Fleet History - BEA/British Airways Hawker Siddeley Trident (1964-85)
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2016
- Welcome to my fleet histories series. In it I review year-by-year aircraft fleets of an airline.
In this one I review British European Airways's (and its successor British Airways's) Hawker Siddeley HS.121 Trident history from 1964 to 1985.
This series is inspired by Elmauriplatense. You can check out his channel here: / elmauriplatense
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The plane I will always love and remember because it use to take us from London HR to see family in Ireland during the summer holidays early 70`s. I love this plane.
Flew on trident 3B from Heathrow to Aldergrove. A highlight for me in my personal air travel history
Was it louder than a 727?
I am an ex RAF aircraft engineer and worked on the mighty queen of the skies, the VC10 whilst in service. I always say that rear engine aircraft are superior and quieter. I am truly gutted that I NEVER got to fly in a Trident. I worked at LHR for over 20 years after I left service, seeing so many aircraft come and go. I wish they could have kept the complete one airworthy that we had a Heathrow for many years. Trident was a world leader - but (sadly like many British aircraft projects) due to design errors or safety scares with the Comet we lost the lead! oeing STOLE our idea Hawkers should have PATENTED the rear 3 engine design! We studied the aircraft during my forces apprenticeship - a true work of art. My late father also worked at Heathrow and sadly he remembered the day that G-ARPI came down in Staines - very sad but no fault of the aircraft.
Yes, Boeing nicked it after being invited over to Hatfield, that's not a nice thong to do. VC-10 a beautiful plane, there is one near my home in Duxford. I went onboard not so long ago, its as it was when it left service, beautiful.
My first flight when I was 7 years old, on this plane 1971 to Rimini, Italy. Love the Trident!
My Father worked for BEA then BA and i remember the Tridents as a young child flying to Cyprus Via Athens before the Turkish invasion we stayed in where the UN zone is and flew to and from Nicosia Airport even flew on one of the Cyprus Airways tridents the one sitting alone at the old airport. Flew to Alicante on them plus even when very small flew BEA Comets to Malta via Naples three times Flew Vanguards and Viscounts Jersey, Amsterdam, But the Trident was always my favourite plane then.
The Trident never operated commercially in the Landor livery a 2 and 3 were painted after they had been withdrawn from service whilst in use for Engineer training.
IRRC BEA/Ba Lost 4 Tridents in service: G-ARPT was damaged beyond repair in the Ambassador accident at Heathrow in 1968.G-ARPI was lost in the Accident at Staines in 72 and G-AWZT was involved in a collision over Zagreb in 1976.G-ARPS suffered a cabin fire whilst parked and was subsequently Scrapped.
I knew, but I said about the livery as G-AWZK was still in service when the new livery was rolled out.
The gleaming Trident, G-AVFG, looks fantastic in the Landor Scheme. What a shame they never operated in this livery, even if just for a short period.
Very nice video and great job getting all liveries!
I have a Trident model up on You tube. 1969 scheme
The DC-9 10 and 20 series could carry more people with a bit more range than the early Tridents. The 727-100 carried about the same number or slightly more than the early Tridents but could go much further. Although the Trident was much faster than either the DC-9 or the 727. But to the airlines speed was only cool, not a big factor in making money. They could get more revenue from slower planes that could carry more passengers and go further.
As far as I know the Trident had, like the Vickers Valiant V-bomber, water injection to the engines, and on some occasion ground crew filled kerosene fuel in the water reservoir, resulting in the engines running too hot on takeoff and disintegrated
You're right, Pascal. In Germany exactly this ended in a catastrophe in 1970 or 1971. The plane of the "PAN AIR" had to make an emergency landing on the motorway after taking off from EDDH /Hamburg Fuhlsbüttel. However this was to my knowledge a BAC-111.
It's so sad what happened to bea trident on flight 548.
Yep :(
Trainspotting Finland it was very tragic , it comes down to the lesson of employers looking after there staff and saving lives
Yes, and Trident Three, G-AWZT over Zagreb in 1976.
Thanks.
As far as I know it actually was a 3 1/2 engine aeroplane, because the APU could be used to produce some thrust on take-off
It was actually a small booster for the Trident 3, there was no boosted on the other variants.
Plus it was not an APU. It was a separate small engine from the APU.
@@mikemortensen4973 It was a completely separate Boost engine - a RR RB162
B E A utiful!
The first BEA livery on the Trident I looks the best IMO.
The Speedjack livery is best for me :).
@@Ibirdball same
169 Trident flights for me most of them spent in seat 25F by the window and engine of a Trident 3..79-85
117 produced vs 1,832 for the 727, The Brits too often tailored an aircraft to the needs of a single operator, which kept sales down. As well the industry needed to gain permission of the political apparatus in order to build a new aircraft. Contrary to the "conspiracy crowd" Boeing did not copy the Trident, they share many design features which was brought on by the thrust options of available engines dictating a three engine aircraft. At the time the best option in placing 3 engines was in the rear, quieter, removed from debris damage. This further dictated a T-tail. Hawker-Sydney met with Boeing to propose a joint licensing-assembly agreement. Boeing was too far along as well H-S was building the Trident to BEA desires with government dictates. Boeing built for the market. Bristol received an order for 25 Bristol Britannia aircraft from Howard Hughes for TtWA. Later, after much publicity, Bristol quietly told Hughes that they could not handle an order that large. The Whispering Giant was a fine four spinner transport coming at a time when the world noted jets. BOAC wanted nothing to do with DH Comet 4's, nor did they want the best Prop aircraft made to date, they coveted jets, 707 jets, but not jets named Comet.
That is another flaw in the British aviation industry which had been consolidated into two groups, owned or controlled by the government as was BOAC and BEA. The government stopped builders from building new aircraft, they stopped carriers from buying aircraft they were desperate for. That's no way to run a railroad
I know. It really annoys me that on several occasions British aviation designs are about to revolutionise the world, then the companies sell it out to the Americans. The Trident, Comet and Britannia all could've gained huge orders but were too closely tailored for BOAC or BEA.
Even if you DO NOT BELIEVE THAT, we all know it all over the world -for many years now the government has ruined the fine and unrivaled BRITISH industry of contributing to EXACT aircraft today everything is ugly and unsystematic disposable airplanes that if you save fuel but without class garbo and lineage
Another expert !
@@Ibirdball Sadly the B-707 (First flight December 20, 1957), was quieter and half as fast again as the Britannia (First flight 16 August 1952) those Britannia that were delivered to BOAC went pretty fast to charter work many with Iceland-air, with those crossing the Atlantic stopping to refuel in Newfoundland which the 707 didn't need to do. most passengers wouldn't give it a second look if there was a choice. Insofar as BOAC wanted to stay in the transatlantic game they had to dump the Britannia and go 707 fast, The VC10s' First flight was: 29 June 1962 so was not a contender at those dates. as ever BOAC felt forced to take the VC10 which passengers loved, It was a bit more expensive to run; but always enjoyed better payloads and profitability. BOAC used it West-about out of LHR, using B-707 equip East-about (on less prestigious routings).. best wishes - John
1:01 there's BEA 548. Captain Stanley Key was angry. And he had heart attack before the flight. Rip those 118 people who died.
That was G-APRI not G-AWZD
@@dianabowman7042 I meant that it was in 1972
1:05 they still operated the comet in 1972!!!
BowserJr Playz ..i went on a school skiing trip when i was 14 years old, we flew on Bae111 from Luton with RyanAir, but they was also still operating the Dh Comet.. this was in 1979!!
@@MrStr8den I thought ryanair started in 1985
@@buddee20 ..thankyou, you are probably right - let me correct myself, it was DanAir we flew with circa 1979, not RyanAir.. sorry!! Edit: and yes, DanAir did fly Comets in 1979!
there was one trident crash in 1972 BEA flight 548
+Ryan Pun Yes, but I only include crashes which massively affect the industry/airline - like AF4590 with Concorde. BEA 548 didn't mean the grouding of all Hawker Siddeley Tridents.
Ibirdball and you have nice vids
Thank you :)
Was there not a mid air collision involving a Trident near Zagreb in 1976?
Yes.
I preferred the AS57 of BEA. We flew from Libya to Malta and then to Rome where we changed to PAA DC7c for Istanbul.
Cool!
What's the music?
Barbarian by Pierlo.
Sadly the B-707 (First flight December 20, 1957), was quieter and half as fast again as the Britannia (First flight 16 August 1952) those Britannia that were delivered to BOAC went pretty fast to charter work many with Iceland-air, with those crossing the Atlantic stopping to refuel in Newfoundland which the 707 didn't need to do. most passengers wouldn't give it a second look if there was a choice. Insofar as BOAC wanted to stay in the transatlantic game they had to dump the Britannia and go 707 fast, The VC10s' First flight was: 29 June 1962 so was not a contender at those dates. as ever BOAC felt forced to take the VC10 which passengers loved, It was a bit more expensive to run; but always enjoyed better payloads and profitability. BOAC used it West-about out of LHR, using B-707 equip East-about (on less prestigious routings).. best wishes - John
Трайдент 121 название в переводе с английского означает " Трезубец " , по силовой схеме двигателей напоминает трезубец .
Just a side story. Brits sold less than a dozen of these tridents to the Communist China in the late 60s and early 70s, which really was the first ever modern commercial jet in China apart from those Soviet made flying coffins. However despite its brilliant service record aboard, the Chinese still managed to crash several of the fleet, including one carrying Marshall Lin Biao while the man was trying to flee to the Soviet Union after a failed coup d'tat attempt, but only managed as far as Mongolia and shot down by a SAM of unknown source.
Soviet made plane like Tu 154M and Yak 42 were more advance and reliable than trident and BC-111
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Nice tune what is it ?
Barbarian by Pierlo
Ibirdball thankyou so much
The 1971 photo looks like from 2017 cuz its the awesome graphic like that
It doesn't to me...
Known by pilots as 'the gripper' because of its love of the ground.Apart from its speed , its main claim to fame was its ability to descend at 12000 feet per minute.Uncommercial and over engineered due to the lack of confidence of the manufacturer on the world airliner stage who tailored it to the requirements of BEA.
Don't forget it's zero visibility landings.
Flew on trident Madrid-London
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How aren't you famous
Cuz the Internet hates planes and Air Tycoon 4, I would guess...
michael I will be online later im just going to Manchester airport
I think the British ruined their aircraft industry by the lengthy process of tailor-made specifications. The Trident was simply too small, although it did incorporate revolutionary features like a stickshaker and a flight data recorder, although no cockpit voice recorder was fitted (which made a thorough investigation of a later accident impossible)
It was part of a steady decline from government intervention, just look at the TSR-2 and VC7 - world-beating planes cancelled by the government because they intervened. They prevented these companies from getting a revenue stream coming in then wonder why the industry collapses after they try their last-ditch aircraft (see the BAC 3-11).
Don't forget the world beating cat 3b blind landing system and the number of years in service ,a good all round aircraft , I should know it was my bread and butter for many years.
Chairman Mao had three of them. Bought '68.
I like the 727 more
Great pics. Awful music (if you can call it that)!