The first wagon you are showing is a market wagon, which is basically a spring wagon with a cab, and you are right that its a pickup truck. The other is your basic Amish buggy, which is a minivan. All three horses look to be Standardbreds off the track.
I'd love to see more of all those tree swallows that were gorging themselves on all those insects! That was wild. Even the amish like to use more horsepower than needed! Great video.
Mules are more resistant to heat stroke than horses, and used to be very common in more Southern areas. Lancaster County is southern PA, and can get pretty darned hot. So they'll use mules just for their ability to get the hay in when the weather is 90 degrees. These paragraphs are going to be out of order again. I wish they'd allow longer comments.
I think hes smarter then us some times, I mean the Amish that is. We run around all the time with our heads cut off. If the power gose out it will not hurt them at all.
yeah when you are zoomed out that far it's a lot harder to hold it steady. the wind really wasn't all that bad kinda wierd though the old fella having all that "horse" power and still using a gas powered blade. yeah my parents said there are both Amish and Menenites there all across PA. not sure how to tell one from the other but i do know they all produce pretty good stuff
looks like the barn swallows are swarming the bugs! They always follow me when I am on the big mower, they are the fighter planes of the bird world, so cool to see them dive for bugs coming outta the grass!
by hooking them 6 across that way, it takes the strain off the rear two horses and it distributes the weight among them all, like if one of the wheels hit a rock, it would throw the machine a little slamming the rear horses.
Thats not a lawn mower. It is a discbine. It cuts hay and runs it through a conditioner. Usually steel flails or rubber rollers. It "crimps" the stems of the forage plants to allow a quicker and more even dry down of the hay. It is usually used in legume hay such as clover or alfalfa. Pretty modern equipment too! I am a small scale beef farmer and I still use a belt driven sickle bar mower! These guys are more modern than I am in the hay cutting department! lol
@805ROADKING I didn't know they had an auction there. I used to spend a good bit of time in Leola. There used to be a harness maker and a carriage builder there. I imagine they are both long gone now. They were old men back in the early eighties.
I have heard that Farming is the only activity for which the Amish will use an engine. I guess it is not generally thought of as frivolity when it is actually necessary.
@userunavailable3095 "You are going to hate me" Quite the contrary Buddy!! I love it when somebody can educate me on something i come across, half the time I don't know what I'm lookin' at. I really appreciate it, especially when you take the time and go into it in depth. It's a shame that you are limited to 500 characters!! That was the Wolgemuth Auction, Leola PA that you hear in the background!!☺
He is cutting the hay. Thats a New holland Haybine he's running. The birds are looking for bugs, and mice that they normally would not be able to get to because of the tall grass.
@vidman008 They don't want to be dependent on people outside the church who might compromise their beliefs. They are off grid for that reason. If you are dependent on a tractor to pull your implements, then you have to buy gas. But if you are dependent on mules, you can easily leave that "Amish Tractor" parked, and use your older implements. The mules still work without gas. Unlike us, if they don't like buying gas because of the war in Iraq, they don't have to buy it.
The reason most of them don't care much about being misidentified is that there is a lot of back and forth between the groups. Not all of their kids grow up to join the church. Some go out in the world, and some just join another group. Some of those Mennonites might have been raised in an Amish family, and vis versa. I have friends in an old order horse and buggy group who were raised with tractors, and I have friends who have been both Amish and Mennonite.
@scotty2307 You can't make those kinds of generalizations. Its as unique as the bishop and council a particular group is led by. I ran across a group this week where the men are allowed to wear knit polo shirts. That's the first time I've ever seen that. They'll use motors for other things. I've seen them using old hit and miss engines to churn ice cream or to do laundry. They'll used a diesel generator to power a shop, or to power an air compressor to power a shop.
It's a discbine, not a swather. Pto powered, makes me wonder why it's OK to use a motor for the discbine but not for locomotion of the whole apparatus. It'd be a lot less modern to use a tractor and a sickle mower. Discbines are VERY recent.
So my question is, where were you? I can hear an auctioneer behind you. Is it Martin's Auction in Intercourse? It actually looks more like Quarryville, but I don't know of an auction down there. He is cutting hay, by the way. It looks like it might be alfalfa, and a haybine that he's cutting with, which crushes the stems and squeezes the sap out of the plant so that it will cure faster.
@edzgarage I was talking to an Amish guy at an Auction that Day, he said most of them really didn't care about it to much, but it does bother the real Diehards and you don't really see them much!!☺
Yeah, kind of contradictory. I grew up near an Amish community in Missouri. It's an odd stipulation that they can't use a tractor. It's something like the motor has to be "stationary" or not self propelled, maybe that's it. I saw entire sawmills run with belts and pulleys off of one big centralized diesel motor. I've seen a square baler, much like this mower, with just a huge engine strapped to the PTO shaft and hauled around the field by horses. I've even seen a smaller engine with a big circular saw blade mounted on bicycle rims and used to roll up to and saw through logs laying on the ground. That's the closest they could get to a chainsaw. Although as of a year or so ago the community agreed that actual chainsaws were OK and now they all own one!
These communities aren't always against newer technologies , they're just very selective/cautious about what they adopt. Some sects have cars, landline phones and bicycles. s
@userunavailable3095 Sorry!! I promised you that it wouldn't happen again! ya think i would have remembered, I only have about 5 women subscribers that ever comment and I try to give them the respect that they deserve!!☺
@userunavailable3095 The Amish tend to wear black, with solid colors for men's shirts and women's dresses. The Mennonites tend to dress like old farmers from the thirties: denim chore jackets and jeans and they'll wear print cotton for dresses and shirts. Men of both groups wear broad fall pants instead of a zipper fly. Amish don't wear buttons, because of Paul's injunction against buttons (which were jewelry in the Roman Empire) but instead use hooks and eyes or pins to close their clothing.
Eiks tuo oo vähä ristiriitasta touhua: muulit vetää konetta, mut MOOTTORI kuitekii käyttää sitä. Siinähä pitäis olla maapyörä, mistä tuo niittokone ottais käyttövoiman.
@userunavailable3095 Oh, but I can, and did make that kind of generalization, and I feel so naughty. It's positively liberating! Your comment is interesting though. Despite the mild chastisement.
@userunavailable3095 Once you understand that principle, you can understand why they will use horses for motive power, but allow an "Amish tractor" to provide PTO power for a haybine. You can always hook a simpler implement to those horses to get the crop in, and like as not he has an old mower and rake around, but if you are dependent on a gas tractor to pull your mower, you are out of luck if buying gas will make you compromise your principles, such as supporting the middle east wars.
They can have modern Diesel power and a modern mower conditioner and lift it with modern hydraulics, but they have to pull it all with horses (or mules in this case)? Ridiculous.
They can't find new equipment made for horse farming anymore. Most of the old style equipment is worn out so they're forced to adapt new equipment to their way.
You are going to hate me. You've once again tapped into something I actually know something about. Amish rules and regulations are more about keeping the family home at night, and working together by day, and about being independent and off grid. If you are dependent, you can be pushed into a moral dilemma and forced to compromise principles. But if you are independent and off grid, no one can push you into doing something evil because your children are starving.
You can never have enough mulepower. Seriously though, if you're going to use an engine to mow anyway, just go ahead and use a tractor.
The first wagon you are showing is a market wagon, which is basically a spring wagon with a cab, and you are right that its a pickup truck. The other is your basic Amish buggy, which is a minivan. All three horses look to be Standardbreds off the track.
I'd love to see more of all those tree swallows that were gorging themselves on all those insects! That was wild. Even the amish like to use more horsepower than needed! Great video.
@CornfieldCraziness Thanks Roy!! i wish i could have gotten a better shot of the machine but i was a little too far away!!☺
@pimpinpenz yeah Buddy!! I was unable to get a good shot of that mower, i was about a half mile away eh!!☺
Mules are more resistant to heat stroke than horses, and used to be very common in more Southern areas. Lancaster County is southern PA, and can get pretty darned hot. So they'll use mules just for their ability to get the hay in when the weather is 90 degrees. These paragraphs are going to be out of order again. I wish they'd allow longer comments.
Now there's something you don't see very often. I used to see it all the time when I went to PA. though.
I think hes smarter then us some times, I mean the Amish that is. We run around all the time with our heads cut off. If the power gose out it will not hurt them at all.
@V8power923 It's pretty cool out that way, I only get out there about 3-4 times a year!!☺
@500passwords He told me he was gonna use 12 Mules, but he decided to mow it Half-Assed!!☺
@VE9REJ Thanks for checkin' it out Rej!!☺
@coffeefish Yeah they were pretty well trained, they didn't seem to stubborn!!☺
yeah when you are zoomed out that far it's a lot harder to hold it steady. the wind really wasn't all that bad kinda wierd though the old fella having all that "horse" power and still using a gas powered blade. yeah my parents said there are both Amish and Menenites there all across PA. not sure how to tell one from the other but i do know they all produce pretty good stuff
@mrwiggles2 Yeah those Swallows were cool!! there was thousands of them!!☺
@mirodeogrl One of the guys was saying the Mules can take the heat alot better!!☺
looks like the barn swallows are swarming the bugs! They always follow me when I am on the big mower, they are the fighter planes of the bird world, so cool to see them dive for bugs coming outta the grass!
not as bad as the seagulls when we'er cutting. they just cover the field trying to get at the worms now that the grass is cut
This is high tech farming. Fertilize as you mow. Awsome
by hooking them 6 across that way, it takes the strain off the rear two horses and it distributes the weight among them all, like if one of the wheels hit a rock, it would throw the machine a little slamming the rear horses.
@12jamesthomas You're right James, thanks for the correct info Buddy!!☺
Thats not a lawn mower. It is a discbine. It cuts hay and runs it through a conditioner. Usually steel flails or rubber rollers. It "crimps" the stems of the forage plants to allow a quicker and more even dry down of the hay. It is usually used in legume hay such as clover or alfalfa. Pretty modern equipment too! I am a small scale beef farmer and I still use a belt driven sickle bar mower! These guys are more modern than I am in the hay cutting department! lol
We saw some Amish this past weekend. It's not a life for everyone. I hear they hate to be in pictures and on video. I love the parking lot! lol
that mowers got more horse power than those mules got!
@mbyr31 Thanks Buddy!! Yeah definitely a different and interesting lifestyle!!☺
@grosteph58 Yeah it's a little different now a days, there are many different Sects. many of them have modern conveniences!!☺
LOL! Did they make tow behind mowers for the steam tractors?
@805ROADKING I didn't know they had an auction there. I used to spend a good bit of time in Leola. There used to be a harness maker and a carriage builder there. I imagine they are both long gone now. They were old men back in the early eighties.
@hheywire Thanks Hey!!☺
@ShawnCFarm Yeah there's alot to be said about that lifestyle!!☺
I have heard that Farming is the only activity for which the Amish will use an engine. I guess it is not generally thought of as frivolity when it is actually necessary.
@johnscottheald Yeah Buddy!! they're quite Aerobatic!!☺
@userunavailable3095 "You are going to hate me" Quite the contrary Buddy!! I love it when somebody can educate me on something i come across, half the time I don't know what I'm lookin' at. I really appreciate it, especially when you take the time and go into it in depth. It's a shame that you are limited to 500 characters!! That was the Wolgemuth Auction, Leola PA that you hear in the background!!☺
@scotty2307 The rules are always changing, I see them with smart phones and Ipods too!!☺
He is cutting the hay. Thats a New holland Haybine he's running. The birds are looking for bugs, and mice that they normally would not be able to get to because of the tall grass.
@AngryFlagman sounds like the PA mosquito must be related to the NJ Pterodactyl mosquito eh!!☺
@BrittanyNicole1990 I've seen horses and plows, but never a team of Mules and that setup!!☺
@vidman008 They don't want to be dependent on people outside the church who might compromise their beliefs. They are off grid for that reason. If you are dependent on a tractor to pull your implements, then you have to buy gas. But if you are dependent on mules, you can easily leave that "Amish Tractor" parked, and use your older implements. The mules still work without gas. Unlike us, if they don't like buying gas because of the war in Iraq, they don't have to buy it.
@daddytech Yeah Buddy!! I can't tell the difference either, i call them all Amish. It's easier to say!!☺
It looks like he is cutting hay with a hay-bind. City clickers can't tell a hay field and a lawn.
City Slickers....
The reason most of them don't care much about being misidentified is that there is a lot of back and forth between the groups. Not all of their kids grow up to join the church. Some go out in the world, and some just join another group. Some of those Mennonites might have been raised in an Amish family, and vis versa. I have friends in an old order horse and buggy group who were raised with tractors, and I have friends who have been both Amish and Mennonite.
Hey there where is this???
Looks great!Nice video!
@MrBlueroads i've never seen it around here before either!!☺
show em a dollar and watch those faces light up like a christmas tree bulb !
many bids healthy eco system, in tune with the straight and narrow.
@vidman008 there are dozens of Sects that allow different things!!☺
Good practice for the mules.
@greggfla Don't feel bad Buddy, we don't get to see many Gators up here!!☺
@scotty2307 You can't make those kinds of generalizations. Its as unique as the bishop and council a particular group is led by. I ran across a group this week where the men are allowed to wear knit polo shirts. That's the first time I've ever seen that. They'll use motors for other things. I've seen them using old hit and miss engines to churn ice cream or to do laundry. They'll used a diesel generator to power a shop, or to power an air compressor to power a shop.
That Haybine probably weighs 2000 pounds or more. Is six ENOUGH to pull that for the time required to mow that entire field?
It's a discbine, not a swather. Pto powered, makes me wonder why it's OK to use a motor for the discbine but not for locomotion of the whole apparatus. It'd be a lot less modern to use a tractor and a sickle mower. Discbines are VERY recent.
@scotty2307 Well you can make them, but they are incorrect. No chastisement was implied.
@RamblinAround Yeah, go figure eh!!☺
@dirtbike5100 Nah!! the only Steam that guy knows about is when them Mules are fartin' on him eh!!☺
Yeah Buddy!!☺
The only downside I see is that mower probably doesn't have a cup holder.
So my question is, where were you? I can hear an auctioneer behind you. Is it Martin's Auction in Intercourse? It actually looks more like Quarryville, but I don't know of an auction down there. He is cutting hay, by the way. It looks like it might be alfalfa, and a haybine that he's cutting with, which crushes the stems and squeezes the sap out of the plant so that it will cure faster.
@edzgarage I was talking to an Amish guy at an Auction that Day, he said most of them really didn't care about it to much, but it does bother the real Diehards and you don't really see them much!!☺
Lancaster, Pennsylvania!!☺
@NomaDairy That's really Old School there eh Buddy!!☺
why can they rig a motor up to run the conditioner, but can pull it with a tractor?
birds flying what kind of breed? I´m from Sverige and i never see that much of a birdlife.. Swallows?
yes,swallows eating bugs that are stired up from the machine!
MrRobane Swallows or more likely Martins.
@805ROADKING - We have the Adirondack 747 mosquitos up here.
So he can't use a tractor but he can use a brand new disc mower being powered by a Diesel engine WOW:(
Yeah, kind of contradictory. I grew up near an Amish community in Missouri. It's an odd stipulation that they can't use a tractor. It's something like the motor has to be "stationary" or not self propelled, maybe that's it. I saw entire sawmills run with belts and pulleys off of one big centralized diesel motor. I've seen a square baler, much like this mower, with just a huge engine strapped to the PTO shaft and hauled around the field by horses. I've even seen a smaller engine with a big circular saw blade mounted on bicycle rims and used to roll up to and saw through logs laying on the ground. That's the closest they could get to a chainsaw. Although as of a year or so ago the community agreed that actual chainsaws were OK and now they all own one!
It depends of your community.
These communities aren't always against newer technologies , they're just very selective/cautious about what they adopt. Some sects have cars, landline phones and bicycles. s
@larrythelookout They are a quite interesting and fascinating group of people!!☺
Just a heads up.. He is mowing "Hay", not his lawn.. The alfalfa is the main giveaway.
@ferevatogether Hay is alot cheaper than fuel, especially if you grow your own eh!!☺
@cisjohn2616 Lol!! If anybody could do that, they could. They're tough as nails!!☺
@userunavailable3095 Sorry!! I promised you that it wouldn't happen again! ya think i would have remembered, I only have about 5 women subscribers that ever comment and I try to give them the respect that they deserve!!☺
@805ROADKING omg thats got to the funniest joke ive hear in a long while, hahahaha lol
@everythingbybobby Don't shoot'um Buddy!!☺
thats kinda odd that he'd be using a gas powered mower... and then actual horse power. haha.
Good thing they don't lobster fish.....Row to your traps and haul them by hand !
@MagicCadillac Pretty cool eh Buddy!!☺
@paradoxdesigns Yeah go figure eh!!☺
@userunavailable3095 The Amish tend to wear black, with solid colors for men's shirts and women's dresses. The Mennonites tend to dress like old farmers from the thirties: denim chore jackets and jeans and they'll wear print cotton for dresses and shirts. Men of both groups wear broad fall pants instead of a zipper fly. Amish don't wear buttons, because of Paul's injunction against buttons (which were jewelry in the Roman Empire) but instead use hooks and eyes or pins to close their clothing.
@805ROADKING That's okay, I'm just giving you a hard time.
he might as well have a tractor
Eiks tuo oo vähä ristiriitasta touhua: muulit vetää konetta, mut MOOTTORI kuitekii käyttää sitä. Siinähä pitäis olla maapyörä, mistä tuo niittokone ottais käyttövoiman.
Look at all those friggin birds or are they Pennsylvania mosquitos?
lol see that a lot here where i live xD farming places around here xD
oh WOW thats something!!
@userunavailable3095 Oh, but I can, and did make that kind of generalization, and I feel so naughty. It's positively liberating! Your comment is interesting though. Despite the mild chastisement.
@userunavailable3095 Once you understand that principle, you can understand why they will use horses for motive power, but allow an "Amish tractor" to provide PTO power for a haybine. You can always hook a simpler implement to those horses to get the crop in, and like as not he has an old mower and rake around, but if you are dependent on a gas tractor to pull your mower, you are out of luck if buying gas will make you compromise your principles, such as supporting the middle east wars.
marvelous !
I wonder why he was using mules instead of a draft horse breed?
that's neat
@805ROADKING Ack! You are calling me a guy again?
@kookiemoose Probably better off without it, with all that piss and shit flyin' around back there eh!!☺
gas powered cutter ????
he must be half amish . lol
That's the biggest lawn mower I've seen? You sure that's a lawn mower??? It don't look like one to me.
@805ROADKING not quite as hard tripping over your I-teeth trying to say Menanite huh? lol
i think he is cuting it for hay not his lawn
Wish they took the overchecks off the buggy horses while they are standing and tied so they could stretch their necks
sorry these are not horses? lol
@805ROADKING hahaha!
Purple Martin's the bird's
Seriously you think that's a lawn mower
They can have modern Diesel power and a modern mower conditioner and lift it with modern hydraulics, but they have to pull it all with horses (or mules in this case)? Ridiculous.
They can't find new equipment made for horse farming anymore. Most of the old style equipment is worn out so they're forced to adapt new equipment to their way.
jodebest You think so ? They can make that themselves, no ?
lepaul26 they could make it themselves.. but at what point does it become less cost effective to do that. take second and just think about it.
they have to show they haven't FULLY gone the modern way
You are going to hate me. You've once again tapped into something I actually know something about. Amish rules and regulations are more about keeping the family home at night, and working together by day, and about being independent and off grid. If you are dependent, you can be pushed into a moral dilemma and forced to compromise principles. But if you are independent and off grid, no one can push you into doing something evil because your children are starving.
Mule power
je voie pas l interet car le moteur est sur la faucheuse donc pas besoin de cheval c est pas écologique !