Thanks for this video. There's a lot of confusion out there on charging the Spectres. A couple people said the RAVPower would work but it's good to see it in action and also know that it's got good enough output to be really useful. Very helpful that you gave the model number too. I'll give it a shot and hope my results mirror yours!
hey thanks for the helpfull video, btw the reason why the HP does often charge when its of but not when its own is: Some customers were complaining that the display is flickereing from time to time when using not the original HP charger. Therefor HP disabled charging while on with 3rd party charges. Then they startet to enable it via BIOS updates for at least USB PD chargers which supports 20V
Really useful video. I think it could benefit from some editing to clarify your measurements & summarize your testing. It's hard to keep all the numbers in your head as you're watching the video. A simple excel etc. chart that shows all of the devices & measurements, and a minute or two of "___, ___, and ___ will work to charge your device while you're using it. ___, ___, and ___ may slowly charge it while the device is off. ___ was the better charger, and ___ was the better battery pack" Am I right to conclude that: The RavPower 26800mAh iSmart 2.0 did the best job out of the external battery packs ~10 watts using USB A to C cable ~30-38 watts with laptop on or off using USB C cable Anker PowerCore+ 26800mAh ~6-10 watts using USB A to C Is it @ 9:53 you're using USB C And only getting 6-10 watts? HP charger (in the spectre): 38 watts on, 44 watts off Apple charger (in the macbook): 78 watts on, 70 watts off Apple charger (in the spectre): 41 watts HP charger (in the macbook): 42 watts Anker charger (in the macbook): 14.3 watts
A very valid point! Will do this for future videos, as really regret not doing this for this video. Thanks for helping other viewers by posting the info too. @9:53 this is via USB-A as the Anker version doesn't have USB-C (it's the other version of the same capacity I'm waiting on) Anyway, thanks for posting this useful comment!
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO. I'm about to fly to Singapore from South Africa (18 hour total flight time), and I was shopping around for a PowerBank that can handle both my Macbook Pro and Nintendo Switch, while I'm on the plane. Your video just saved me a lot of confusion and grief... Thank you so much! I'm planning to get the Romoss Sense 6 (20000mAh). It's super affordable in my region. I'm willing to give up speed for more capacity at a lower price!
Hello Nthato. I also from SA...I am also looking for a powerbank to charge my laptop type-C(12V). I am curious...did the Romos Sense 6+ work for your needs?
@@thebeard9264 Hey man. Wow, it's been a LONG time since I got this. But short answer is yes, it did serve my needs. I used it to charge my MacBook Pro (with Touch Bar) and Nintendo Switch (Original release unit), but it wasn't that fast. I'm sure it will work the same on other USB-C laptops. By the way, if you are using the device while charging it with this power bank then you may not see the battery level increase, you may actually see it decrease over time. But you'll notice that the rate of battery level decrease is slower than if the power bank was not connected. So all this means that the rate at which the power bank is putting power into your device's battery is slightly lower than the amount of power your device is currently using at that time. So it kind of prolongs your battery life while you're using your device, instead of getting you to full battery - which is still a nett benefit IMO! I'd suggest you buy the power bank off Takealot or Makro, then open the packaging VERY carefully without damaging it. Test it with your devices for a few days, and return it for free if you're not happy with the performance. Hope that helps!
Would have been good if you had shown it really charging by showing the laptop screen, mine is not working with power bank and hard to find something in action
Think of lecture hall case , 6 wall outlets and 200 students , many in their 4th year with the inbuild laptop batteries that are shot... i found the jgotech was ok with hp kept 100 % home charges for as long as i was on line hours that day .... hours.... , surface pro's didnt accept charge for very long , await support to see if theres a fault or if this is known, they sell with surface adapter so it should work , 110w seems the strongest thats allowed on a plane.
I have been looking on Amazon, there is a 50,000mah power bank with USB-C but at £130 not sure. I have the Maxoak one which is fantastic for my Toshiba Z30 & iPad Pro 12.9 and powers my Dell 17 2 in 1. But need USB-C now for x360 and wondered if get away with a smaller unit or sell Maxoak, which is heavy but lasts, to get the new 50Kmah one.
Most helpful video I have found on this subject. I have a question, maybe you could help out. I'm buying the usb c Ravpower, and was wondering how it would do while. Charging from the HP laptops usb c charger. Would it negotiate voltage properly? Hope you can answer or even make a video!!
Hi Juan, just tested this out for you and can confirm the HP laptop USB-C charger does charge the RAVPower at full rate! I tested and got a power input of 19.3V at about 1.3 to a near fully charged power bank. That is pretty much full rate. The Apple ones work as expected too. Given the USB-C standard, most things would work doing this I'm guessing.
I don't think you are correct. I have tested this many times. You can either device to request the type (charge or discharge). My laptop power increased using this method, and my power bank power decreased.
@@techable7524 Hi, depends if you use a fully USB C type compliant wire, they are not all the same, the intelligent wires communicate between the devices and decide if to power or be powered.
I have a acer chromebook 15. I believe. My charger got damaged and I can't find a replacement for it. What is the charger that comes with this kind of computer. Please help.
Hello, i have an Hp laptop that can be charged using usb C, i am trying to charge the laptop using a 45w powerbank.. when i plug my powerbank the laptop is charging the powerbank instead of the opposite? how can i fix this and enable charging of the laptop from the powerbank
Hi there! thanks for the great tips and reviews! I currently own a HPX360EK not and found out input Voltage 20V DC is requires... wondering whether Anker power bank will compatible with my laptop. thank you Techable.
I just bought a powerbank with Power delivery with usb c output. The manual says that the usb-c port is a both output and input port (only one port). When i plug it into my laptop my power bank gets charged instead. I would like to charge my computer. Is it possible for anyone? For some reason the same powerbank can charge via the other usb-a output... The laptop says it is slower but it still charges. Thanks!
I have a new HP Spectre X2 and have tried every USB-C powerbank I can think of and nothing has worked. I've ended up with a RAVPower powerstation AC unit that I can jack my stock HP AC charger into. Nothing else seems to work. USB charging is enabled. I bought one of the 26800 banks but sent it back. What am I missing here?
Hmmm tricky! I've checked the specs for that and Power Delivery is enabled on the USB-C port. I know the HP Spectre x360 sometimes takes around 10 attempts to get it charging from the power bank. Maybe HP had it locked in the bios? A bios upgrade may help.
It's a known issue with HP. Here's an article about it: www.pcworld.com/article/3017182/hardware/usb-c-charging-universal-or-bust-we-plug-in-every-device-we-have-to-chase-the-dream.html You're the only person who seems to have beaten HP propitiatory set-up. I've got the most recent updates installed. Still nada.
I got that bank and gave it a try. I could not get it to work with the new HP Spectre X2. It wants charge the battery instead of the other way round. I restarted over 2 dozen times and it wouldn't work. I guess it's different from the Spectre x360. Too bad. I'd love to keep the battery. It's the best I've seen.
Hi, i have a HP Envy with 2 USB Type C ports. My phone has a USB Type C charging port and when i connect it to the laptop it doesn't fast charge. Why is this? is there anything i can do? Thanks
The question is how long would it take to charge a phone using the macbook\HP Envy itself? How much power does it deliver to the phone from the laptop's USB type c? No matter how much I google I can't get an answer. I know a laptop can RECEIVE up to 100 watts with type c\thunderbolt, but how much can it actually GIVE via that port on a laptop to a phone?
Good question. I'm not sure the USB-C ports on the laptop can delivery USB-PD but from what I see it delivers atleast 10w when using my phone connected. So not a bad charge really.
@@techable7524 if that's true it's kinda disappointing. I mean you can't plug into a laptop a usb c splitter which would allow to connect lots of power-hungry devices like many hard drives without external power. Or maybe you could, it depends. I'm glad though that it's still more powerful than the normal usb 3.0
@@TabalugaDragon Yeah just tested with my USB-C power meter and it's topped at 11w. It's not too bad though as I understand only 3.5" drives need additional power. Not too sure about M.2 drives / NVME.
Very useful mate, thanks. Only problem I find is that I don´t know how much power a 15" laptop can draw at any time, so if I try to use one of this powerbanks because my battery is about to die, I may or may not be able to keep using the laptop if it´s charging slower than it´s drawing power. Correct?
Yup, that is in fact correct! Depending on the size of the battery you'll only get 30W max charging from this battery pack per hour so I'd say it's best to keep it topped-up when getting near 40% charge (laptop) or something, or do something a little less power intensive.
That´s what I thought, thanks for the clarification. I guess it´s just a matter of using the powerbank ASAP, long before the main battery is about to die. I´m not sure, though, if that kind of slow battery (dis)charging can be detrimental to the laptop battery, since I wouldn´t want my non-replaceable battery to go bust by using this procedure. Do you happen to know if it´s OK to do that?
I actually know a great deal about battery tech - there is a lot of stuff protecting your battery (both laptop and battery pack) so don't worry about it. The main things that kill a battery are overcharging and letting them get too low in charge. To give your battery a long life (x 3) simply don't charge to full (90% is just about right) and never let it run down to 0%. If you're not going to use your laptop for a bit store at 80% charge and you should give it a long life. Your battery protection circuits in your laptop will prevent any damage to the battery. But keeping it around 80% is best. But also, replacing a battery in this day and age is pretty easy too.
Thanks again for the advice, mate. Not so sure about the "pretty easy" replacing of a battery though, in a time when an ever-growing number of laptops seem to be designed not to access them at all. And even if you can access them and you can actually change that battery without causing damage, there´s no telling if the manufacturer will ever sell you an internal battery X years down the road. More like they´re designed like that precisely to have the laptop replaced exclusively by the manufacturer at disproportionate prices. Still not as bad as modern cell-phones, but getting there pretty quickly... P.S. Message written from my Surface... ;)
I used a ravpower 60 w output and I noticed that my M1 MacBook dropped charge percent from 70 to 10% the next day. What could be the reason? It was also heated on the base of the laptop?
@@techable7524 No, it became clear. It was an update issue from Apple. The update came that night and then there hasn't been that issue again. The power bank is ok.
Most likely not too well, if it has a normal proprietary charging cable then that typically means it’s cuz it’s needed And usbc charging will likely still decrease the battery if you are using it, so really only possible to charge with usbc when the computer is off This is cuz windows laptops typically draw too much power and usbc is nice and convenient but don’t give enough wattage to charge normally, especially if trying to use the computer at the same time Only really Apple has gotten usbc charging down right with even the biggest and most powerful MacBook pros still being capable of usbc charging and while using it Like my 13 inch 2019 MacBook Pro I can use it while charging from a battery bank But I also have a dell 7370 13 inch windows laptop that does have one single usbc port and will technically charge from it but only when off cuz otherwise it still losses battery life I also have a 3rd laptop, being my gaming one, the Razer 15 which has a usbc port as well but definitely doesn’t charge at all with just a usbc cable The Razers charger needs to meet its massive 200watt requirement where as for example all MacBooks can charge through usbc with just a 60 watt usbc block and from many battery banks
Will most 💻 change to usb c charging? My current Dell laptop power brick is 45w I can guess normal laptop are around this area more or less. Usb c can handle 100w so will most 💻 change to usb c soon enough?
All usbc devices aren’t created equal, windows laptops typically draw too much power to charge over usbc properly Apples MacBooks are perfect for usbc charging Outside the smaller Razer 13 inch, which only has usbc charging like a MacBook and doesn’t even have another normal charging port, it’s pretty hard to find other laptops that can do as efficient usbc charging as a MacBook Even other windows laptops with very similar processor specs and lower resolution screens than MacBooks like the LG gram which is very similar in power to a MacBook still comes with a proprietary charging cable and isn’t meant for usbc charging
Sorry I only have the 13 inch version. Are you sure you've enabled 'USB Power' in the bios? You can enter the bios by pressing ESC + F10 at boot. I tried disabling this and noticed I couldn't charge the laptop via USB powerbank. Also double check you are powering the laptop correctly, the RAVPower does sometimes switch to charging mode instead of 'provide charge mode'. If the lights are flashing then the laptop maybe charging the powerbank!
I tried with both USB Power option on and off. In BIOS it says the option stands for the laptop ability to charge other devices while sleeping, so it should not influence the opposite direction. In fact, with both option on and off HP would still charge powerbank from TB3 port, so that is also not affected. Laptop is HP Spectre x360 15", 2017 edition. It won't charge from power bank in both cases. For TB3 port, it would start to charge laptop for minimal currency (19.5V at ~ 0.2A - measured using Pluggable usb-c volt meter) for 1-2 sec, but then stops and start charging power bank. Pressing button on power bank would get back to laptop charging for 1-2 secs and then everything repeats.
I too had a few problems with the HP Spectre and USB-C charging from a power bank. Sometimes they don't play well with each other. It does take a few times for it to 'catch' and you may have to press and hold the button on the powerbank (about 8 secs) for it to go the other way. It may take a few attempts but it does work and hold eventually. It's not perfect I know. Hope this helps.
Also having this same problem. My spectre x360 will always draw charge from the ravpower if the laptop is on, but if its in sleep/standby, it'll show that its charging for only 1-2 seconds then reverse itself and start charging the power bank instead. All the times ive tried to hold the button for 5 seconds just does the same thing...charges the laptop for 1-2 seconds then reverses. Did any of you figure out a solution or any new info about this?
If the laptop supports PD on the USB-C port then it should work just fine as they both conform to the USB-C PD standard. PD works in stages and both sides of the charging process communicate together to see what each can send and accept - they both start low and work up from there. Also, the laptop battery has a good charging and discharging circuit and will keep everything safe when it comes to charging and discharging. Slowly charging a battery is actually better for batteries but you can just let the laptop battery do its job.
I have a Wacom Mobilestudio Pro. According to the company it needs profile 5 which means 5V + 100W. I bought the Ravpower pack but sadly it does nothing. Any advice on charging or powerbanks I can use?
This is a bit late of a comment but I believe you mean 5 amps at 100W. If it was 5 volts that mean it'd have to run at 20 amps to achieve 100W of power. That much current on a DC power cable would be unsafe. For that particular device I don't think a power bank could provide the power you need. Best of luck (though I'm sure it's too late now)
Very interesting video. I want to buy a new laptop and I have a couple USB Type A power banks that I want to use to charge it with. I don't have a type C power bank. It just takes longer with a Type A power bank than with a Type C power bank. Now all I need is a Macbook pro 13 inch and a USB Type A to (micro) USB Type C cable. Thanks a lot.
Just make sure the laptop can take a charge from your powerbank before you buy either one :-) Go USB-C PD PowerBank if you can as think it's a better solution. Best of luck!
Can i charge my Macbook 13 pro with the Ravpower USB A powerbank ?? or is it to slow? Do i HAVE to buy a Powerbank with a USB C PD port in it? they cost alot more..
Thank you for the reply. What about with the laptop on, could i do low power usage like word and browsing the internet and charge at the same time or is it not enough power on the USB A?
hi, I have the hp spectre 15 inch laptop and my charger just broke, does it affects the laptop if I use a lower voltage charger? ( hp spectre 15" uses a 90W ) and I can't find the original charger anywhere, so my only solution is to buy a lower voltage ( 45W or 60W) or a powerbank battery. which one do you recommend. If you know about any store that sells the 90w spectre original charger please let me know. PD: very useful video
Hi Leonel, As long as it's a USB-C charger you should be able to use it! I mix and match USB-C chargers all the time. I sometimes charge my Macbook Pro 15, HP Spectre x360 and Google Pixel phone using the one charger, which is mostly my Pixel one (30w) and they charge it. Just depends on the power output really. My 30W charger will charge my MAcbook 3 times slower. All out the watts! USB-C charging is a standard, so you should be golden.
Is there a minimum power required to charge a dell xps 13 using usb type c ? ( Can i use iphone charger to charge it over 8 hours through the night ) ?
I have a question and a BIG problem .. I found a toshiba chromebook 2 laptop but I have NO CHARGER and I haven't purchased one from Amazon because I rather do one myself as a project lol ... it also hasn't been charged for 3 months or so It's a 19v charger it uses and I have bought different tip adapters to do it on my own but I always seem to get stuck and it STRESSES me out . Is there anyway you can help me by telling me the right equipment I need?. For it to charge I have all sorts of wires and usbs but still no luck
You COULD make something to do it, but please don't! You're going to be playing with voltages, currents and batteries that WILL CATCH FIRE if you do it wrong! Honestly, buy a certified charger for it!
Chromebooks are pretty low power. I used a Chromebook for school for a semester and I could even use my Qualcomm 3.0 car charger to top it off if I needed to. 19v isn't that specific though, you'd also need to tell us the amperage or wattage. Current fast charge standards for mobile phones are typically around 18w. That could be sufficient. If you have access to a USB C phone charger I'd honestly try that.
Thx it was actually helpful, I now understand quickly how volts and Amp. work, I ordererd an HP Spectre non x360 nor x2, and I was struggling to find a good power bank (either HP Power Pack or something else). Did you update the bios of the Spectre at 6.26 or above ?
I received my RAVPower yesterday and tested it, it works just fine on the 3.1 gen 2 connector not on the gen 1 one, the bios version is F.30, thx for your video, the RAVPower cost me 50€ while the HP would've cost me 130€. Awesome, keep up the good work!
Also purchased a RAVPower, outputs 30watts to my Dell inspiron 13", charges when laptop on and off. Laptop moans a little about not having 45watts but it is a really good solution.
Macbook Pro - (Capacity of Laptop Battery @ 87W) / (5 x 2.4 = 12W per hour) = 7.25 Hours while laptop off HP Spectre X360 13" (if it worked) - (Capacity of Laptop Battery @ 45W) / (5 x 2.4 = 12W per hour) = 3.7 Hours while laptop off
Thanks man. This video was really helpful. I'm looking to get a new laptop and want to take it out in the bush car camping. Need an easy method for charging. 3.7 hours in reasonable. Could charge it while I'm asleep. Why do you think the Spectre is fickle with power banks. I was testing some power banks last night with my tablet and it also had issues. Aside from the macbook, do you know of any laptops that pair well with the battery banks?
Hi Chris, You're very welcome. I've lost a lot of faith with the HP Spectre, there are a few things putting me off using this outside of the home. Battery seems to self discharge when completely off (around 10% per night) which is a huge issue for me. I'll be doing a video on it soon. I would not recommend the HP Spectre x360 to anyone at the moment. I'd love to test out more laptops with the powerbanks but they are hard to get my hands on to be honest. I'm a very small channel so no offers of a demo unit. I'm considering getting a 12" Macbook for travel or the 8th gen asus zenbook 3 deluxe but they are an expensive gamble without knowing for sure they are perfect for me. I know the Macbook works great but sometimes I need Windows for some things.
I broke my Samsung Ativbook last night...... The Spectre is officially off my list. I definitely want an 8th gen Intel. I wish there were more choices right now with those CPUs. I'm probably going to wait it out until Cyber Monday but I'm doing research now. I'm not into Apple. I got turned off back in the early 2000s. I don't like their customer service. I don't like MacOS. I don't like how controlling and restrictive their machines are. Repairs and parts are controlled. Also, don't like their prices. I'm a big fan of W10. I think it's the best version of Windows ever. I also like linux. I have a list of specs I need on a new machine but I haven't found anything that looks ideal yet. The Dell 13 XPS is on the list. I wish the Samsung had an 8th gen. Samsung is my favorite.
Well you certainly know what you want :) I'm very picky too when it comes to laptops. Keyboard , weight and battery being my main. I'm still searching, I probably always will be doing :)
I've put all the results in the following chart: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VH9olguY-hTnLn7Nxvzw56BBNb7QdaDc34hBcCdth9g/edit?usp=sharing It's more easy to follow
Hi, Found the RP-PB058 on Amazon UK but it says not compatible with HP Spectre but you show it does. Going to order at the price compared to the 50kmah one, can return if not.
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Very detailed information. Exactly what I was curious about. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for this video. There's a lot of confusion out there on charging the Spectres. A couple people said the RAVPower would work but it's good to see it in action and also know that it's got good enough output to be really useful. Very helpful that you gave the model number too. I'll give it a shot and hope my results mirror yours!
Thank you much for clearing up so much that other videos could not, in regard to the actual experiment.
hey thanks for the helpfull video,
btw the reason why the HP does often charge when its of but not when its own is:
Some customers were complaining that the display is flickereing from time to time when using not the original HP charger. Therefor HP disabled charging while on with 3rd party charges. Then they startet to enable it via BIOS updates for at least USB PD chargers which supports 20V
Really useful video. I think it could benefit from some editing to clarify your measurements & summarize your testing. It's hard to keep all the numbers in your head as you're watching the video.
A simple excel etc. chart that shows all of the devices & measurements, and a minute or two of "___, ___, and ___ will work to charge your device while you're using it. ___, ___, and ___ may slowly charge it while the device is off. ___ was the better charger, and ___ was the better battery pack"
Am I right to conclude that:
The RavPower 26800mAh iSmart 2.0 did the best job out of the external battery packs
~10 watts using USB A to C cable
~30-38 watts with laptop on or off using USB C cable
Anker PowerCore+ 26800mAh
~6-10 watts using USB A to C
Is it @ 9:53 you're using USB C And only getting 6-10 watts?
HP charger (in the spectre): 38 watts on, 44 watts off
Apple charger (in the macbook): 78 watts on, 70 watts off
Apple charger (in the spectre): 41 watts
HP charger (in the macbook): 42 watts
Anker charger (in the macbook): 14.3 watts
A very valid point! Will do this for future videos, as really regret not doing this for this video.
Thanks for helping other viewers by posting the info too.
@9:53 this is via USB-A as the Anker version doesn't have USB-C (it's the other version of the same capacity I'm waiting on)
Anyway, thanks for posting this useful comment!
Honey Force Wow.
done:
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Yes, the work put in and data gathered.
Very very useful video for me. Not only this video, I prefer all the videos of this channel. They are really very very useful for me 😄
Best video so far
Man, kill the music! It's very distracting!
Sorry :-D
@@techable7524 it's good man it adds to the video
@@Javvos It's too loud
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO.
I'm about to fly to Singapore from South Africa (18 hour total flight time), and I was shopping around for a PowerBank that can handle both my Macbook Pro and Nintendo Switch, while I'm on the plane. Your video just saved me a lot of confusion and grief... Thank you so much! I'm planning to get the Romoss Sense 6 (20000mAh). It's super affordable in my region. I'm willing to give up speed for more capacity at a lower price!
Really glad it helped you sir! I've not tested that battery before so hope it works out for you.
Hello Nthato. I also from SA...I am also looking for a powerbank to charge my laptop type-C(12V). I am curious...did the Romos Sense 6+ work for your needs?
@@thebeard9264 Hey man. Wow, it's been a LONG time since I got this. But short answer is yes, it did serve my needs. I used it to charge my MacBook Pro (with Touch Bar) and Nintendo Switch (Original release unit), but it wasn't that fast. I'm sure it will work the same on other USB-C laptops.
By the way, if you are using the device while charging it with this power bank then you may not see the battery level increase, you may actually see it decrease over time. But you'll notice that the rate of battery level decrease is slower than if the power bank was not connected. So all this means that the rate at which the power bank is putting power into your device's battery is slightly lower than the amount of power your device is currently using at that time. So it kind of prolongs your battery life while you're using your device, instead of getting you to full battery - which is still a nett benefit IMO!
I'd suggest you buy the power bank off Takealot or Makro, then open the packaging VERY carefully without damaging it. Test it with your devices for a few days, and return it for free if you're not happy with the performance.
Hope that helps!
I believe that power bank that is having capacity to charging a laptop not allowed in aeroplane.
Would have been good if you had shown it really charging by showing the laptop screen, mine is not working with power bank and hard to find something in action
Great video man!!! Thanks
Many many thanks for this video. This is really helpful.
Think of lecture hall case , 6 wall outlets and 200 students , many in their 4th year with the inbuild laptop batteries that are shot... i found the jgotech was ok with hp kept 100 % home charges for as long as i was on line hours that day .... hours.... , surface pro's didnt accept charge for very long , await support to see if theres a fault or if this is known, they sell with surface adapter so it should work , 110w seems the strongest thats allowed on a plane.
Excellent video, just what I was looking for! Thank you so much. Subscribed.
I have been looking on Amazon, there is a 50,000mah power bank with USB-C but at £130 not sure. I have the Maxoak one which is fantastic for my Toshiba Z30 & iPad Pro 12.9 and powers my Dell 17 2 in 1. But need USB-C now for x360 and wondered if get away with a smaller unit or sell Maxoak, which is heavy but lasts, to get the new 50Kmah one.
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i like the video...thanks ...(could the background song be at
slightly lower volume please?)
u have a choice of hilarious backgroung music..
Sorry :-)
Very useful video. Thanks a lot
It is just connected in some cases actually charging is not happening. See with power banks which you are testing.
I look in the comments and everybody is so smart here but me.
HAHAHAHA!!!! 😡 Same
Most helpful video I have found on this subject. I have a question, maybe you could help out.
I'm buying the usb c Ravpower, and was wondering how it would do while. Charging from the HP laptops usb c charger. Would it negotiate voltage properly?
Hope you can answer or even make a video!!
Hi Juan, just tested this out for you and can confirm the HP laptop USB-C charger does charge the RAVPower at full rate! I tested and got a power input of 19.3V at about 1.3 to a near fully charged power bank. That is pretty much full rate. The Apple ones work as expected too.
Given the USB-C standard, most things would work doing this I'm guessing.
Techable thank you for doing that!
You are most welcome!
You have this wrong.... Your laptop was providing charge to the power banks, USB C will decide to be charged or to charge when connected
I don't think you are correct. I have tested this many times. You can either device to request the type (charge or discharge). My laptop power increased using this method, and my power bank power decreased.
@@techable7524 Hi, depends if you use a fully USB C type compliant wire, they are not all the same, the intelligent wires communicate between the devices and decide if to power or be powered.
I have a acer chromebook 15. I believe. My charger got damaged and I can't find a replacement for it. What is the charger that comes with this kind of computer. Please help.
Hello, i have an Hp laptop that can be charged using usb C, i am trying to charge the laptop using a 45w powerbank.. when i plug my powerbank the laptop is charging the powerbank instead of the opposite? how can i fix this and enable charging of the laptop from the powerbank
i have thunderbolt but when i plug it it does not work ( i also need a power bank for laptop since i will be using the laptop for 7 hours at school)
Hi there! thanks for the great tips and reviews! I currently own a HPX360EK not and found out input Voltage 20V DC is requires... wondering whether Anker power bank will compatible with my laptop. thank you Techable.
Not unless it supports USB-C charging :-) Or you could try them real plug power banks that output 120/240v but be careful!
You lost me after the 20th "we also going to..."
I just bought a powerbank with Power delivery with usb c output. The manual says that the usb-c port is a both output and input port (only one port). When i plug it into my laptop my power bank gets charged instead. I would like to charge my computer. Is it possible for anyone? For some reason the same powerbank can charge via the other usb-a output... The laptop says it is slower but it still charges. Thanks!
Bro my laptop is 65w ..can i charge it with type c ..and there is no indication of charging while using power bank and type c
Yeah if the laptop supports USB-PD it should work.
Apple did it the best. I wish hp could go the same
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How to charge my laptop when it battery fully dead and which android mobile has the option of supply
Can I charge the Laptop with my Mobile Phone charger Type-C cable?
Can you chareg a HP Omen 15-CE054ND with Usb type C?
No
I have a new HP Spectre X2 and have tried every USB-C powerbank I can think of and nothing has worked. I've ended up with a RAVPower powerstation AC unit that I can jack my stock HP AC charger into. Nothing else seems to work. USB charging is enabled. I bought one of the 26800 banks but sent it back. What am I missing here?
Hmmm tricky! I've checked the specs for that and Power Delivery is enabled on the USB-C port. I know the HP Spectre x360 sometimes takes around 10 attempts to get it charging from the power bank. Maybe HP had it locked in the bios? A bios upgrade may help.
It's a known issue with HP. Here's an article about it: www.pcworld.com/article/3017182/hardware/usb-c-charging-universal-or-bust-we-plug-in-every-device-we-have-to-chase-the-dream.html
You're the only person who seems to have beaten HP propitiatory set-up. I've got the most recent updates installed. Still nada.
Hi Mike, see my latest video where I do a review of the RAVPower battery bank, I go over getting it to 'catch' as sometimes it can be difficult.
I got that bank and gave it a try. I could not get it to work with the new HP Spectre X2. It wants charge the battery instead of the other way round. I restarted over 2 dozen times and it wouldn't work. I guess it's different from the Spectre x360. Too bad. I'd love to keep the battery. It's the best I've seen.
Sorry it didn't work out for you sir, was hoping it would work! It's a very good solution and near perfect once it works with a laptop.
Hi, i have a HP Envy with 2 USB Type C ports. My phone has a USB Type C charging port and when i connect it to the laptop it doesn't fast charge. Why is this? is there anything i can do? Thanks
A fast charger supplies 5v and 9v and the 9v is used for fast charging. Your laptop doesn't supply the required 9v for fast charging.
My asus ivobook 15 (X510UF) has 1 x Type-C USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) port CAn I charge it using this port
The question is how long would it take to charge a phone using the macbook\HP Envy itself? How much power does it deliver to the phone from the laptop's USB type c?
No matter how much I google I can't get an answer. I know a laptop can RECEIVE up to 100 watts with type c\thunderbolt, but how much can it actually GIVE via that port on a laptop to a phone?
Good question. I'm not sure the USB-C ports on the laptop can delivery USB-PD but from what I see it delivers atleast 10w when using my phone connected. So not a bad charge really.
@@techable7524 if that's true it's kinda disappointing. I mean you can't plug into a laptop a usb c splitter which would allow to connect lots of power-hungry devices like many hard drives without external power. Or maybe you could, it depends. I'm glad though that it's still more powerful than the normal usb 3.0
@@TabalugaDragon Yeah just tested with my USB-C power meter and it's topped at 11w. It's not too bad though as I understand only 3.5" drives need additional power. Not too sure about M.2 drives / NVME.
pls sir can i charge laptop battery externally method
Hi, I'm Yamunes. Is this power bank can use for Dell G15?
Can this work for a acer aspire one ?? Plz answer
Very useful mate, thanks.
Only problem I find is that I don´t know how much power a 15" laptop can draw at any time, so if I try to use one of this powerbanks because my battery is about to die, I may or may not be able to keep using the laptop if it´s charging slower than it´s drawing power. Correct?
Yup, that is in fact correct! Depending on the size of the battery you'll only get 30W max charging from this battery pack per hour so I'd say it's best to keep it topped-up when getting near 40% charge (laptop) or something, or do something a little less power intensive.
That´s what I thought, thanks for the clarification. I guess it´s just a matter of using the powerbank ASAP, long before the main battery is about to die.
I´m not sure, though, if that kind of slow battery (dis)charging can be detrimental to the laptop battery, since I wouldn´t want my non-replaceable battery to go bust by using this procedure. Do you happen to know if it´s OK to do that?
I actually know a great deal about battery tech - there is a lot of stuff protecting your battery (both laptop and battery pack) so don't worry about it. The main things that kill a battery are overcharging and letting them get too low in charge. To give your battery a long life (x 3) simply don't charge to full (90% is just about right) and never let it run down to 0%. If you're not going to use your laptop for a bit store at 80% charge and you should give it a long life. Your battery protection circuits in your laptop will prevent any damage to the battery. But keeping it around 80% is best.
But also, replacing a battery in this day and age is pretty easy too.
Thanks again for the advice, mate.
Not so sure about the "pretty easy" replacing of a battery though, in a time when an ever-growing number of laptops seem to be designed not to access them at all. And even if you can access them and you can actually change that battery without causing damage, there´s no telling if the manufacturer will ever sell you an internal battery X years down the road. More like they´re designed like that precisely to have the laptop replaced exclusively by the manufacturer at disproportionate prices. Still not as bad as modern cell-phones, but getting there pretty quickly...
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Makes tech video.
Uses a calculator to multiply 19 by 2.
I used a ravpower 60 w output and I noticed that my M1 MacBook dropped charge percent from 70 to 10% the next day. What could be the reason? It was also heated on the base of the laptop?
Sounds like the laptop was charging the power bank!
@@techable7524 No, it became clear. It was an update issue from Apple. The update came that night and then there hasn't been that issue again. The power bank is ok.
What about asus rog strix scar 17.3?
So I have a HP Pavilion laptop
Model: 13-u100ne
Could I use a USB c port to charge it as an alternative?
Most likely not too well, if it has a normal proprietary charging cable then that typically means it’s cuz it’s needed
And usbc charging will likely still decrease the battery if you are using it, so really only possible to charge with usbc when the computer is off
This is cuz windows laptops typically draw too much power and usbc is nice and convenient but don’t give enough wattage to charge normally, especially if trying to use the computer at the same time
Only really Apple has gotten usbc charging down right with even the biggest and most powerful MacBook pros still being capable of usbc charging and while using it
Like my 13 inch 2019 MacBook Pro I can use it while charging from a battery bank
But I also have a dell 7370 13 inch windows laptop that does have one single usbc port and will technically charge from it but only when off cuz otherwise it still losses battery life
I also have a 3rd laptop, being my gaming one, the Razer 15 which has a usbc port as well but definitely doesn’t charge at all with just a usbc cable
The Razers charger needs to meet its massive 200watt requirement where as for example all MacBooks can charge through usbc with just a 60 watt usbc block and from many battery banks
Will most 💻 change to usb c charging? My current Dell laptop power brick is 45w I can guess normal laptop are around this area more or less. Usb c can handle 100w so will most 💻 change to usb c soon enough?
I think they will! With USB-C becoming cheaper to produce it means you'll be able to buy and brand power bricks rather than create them scratch.
can i charge my Asus X505ZA with usb power delivery method? cause my laptop have usb c slot, but i don't know can i charge my laptop with usb c port?
Sadly looks like a no on this one :-(
Hi,
Just got my xps 13. I'm unable to charge it using my Pixel 2 charger. Please help.
Please try for an hour when the laptop is fully off and see if the battery level increases.
All usbc devices aren’t created equal, windows laptops typically draw too much power to charge over usbc properly
Apples MacBooks are perfect for usbc charging
Outside the smaller Razer 13 inch, which only has usbc charging like a MacBook and doesn’t even have another normal charging port, it’s pretty hard to find other laptops that can do as efficient usbc charging as a MacBook
Even other windows laptops with very similar processor specs and lower resolution screens than MacBooks like the LG gram which is very similar in power to a MacBook still comes with a proprietary charging cable and isn’t meant for usbc charging
Do you have HP Spectre x360 15 inch 2017 Kaby Lake to test it? I do have RavPower RP-PB058 and it won't charge 15" :(
Sorry I only have the 13 inch version. Are you sure you've enabled 'USB Power' in the bios? You can enter the bios by pressing ESC + F10 at boot. I tried disabling this and noticed I couldn't charge the laptop via USB powerbank.
Also double check you are powering the laptop correctly, the RAVPower does sometimes switch to charging mode instead of 'provide charge mode'. If the lights are flashing then the laptop maybe charging the powerbank!
I tried with both USB Power option on and off. In BIOS it says the option stands for the laptop ability to charge other devices while sleeping, so it should not influence the opposite direction. In fact, with both option on and off HP would still charge powerbank from TB3 port, so that is also not affected. Laptop is HP Spectre x360 15", 2017 edition.
It won't charge from power bank in both cases. For TB3 port, it would start to charge laptop for minimal currency (19.5V at ~ 0.2A - measured using Pluggable usb-c volt meter) for 1-2 sec, but then stops and start charging power bank. Pressing button on power bank would get back to laptop charging for 1-2 secs and then everything repeats.
I too had a few problems with the HP Spectre and USB-C charging from a power bank. Sometimes they don't play well with each other. It does take a few times for it to 'catch' and you may have to press and hold the button on the powerbank (about 8 secs) for it to go the other way. It may take a few attempts but it does work and hold eventually. It's not perfect I know. Hope this helps.
Also having this same problem. My spectre x360 will always draw charge from the ravpower if the laptop is on, but if its in sleep/standby, it'll show that its charging for only 1-2 seconds then reverse itself and start charging the power bank instead. All the times ive tried to hold the button for 5 seconds just does the same thing...charges the laptop for 1-2 seconds then reverses. Did any of you figure out a solution or any new info about this?
Are you able to charge your HP envy with the usb c hub????
Not got the laptop anymore to test for you sorry Carrot.
Can I use the anker 26800 plus/pd to charge the 65w Lenovo 720s. Will charging the laptop slowly hurt the battery?
If the laptop supports PD on the USB-C port then it should work just fine as they both conform to the USB-C PD standard. PD works in stages and both sides of the charging process communicate together to see what each can send and accept - they both start low and work up from there. Also, the laptop battery has a good charging and discharging circuit and will keep everything safe when it comes to charging and discharging. Slowly charging a battery is actually better for batteries but you can just let the laptop battery do its job.
I have a Wacom Mobilestudio Pro. According to the company it needs profile 5 which means 5V + 100W. I bought the Ravpower pack but sadly it does nothing. Any advice on charging or powerbanks I can use?
This is a bit late of a comment but I believe you mean 5 amps at 100W. If it was 5 volts that mean it'd have to run at 20 amps to achieve 100W of power. That much current on a DC power cable would be unsafe. For that particular device I don't think a power bank could provide the power you need. Best of luck (though I'm sure it's too late now)
Very interesting video. I want to buy a new laptop and I have a couple USB Type A power banks that I want to use to charge it with. I don't have a type C power bank. It just takes longer with a Type A power bank than with a Type C power bank. Now all I need is a Macbook pro 13 inch and a USB Type A to (micro) USB Type C cable. Thanks a lot.
Just make sure the laptop can take a charge from your powerbank before you buy either one :-) Go USB-C PD PowerBank if you can as think it's a better solution. Best of luck!
Can i charge my Macbook 13 pro with the Ravpower USB A powerbank ?? or is it to slow? Do i HAVE to buy a Powerbank with a USB C PD port in it? they cost alot more..
Yes you can, just takes longer! Takes about 3 times longer.
Thank you for the reply. What about with the laptop on, could i do low power usage like word and browsing the internet and charge at the same time or is it not enough power on the USB A?
can you charge asus zenbook ux410 with type c?
No
Can you charge laptop with mobile type c charger?
Yeah if the laptop supports USB-PD it should work.
please, give me link for your type c tester.
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hi, I have the hp spectre 15 inch laptop and my charger just broke, does it affects the laptop if I use a lower voltage charger? ( hp spectre 15" uses a 90W ) and I can't find the original charger anywhere, so my only solution is to buy a lower voltage ( 45W or 60W) or a powerbank battery. which one do you recommend.
If you know about any store that sells the 90w spectre original charger please let me know.
PD: very useful video
Hi Leonel, As long as it's a USB-C charger you should be able to use it! I mix and match USB-C chargers all the time. I sometimes charge my Macbook Pro 15, HP Spectre x360 and Google Pixel phone using the one charger, which is mostly my Pixel one (30w) and they charge it. Just depends on the power output really. My 30W charger will charge my MAcbook 3 times slower. All out the watts! USB-C charging is a standard, so you should be golden.
thanks a lot. you were really helpfull
My pleasure!
Is there a minimum power required to charge a dell xps 13 using usb type c ? ( Can i use iphone charger to charge it over 8 hours through the night ) ?
Yes, it should be a minimum of 5v and you should be able to charge your laptop using it (via USB-C).
Techable but only while off, the battery will still decrease if you use the laptop while plugged in with usbc
I have a question and a BIG problem .. I found a toshiba chromebook 2 laptop but I have NO CHARGER and I haven't purchased one from Amazon because I rather do one myself as a project lol ... it also hasn't been charged for 3 months or so
It's a 19v charger it uses and I have bought different tip adapters to do it on my own but I always seem to get stuck and it STRESSES me out .
Is there anyway you can help me by telling me the right equipment I need?. For it to charge I have all sorts of wires and usbs but still no luck
You COULD make something to do it, but please don't! You're going to be playing with voltages, currents and batteries that WILL CATCH FIRE if you do it wrong! Honestly, buy a certified charger for it!
Chromebooks are pretty low power. I used a Chromebook for school for a semester and I could even use my Qualcomm 3.0 car charger to top it off if I needed to. 19v isn't that specific though, you'd also need to tell us the amperage or wattage. Current fast charge standards for mobile phones are typically around 18w. That could be sufficient. If you have access to a USB C phone charger I'd honestly try that.
Thx it was actually helpful, I now understand quickly how volts and Amp. work, I ordererd an HP Spectre non x360 nor x2, and I was struggling to find a good power bank (either HP Power Pack or something else). Did you update the bios of the Spectre at 6.26 or above ?
Hi, just checked the bios version in bios and getting a version of F.23 - quite different to yours but maybe it will help you.
I received my RAVPower yesterday and tested it, it works just fine on the 3.1 gen 2 connector not on the gen 1 one, the bios version is F.30, thx for your video, the RAVPower cost me 50€ while the HP would've cost me 130€. Awesome, keep up the good work!
Awesome, thank you sir! :)
Also purchased a RAVPower, outputs 30watts to my Dell inspiron 13", charges when laptop on and off. Laptop moans a little about not having 45watts but it is a really good solution.
Great to hear it's working on more and more laptops, USB-C stuff really is so much easier!
He actually calculated 19x2 on calc LMAO.
Always show your workings! :-D
How long would it take to charge one of those computers using one of the usb A powerbanks.
Macbook Pro - (Capacity of Laptop Battery @ 87W) / (5 x 2.4 = 12W per hour) = 7.25 Hours while laptop off
HP Spectre X360 13" (if it worked) - (Capacity of Laptop Battery @ 45W) / (5 x 2.4 = 12W per hour) = 3.7 Hours while laptop off
Thanks man. This video was really helpful. I'm looking to get a new laptop and want to take it out in the bush car camping. Need an easy method for charging. 3.7 hours in reasonable. Could charge it while I'm asleep. Why do you think the Spectre is fickle with power banks. I was testing some power banks last night with my tablet and it also had issues. Aside from the macbook, do you know of any laptops that pair well with the battery banks?
Hi Chris, You're very welcome.
I've lost a lot of faith with the HP Spectre, there are a few things putting me off using this outside of the home. Battery seems to self discharge when completely off (around 10% per night) which is a huge issue for me. I'll be doing a video on it soon. I would not recommend the HP Spectre x360 to anyone at the moment.
I'd love to test out more laptops with the powerbanks but they are hard to get my hands on to be honest. I'm a very small channel so no offers of a demo unit.
I'm considering getting a 12" Macbook for travel or the 8th gen asus zenbook 3 deluxe but they are an expensive gamble without knowing for sure they are perfect for me. I know the Macbook works great but sometimes I need Windows for some things.
I broke my Samsung Ativbook last night......
The Spectre is officially off my list. I definitely want an 8th gen Intel. I wish there were more choices right now with those CPUs. I'm probably going to wait it out until Cyber Monday but I'm doing research now. I'm not into Apple. I got turned off back in the early 2000s. I don't like their customer service. I don't like MacOS. I don't like how controlling and restrictive their machines are. Repairs and parts are controlled. Also, don't like their prices. I'm a big fan of W10. I think it's the best version of Windows ever. I also like linux.
I have a list of specs I need on a new machine but I haven't found anything that looks ideal yet. The Dell 13 XPS is on the list. I wish the Samsung had an 8th gen. Samsung is my favorite.
Well you certainly know what you want :) I'm very picky too when it comes to laptops. Keyboard , weight and battery being my main. I'm still searching, I probably always will be doing :)
Why so many dislikes?
Because it's not studio quality :-)
@@techable7524 Well, I really appreciate your effort.
I'm sorry but the music drove me nuts! 😡
Sorry
@@techable7524 drop me a sub and all will be forgiven 😁
I've put all the results in the following chart:
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That's awesome! Thank you for the hard work! :-D
I have found RP-PB067 on Amazon UK would you know if this model is OK or difference between it and RP-PB058, please?
I'm sorry Ray, I don't know.
Techable no worries, appreciate the reply. Got to say a brilliant detailed video. Instead of just talking about it actually doing it! 👍
Hi, Found the RP-PB058 on Amazon UK but it says not compatible with HP Spectre but you show it does. Going to order at the price compared to the 50kmah one, can return if not.
@@rayerdinc2441 Yes I did get it working but took a while and doesn't always work - so please test for yourself to make sure it's the best for you.
Techable Thank you. Understood.
Use a fucking c to c line
What's that???
Low talking + loud (and bad irritating) music -> fail.
Thanks for focusing on the negatives and letting me know! :-)
The UK plug is the ugliest on the entire planet.
It's safe and durable
the camera position is bad dude ill give you a like but pls dont kill me with this awful angle
annoying music
oh well
Primero first
Your the only one who can see😤😯 why not zoom the meter😊☺