfares will be pressured to go up.
Fun fact:
Except for accidents that happen before liftoff, all plane crashes happen during landing
Okay, but I'm built different. I'd survive.
This is a joke right?
@@maxwell6881No. Have you seen my abs? I am a machine of a human
I once was on a plane that had mechanical failure because it hit a flock of birds which got stuck in the engines... and 3 out of 4 engines shutdown, and pilots still managed to turn around and land back in the airport of departure... So yeah parachute wouldn't help there because we were too low still anyway...
A four-engined airliner is not certified for flight on a single engine, it's certified for flight on three and sometimes as few as two engines. The only instance I can find of a triple engine failure happening on a four-engined aircraft was an A400M... which crashed, because it is, of course, not actually controllable in that circumstance. Don't exaggerate the story please.
@@DaWolf805did you know birds are not at 35000ft so they prob hit some while climbing
@@DaWolf805It has nothing to do with "certification" it was force major... And I think they actually managed to restart some of the engines they didn't completely shut off, so I suppose that is a bit of exaggeration... It wasn't crash landing so yeah not much coverage they managed to turn around and land safely
One thing you forgot to mention. Airliner doors are designed so that you can't open them if flight. Ever notice that they open outward and you can't push a 300 pound door against a 400 mph slipstream. Another factor is that when it is figured out that the airplane is going to crash it is already too low to the ground. Even if you could get to a door you would probably hit the ground before your parachute opened.
Boeing: what redundancy? triple layer of safety feature?! You get half a safety feature, take it or leave it!
Who is watching this due to insomnia
Just got home from work, haven’t slept in 24 hrs ….and I don’t yet feel the lull of sleep …yeeeeeee anyway how’s you?
@@notturner8528 I'm good.Hope you too
Couldn’t you wait until the plane falls to an altitude you could survive jumping from before jumping out? If it’s crashing it should pass through a lower atmosphere before it hits the ground.
sure, but if you're in an uncontrolled freefall, how are you going to make it to the doors? people can't get off the damn things in a timely when they're sitting on the ground, much less when the noses is pointed towards hell, and everyone is panicking, and you'd probably just be thrown around the cabin if you were moving around. If it's not in freefall, and they can level off long enough to shed passengers, they probably have enough control left to land in the first place.
Also how would you know when that is? That’s assuming you even managed to get your parachute on, walked to the door in that turbulence and somehow opened the door all in time. But then again, how would you know the timing for all that?
I would strongly assume that if the pilots have enough control left to get the plane into a position where people could parachute from it, they have enough control to get the plane down onto some runway.
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yes you could but that would only be possible when its a controlled descend, if for any reason the controls fail like in the Swissair 111 accident not even the best skydiver wouldnt make it
Another problem he didn’t mention is if you parachuted over water. Even if you survive the parachute jump, you won’t survive in the sea. When I was in the military, I heard our pilots would only survive in the sea, in winter temperatures, for 7 minutes without wearing an immersion suit before they succumb to hypothermia. Imagine the Titanic with no life rafts.
Also, from my experience in the military, I call bullsh*t that aircraft can’t carry weight. We had over 50kg luggage allowance each and the trooper aircraft was at max capacity (291 pax? The aircraft had a 45,000 kg dry payload). So Airlines saying they can’t carry weight is just them being greedy and trying to maximise their profits. Even Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 flew with over 10 tonnes of cargo (a shipment of lithium ion batteries and mangosteen fruit) in addition to its passengers and their luggage.
You don't need to jump out of a commercial plane if you are at 35k feet, because then the plane is working just fine
Judging by his facial expression, that guy at 4:12 definitely caused whatever it is that's happening to that plane.
At 35 000 feet, you need positive pressure breathing for your lungs to even work. The drop-downs basically are useless until we get you to 25000’. We plan do rapidly descend to 15000’ on decompression. Its quite a ride.
Well, there was that guy who went to jail because he decided to bail out of a (perfectly working) aircraft with a parachute as a youtuber-influencer-viral-video stunt that went badly for him for lying to the feds. But on the plus side, some aircraft do have whole-aircraft parachutes - the Cirrus SR-22 being the most common example. If you get in trouble in any phase, you deploy it by pulling a handle and then you come down gently in a more survivable accident. It's saved a number of lives, but it's for the whole aircraft.
Bro ignored the legendary c-17 and c-130 for the legs and civvies 😂
0:15 Fun fact: planes technically have structural paper parts. It's made of aramid fibres instead of wooden ones but still.
(It's called Nomex honeycomb if you want to google it)
aramid is what they make bulletproof vests out of. i don't think it's quite comparable to paper
@@irregularguy6465 to my knowledge it's technically classified as a paper by the manufacturer, which is enough for me to make this joke
was not aware of the hudson river crash statistics with the life vests, thats actually really interesting and kinda shocking
Just watched this sitting at an airport gate about to go to Houston, where i dont particularly want to go. Nice call.
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Maybe I missed it, but it seemed like you missed a critical point in all of this analysis: how long are you in these conditions? I mean sure, its very very cold up there, but if I bring a jacket, and start the jump warm, how cold will I be before the temperature gets to a reasonable level while descending at terminal velocity? Same for oxygen. People can hold their breath with zero oxygen whatsoever for a minute at least. After a minute of free fall decent, what will their altitude be? If we count in the fact that they can breath some oxygen in the whole time, I don't see how air should be a problem. It takes about 2 minutes from leaving a plane at 30k to get down to an elevation of 10k where we know everything is fine.
you have around 5-6 seconds of usable conscience at around 35k feet, saying you don't hit the horizontal stabiliser or the engine or the body etc even if you held your breath it still will take too long before you get down safe enough (you need to decent around 20k feet in a minute) terminal velocity is around 10k feet per minute so you'd need to hold your breath for 2 minutes to be safe, while parachuting. pretty much impossible also everyone can't jump at the same time so you could be waiting a couple minutes to jump and would have to hold your breath for 4 minutes, good luck...
Also if you take the globe what would be your chance of landing somewhere to be rescued or somewhere where you could just go to the nearest village/city is likely under 5% so yeah good luck!
I think the critical point was that if you jump out of a commercial plane you're likely to end up as confetti that's been passed through a jet engine or as a splatter on the vertical stabilizer before any other causes of death become a concern.
That aside, people have certainly survived jumps from very high altitudes without supplemental oxygen so it's technically possible. You probably aren't going to die from lack of oxygen in 2 minutes. However, at 35k ft you've got maybe 30-60 seconds of useful consciousness to work with before you pass out. Nobody's getting geared up and out the door in that amount of time, especially in the chaotic conditions you'd find in the cabin following rapid decompression. But you're right, if you were in a plane that was safe to jump from, had not just been explosively decompressed, and you were hooked up to oxygen until the moment of your jump....you could get down to a breathable altitude alive. It's been done.
@@pedal_all_day Why on earth would you pass out in 30 seconds? From what?
@@_Mintyz_ Why on earth would you pass out in 5-6 seconds?
@@jweezy101491 lack of oxygen, point is if you don't hold your breath or stop it before getting to a safe height your gonna pass out then fall slam into the ground and hypoxia can also cause death so before you hit it you are likely gone from the planet, also I'm ignoring the fact your lungs don't work at 35k feet so good luck even holding your breath.
FYI you have bigger chance died during parachuting than staying on the plane, on emergency situation.
I think that might just be the point of the video.
But if you're trying to say that skydiving itself is more dangerous than being in a plane crash, I doubt that. Skydiving is a pretty safe thing to do.
@@herrantonits safe, cuz you have been trained to do it beforehand, thats why.
@@herranton Nah, skydiving statistically more dangerous
Simply because there's less people skydiving at all compare to people that have incident on plane
@@bocahdongo7769 You're making the argument that skydiving is more dangerous than being in a plane crash? Lol, ok...
Id guess there are _significantly_ more skydivers than people _involved in_ plane crashes. (Which is what I said). Just airplane passengers, then no, obviously skydiving is more dangerous than _riding_ in a plane. But it safer than crashing in a plane.
@@herranton yes. And you can look up the data.
Ohh.... I see. You compare it with same plane that already fucked up anyway. Not counting countless upon countless that just land safely (all irregularities count as incident on air travel, if you don't know neither of them anyway)
The bit with the photoshopped cord was brilliant, well done Ben, or Amy, or whoever wrote that!
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Don't forget, if you do bring your parachute, know how to use it, you have an oxygen mask and heat suit (or just anything to stop you from dying from the cold and hypoxia) you still can't **physically open the door**, due to the crazy speed and air pressure you have better chances trying to open a vault door with the locks still on, so yeah good luck even being able to jump out. And even if you do jump out you will likely hit the horizontal stabiliser, even if you do/miss all of that magically you probably will just end out in the ocean and drown or be stuck in an incredibly rural area with no service or hell even the side of a mountain or in the middle of the desert where help would struggle to even come
We jumped from jets in the Army. It had a special screen that broke up the air to stop you from getting slammed back into the fuselage. Still, I cannot imagine making this work for 100 plus civilians.
Former TSA: Parachutes are allowed both because recreation, but also because specialist firefighters who use parachutes to access remote areas are sometimes deployed to wildfires
My post was in Montana, and we saw a lot of parachutes come through.
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6:30 correction - 100% of plane crashes happen at landing
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Dissapointed this wasnt a video about how comically ridiculous a single giant parachut carrying an entire 737 would be
It's worth mentioning that US special operations have at least experimented with jumping from commercial airliners. Whether or not that capability still exists is unknown and it required the use of special, high altitude equipment.
What about a parachute for the entire plane, like you can get for smaller planes? Wouldn't work in all situations, but would work in enough.
Good luck not landing on top of powerline,
or volcano,
or middle of storm sea,
or middle of amazon jungle with 1001 deadly thing,
or your mom
The 'chute would have to be MASSIVE, would weight a ton, and would be useless close to the ground, where most emergencies occur.
Also if it accidentally gets deployed, all passengers are dead
Same issues. Weight, Cost, Altitude.
Also. a parachute would be useless in human errors. Which is the vast majority
no it wouldn't work at all
Not me immediately thinking of DB cooper lol
Also have you even learn how to use a parachute? That thing was a whole process that takes hundred of hour to master until you don't blue falcon.
Yes, the whole problem with the drop is not you don't know how the parachute work. It's you pee your pant being cowardly, don't jump and hold the line, or you are mentally frozen to pull the cord while freefalling 10mph in the mid air.
Hundreds of jumps, maybe, not hours. 25 jumps to get your license tho, but no one wants to be that guy.
1. Attach the parachutes to every pair of seats, with an automatic deploy mechanism 2. Once the plane reaches a certain safe altitude, depressurize the cabin to allow the passengers to adapt to the external environment. 3. Implement a mechanism of rails that glides the seats out of the aircraft, to the rear, away from the engines. 4. Make the seats gps-trackable.
Anyone wondering why an airplane can never use a huge parachute?
Would you even be able to open the door on a comercial plane? The preassure difference would surely make it near impossible
Plane doors open inwards for this exact reason. The pressure of the plane adds a lot of force to the door, so even if it became unlatched the door would just be pushed against the frame of the plane
Historically there have been bolt style doors on at least cargo doors in some planes, I.e. pressure difference does nothing to hold the door in place. But yeah, plug style feels a lot better, pressure keeping it in place. Also with the recent Max accidents, we have seen some plug type doors only being “kind of” plug, able to move out of the pressure plug if not bolted correctly… so in reality we have pressure plug, almost pressure plug, and bolt style. So at least three different levels of inherent security from pressure, ranging from full to none.
Sure, they even open by themselves, if the bolts are not installed properly ;)
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So I love to play devils advocate…
1) Speed and altitude are things that are at least somewhat under control of the pilots, even in the case of the most common problems. Stall velocity of jets at altitudes low enough to jump are very tolerable. Rear exits are always behind the engines, though depending on the design of the plane the tail may still be a problem for a parachuter exiting.
2) Parachutes are heavy and there is no way of avoiding the argument of extra weight being extra cost, but some passengers might be willing to foot the bill for a little extra cost in exchange for a little extra safety in the event of certain emergencies.
3) Many parachute designs require little to no training, these have primarily been used in WW2 by militaries, but they offer most of the same benefits as a more modern steerable parachute with much less complexity, more reliability, and less size / weight. Automatic deployment mechanisms which already exist on some backup skydiver parachutes take even more of the human element out of the equation. The device simply has to be quick and obvious how to strap on.
4) Modern aircraft are amazingly safe and reliable, and there are incredibly few times where a parachute would significantly increase your odds of survival. No argument there, except that the recent trend has been towards less reliability and more fatal accidents, mostly fueled seemingly by corporate greed.
But,
The military also ALWAYS plan for dumping their troop with parachute on really good landing site. Something that absolutely WILL NOT get on most emergency situation.