David Pawson wrote, " The majority of Jesus' warnings about hell were given to born-again believers! Yet I meet many believers who have no fear of hell because they assume that it can never happen to those who call themselves Christians." " The apostle Paul reminds born-again believers that all will appear before the judgement seat of Christ. We are justified by faith, but judged by works." " Most people think of his (God's) faithfulness as keeping on doing good things for us, but his faithfulness is seen in punishing as much as in pardoning." So what kind of grace is JP preaching? Its his own feel-good grace crafted to suck people into his fold to serve his egocentric agenda
He has removed all God’s do’s and don’ts in the bible. Now that we have been made righteous by receiving the gift of Christ’s righteousness, the next step is surely to start living a righteous life empowered by the Holy Spirit. How does his members know how to live a righteous life when he does not teach them at all God’s will and instructions.
Why was Lawrence smiling when telling us he had sexual sins in the past and yet tell us at the same time he got no time to share? Did he really repented? What does he mean God help him to turn around? Did he committed sexual sins after being a pastor? If yes, was he councelled by the senior pastor and church elders? Why is he still allowed to preached? Should he has confessed to the church? We are not to judge on his sins but how the church could have handed to this issue. They need to be accountable to the church members.
A classic example of taking a single verse out of context. If you read the chapter the words "don't you know" is Paul is actually rebuking the believers for visiting prostitutes and not encouraging them. He is twisting the scriptures and becoming more brazen and careless
Confession of sin in *1 John 1:9* is not to confess before men; but to God because it is supposed to show our humility and sincerity to God that we want to repent. Confession of sin to men is also possible in *Jas 5 :16* to show humility and sincerity for our apology to those we have wronged too. However, confession of sin in the public to show boasting of grace that we are forgiven of all kinds of sins including sexual sins is never taught in the Bible. Of course, if a pastor or sinner still wants to share about his testimony of how terrible he was when he was a thief, conman, adulterer, fornicator, cheater, liar, boaster, or even a murderer, he has to do it appropriately and humbly to show people that he has been broken, properly dealt with, and paid dearly in repentance. Please think, What if a pastor stood on the pulpit and boasted: 1. about the grace that he has been forgiven for all his past, present, and future sins after he has slept with different women of his congregation, and 2. about how grace is greater than all his sins and that grace has helped him to enjoy life so much so that he makes many people jealous of him (especially his critics and those who were abused by him)? Will that really help his congregation to understand the power of grace? Probably, he really believe that; however, he should really examine and ask himself if he has truly repented from his sins, or he has only regretted about his sins and would just want to show that he is a great pastor who can preach 'hypergrace' beautifully and hypocritically?
So, if you ask, Does Joseph Prince preach confession of sins and repentance? You know the answer because he does not believe in confession of sin to God according to *1 John 1:9* or confession of sin to men according to *Jas 5 :16.* He preaches only immediate response to give forgiveness by God or men. How do I know that? Watch this ruclips.net/video/3dxG4CfP71o/видео.html So this is the gospel that he is preaching - forgiveness is instantaneous, unconditional, and without repentance or confession of sins ! He says, You makes yourself God if you disallow or refuse to give instantaneous forgiveness; but actually he is the one who *makes himself God* instead, because God has said it very clearly in 1 John 1:9 and Jas 5 :16, that there must be confession of sins and showing of repentance before there is forgiveness. However, he is now preaching and lying without shame that God will just forgive anyone any sin instantaneously (especially sexual sins). Please, Joseph Prince, just ask your wife one question, "Will you forgive me instantaneously if I slept with another woman?" She will give you one big slap! When you feel the pain, you will realize that *you are not God*
A pastor confessing his sexual sins during sermon is inappropriate. Moreover it’s a mega church. What was he trying to proof ? Probably trying to boast he is charming and lots of women were attracted to him.
The way the sermon is preached showed irresponsibility and irreverence towards God’s holy scriptures. The correct attitude should be a reverential one. God’s sacred scriptures should not be trifled with!!
@12345okok That's right. Look at his smiley face as he said God turned it around. Without true repentance how can God turned it around ? He can fool everyone in the audience but he cannot fool God. His face looked like someone who just strike TOTO first prize. Cannot believe that there are so many lawless clowns in this church with full blown carnality acting as the mouthpiece of God. Jesus is coming back for His bride without spot and wrinkle. All these "loose cannons" preachers will be left behind for sure. With such "moral excellence" in this leadership, how can they be the salt and light to a perishing world ?
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David Pawson wrote, " The majority of Jesus' warnings about hell were given to born-again believers! Yet I meet many believers who have no fear of hell because they assume that it can never happen to those who call themselves Christians."
" The apostle Paul reminds born-again believers that all will appear before the judgement seat of Christ. We are justified by faith, but judged by works."
" Most people think of his (God's) faithfulness as keeping on doing good things for us, but his faithfulness is seen in punishing as much as in pardoning."
So what kind of grace is JP preaching? Its his own feel-good grace crafted to suck people into his fold to serve his egocentric agenda
That's right. His grace teaching is like the chinese rojak and the indian rojak mixed together.
He has removed all God’s do’s and don’ts in the bible. Now that we have been made righteous by receiving the gift of Christ’s righteousness, the next step is surely to start living a righteous life empowered by the Holy Spirit. How does his members know how to live a righteous life when he does not teach them at all God’s will and instructions.
Why was Lawrence smiling when telling us he had sexual sins in the past and yet tell us at the same time he got no time to share? Did he really repented? What does he mean God help him to turn around? Did he committed sexual sins after being a pastor? If yes, was he councelled by the senior pastor and church elders? Why is he still allowed to preached? Should he has confessed to the church? We are not to judge on his sins but how the church could have handed to this issue. They need to be accountable to the church members.
obviously he is not remorse of his past
A classic example of taking a single verse out of context. If you read the chapter the words "don't you know" is Paul is actually rebuking the believers for visiting prostitutes and not encouraging them. He is twisting the scriptures and becoming more brazen and careless
Pastors committed sexual sin should be sacked..
Half truth are lies that leads to hell. God want quality believers not quantity of fake believers.
Confession of sin in *1 John 1:9* is not to confess before men; but to God because it is supposed to show our humility and sincerity to God that we want to repent. Confession of sin to men is also possible in *Jas 5 :16* to show humility and sincerity for our apology to those we have wronged too.
However, confession of sin in the public to show boasting of grace that we are forgiven of all kinds of sins including sexual sins is never taught in the Bible. Of course, if a pastor or sinner still wants to share about his testimony of how terrible he was when he was a thief, conman, adulterer, fornicator, cheater, liar, boaster, or even a murderer, he has to do it appropriately and humbly to show people that he has been broken, properly dealt with, and paid dearly in repentance.
Please think, What if a pastor stood on the pulpit and boasted:
1. about the grace that he has been forgiven for all his past, present, and future sins after he has slept with different women of his congregation, and
2. about how grace is greater than all his sins and that grace has helped him to enjoy life so much so that he makes many people jealous of him (especially his critics and those who were abused by him)?
Will that really help his congregation to understand the power of grace? Probably, he really believe that; however, he should really examine and ask himself if he has truly repented from his sins, or he has only regretted about his sins and would just want to show that he is a great pastor who can preach 'hypergrace' beautifully and hypocritically?
So, if you ask, Does Joseph Prince preach confession of sins and repentance? You know the answer because he does not believe in confession of sin to God according to *1 John 1:9* or confession of sin to men according to *Jas 5 :16.* He preaches only immediate response to give forgiveness by God or men. How do I know that? Watch this ruclips.net/video/3dxG4CfP71o/видео.html So this is the gospel that he is preaching - forgiveness is instantaneous, unconditional, and without repentance or confession of sins ! He says, You makes yourself God if you disallow or refuse to give instantaneous forgiveness; but actually he is the one who *makes himself God* instead, because God has said it very clearly in 1 John 1:9 and Jas 5 :16, that there must be confession of sins and showing of repentance before there is forgiveness. However, he is now preaching and lying without shame that God will just forgive anyone any sin instantaneously (especially sexual sins). Please, Joseph Prince, just ask your wife one question, "Will you forgive me instantaneously if I slept with another woman?" She will give you one big slap! When you feel the pain, you will realize that *you are not God*
A pastor confessing his sexual sins during sermon is inappropriate. Moreover it’s a mega church. What was he trying to proof ? Probably trying to boast he is charming and lots of women were attracted to him.
The way the sermon is preached showed irresponsibility and irreverence towards God’s holy scriptures. The correct attitude should be a reverential one. God’s sacred scriptures should not be trifled with!!
@12345okok
That's right.
Look at his smiley face as he said God turned it around. Without true repentance how can God turned it around ?
He can fool everyone in the audience but he cannot fool God.
His face looked like someone who just strike TOTO first prize.
Cannot believe that there are so many lawless clowns in this church with full blown carnality acting as the mouthpiece of God.
Jesus is coming back for His bride without spot and wrinkle. All these "loose cannons" preachers will be left behind for sure.
With such "moral excellence" in this leadership, how can they be the salt and light to a perishing world ?