How I Cured the YIPS after 30 years
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- This video explaims how Julian Mellor cured the YIPS after 30 years of suffering.
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Tried this after severe putting yips lately that has actually taken the fun out of golf. A nightmare of sorts. The saw grip worked instantly on the first try. Taking the right hand out of the putting stroke immidiately made me sink putts like it was childs play. With better feel for distance! Now it’s exciting and fun to putt. As it should be. Can’t wait to see the scores I get when my irons are hot. A million thanks for this.
Hi Anders, what a fantastic message to read. So pleased that you’re enjoying your putting once more. If only more golfers got to experience the same thing. The more we share this message the more we all experience the same thing. 👍
For about seven months, I struggled with the yips, a frustrating condition that severely affected my game. Watched this video and my putting was instantly fixed. Thank you.😄😄😄😄
Great to hear, thankfully I’m helping golfers all over the world transform their games, there is always another way it’s just a matter of finding the right person to help you.
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I just want to let you know that I just watched your video, went out and played 18 holes, and putted better than I ever have! I've had the yips for decades and the saw grip cured it. I am forever grateful!
That’s awesome, Charles
Unless you’ve ever experienced the yip you’ll never know what it’s truly like. Glad I’ve been able to help you 👍😀
That’s the same grip I came up with about 10 years ago, Julian. I’m 76, and I’d been fighting the yips in my right hand since my high school days. Finding that saw grip - or claw grip, whatever you want to call it - breathed new life into my enjoyment of the game. Thanks for sharing your story. I never told anyone, but I actually 7-putted a hole in a college match one time. I had the yips so bad that day, with that involuntary twitch of the right wrist through impact, that I literally couldn’t make a 12 inch putt. I finished that match putting with a sand wedge, so trust me, I can relate. Stick with your new grip; it will serve you well in the years to come. 👍
It’s no fun that’s for sure Larry, the feeling of being able to hole putts is undesirable
Played last week after watching this vid….didn’t miss a single putt under 4ft !!
Brilliant, thank you.
That’s great to hear Phillip, best feeling when you stand over the ball feeling confident
This video is outstanding. Thanks for your honesty. My putting has been horrendous, I can’t even call it the yips…much worse than that.
I simply could not stabilize my putter face at impact.
I tried this method today and shot one of my best rounds.
I did not even practice this beforehand, just went to the course and tried it. My miss was short today, but the putts were online.
Here’s something crazy.
I practiced putting after my round, six feet and in. I made 24 putts in a row. I was in disbelief but that’s the honest truth.
Thank you!!!!!
What a fantastic message to read, couldn’t be more pleased for you.
If you’ve never experienced the yips then you can never really understand how it feels mentally and physically.
When you experience the good feelings it’s a sense of relief and excitement rolled into 1.
Enjoy your new putting style and have fun with it I say 👍😀
You've described my affliction perfectly, Julian. I too have had the yips for 30 years. The club face twists closed and the contact point is the toe of the club with very little follow through to the hole. I've managed the yips with distraction - long putter, left hand low, side saddle, etc. Changing my focus has worked quite well all these years but until lately I've felt the yips are lurking and going to grab me again. A couple weeks ago I started using the saw grip and I'm confident this is the answer. You point out the right elbow position. I hadn't thought of that as an explanation, but you're right. What I've also found is that for putts 10 feet and less, if I position the ball outside my vertical eye point (so further away), I have a very pure straight back- and-through stroke with a very high make average with the left shoulder doing the work. That ball position doesn't work great for long putts because distance control is more difficult. Thank you for confirming my switch to the saw and explaining the physics of it being the solution to my neurological disorder.
Hi Don, thank you for your kind message, we both know that the yips are no fun and finding a feeling of clubface stability is such a sense of release. Unless you’ve ever felt it you will never understand, I’ve now felt a similar feeling with chips. I used to be outstanding at chipping and yet it’s showed up. I will discover a a method that works but not yet. I’m choosing to think of it as a challenge I can share with other rather than an issue. Keep up the great work. Kindest Regards, Julian
Went from missing 6 inch putts on Sunday to rolling 10 footers in on Monday evening. Never felt the ball come off the putter face like that. Pure roll - Thanks for sharing Julian 🐐
What can I say, it’s the best feeling in the world when you go from despair to elation and the confidence feeds through your whole game. We just need to make sure golfers all over the world know how to fix the yips. 👍
Any tips for wild driving and how to find a swing that you can go to when things are getting erratic off the tee?@@JulianMellor
Your last statement regarding watching RUclips and too many sites has hit home to me. When I discovered your site the other contributors were a waste of time. I like your teachings and a simplified method of swinging the club. A back saver as well. Thanks so much.👍🇨🇦
Fabulous Richard, great awareness
My mum was a very keen golfer. I have had the yips since she died over 3 years ago ... this cured me instantly! Thanks - she would be very pleased ha ha!
That’s so nice to hear, pleased that you found it so helpful.
This is a most brilliant explanation of how the saw actually works - elbow, shoulder, arm and wrist. Thanks so much
My pleasure, hope it helps.
Hi Julian, I have struggled with the yips bad, went back and forth with this grip. The grip worked today and then I found your video. I now know from your explanation why it works, I'll never go back to conventional. Many thanks!! Sincerely, Robert
So pleased you understand how it works and enjoy your putting, should you need any help with the rest of your game check out www.propergolfingacademy.com
That's great Julian, you must be enjoying your golf so much now you have cured the dreaded yips. Thanks for sharing 👍
I no longer dread getting the putter out thankfully. Nice to know that there is always a way to get through golfing issues that so many golfers suffer with.
Thank you for this Julian. Really helpful. I have suffered from the putting yips for several years. For me it is part mental 'expectation leading to nervousness which manifests into tension which creates the push, pull, over-hitting, under-hitting' and part physical. I find that there are several things which I am working on which are helping me personally:
1) The grip (I have used umpteen different ones, but the saw grip is the most comfortable).
2) Grip pressure. Don't grip too tightly with the top hand
3) Taking my time to line up properly as opposed to just walking up and nervously jabbing at it.
4) Picking a spot to roll the ball over for short putts, or for longer putts with break, the 'breaking point' away from the hole
5) Keepng my head still until the putter head has followed through (particularly important on the under 6 foot putts, where the head can follow the ball too early and send it off line).
6) Reinforcing the good putts by telling myself I can do it.
7) Practicing putts under 6 feet at home on the carpet by aiming to knock over an inverted castle tee peg. (this not only improves your confidence when you putt into a much bigger target but also affirms whether you are lining up properly and striking the ball square on the putter face.
It is a constant battle though, but one you have to try and win if you are going to enjoy the game. The amount of competitions I could have won had I holed 5 or 6 more putts per round doesn't bear thinking about......
Hi Howard,
Thank you for your tremendous feedback. You have made some fantastic points there. With regards to the mental affecting the physical I’m working with a university to create a brain training app to to help cure this issue. Getting close to the final product which is proving to be fascinating. I would say that I’m one of the best people to trial this as it’s affected me so badly over the years. If it does what I think it will I’ll tell the world about it. ( watch this space as they say )
7 excellent tips. Thank you Howard.
Your lengthy list of solutions have one thing in common - you've distracted yourself from negative thoughts of a poor mechanical motion. If you put a red dot on the ball or putted with your eyes closed you'd create a temporary distraction that stops you from yipping. The mechanics of the saw grip is the permanent correction (I'm hoping).
I have struggled with the same problem for the past 3 years. Tried the claw grip on the putting green last night and during my round this morning and it was like a miracle. No three putts. Made a few long par putts and a long birdie putt. Completely changed my attitude. I've seen this grip, but your video motivated me to try it. Thank you!
That’s awesome, Dan
Great feeling when you start holing putts and the confidence kicks in. 👍
I can't wait to try this- I've been a yipper since the 1980's- I've tried all sorts of stances and grips and clubs. When it's particularly bad it can really take all the joy out of a day of golf.
Hi John, you and I both know what it means to make contact with the ball in a positive way and I can’t begin to tell you what a difference mentally it’s made
I tried this last round. Putted really well, without any prior practice. All my putts were on line. Most surprising was how well I putted on long putts. With the right hand in a "weak" position I expected to come up short. Not at all. I tended to go past the hole. Very promising. Thanks.
That’s great to hear Ronald, it’s a nice feeling to be in control of the putter head with less fear of hitting poor putts 👍
Julian, I’d the same on Friday, didn’t miss anything less than 4ft. As you say the confidence factor is enormous but it doesn’t just cover putting, your whole attitude to the round changes because you’re not nervous about what you’ll do on the green. You know that if you can get the ball inside 3-4ft, you’ve nailed it !
Totally agree, confidence is a wonderful feeling that’s for sure ✔️
Julian, that's exactly what I have been experiencing over the last three years. I three putt 4 to 5 greens a round and my handicap has sky rocketed from 3.9 to double digits. It is so frustrating. I have tried the claw grip in the past without much success; however, I think it was because I had zero confidence over a short putt. Your video has given me hope because my right wrist is doing exactly what you are describing. I am switching tomorrow. Wish me luck!
Really hope it helps you, Dean. Stay relaxed and try and make the smoothest stroke you can
@@JulianMellor actually used the saw grip in my round yesterday and only had 30 putts. You are definitely on to something.
Wow, that’s awesome
Thank you so much Julian to give me back some hope! After 2 rounds this WE with exactly those symptoms (which are utterly awful to feel) I cannot wait to put that "saw" in practice!
Thanks for your comment, pleased that this has given you hope, you just need to trust it 👍
Tried this today after a couple of seasons of poor putting and major "yips", tried armlock (worked for one round, shoot personal best) then using broomstick putters with some uncomfortable feeling but descent results. Today was the best putting I have felt in a while using the saw grip on a standard length putter! I recommend anyone who struggles with involuntary movement in putting to give this a try! thanks!
That’s fantastic Erik. Thanks for taking time to share this with us all 🙏
Thank you ! I have not been able to stop the slight “ flipping” of the putter. Tried every thing. Watched this vid and raced to my mat in garage. Less tension and square through contact. Work to be done but think I am on the right path , thanks to you.
That’s awesome Chuck, take your time with it and give it a fair try
Packed in completely because of my putting disasters but this makes complete sense to me, definitely ty
Be more than happy to help you Peter. Hope this has inspired you to get back playing again
Thanks
Hope it helps you Micky
Thank you so much. Your description is EXACTLY what I have been facing for years.
I can putt well when practicing but as soon as I am playing a round , I get this involuntary hand spasm at impact.
I just can't go through impact. I have tried all grips and like you I putt with left hand below. Left hand above I have no hope.
Best I have putted is not looking at the ball but at the hole.
Claw too suited me for some time.
Last few rounds I barely hold it with my right hand and basically push back with left and pull back through impact with left hand ( I am right handed).
The saw grip is definately something I am gonna try tomorrow.
Who knows it maybe exactly what I need. Very excited!!!
Thought something was wrong with me.
Can’t wait to hear how you get on. I’m currently running a coaching holiday to in Malta and showed this to them all and everyone has improved their putting
How is this diff from similar but slightly diff pen /claw grip. It's when you don't nestle the grip in between the thumb and the index but hold it with the two. Did you ever try it ?
Played today with the claw grip both putting and short chip and runs . Great improvement and stable feeling on and around the greens
That’s great to hear and pleased that it’s helped you improve your chipping and putting 👍 May 2024 be your year 😀
Julian, thank you for the video. Like you, I have tried every type of putting grip over the years. I've had great difficulty in controlling putting distance and particularly making close in putts; primarily due to involuntary muscle action in the right arm. I tried your approach using the saw grip and found great success! My lag putting is now typically within the 3 ft circle and short putts are now dead on! I now look forward to the challenge of each putt.
That’s fantastic to hear Jack. Couldn’t be more pleased for you. Phew, what a relief 😀👍💯
I suffered from it many years ago. I went to side saddle putting like Snead and then went to a long putter for side saddle putting. It worked really well for me. I think splitting the hands apart helped a lot. Glad to see how you solved this terrible problem. It reminds me of the final years that Hogan played and how he was so ashamed of his putting yips. Just goes to show it can happen to anyone.
It does indeed Gale, liberating once you are released from its chains
@@JulianMellor for sure.
Indeed, always wanting to help golfers improve their game
7 Hdc I turn down playing golf sometimes.Embarrassing painful no fun,Yips.Tension in my right hand I do all the bad strokes,Only when I get to the first green.I use the pencil grip the last 5 years.I can drop too balls down on the practice green run in too 20 footers that break 8 inches.2 guys in a cart said I wish I could putt like that lol,If you only knew.Zero tension practicing,first green though.the Devil takes over,Three putt from 15 feet.You name it I’ve tried it.When that switch come I’m done.
Tried this yesterday. 29 putts. Holed 4 20 footers. Uphill 4 footer - biggest nightmare ever. Went straight in with pace. Might fall in love with golf again.
Isn’t it the best feeling 😀 unless you’ve ever had the yips you can never truly understand what it’s like. Couldn’t be more pleased for you. I hope more golfers get to experience the same thing as you Mark 😀👏
Julian great explanation on saw grip.I will begin my practice with it tomorrow.Keep up your very understandable lessons.Thank You
Thanks Robert, pleased that you are enjoying them 👍
putting has always been a weakness.
excited to try this!
Take your time with it and trust in the stroke. Try to be relaxed and enjoy watching the ball go in more often 👍
I feel your pain Julian. Same issue for me 25 years. Even tried left handed but not good enough. Was trying pencil now. But will now look seriously at Saw.
It’s an unbelievable game changer Ed
Have been doing this for about 6 months, had to change putter to get better feel on long putts but does get rid of yipps.
Fabulous Bob
Most interesting might try this for delicate chips. I had the yips with the driver took two years to sort out the cure?
Shorter more compact swing and I keep my upper arms close to my chest and the trailing elbow more tucked in. I now have more control, better strikes
And more distance! The secret of golf? You have to find your own salvation. I do think though that rhythm and tempo are important and that is why you have good and bad days keep this under control leads to more consistent golf. Keep the great videos coming!
Thanks Seve
This is me! I played so well from tee to green today and left depressed given how poor my putting was! I've tried cackhanded, fat grips, skinny grips, reverse taper, thumbs up etc. I even bought a LAB putter (expensive mistake). Im off to practice this and see how I get on.
Let us know how you get on Keith
Hi Julian thank you very much for this video. I have for quite awhile been aware of the claw grip (Not trued)but I’ve definitely been struggling with a kind of flinch-disease that has started I would say in the last 4 to 5 months and Been devastating my scorecard. I played In a competition Thursday And had 43 putts including 9, 3 putts. it’s been getting tremendously worse because of identifying that I have a hips problem. The shorter the putt for me the more I would be expected to get it, the more likely I am to miss it until you get to literally I would say about 8 inches or 9 inches and then I can get it but if it’s a foot or a foot and a half I can still miss it. The reason I love your video is because you,ve immediately characterised and described and diagnosed the problem precisely (I seen your studies and research on this )I think for most people yips is an involuntary rotational movement just before impact as soon as I heard you talking about that I started watching the whole of your video. I obviously know about the claw group but I haven’t tried it I will definitely give it a go because actually my whole golf game is good some parts are great but I have a problem putting the very last putt into the hole and the shorter it is the more likely I am to miss it because of the pressure to get a short putt and the last second rotation.Thank You very much. I’m now going to use the saw grip. I have a competition on the 12th
Thank you for this great feedback. Hopefully many golfers never experience the yips. Because I have I know from experience what it feels like and those who have never felt it don’t quite know the feeling. When you try it start by putting to the edge of the green first to get the feeling and then start close to the hole and gradually move further away. Good luck next competition 👍
Thanks, Julian. The thing I’m most appreciative of is your understanding and diagnosis of the yips. I am completely over being told it is a symptom of nervousness when putting. Until people, teaching pros in particular, experience that tremble or twitch they will not understand. The saw grip kept me playing golf but I will have a try at your suggestion. Any ideas for chipping and short pitches?
Hi Stu, thanks for taking time to write your message. It’s important that when talking about the yips that you really do understand it and having been in this position for a long time and coming through it makes me believe that it really is curable.
With chipping I’ve recently had some issues which I could mistake for the yips but on closer analysis isn’t the same feeling that I had with the putter. I believe I would now know the difference. I once watched a science program and it seemed to come down to faulty wiring from the brain to the muscles and a cure is to do something totally different to what you would normally do which may be as simple as changing your grip for example. Let me give this some more thought and I’ll attempt to make a video on this.
I had the yips, tried different grips, now i have a long putter, 2 grips. Like swartzel, works well.... 💪
I can honestly say the only thing that cures my yips at the moment is 3 or 4 beers great for my putting but then affects the rest of my game 😂 so I'm going to give this a go tomorrow Thanks Julian 🤞amazing how the mind works
You wouldn’t be the first person to play having had a few beers lol. Just be open minded to it and make some alterations if you need to but stay curious and keep looking for the solution.
Looking forward to trying this tomorrow. Thanks for a great video lesson.☺
Let me know how you get on
I’m so happy for you. Congratulations mate.
Thank you 🙏
Great tip. I have the same problem on putts under 3 feet and the claw grip has cured it. It was soul destroying missing such short putts. On longer putts I use the regular grip and don't have a problem until I get close to the hole. I wonder what causes the yips ?
It’s faulty wiring from the brain to the muscles, doing something different will help.
Had the yips twice in my golfing life, first time taught myself to putt left handed with some success, second time was advised my my club pro to try the claw grip which I have been using for about 5 years and very comfortable with it. Still keep a left handed putter though just in case!
Golfers who have never suffered with them will never know how devastating it is Graham
Thanks, worth a try. I suffer from the yips on chips. Rod
Have you tried a putting style with various clubs ?
Hi Jullian. As you may remember I putt left handed and often use this grip.
It works amazingly
The 'claw-grip' works great in chipping, and even more so if one take advantages of using the natural swing of your trial arm (as while walking) - walk up to the ball from behind with loose arm and line up so your arm swing naturally towards the ball - and then take a claw grip... 👌
Many thanks Julian
It’s made the world of different to me
The claw grip is a great solution, the yips invariably affects the trail hand when the palm faces the hole, - that's why cack handed doesn't really solve it. I'd bet if you tried putting left handed you wouldn't yip even with the right hand being in control. It's surprisingly easy to putt left handed, if you've played any racquet sport playing backhands and forehands are essential skills. I'm sure many golfers would putt far better with the dominant hand on the lead side dragging the face through impact. I also think many would instinctively aim the face better depending on their eye dominance. When I first started snowboarding I was asked the question whether I was regular (left foot forward) or goofy (right foot forward) I had no idea but they told me to run and slide across the lino in my socks. - I was goofy, right foot forward which is unusual for a right hander but the point is the checked my natural tendency, no one does that with golf, golfers and golf coaches just assume right handers should play with right handed clubs. Maybe it's no coincidence that Hogan, Woods, Mickelson with a stack of majors between them all play with their dominant side leading?
Hi Bill, I’ve tried putting left handed and it made things even worse for me. The saw grip is the closest I’ve gotten to solving this issue. I’m now working with a university on this subject which is proving fascinating. “Watch this space as they say 😀”
@@JulianMellor Be very interesting to see the results of that study Julian 👍
Pleased for you. I've had issues from time to time with an over dominant right hand. Best grip I discovered was the one Tommy Fleetwood uses.
It really is about finding what works best for yourself, I know there is no one way to cure the issue but felt it important that I share my story for those who suffer with the yips
I must try your grip.; i ve tried nearly every other way. I ll get back to u. Current putting method is like for chipping. Weight on my left foot with my right foot back about half a shoe length with my hands resting lightly on my left side thus removing any inaccurate hand and arm movement. It currently works well. My left eye is directly over the ball. I do modify my stance depending on circumstances but weight on left side remains.
Look forward to hearing how you get on
Thanks! It works! Yips gone!
That’s great to hear Gregory. How has it helped you?
First time out trying this and a dramatic turn around in putting success was achieved. No more twisting of the Putter!
this is brilliant
I've adopted this grip as suggested by your video and for the first time in a long time I can see a ray of hope. The putting yips hit me out of the blue suddenly one year with no warning and prior to them coming putting was a strength of my game. Like others commenting below and as you mentioned in your video I have tried about everything with minimal or temporary results. Golf was becoming not much fun! This grip and your tips regarding it are showing promise. Question I'd like to ask you is in regard to a bit of the mental aspect of this, especially when first changing over to this grip. If say you do 3 putt the first hole or a hole or two when first starting this, did you have anything you would say or do to not let that bother you? Thanks
Hi Ken,
My mantra is “it’s still a nice day” we miss hit some putts but that doesn’t mean it’s not working.
Thank you for a most helpful video. I never thought you suffered from the yips.
I will give the SAW grip a try although I do NOT have the yips.
HOW MANY FINGERS OF YOUR RIGHT HAND GO ON THE FRONT PART OF THE GRIP ?
DO THE FINGERS GO MORE ACROSS THE GRIP ?
OR DO THE FIRST & SECOND FINGERS GO AT ABOUT 20* & THE OTHER FINGERS GO
AROUND THE BACK.
I WANT TO TRY THIS GRIP BUT WANT TO DO IT THE CORRECT WAY.
I really appreciate your help.
IS THIS GRIP DIFFERENT TO THE CLAW GRIP ?
Renewed thanks to a great golf teacher.
I’ve made a short video on the grip which I’ll email you Alan
Thank you Julian. I am very grateful. @@JulianMellor
@@JulianMellor Julian, can I get a copy of that video showing the grip close up. Struggling for years with the yips!
Thank Julian really clear explanation of why the change helps.
Hope it helps, Phil 👍
Great to hear you've found a solution. Out of interest, did you ever try arm lock putters? Also did you try putting left handed for short putts?
Yes I tried the arm lock but I felt I had to tilt the shoulders which felt unnatural
Looking at the hole instead of the ball cures my yips every time. Problem is, I have trouble hitting it on the sweet spot. I need to get serious about the saw grip though. Thanks
I like the freedom of the stroke when looking at the hole, Joseph. It does take practice to strike the middle of the club.
Yeah, this has helped for the last 2 years, but it is difficult to get stability and accuracy but does helps yips. Down from 45 to 35 putts but still miles off before.
Thanks for the feedback, I need to make another video on this subject and add equal amounts of grip pressure in both hands, this adds another dimension to clubface stability
Well I be… this is exactly what happened to me. Years of yips, everything tried and failed then as a last resort discovered the claw grip and like you problem solved. Well done Julian another problem solved.
Absolutely Lawrence, used it today in a match at Sunningdale and couldn’t believe how well it worked, 11 putts on the b9
Will give it a try.
To say it’s life changing is an understatement Jack
Does the acceleration come from the right or left hand? In other words, is the right hand just going along for the ride or is the left hand just going for the ride?
For me the stability comes from the left hand and the acceleration from the right hand, Jim
Does the grip size matter? I have a pencil grip. Would I need the oversized grip? Thanks
I’ve tried different size grips and it’s a matter of personal preference Eliot
What’s the driving force with this grip? Trying to get a feel for it. Shoulders? Left hand? Right? Never felt so discouraged than I have the last 2 months 😢
It feels much more right hand for me but worth trying all the things you’ve mentioned and find what’s best for you
What toe-hang angle for a putter would be best for the saw / claw putter grip?
Hi Richard, because the sole of the putting is rounded it’s not massively important but it helps if you feel the shaft is more upright 😀
@@JulianMellor no, I am asking about toe-hang angle. The angle of the putter face when holding the shaft horizontally. It is a statistic that putter manufacturers list. A face-balanced putter will have the face pointing straight up when the shaft held loosely horizontally.
Julian, excellent. Do you feel your right or left arm controls the putter for speed? I am a new fan would like to drop the long putter I have gone to ,but am streaky with saw grip.
I like the feeling of the right hand releasing the putter head Patrick 👍
I'm going to try this, my God anything to help this dam game!!!
I agree lol 😀💯
THANK. YOU.
Hope it’s helped you
Julian, it's been 2 years since you posted this video on putting. Do you still feel the same way about putting as a few years have gone by? Thank you.
I do Mike, I’ve added one more thing to feeling of the stroke for myself but the saw grip has made a massive difference to me. Thanks for asking the question 👍
@@JulianMellor Thanks Julian, I've had many of the problems you mentioned in the video, and I've been practicing your claw grip on my garage putting mat. I'll be taking it to the golf course today. So far, everything just seems so much easier.
Brilliant 👍
Excellent
Hope it helps you Martin
Went to the claw years ago and fixed my putting yips. How do I fix the chip yips?
I can certainly help you with that
If anyone who has the yips has tried putting with right hand only, you know how the right hand, arm, wrist elbow, and even the shoulder will do everything possible to mess up the putt. It's actually kind of funny to watch myself...lifts, flicks, tops, and these are 12 inch putts.
The interesting part is when I do practice swings without the ball I can move the putter back and forth without twitching. But as soon as the ball is there everything goes haywire. The one thing I found during these frustrating and crazy right hand practice sessions is my right elbow wanted to lead the putting stroke, and I think my right hand didn't like it and maybe that's why it twitches. Who knows, but if I actually look at my right elbow while putting right hand only, my right elbow didn't lead the putt. Weird stuff.
The saw grip nullifies the right hand and elbow, and the elbow position is very important as noted because it will want to move, if anywhere, in the direction of the putting line. When the right elbow is turned out it seems to promote hand, wrist, elbow, and shoulder twitching.
As for putting with the right hand only, and driving yourself insane watching all the twitching and craziness, I think it's worthwhile to do so even if you can't make a 4 inch putt because the right hand needs severe training. The great part is when I switch to the saw grip, the right hand is VERY silent, almost like it's exhausted and wants to take a break. LOL.
Very well put, anyone who’s never actually experienced what’s it’s like will never truly understand
Pleased for you. Not sure I have the yips but certainly a poor putter. 90% mental for me. I’ve tried all these things but always revert to Bobby Locke style and my 2nd hand Scotty Cameron studio no 1 putter. Top putting tip - leave the head cover in the car boot.
Thanks Dave, I’m a very positive person and I knew that when I found the solution the mental side would be fine. Belief is the 15th club in the bag 👍
@@JulianMellor Out of interest does this method suit face balanced putter better than heel toe or both?
I agree to many videos can make it worse my twitch happens like 2mms before the ball it mad me give up golf
There is always a way forward Ben, have you looked at sidesaddle putting?
wow 50 putts. that is nuts. i am a 6 handicap w/ an average of around 35 to 36 per round. yesterday i had 40 and shot 82. i am really struggling and it is killing my game.
I am working with a university which will prove to be very interesting with regards to the yips , watch this space 👍
by the way have you had the yips come back or darken your portals again since this video?
I’ve kept them at bay, fantastic felling stood over a putt knowing it will feel good
How did you play tournament golf with the yips?
I was a brilliant chipper and practiced hard
Julian, I’m like you but with chipping! My practice is great but on the course under pressure I just chuck it. Any tips?
Apply a putting stroke with various lofts
Bingo!
Interesting - would you recommend this claw grip to anybody, or just as a cure for this specific problem?
After what I have experienced I would recommend it to anyone Ben
As you say, not only direction is affected but distance, because twisting the head as you strike , kills distance too. I was over the yips for several years, but now they are back, worse luck! Will try this.It is also a treat to listen to a nice soft-spoken Englishman as opposed to a harsh, loud snake-oil salesman Yank! ... sorry Americans but you just can't help it!
Thank you, also think about equal and opposite pressure on the grip with both hands. This will stabilise the putter head and encourage bigger muscles to be more involved.
....works great in putting!.... But also in chipping 😊
A video on this subject coming out tomorrow 👍
@@JulianMellor waiting for it 👍
Remember even with the saw grip..you still have to practice the grip until it becomes second nature…but yes the yips are awful..I had the yips using the conventional putting grip and had 40 to 45 putts per round…And the thing about the yips is you keep gripping the putter more firmly and now your distance control is waaaay off…one putt will be 3 foot short and next putt will be 7 to 10 foot past the hole…now with the saw grip my putts per round is approx 30 to 32 And my scores are lower too…
That’s an amazing improvement. I’ve found since that if the grip pressure is even in both hands that it also stabilisers the head
I'm lucky i always find putting easy, my technique is odd, i stand way open, that allows me to swing the putter back and through with nothing in my way, right palm facing the line i want, one practice swing for feel with right hand and let it go, to me putting is feel, guess I'm lucky, it's the driver that gives me the yips, so bad I've no idea where its going, left right, high, low, i feel so twitchy and nervous with it I've started using my 2 Iron
Oh wow, can I ask how tight you hold your driver?
@@JulianMellor thanks Julian, i think its mainly down to the swing changes i made during lockdown, i changed to a more vertical swing plane, as I'm getting older mid 60s i found the flatter rotory hands deep behind me motion was getting hard on my body as had to clear it out of the way fast on the downswing, with the vertical plane I'm hitting my irons probably better than any time in my life, and probably longer, and can fade or draw it, but struggled with the driver over the last few weeks, my grip is strong, always has been, 3 knuckles and I've always gripped the club lightly, I've got a lesson on Saturday, i saw the pro at my local course after i played yesterday and told him i was splaying it all over the place with my driver, he said don't worry I'll sort it, fingers crossed
Let’s trust that your lesson goes to plan and get your driving back on track Richy 👍
Yep, same troubles and the same cure…for now., thank you
Glad it’s helping 👍
Is there a putter that is more suited to this?
I have……..
Toe hang
Plumbers neck
Two ball
Dime store
Obviously, non of which have changed a thing. Sean Rule #5
If my mechanics are right, I can use any putter
If my mechanics are wring, I can’t use any putter 😌
I would say a face balanced putter is better, being more upright at address helps too, Sean
If you putt with trail hand only you will have great success.
Thankfully no yips here.
Good 👍
... sorry - swing naturally towards the hole... 😂
You are putting using mechanics rather than visual and feel, the short game is all feel.
BS , I’ve tried everything known to golf to fix this issue and the only thing that has fixed this is club-face control, unless you’ve ever suffered with putting issues you’ll never understand, you have no feel or vision when you can’t control the clubface
A simple grip change will not eliminate 30 years of demons, see Marcus Bell , Zen Golf, visualise the shot and adapt your intention, you can hold the putter with one hand. I’ve taught a couple of guys with one arm who can take 11 putts in 9 holes
If mechanic is messed up one can visualise and try and play with feel all you want, just doesn't convert.
It's an involuntary spasm through impact.
The only thing that has worked was looking at the hole and putting but lacked consistency on slippery putts. Used to do it as a drill but felt weird taking it to the course. Till I saw Jordan speith do it.