They should make a sleeper Oberth. It can't even go to warp, it has to ride a generated warp wave to get anywhere. But the "nacells" are massive shield generators that the assimilation cube couldn't even drain. The bottom "canoe" part is an oversized phaser lance. Everyone thinks its weak but then they get annihilated.
The phaser lance could actually work, given that the mission pod is detachable and interchangeable… Definitely enough room to cram another warp core in there to power it!
THIS! A brilliant idea! But...knowing Starfleet, they would just promote you from Ensign to Lt. 2nd grade for suggesting this and saving the Federation. 💀
I think the only reason the Federation brings an Oberth-class is its sensors, they to me are the Federation version of a Grumman E-2 Hawkeye, It helps the fleet get the best data, gets data on the enemy for later analysis hence they are seen at most major fights,
Venom geek media uses them in his domionin. War videos in this manner they provide data to ships hiding in a gas cloud or nebula allowing them to torpedo spam through it and hit domion ships outside of their weapons range
Heres a request: How many NX-01's does it take to take down a borg sphere or even a cube. I wanna see what happens if the assimilated transport craft on ST Enterprise was fully converted to a true borg ship before the Enterprise could catch up
Since it took every California Class ship to defeat one Texas Class in Lower Decks, you'd think that thousands of Oberths would be required to take down a Borg Sphere.
I think the Oberth at Wolf 359 was like Britain during WWII, just throwing everything including your grandmothers chair at the Germans. The Oberths were most definitely your grandmothers chair!
I would not want to get hit in the face with my grandmother's chair. It was big and had to mass 200 pounds at a minimum. When she was in her 90's, some dude tried to break into her house, so she picked it up and tossed it at him. The guy looked like he had been hit by a truck. (Some elements of the above paragraph might have been fictional.)
Are for real? Have you not heard of the "battle of Britain"? Us brits held off the German luftwaffe. With far less superior numbers of fighter planes "Spitfires and Hurricanes" against far more German fighter's and not to mention bombers too!
The second to last run seemed to peter out because Oberths only seem to have 30 torpedos so they probably ran out when the sphere was down to the last 10-15% hull and the phasers weren’t doing anything.
Of course Saffi has a sense of humor. She just tends to misplace it somewhere in her quarters. She even had Brex look for it with a tricorder once, when she couldn't find it. He couldn't find it either, though. 😛
True story: my friends and I did this on Star Trek Online. My friend took out an Oberth class against the Borg and named it the USS I'm So Screwed. He never survived more than 15 seconds before he was one shot by the Borg! 😹🙀
@@jeffcullifer5629 honestly Shields dont even exist anymore the speed they vanish at high end missions and TFO/Patrols you really just rely on hull or dodging. Still a fun game though
I was going to mention The Jenolan but looking that up, it was more like The Raven. I've had a random thought, how many Delta Flyers would it take vs a Sphere?
The admiral who refuses to revise the doctrine that keeps sending Mirandas, Oberths and Excelsiors against the deadliest threats of the 24th Century: "I TOLD YOU IT WOULD WORK!"
I had to laugh throughout the entire video. Awesome! XD Meanwhile, somewhere deep in the Delta quadrant: "The Federation isn't really doing this, is it ? Send in our unlimited supply of rectangles!"
Pretty good result for the Oberth given how many ships of more powerful classes were lost at Wolf 359. OK sure this is a sphere not a cube but it goes to show, swarm tactics work best against the Borg. Speaking of Wolf 359 an Oberth being there might be down to desperation although performing deep scans on the cube and relaying that info to the fleet of where to target would make sense tactically, although still a very risky mission. If I were in Starfleet tactical and with limited resources, the was I'd use them is as fireships. Load them up with explosives, set the warp core to breach, use the bare minimum crew and have them set a ramming course on the Borg ship and beam the hell out of there.
Take an Oberth class ship, remove ALL the science equipment and nonessential's from it, and, pack the newly emptied space with torpedoes and shield-generators. And, of course, give it ablative armor.
Somehow I suspect 50 Oberths take less material to construct than a sphere and also require fewer crew/drones. If this actually happened in canon it would be bad for the borg.
exactly! i mean...in TOS they sent in the Constellation kamikaze to win against an otherwise impregnable Planet Eater/Doomsday Machine...Starfleet in the 24th century just doesn't have the brains when it comes to tactics.
There is one way to make the battle canoe useful, remote pilot them and use them as anti-matter warp anti-borg missiles, kind of like the Cardassian dreadnought missiles.
Considering Oberth-Class starships were used for scientific research, and the length of service being from 2270-2380, there were technically hundreds if not thousands made according to StarFleet. Especially if you take into account their Registry numbers.
Even an Oberth can get in a lucky shot every once in a while. And with fifty of them, that's a lot of lucky shots. Though I really think you shouldn't have used the U.S.S.Killmenow as a command ship.
It is a massive waste of resources. But let's say with 30 sec survivability they can use 5 people per ship. Which means you only lost about 100 crew. Not bad
😳Hey Admiral.. hope you are doing well also, hmm I do hope you installed transphasics.. eeh.. But that cloak, on Riker's old ship was and amazing device, cloak and go through matter, that would have saved a lot of ships, against the Borg, Klingons, Romulans, Dominion.. gosh. just saying.. Yes I remember gosh, poor Grissom.. and funny how , Kirk could see the distortion, from the cloaked Bird of Prey on the view screen, hmmm.. Hexagonal_Nexul did an amazing job with the Borg Sphere, or '' Borg is Fear lol'' sorry.. 😨😂 ''Oooh Saffi'' instead of warp out, ah lets explode. lol oh gosh.. Gosh.. if only use that advance cloak to phase into the Sphere and fire inside it, and phase out.. hmm. that would be wicked.. Nicely done Admiral.. 50 and it worked.. sorry you got kaboomed. eeh. I like the Oberth, cute ship, My Akira, in the main one, but would use the Oberth with that cloak, as my Captain's Yacht. lol. enough room for 1.. lol. love the battle and wow, ''The Flight of The Oberths'' for sure.. !!😊🖖
I loved this one. At 2:34 when you blew up right after decloaking I actually was surprised but got a good chuckle out of it. That was hilarious it took FIFTY of them to destroy the Borg sphere. Holy crap lol. It was even more hilarious when the Borg ship blew up you still blew up because you forgot to decloak in time lol. I've always loved the design of the Oberth... but where the hell are the weapon hard points?! Like phaser emitters torpedo launchers .... things like that. Why did they not thing to put them on the studio model? When I built the 1/350th Pegasus I should have thought and added phaser strips of sorts to it. I might actually do it sometime... maybe even add a torpedo launcher to it.
Thanks Trenton! That's a really good point, it seems bizarre to make any ship in Starfleet so defenceless. Knowing how dangerous space travel is. Your right, it's crying out for Weapon Hard Points!
I know I've commented this before, but every time I see the Oberth, I *still* have flashbacks to the USS Banting from the Starfleet Academy: Starship bridge simulator on the SNES. That thing was *COMICALLY* under powered when it came to combat.
Heh, maybe 35 would have done it? Oberth's might be very weak and fragile, but they are still starships. Photon torpedoes are powerful bombs if nothing else, and even basic shields are able to negate insane amounts of potential damage. More to the point, when fighting the Borg, it's a time for all hands on deck! I remember playing "Birth of the Federation"; leaving a task force of Oberth scouts out of the action because 'they won't bring much to the table and they're valuable as eyes and ears' is the wrong attitude! Yes, the poor Oberths would be cannon fodder, but their hit points would nonetheless allow more potent starships to last long enough to kill the cube! Never risk losing a battle for the sake of some Oberths! And yes, several Oberths CAN indeed play a significant role. Even if it's just as distraction and a firepower sink.
This was hilarious to watch! Getting one-shotted basically every time 😂 But I feel like we need to establish some sort of conversion chart... Just like how in the metric system is centered around the meter/liter (kilo-meter, milli-liter, etc), it would be helpful to easily compare each battle to the TRUE measurement of starship capability - the Defiant! In that spirit, we've already seen how many Defiants it takes to take down a Galaxy class. So, next can we see how many Oberths it takes to overpower the Defiant?
Two things I would have, perhaps, done differently. 1: It should have been a Borg Cube. 2: You should have used Mirandas instead of Oberths. Still, this was entertaining to watch.
IIRC, and this may be beta canon (books etc.) the Oberth-class at Wolf-359 (U.S.S. Bonestall) was in fact bait, set up to give off signals suggesting it was carrying advanced Federation technology, and that's why the Cube stopped in the system at all. I love that it was mass torpedo barrages which won the day. Doesn't matter what class of ship you're in, a photon torpedo is a photon torpedo!
The Sydney Class Transport that Scotty was aboard took more fire from a Galaxy Class Starship whilst it was jamming 2 huge space doors of a Dyson Sphere open....than an Oberth took from a puny Klingon Bird of Prey
Starfleet Command: Congratulations, Commander! You're getting promoted to your first command! Me: That's amazing! Thank you so much! I've worked so hard for this day! Years of preparation has led to this! Starfleet Command: We're giving you an Oberth-Class! Me: *hands in resignation and joins the Maquis*
Torpedoes from 50 Oberths slamming into the Sphere looks exactly like when I do stand up comedy and the audience starts throwing tomatoes.
Sadly, I know exactly what you mean. (Sobs.)
At the end of the day though, that means you can be a Chad Borg Sphere, while the audience can be Virgin Oberth Classes.
The worst is doing open mic right after a food drive... Almost everything is canned😐😑
You must be pretty good. They only throw tomatoes!!!!
@@joe9739 🥁
Oberth: “Tis but a scratch,”
Borg: "You Lie!"
LOL, that ending. The explodium class strikes again.
They should make a sleeper Oberth. It can't even go to warp, it has to ride a generated warp wave to get anywhere. But the "nacells" are massive shield generators that the assimilation cube couldn't even drain. The bottom "canoe" part is an oversized phaser lance. Everyone thinks its weak but then they get annihilated.
The phaser lance could actually work, given that the mission pod is detachable and interchangeable… Definitely enough room to cram another warp core in there to power it!
You get close enough, and you'll see that the name on the hull is "USS 🖕 YOU". But by the time you're within visual range, it's already too late.
I've been saying someone should make an Oberth-class X From Hell
@@mghobbs8604 That's what I was just thinking. 😁
THIS! A brilliant idea! But...knowing Starfleet, they would just promote you from Ensign to Lt. 2nd grade for suggesting this and saving the Federation. 💀
Woohoo!!! My idea got picked.
Thanks dude.
(I knew this would be hilarious)
Only because Captain J.T. Esteban commanded the unit. Archer could have pulled it off.
Zapp Brannigan: Stop exploding you cowards!!!
LOL! We'll send wave after wave at them!
I think the only reason the Federation brings an Oberth-class is its sensors, they to me are the Federation version of a Grumman E-2 Hawkeye, It helps the fleet get the best data, gets data on the enemy for later analysis hence they are seen at most major fights,
Venom geek media uses them in his domionin. War videos in this manner they provide data to ships hiding in a gas cloud or nebula allowing them to torpedo spam through it and hit domion ships outside of their weapons range
When i read the title, my first thought was "more than BC" can handle.
Heres a request:
How many NX-01's does it take to take down a borg sphere or even a cube.
I wanna see what happens if the assimilated transport craft on ST Enterprise was fully converted to a true borg ship before the Enterprise could catch up
With Every ~Thing it had Before it was Moth ~ Balled Retired ;
10:27 "Victory is life" **Dies**
perfect comedic timing
For the Horde!
When I saw this in my notifications, I was thinking that it will destroy your computer again.
That ending 😂😂😂, love your commentary 🤣.
Since it took every California Class ship to defeat one Texas Class in Lower Decks, you'd think that thousands of Oberths would be required to take down a Borg Sphere.
Fun fact, the Pegasus was supposed to be an ambassador class, but because the model was damaged, they used an oberth instead.
Never knew that! 🖖
I think the Oberth at Wolf 359 was like Britain during WWII, just throwing everything including your grandmothers chair at the Germans. The Oberths were most definitely your grandmothers chair!
I would not want to get hit in the face with my grandmother's chair. It was big and had to mass 200 pounds at a minimum. When she was in her 90's, some dude tried to break into her house, so she picked it up and tossed it at him. The guy looked like he had been hit by a truck.
(Some elements of the above paragraph might have been fictional.)
Are for real? Have you not heard of the "battle of Britain"? Us brits held off the German luftwaffe. With far less superior numbers of fighter planes "Spitfires and Hurricanes" against far more German fighter's and not to mention bombers too!
The second to last run seemed to peter out because Oberths only seem to have 30 torpedos so they probably ran out when the sphere was down to the last 10-15% hull and the phasers weren’t doing anything.
4:47 To quote the great Captain Zapp Brannigan:
"Stop exploding, you cowards!!"
You answered a question i never thought I wanted to hear. Oberth class 4 ever
With a single command you need a lot less Oberth to beat the sphere: Prepare for ramming Speed.
Of course Saffi has a sense of humor. She just tends to misplace it somewhere in her quarters. She even had Brex look for it with a tricorder once, when she couldn't find it. He couldn't find it either, though. 😛
🤣🤣🤣
Request. Five dreadnaught class from TOS era against one galaxy class.
Nice to see a Borg ship with actual firepower. Most of the ones in this game are hilariously underpowered compared to their on screen performance.
The Oberth Class motto.. "Morientur Ridentes" or They will die Laughing!
The Oberth is made of pure explodium. You would only need one to take out a sphere... as long as its inside the Borg ship.
True story: my friends and I did this on Star Trek Online. My friend took out an Oberth class against the Borg and named it the USS I'm So Screwed. He never survived more than 15 seconds before he was one shot by the Borg! 😹🙀
Sometimes, I miss STO. Do the spheres still drain shields faster than the cubes? That always irked me.
@@jeffcullifer5629 honestly
Shields dont even exist anymore the speed they vanish at high end missions and TFO/Patrols you really just rely on hull or dodging. Still a fun game though
Oberths die to borg like those shuttle pilots that tried to delay the borg cube the first time they made a try for sector 001.
This is cruel and unusual punishment on the Oberths!
I was going to mention The Jenolan but looking that up, it was more like The Raven. I've had a random thought, how many Delta Flyers would it take vs a Sphere?
The admiral who refuses to revise the doctrine that keeps sending Mirandas, Oberths and Excelsiors against the deadliest threats of the 24th Century: "I TOLD YOU IT WOULD WORK!"
Finally someone is answering the questions in my life I never knew I had.
I'm extremely fond of the Oberth class, but it really couldn't ever hope to fare well against the Borg.
Wow, that was hilarious and totally enjoyable!!
I had to laugh throughout the entire video. Awesome! XD
Meanwhile, somewhere deep in the Delta quadrant: "The Federation isn't really doing this, is it ? Send in our unlimited supply of rectangles!"
Pretty good result for the Oberth given how many ships of more powerful classes were lost at Wolf 359. OK sure this is a sphere not a cube but it goes to show, swarm tactics work best against the Borg.
Speaking of Wolf 359 an Oberth being there might be down to desperation although performing deep scans on the cube and relaying that info to the fleet of where to target would make sense tactically, although still a very risky mission. If I were in Starfleet tactical and with limited resources, the was I'd use them is as fireships. Load them up with explosives, set the warp core to breach, use the bare minimum crew and have them set a ramming course on the Borg ship and beam the hell out of there.
Take an Oberth class ship, remove ALL the science equipment and nonessential's from it, and, pack the newly emptied space with torpedoes and shield-generators. And, of course, give it ablative armor.
I’m liking this before I even watch it all. 👍🖖
Somehow I suspect 50 Oberths take less material to construct than a sphere and also require fewer crew/drones. If this actually happened in canon it would be bad for the borg.
Pre-watch prediction: an entire fleet!
One. Just pack it full of antimatter, cloak it, and ram the Borg ship at maximum warp.
exactly! i mean...in TOS they sent in the Constellation kamikaze to win against an otherwise impregnable Planet Eater/Doomsday Machine...Starfleet in the 24th century just doesn't have the brains when it comes to tactics.
Love the oberth❤❤❤
Imagine joining Starfleet and being assigned to an Oberth!
"Another 'glob fly'." - Worf
“I served on enough Oberth Classes to know where this is going”
Oberth...the Ford Pinto of Starfleet 😆
lol! 🚗💥
"Veeeeeeeeeryyyyy fuuuuuunnnnnnny time been!"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Your video is very good been 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟💖👍👏🖖😉.
Next video: How many shuttlecraft to take down a Dyson sphere.
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There is one way to make the battle canoe useful, remote pilot them and use them as anti-matter warp anti-borg missiles, kind of like the Cardassian dreadnought missiles.
This makes the most sense.
"RBG decloaks"
Borg sphere: and I took that personally....
Considering Oberth-Class starships were used for scientific research, and the length of service being from 2270-2380, there were technically hundreds if not thousands made according to StarFleet. Especially if you take into account their Registry numbers.
I don't think there's enough explodium alloy in the galaxy to come with enough Oberth ships to slam into the Borg.
Thanks so much for trying this! :D
The oberth class in battle is about as useful a two legged camera tripod.
i love those ship i got it from star trek online game i like that ship alol good job with this video good job :) i am your big fan
Even an Oberth can get in a lucky shot every once in a while. And with fifty of them, that's a lot of lucky shots. Though I really think you shouldn't have used the U.S.S.Killmenow as a command ship.
Why are you throwing kittens at a pitbull, bro? 😂
How many Oberths to defeat a Borg Shuttle ;)
O O F XD
All of them.
I couldn't stop laughing , retro thank you bud ❤ sending virtual high fives and hugs
Ah the Good old Explodium Canoe
It is a massive waste of resources. But let's say with 30 sec survivability they can use 5 people per ship. Which means you only lost about 100 crew. Not bad
This was a hilarious idea.
😳Hey Admiral.. hope you are doing well also, hmm I do hope you installed transphasics.. eeh.. But that cloak, on Riker's old ship was and amazing device, cloak and go through matter, that would have saved a lot of ships, against the Borg, Klingons, Romulans, Dominion.. gosh. just saying.. Yes I remember gosh, poor Grissom.. and funny how , Kirk could see the distortion, from the cloaked Bird of Prey on the view screen, hmmm.. Hexagonal_Nexul did an amazing job with the Borg Sphere, or '' Borg is Fear lol'' sorry.. 😨😂 ''Oooh Saffi'' instead of warp out, ah lets explode. lol oh gosh.. Gosh.. if only use that advance cloak to phase into the Sphere and fire inside it, and phase out.. hmm. that would be wicked.. Nicely done Admiral.. 50 and it worked.. sorry you got kaboomed. eeh. I like the Oberth, cute ship, My Akira, in the main one, but would use the Oberth with that cloak, as my Captain's Yacht. lol. enough room for 1.. lol. love the battle and wow, ''The Flight of The Oberths'' for sure.. !!😊🖖
Now Oberths versus Borg Cube.
I loved this one.
At 2:34 when you blew up right after decloaking I actually was surprised but got a good chuckle out of it.
That was hilarious it took FIFTY of them to destroy the Borg sphere. Holy crap lol. It was even more hilarious when the Borg ship blew up you still blew up because you forgot to decloak in time lol.
I've always loved the design of the Oberth... but where the hell are the weapon hard points?! Like phaser emitters torpedo launchers .... things like that. Why did they not thing to put them on the studio model?
When I built the 1/350th Pegasus I should have thought and added phaser strips of sorts to it. I might actually do it sometime... maybe even add a torpedo launcher to it.
Thanks Trenton! That's a really good point, it seems bizarre to make any ship in Starfleet so defenceless. Knowing how dangerous space travel is. Your right, it's crying out for Weapon Hard Points!
I thought there would be no amount that could defeat the Borg sphere but I was wrong. Until the end, when the explosion took you out 😂🖖
2:05
"No, we didn't use a 'cloaking device'....we just.... weren't visible..."
I know I've commented this before, but every time I see the Oberth, I *still* have flashbacks to the USS Banting from the Starfleet Academy: Starship bridge simulator on the SNES. That thing was *COMICALLY* under powered when it came to combat.
Ah but how many Oberths could take out a Galaxy Class?
Now to do the same test with the Texas class
Heh, maybe 35 would have done it? Oberth's might be very weak and fragile, but they are still starships. Photon torpedoes are powerful bombs if nothing else, and even basic shields are able to negate insane amounts of potential damage. More to the point, when fighting the Borg, it's a time for all hands on deck!
I remember playing "Birth of the Federation"; leaving a task force of Oberth scouts out of the action because 'they won't bring much to the table and they're valuable as eyes and ears' is the wrong attitude! Yes, the poor Oberths would be cannon fodder, but their hit points would nonetheless allow more potent starships to last long enough to kill the cube! Never risk losing a battle for the sake of some Oberths! And yes, several Oberths CAN indeed play a significant role. Even if it's just as distraction and a firepower sink.
The Oberth exploding in sympathy, at the end. 🤣
Ty for the video and LLAP!
Oberth vs kvort is a very tough fight
I love the Oberth class
This was hilarious to watch! Getting one-shotted basically every time 😂
But I feel like we need to establish some sort of conversion chart... Just like how in the metric system is centered around the meter/liter (kilo-meter, milli-liter, etc), it would be helpful to easily compare each battle to the TRUE measurement of starship capability - the Defiant! In that spirit, we've already seen how many Defiants it takes to take down a Galaxy class. So, next can we see how many Oberths it takes to overpower the Defiant?
The Oberth is basically the Dragon Ball Z Abridged Raditz. They measured power levels in terms of Raditzes in that series.
This reminded me of the last JJ Abrams Trek movie, with the "swarm" of little ships that eviscerated the Enterprise.
Would like to see a Delta quadrant Gamma Quadrant match-up!!!
3 Borg cubes vs. 3 Dominion Battlecruisers!!!
I did this in Birth of the Federation. It took a lot 😂.
Oh it was a borg sphere... i think my brain skipped that part and said oh no BORG lol
Two things I would have, perhaps, done differently.
1: It should have been a Borg Cube.
2: You should have used Mirandas instead of Oberths.
Still, this was entertaining to watch.
This was beautiful 🥹 #OberthStrong 💪🦆
Victory is Life... omg he went dominion on me! lol
IIRC, and this may be beta canon (books etc.) the Oberth-class at Wolf-359 (U.S.S. Bonestall) was in fact bait, set up to give off signals suggesting it was carrying advanced Federation technology, and that's why the Cube stopped in the system at all.
I love that it was mass torpedo barrages which won the day. Doesn't matter what class of ship you're in, a photon torpedo is a photon torpedo!
Need to do more of these lol
So it took fifthy oberths? Just proves if you throw enough shit at the wall...😅
RBG Oberth-X Class from Hell vs. Death Star when?
I did this in the game Birth of the Federation. 18 oberths just to take the first volley of the Borg Cube. The small ships were always targeted first
Lets not forget the Borg Sphere is essentially an escape pod for the Borg Cube lol
Well, on the plus side, 30 of them is way less personnel lost than at Wolf 359...... Or probably Sector 001
I'm guessiing the one at the battles must have been upgraded
The Sydney Class Transport that Scotty was aboard took more fire from a Galaxy Class Starship whilst it was jamming 2 huge space doors of a Dyson Sphere open....than an Oberth took from a puny Klingon Bird of Prey
"Quantity has a quality all its own..."
The Borg don't even bother trying to assimilate. I'm surprised they're not just ignoring the first 12
Background music should have been “the flight of the Valkyrie” lol😂
Think about the number of oberths it would take to take out the assimilation cube
Starfleet Command: Congratulations, Commander! You're getting promoted to your first command!
Me: That's amazing! Thank you so much! I've worked so hard for this day! Years of preparation has led to this!
Starfleet Command: We're giving you an Oberth-Class!
Me: *hands in resignation and joins the Maquis*
This is better than the end of star trek voyager! lol
I like the oberth design!
Flight of the oberth, that's like playing flight of the valkyrie on kazoo.😂
that was SICK !!! crazy cool !
10:27 Victory is life!
Borg drones: I'm about to end this man's career.
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