See how Muslims impose later Shariah principles into Qur'anic translations (#06)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- We now move into the 11th - 14th mistakes which Muslim translators have made when translating the Qur'an into English.
These mistakes are all created by the translators who to create or re-define Arabic words in the Qur'an which are already in the Islamic Traditions, but now need to be found in the Qur'an to give those traditions credibility.
Thus, they are all intentional, yet not linguistically appropriate, and even at times deceptive.
11) Surah 6:106 - "Follow what has been 'revealed' to you [Muhammad} from your Lord". The word in question is "Wahy", which in this verse is translated as "revealed", or "what is revealed", assuming that Muhammad receives revelation from Allah.
But that is not correct, since the word 'revealed' in Arabic already exists...it is "Kashafa", which looks nothing like 'Wahy'.
In Surah 19:11, the word "wahy' exists as well, and here the translator translates it as "signs", which is the correct meaning.
In Surah 6:112, the word "wahy' is found again, and here the translator translates it as "whispering", or "inspiring". He dare not translate it as revelation, because it is referring to Jinn, and how can they be given revelation.
Thus, while 'wahy' means 'hints, or cues, or signs, or even 'whispering', it does not mean 'revealed', but had to be used by the translators to give Muhammad more authority as the one to whom the Qur'an was revealed.
12) Surah 2:168 - "O mankind, eat of that which is 'lawful'..." The word is "Hallal", but nowhere in the Qur'an is there a term for "Lawful".
In Surah 20:27 this word simply means "remove" or "untie", or "to make free", so that mankind can eat freely.
The Muslim translators needed this word to mean Lawful, to help them with their Shariah indictments which are in the traditions (SIN), and so they simply mistranslated Hallal to support that need.
13) Surah 11:91 - "We would certainly have 'stoned' you..." The word is "rajam" which here is used in later Shariah law to support the stoning of adulterers.
In Surah 15:34 the word 'rajeem' refers to being cursed, or expelled, which is the true meaning for this word.
So the earlier verse only refers to being expelled from the clan, not stoned, but the translators needed a Qur'anic reference point for stoning to give credibility to the practice which was introduced later on in the Standard Islamic Narratives.
14) Surah 3:115 - "They will never be 'denied' the reward for any good deed they have done". The word is "kaffar" which in this context refers to denied.
In Surah 4:31 the word 'Kaffar' is translated as "absolve", or "remove" as in the context of removing or absolving one's lesser sins.
In Surah 2:152 the word Kaffar is translated as "ungrateful" or "deny me".
Yet, in Surah 3:91 it is translated as "those who disbelieve", and is synonymous with those who are unbelievers, which has become the popular term for non-Muslims today.
But linguistically this word doesn't mean that at all, but means "absolved, or remove, or ungrateful, or deny', which can all pertain to Muslims as well.
So, it seems that the word "Wahy" does not mean 'revelation' for Muhammad, but really means 'hints, or cues or signs.
The word "Halal" doesn't mean 'unlawful' at all, but really means 'make loose, or make free'.
The word "Rajam" doesn't mean 'stoning at all, but really means expelled, or cursed.
The word "Kaffar" doesn't mean 'infidel' at all, but simply means 'absolved, or remove'.
In all four cases the translators were looking for words to introduce these ideas from the Standard Islamic Narrative into the Qur'an, and so mistranslated them all in order to fit their agenda. But linguistically, once you compare the same word in other places in the Qur'an we find quickly that not only is what they have done incorrect, but it is dishonest.
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When talking to an abdul:
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Is hafs quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is warsh quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is doori quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Are all qurans around the world same?
A. Yes
Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants?
A. Yes
Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter?
A. Yes
Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"?
A. They are different accents
Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite?
A. 7
Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy?
A. 6
Q. How many ahrufs today?
A. 7
Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite?
A. None
Q. How many qiraats today?
A. 10, 15, 20, 50
Q. Is Bible preserved?
A. No
Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible?
A. Yes
Q. Did muhamad marry a child?
A. No
Q. How old was aisha?
A. 6
@@Nethanyu_PBUH_SAW superb 👌 👌
2+2=5 or 3 or whatever else is necessary to preserve the "perfect" preservation of the Quaran.
Wait just a minute here! I've always thought that I was a Kafir. And proud of it! Now you're saying I'm not?😢
Maybe it's your pride that disqualifies you! If you'd just cover it up more, you'd get the true Kafir title.
Kafir is a term to describe Muslims that _cover the truth._ That word has nothing to do with those whom aren't Muslims.
Excellent! Islam is shariah, and shariah is at best only loosely based upon the vague, incoherent Qur'an. Cracks me up when critics point out something nasty in Islam, and Muslims immediately yelp - "Show me in in the Qur'an where it says that!" They think this pathetic little dodge is actually clever.
Can't wait for the translation to be published. As you say, this is so damaging.
Wow! Thanks for sharing your research, Murad and Dr. Jay Smith! ❤️
God bless you Jay and please be safe!
God bless you brethren immensely. I am curious @ St Murad how you would translate the verse sura 42:13 as does the word Shura refer to the Sharia which is a collaborative consultation..Allah hu alim😅
Aparently Muhammed had a Revelation about Quantum Physics, Words mean and dont mean contradictory Things at the same Time, Schrödingers Cat wont walk over it and the perfect Preservation lasted about one Planck-Time.
The trinity is three gods.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Nope, you just don't understand the Trinity.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Nice one! wow!
a classic deflection absolutely 180° off topic. laughable
@@martinjackman2943
What’s the deflection?
This video is a deflection. Inventing criteria that don’t exist in the academic field of linguistic.
This is only because you have no theological arguments.
A child can refute Christianity theologically.
@@AlonzoHarris235 No it's addressing the proposition HE brought up ... what can possibly deflect from?
Never mind 7th century Arabic... get a standard English dictionary and USE it...
You may have heard the following argument from Muslims: “The Quran is written in the Arabic language - a language that is so rich, so eloquent, and so luxurious. It can only be understood by Muslims. No non-Muslim, not even if the Arabic language is his native tongue, can understand the Quran written in the Arabic language.”
You do know that Murad is not only a Muslim but a native Arab speaker, and understands the grammar intimately. But if you watch the video, you will see that he is not trying to say that he knows Arabic better than other Arabic speakers, he is simply comparing the same word in other verses in the Qur'an and showing that in every case the translators are not only being inconsistent, but they are purposely mis-translating those words because of their agenda which they are trying to impose onto the translation.
Arabic language is a comedy.. Arab language was rich.. Lol even today more than the 70% Muslims don't know Arabic language 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@pfanderfilmsHelpful analysis in these examples.
@@passion4nation
Scholar Marijn van putten:
But in every way that it's different, the pre-Islamic poetry is significantly more complex and difficult to compose. The poetry has very strict rhyme and metre requirements which are simply absent in the Quranic style.
And of course ex-muslims loose their language skills together with their faith, obviously, misteiously, somehow.
Sounds to me it means whatever you say it means
If two people gave two different accounts of the same thing contradicting each other, then at least one of them is wrong or inaccurate.
1. There are christians who claim Jesus is God.
2. There are christians who claim Jesus is son of God and not God.
3. There are christians who claim Jesus is both God and son of God.
4. There are christians who believe Jesus is a man (not God, not son of God)
Which is accurate?
These are all major contradictions in the religion. Different factions occured since after the time of Jesus.
The Quran is the latest Revelation from God and is the Criterion over the current bible(s).
It consists of message for mankind including to Jews, Christians and polytheists.
Message for mankind include warning mankind of their errors.
How old were the “Black Stones” when Allah made them his partners on earth to forgive Muslims sins?
The earlier idols (false deities) were statues erected of pious people of previous generations.
These people were later wrongly prayed to and taken as deities.
These type of misguided beliefs of taking humans as deities or gods exist in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present.
A human taking another human as a deity or God is falsehood.
It makes absolutely no sense for a human to pray to (worship) another human.
Deity Incarnation where a human is believed to be a deity or God coming down in this world as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions, past and present.
Claiming a human is God manifest as a human is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions.
Claiming a spirit in a human is a deity or God is among the misguided claims in pagan and polytheist religions.
Claiming God having sons or daughters is among the misguides claims in pagan and polytheists religions.
All that I mentioned about idolatry, pagan and polytheist religions you can look it up online including from their own sources.
The misguided belief of taking Jesus as a deity or God is against what Jesus himself believe and taught. It is against what all the guided prophets that include Noah, Abraham and Moses believed and taught. It is against the foremost of the religion which is the first and foremost commandment.
Abraham did not pray to Jesus which is a man's name.
Abraham did not pray to three persons.
God is not a human
God created humans
As great a human Jesus is,
he still is human.
In the gospels, it is mentioned that Jesus was sent.
Jesus was a human messenger of God among many human messengers of God that were sent throughout history.
The human messengers of God were chosen from humans and were sent to convey message to other humans.
The one God who sent Jesus is the same one God who sent Noah is the same one God who sent Abraham is the same one God who sent Moses.
Jesus did not send Jesus.
The one God sent Jesus.
The one God is not Jesus.
The one God is the most High and the one who sends, not someone who is sent.
Oooh look! The 2nd best deflector!
@@aaronharun1394H Good guess..no EVIDENCE. pitiful
One thing I'm missing in the explanation here is, the actual word for "stoning".
As it is, some may say, that this word has dual meaning, and as we know, quite a few words have. One word with two, even three separate meanings.
To avoid such excuses, the actual word STONING should be introduce here for comparison.
The one thing Muhammad got right, was that the Satanic Verses were from Satan, not Gabriel.
What he got wrong was, he didn't realize they were all Satanic Verses!
Murad may well be doing God's work, helping to free the koran from islam.
Free the koran from SIN. That's an impossible task
So, it was Satan whispering to Mohammed 😂
Sad to say that Gnostic Serpent, known for whispering supposedly “secret knowledge” to Eve, probably saw a golden opportunity to whisper to a very confused Mohammed.
Maybe it’s time for people to stop listening to that serpent, indeed.
I see the Islamic transmitters translated the Quran to English with the same accuracy as when they originally added diacriticals.
I loved reading your translation.
Thank you for that deep analysis
Jazakallah to The Saint, Mahshallah your knowledge of Arabic is awesome.
Great work murad
I had read that halalah ment allowable in coptic language.Yet in arabic it ment ,to analyse.
Its in book 👉 Ghareeb al-Quran fi Shi'r al-Arab by Abdullah ibn Abaas.
It's so damaging to Muslims.
I thought this is what Happened SIN inserted Shariah Law into the quran ... Why Would Uthman Burn Original Manuscripts ??? I'll bet it was more like "Love One Another" not Hate one another !!!
Yes It could be it.
I'm inclined to believe it's just lectionaries of various Christian sects bundled up and attributed to a safely deceased madman.
Abdul Alonzo Harris: "show me one muslim scholar who says there is more than one quran"
muslim scholar hythem sidky: "saying there is only 1 quran falls under the umbrella of lying to children"
Abdul Alonzo Harris: "show me 2 muslim scholars who say there is more than one quran"
🤣🤣🤣
Will the succeeding question change to give me 1 scholar, in different countries, in different continents and different timeline? 😊
What do you expect from a guy who uses the name of a fictional corrupt cop ? He is possibly a manchild.
Please make a second video about these issues, with the focus on Arabic speakers!
I wonder, why do not people whos native language is Arabic see these distortions? Is it, because Arabic people do not read the Quran translations?
The Qur'an was written 1400 years ago. The time distance between then and modern Arabic is bigger than the time difference between Old English and Modern English. How well do you read Old English? Words change their meanings over time. "Silly' used to mean "happy" in English.
Native speakers of Arabic rarely understand Classical Arabic. Just as native modern speakers of English rarely understand Middle English.
Arabic speaking Muslims would see no reason to read the Quran translations because the Quran is only considered to be the Quran if it's in Arabic. Therefore, if no Quran translation is the Quran, then why read it.
Well done Murad, but how we supposedly translate "quran 67: 5" exactly??
Are these English translations based on some Muslim commentaries? Or has the translators made these conclusions by themselves?
Uthman saying I'll burn the word of God and I'll decide just what should be in the Book.
I want this Qur'an! Hahahahahaha 😂
Murad: can u cover how Muslims are to impose sharia law once the majority according to their books?
Murad book or ebook
Invaluable stuff again, Saint Murad!
@17:20 Does it not make more sense that the Kafr is someone who covers the Bible with the Talmud, church dogma, or Paul's writings?
Now I'm going to have to change my RUclips name! Rats!
Is there translations from Classical Arabic Koran to modern Arabic like Egyptian Arabic? Or does Arab speaking Muslims only read the Koran in Classical Arabic?
There may be such translations, but these are not considered "true" Qur'ans. All Muslims are supposed to read the Qur'an only in Classical Arabic, which very few of them understand.
@@mysotiras21 I guess that is even worse than a crappy translation to another language.
Good work again
Thanks !
Regarding Halal meaning loose ... could this be in the same meaning as in the bible bind and loose - like Jesus says to Peter : whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven
not in every context but in some of them ...
@13 s ܪܓ݂ܰܡ a رَجَمَ h רָגַם - none of these means expel. at best get expelled by pelting with stones. so the basic meaning is to throw stones (with whatever intention).
Hi.The writing u put up near rajem, it looks as hebrew.
Are u using a Y for a J ?
The is no J in hebrew
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 there is no ع in english either. so how do you write عيسى ("3iysa") as Jesus ? (only silly and wrong answers please). Seriously, look up what translitteration is.
@@Peter-xf9jy
No Ain in English. I would suggested that the Ain without a throat Arabic sound is an E. Emran is the same with an Ain.
Farsi language is a chief player in understand the quran.A claim by islamic scholars is that.Farsi is having mostly the same letters as Arabic ,yet not having Ain with a throat pronunciation. Same with Urdu,in not having a throat sound producing.
@@Peter-xf9jy
Off topic .
If you recite or read quran chapter 36 verse 41, you will recite and learn some English vocabulary words,which are the below.
Fill Full Kill Mash 👈 you learn English words written in Arabic 🤔.
@@Peter-xf9jy
Esa,in that Arabic root,is ESY. If no presidence to dots is given,
then it's ESHY 👈 that seems as a root for Yeshua,if read from right to left.
That E is as a throat sounding A, yet is a Ain. Ain zabar A.
In fact the term "disbeliever" does not exist as such in the Quran (obviously since the Quran is in Arabic :). The term used in the Quran is "kafir" كَافِرٌ (plural "kouffar" كُفَّار), and this term means "the one who covers" (root k-f-r: ك-ف-ر) implying the one who hides the truth while he knows it, and it is a constant reproach of Islam towards the "people of the book" (i.e. Jews and Christians) who know the truth but deny it in particular by falsifying the texts (Torah, Bible and Gospels), and therefore in addition to being unbelievers they are hypocrites and "deniers"
You don’t dictate what a word means. Meanings are used by living communities.
I can make the same fallacy for many English words. I can insist what the etymological meaning is. I can do that for any English word. It will contradict all your used meanings.
You guys don’t know linguistics.
You invent rules. You insist these made up rules must be applied.🥴
But Murad's research shows that "kafir" actually means "absolved/removed".
@@mysotiras21 not at all, he says kufr means to cover
How can Allah be described in those very same terms ? The SIN superimposition reveals more about early Muslims than about early Islam. They clearly despised and looked down upon farming communities.
@@jeangatti9384 , let me cite the summary in the description box, since apparently you did NOT bother to watch this video:
"The word "Kaffar" doesn't mean 'infidel' at all, but simply means 'absolved, or remove'."
These Christians believe in three gods.
repetition of failed deflection tactic. FAIL2
OF TOPIC BS that has been refuted many times. Deal with the actual topic of the video, or don't bother to post. You are a one-trick pony. Alonzo. Very tiresome.
31+ Korans ,2 + Meccas ,6+ MHMDs , all with clear physical irrefutable proofs . Keep beating that old drum . You are a real inspiration.😊
So ... are you OK with Surah An Najm (53) where attempts to allegedly remove verses where Mohammed started worshiping the 3 daughters of Allah must have been a bodge job, half-done. As in Allah approves and praises Mohammed for seeing an angel being (he sees it twice) who tells him to consider Allat, Manat and Uzzah (the 3 daughters). He's not approving of Mohammed rejecting this as a fallen angel with a deceitful message, rather He's praising Mohammed. [Of course would be interesting to see Murad's translation, but it must have been the narrator having some iffy vision]. These verses should not be in the Quran, if it actually is in heaven, on tablets made by the single Creator, since He should not have 3 daughters.
@@collybever
You are waffling. Can you make a logical argument?
Satan is your saviour.
He made sure that your mangod died in your religion.
Murad is not educated.
In his first example he commits the fallacy of equivocation.
This proves that he doesn’t even know the basics of linguistics.
This guy pretends to be a linguist.🥴🤣
He is a Coptic Christian. He believes his God became a baby. He is traumatised. Muslims are logically destroying the incoherent Christian religion. He can’t theologically challenge Muslims.
He has to make these poor videos. He hopes he can turn people away from Islam with his cheap propaganda videos.🥴🤣
Neither are you ...but he does a better job of presenting a thesis .
Ad Hominem doesn't address the issue either. FAIL3
@@martinjackman2943 This abdul Alonzo Harris has no knowledge on the subject. Last time he was going around telling everyone a footnote is a hadith after watching uthman's videos. He has been stalking Jay Smith for over 5 years. The abdul believes in three qurans and that bismillah al-rahman al-rahim is three gods.
@@martinjackman2943
He commits the fallacy of equivocation.
I have debunked him with this fallacy.
He insists that a word must have the same meaning based on differing objects. 🥴🤣
Can you show me a scholarly linguistic source for his made up criteria?
If you can’t present one. I suggest you to keep quiet. You are clearly as uneducated as Murad.
@@martinjackman2943
I have refuted him.
It’s not an ad hominem.
I’m pointing out the fallacy. You have no answer.
Jay Smith sir, Can I have your e-mail please? I need to talk to you about Muhammad's historicity. Please sir 🙏 Take love ❤️