There are a couple details that should be mentioned with this for context. In the Battle Story, Zoid Cores were also for breeding. I'll skip details, but they eventually lost that ability because, using human technology with Zoidian influence, Zoid Cores started being artificially mass produced. I can't remember if the man-made cores lacked the ability to breed or not, but unfortunately it was a moot point regardless. Zoids needed bodies of water with heavy metal content for their offspring to construct bodies around themselves, and as Zi became more Earth like they no longer existed. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just spreading lore.
I think that the Battle Story lore regarding the development of Combat Zoids is one of the most interesting aspects, and I think that it's a shame an anime series hasn't explored it in a way similar to Gundam: Origin. I've always thought it would be interesting to see the Wild Zoids transitioned into combat Zoids, and I imagine that for every type of war vehicle conceived, that the Zoidians had an equivalent. Including large ocean-going warships. If human history is any indication, I'm sure that the early experiments of implanting controls, and then placing the cores in artificial bodies were nothing short of horrific. Media seems to imply that the Zoid cores themselves are actually pretty hardy, and apparently can survive the body being eaten by a predator, so maybe most of them survived the experiments? Still, I'm sure that they can experience pain, and pass out/die of shock like most known complex life forms. There is also the possibility that some Zoidians tribes actually tried to build non-Zoid combat vehicles, finding the Frankenstein experiments to harvest the cores and place them into an artificial body to be unethical (but like the later Blox, found them to be less effective than combat Zoids). Nothing like a hot war to make someone reconsider just how important their ethic practices truly are.
Do we ever get any additional references of reggel outside of Genesis? I mean, if Zoids are sentient and alive, it would make sense that they require a fuel source. Even the combat zoids versions too. But we never see anything about that in the other animes I don't think. Was that a gimmick for this season alone, or is that true to the entire canon?
I always thought of zoids as more like coral than like fungus. I figured the zoid core is like a coral polyp, its the actual living part of the animal, rather than build up a mineral shell to live in the way a coral would the zoid core instead constructs a metallic mechanical body. Some would eat rocks to extract the trace ores from them, predatory zoids would instead eat other zoids as a more concentrated source of metal. I never decided if I thought they were eating uranium to power themselves or if they would drink water to extract deuterium for fusion power.
I only watched Zoids as a kid, was never really big into them. Was more of a Transformers kid. So I never knew much outside of the tiny bits I remember from the Century animes. I always assumed they were mass produced mechs from factories, had no idea there were Zoids that actual were animals. Learn something new everyday.
@@sirphoboszoids Zoids were Tomy, Transformers were Takara, although some of the designers worked for both (and then some), apparently one of Heisei Mechagodzilla's designers worked on the Gojulas series and Trypticon.
watching this video i just remembered having a blox zoid that looked like some kind of weird insect creature that my brother bought in a brocante. I don't have it anymore sadly.
This is a goldmine video for helping me catch up on lore I didn't know about. Based on how natural wild zoids are born and develop over time, would it be reasonable to compare them to a transformer? I might be overly forcing the comparison, but at least as shown in the Michael Bay versions, the Transformers themselves are organically developed so it just feels somewhat similar.
@@sirphoboszoids I don't remember what they were called in the lore. But the waay earlier wind-up Zoids, that looked like skeletons rather than the more filled out animalistic ones that came later. And after googling, no, not Bio Zoids. The ones I'm talking about are way older than the various anime. Checking further, they're the line from the early 1980s, including Elephantus, Garius, Glidoler, and others. Edit: Checking further, the lore seems to be called 'Battle Story' in that era.
Really, there's only 2 types of zoids. There's the wildzoids, and then there was the man-made ones, so it's the man mind's always with the ones. Most people know from the shows while Lore were energized later on to make them more animalistic. And the wild Zoids were really only introduced because people loved Leger zero, which was a sentient zoid.
Not quite right. Wild zoids and the lore behind combat zoids existed long before the introduction of the liger zero in the original lore and later in the 2nd of 7 animes. All zoids are sentient (blox zoids have ai of some sort so I’d count that)
@@assassinred426 oh absolutely. And some things were retconned like zoidians being lizard men. But wild zoids and their place in zoids predates liger zero by quite a bit. Even Zeke was a wild zoid in the 1st anime. Wild zoids and zoids being sentient were part of the battle story lore a good while before we got the animes. (Side note. It’s still weird that zoids started in 1983 but didn’t get an anime til 1999. 16 years is pretty long)
Correct. Saber Lion doesn’t have one. It’s too small. It was designed for urban guerrilla warfare. So it’s tiny but it fits into small confined spaces like alleyways and between buildings that larger zoids wouldn’t be able to navigate
Are the Zoids Wild Zoids closer to to the wild Zoids from the lore? Maybe that is what they wanted to go with. But I don't think they said if those ones had organs or cores. Since they don't have cockpits maybe they are still the closest to the first wild Zoids. I'm willing to bet they have organs since Zoids like the Death Rex can eat other Zoids for nourishment.
There are a couple details that should be mentioned with this for context. In the Battle Story, Zoid Cores were also for breeding. I'll skip details, but they eventually lost that ability because, using human technology with Zoidian influence, Zoid Cores started being artificially mass produced. I can't remember if the man-made cores lacked the ability to breed or not, but unfortunately it was a moot point regardless. Zoids needed bodies of water with heavy metal content for their offspring to construct bodies around themselves, and as Zi became more Earth like they no longer existed. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just spreading lore.
Awesome info mate!
I think that the Battle Story lore regarding the development of Combat Zoids is one of the most interesting aspects, and I think that it's a shame an anime series hasn't explored it in a way similar to Gundam: Origin.
I've always thought it would be interesting to see the Wild Zoids transitioned into combat Zoids, and I imagine that for every type of war vehicle conceived, that the Zoidians had an equivalent. Including large ocean-going warships.
If human history is any indication, I'm sure that the early experiments of implanting controls, and then placing the cores in artificial bodies were nothing short of horrific. Media seems to imply that the Zoid cores themselves are actually pretty hardy, and apparently can survive the body being eaten by a predator, so maybe most of them survived the experiments? Still, I'm sure that they can experience pain, and pass out/die of shock like most known complex life forms.
There is also the possibility that some Zoidians tribes actually tried to build non-Zoid combat vehicles, finding the Frankenstein experiments to harvest the cores and place them into an artificial body to be unethical (but like the later Blox, found them to be less effective than combat Zoids). Nothing like a hot war to make someone reconsider just how important their ethic practices truly are.
another example of Stray Zoids were the Elephanders in Genesis where they look for reggel
Do we ever get any additional references of reggel outside of Genesis? I mean, if Zoids are sentient and alive, it would make sense that they require a fuel source. Even the combat zoids versions too. But we never see anything about that in the other animes I don't think. Was that a gimmick for this season alone, or is that true to the entire canon?
I always thought of zoids as more like coral than like fungus. I figured the zoid core is like a coral polyp, its the actual living part of the animal, rather than build up a mineral shell to live in the way a coral would the zoid core instead constructs a metallic mechanical body. Some would eat rocks to extract the trace ores from them, predatory zoids would instead eat other zoids as a more concentrated source of metal. I never decided if I thought they were eating uranium to power themselves or if they would drink water to extract deuterium for fusion power.
Finding a Zoids channel is so rare, thank you for your information!
A 5 minute video from Phobos? This is the long form lore video we’ve all been praying for 😅😅❤
I only watched Zoids as a kid, was never really big into them. Was more of a Transformers kid. So I never knew much outside of the tiny bits I remember from the Century animes. I always assumed they were mass produced mechs from factories, had no idea there were Zoids that actual were animals. Learn something new everyday.
Yup! Zoids and Transformers both originally came from TakaraTomy, so they have many similarities
@@sirphoboszoids Zoids were Tomy, Transformers were Takara, although some of the designers worked for both (and then some), apparently one of Heisei Mechagodzilla's designers worked on the Gojulas series and Trypticon.
watching this video i just remembered having a blox zoid that looked like some kind of weird insect creature that my brother bought in a brocante. I don't have it anymore sadly.
This is a goldmine video for helping me catch up on lore I didn't know about.
Based on how natural wild zoids are born and develop over time, would it be reasonable to compare them to a transformer? I might be overly forcing the comparison, but at least as shown in the Michael Bay versions, the Transformers themselves are organically developed so it just feels somewhat similar.
@@Alice_Haukea perhaps~
I’m not as well versed in transformers biology or reproduction
@@sirphoboszoids That's fair, neither am I. Was just making a surface level comparison.
idk what was going on in the background of the beginning but it was awesome lol.
The first screen was just promo images for the zoids 40th anniversary. They happened to use Wild and Combat zoids for the art so it seemed fitting
now that was a good, clear and concise explanation
Amazing content!
Please tell us more about the origin of zoids.
Ah..you don't have any of the olllld-school 'skeletal' Zoids?
Skeletal zoids? Like Bio Zoids?
@@sirphoboszoids I don't remember what they were called in the lore. But the waay earlier wind-up Zoids, that looked like skeletons rather than the more filled out animalistic ones that came later. And after googling, no, not Bio Zoids. The ones I'm talking about are way older than the various anime. Checking further, they're the line from the early 1980s, including Elephantus, Garius, Glidoler, and others.
Edit: Checking further, the lore seems to be called 'Battle Story' in that era.
@@VulpisFoxfire Oh then yeah I’ve got some stuff from the 80s. I’ve got Glidoler :3
Really, there's only 2 types of zoids. There's the wildzoids, and then there was the man-made ones, so it's the man mind's always with the ones. Most people know from the shows while Lore were energized later on to make them more animalistic. And the wild Zoids were really only introduced because people loved Leger zero, which was a sentient zoid.
Not quite right. Wild zoids and the lore behind combat zoids existed long before the introduction of the liger zero in the original lore and later in the 2nd of 7 animes.
All zoids are sentient (blox zoids have ai of some sort so I’d count that)
@@sirphoboszoids Have been a lot of the stuff was added later not initially
@@assassinred426 oh absolutely. And some things were retconned like zoidians being lizard men.
But wild zoids and their place in zoids predates liger zero by quite a bit. Even Zeke was a wild zoid in the 1st anime. Wild zoids and zoids being sentient were part of the battle story lore a good while before we got the animes.
(Side note. It’s still weird that zoids started in 1983 but didn’t get an anime til 1999. 16 years is pretty long)
@@sirphoboszoids Yeah, I know they've changed a lot of the Lore But in my opinion When they start a tweak in the Lore just made it more convoluted
@@sirphoboszoids Here's a good way to explain my viewlin's voice. My favorite are Chaotic century new century and genesis And the rest I didn't like.
So the first zoid you get in zoids legacy doesnt have a cockpit?
Correct. Saber Lion doesn’t have one. It’s too small. It was designed for urban guerrilla warfare. So it’s tiny but it fits into small confined spaces like alleyways and between buildings that larger zoids wouldn’t be able to navigate
Are the Zoids Wild Zoids closer to to the wild Zoids from the lore? Maybe that is what they wanted to go with. But I don't think they said if those ones had organs or cores. Since they don't have cockpits maybe they are still the closest to the first wild Zoids. I'm willing to bet they have organs since Zoids like the Death Rex can eat other Zoids for nourishment.
yes the zoids in Zoids Wild are wild zoids
I new to this. so, zoids are like technorganic beings or organic evolved into mechanical beings
aint it sad that the best tomy zoid line was saddled with the worst zoid anime. neo blox zoids suck though.