Why Some People Still Think Earth is Flat

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • We've known that Earth is round for thousands of years, but-in 2022-some people still think it's flat. This week we're exploring why so many people gravitate toward crazy conspiracies...and why some of them insist their beliefs are essential to Bible-believing faith.

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  • @mikegxgnxn7459
    @mikegxgnxn7459 2 года назад +7

    This is dangerous for weak, don’t question anything? Wow! Complacency and ignorance at its finest.

  • @jesustorralba2360
    @jesustorralba2360 2 года назад +6

    dude fill a glass with water and listen to what the water tells you. No we don't think the world is flat, we know what the water is telling us.

  • @morriskaplan6699
    @morriskaplan6699 2 года назад +19

    ah, the wonders of science! don't trust your own eyes...believe science! i looked across the s.f. bay and for more than twenty mile it was flat as can be but it should not be if there is curvature to the earth. as long as there are free thinking humans...there will never be only one explanation for phenomena.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад +1

      The Earth to as being a spherical ball within space.

    • @jamy_hensley5423
      @jamy_hensley5423 10 месяцев назад

      The earth has a diameter of approximately 8,000 miles. If you can see 20 miles away, it is 1/400 th of the diameter of the earth, on that distance, the earth's curvature is only 0.9 degrees.
      I have one question for you. The sun does disappear at the horizon. It looks bigger at the horizon than when it is on top of your head. But a plane on top of your head looks bigger than when it reaches the horizon. Why is it so?

    • @Martins913
      @Martins913 5 месяцев назад

      😂🤡

  • @Ann1234
    @Ann1234 Год назад +4

    Shawn’s absolutely right! It doesn’t make any sense. Flat earth, round earth, make no difference to me, it has no effect on my life. I’d rather put my time and energy into growing my relationship with my creator.

    • @moochiezpitt
      @moochiezpitt 3 месяца назад

      All truth matters, especially God's. His word literally says do not be deceived. We all have been through false teaching from churches and schools. Time to wake up.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 3 месяца назад

      The Earth ------- spherical ------- round.

  • @remnant.apothecary
    @remnant.apothecary 2 года назад +6

    When Jesus returns, “every eye will see him” I always wondered how this could be unless the earth is flat! or Jesus is flying around the earth?

    • @darrensadventures5903
      @darrensadventures5903 2 года назад

      Jesus will be in the sky, he may not ve flying around, he will more than likely stand still as the earth rotates. He will take around a full day gathering his people. Not because he can not do it in a moment. It's because things need to happen to fully the word of God.
      FYI, he will be arriving during the day time and in the summer months for the northern hemisphere

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      dont believe this clown and liar! the earth is flat, trust the Bible, not this clown.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад +1

      Flying around the Earth.

  • @bigtalk2598
    @bigtalk2598 2 года назад +6

    We latch on because it is the truth of God. It is so patently obvious to us, it is hard for us to understand how you are blind to it.

    • @samnept7480
      @samnept7480 2 года назад

      Also you can latch since 2 The 11: I will send them a Strong delusion so they can believe the lie!!

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      the only explenation is that this clown is a wolf in sheeps clothing. a clown and deciever.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад

      The ----- Earth is a sphere.

    • @bigtalk2598
      @bigtalk2598 Год назад +1

      @@maxamahnken7325 No, it’s not.

  • @pthomas776
    @pthomas776 2 года назад +13

    Not one verse in the bible supports the water ball earth. Read Genesis 1.

    • @samnept7480
      @samnept7480 2 года назад +1

      Your incredulity can't change the truth of the Bible... The shape of the earth can be seen and observe... the word firmament is from is SPHERE... but your kind try make it Half dome!... The first line of Isaiah 40:22 reads, “It is he [i.e. God] who sits above the circle of the earth.” Some have argued from this that Scripture teaches the earth to be a flat disc, rather than a globe. However, even if the original Hebrew is correctly understood to refer to a circle, this doesn’t necessarily indicate something flat; a sphere appears as a circle when seen from above-and indeed from whatever direction it is viewed. Moreover, there is good reason to believe that the word translated ‘circle’ might be better translated ‘sphere’.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад +1

      Earth round

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 5 месяцев назад +1

      The Earth is round

    • @pthomas776
      @pthomas776 5 месяцев назад

      @@maxamahnken7325 like a pancake

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@pthomas776 Earth ------ round ------ not a flat pancake.
      To both Flat Earthers and Moon Landing Deniers deny both the accomplishments of science and the reality of some spherical Earth. It's been known for more than 2,500 years that the world is round, as early Greek scientists demonstrated calculated the sphereficity of the Earth through simple measuring techniques ------ to long before the age of modern, sophisticated instrumentation and satellite photographical evidence of the (round) Earth from space. To since 1957 thousands of satellites have entered Earth orbit to have sent back both film footage and photographic evidence of some circular, spherical world.
      To Flat Earthers choose to deny this and live within a world to of pure self-deception. Flat Earthers choose to deny this and live in a world of pure self-deception.

  • @dwaynewal-e8615
    @dwaynewal-e8615 2 года назад +3

    What is strangely odd is that the flat or dome earth theory is now popping up a lot among some in God's last day church. Sigh.

    • @samnept7480
      @samnept7480 2 года назад

      Dwayne Wal-e Just a sign of God judgement on the Churches Falling away from Truth!

  • @sherylannejacobs7235
    @sherylannejacobs7235 2 года назад +10

    Do you know why we have never gone back to the moon?????

    • @vektacular
      @vektacular 2 года назад +11

      Because we never went in the first place….

    • @karenlewis4142
      @karenlewis4142 Год назад +4

      As Buz Aldrin said: "Because we didn't go there."

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@vektacularWrong

    • @vektacular
      @vektacular 5 месяцев назад

      @@maxamahnken7325 dynamite rebuttal! Your debating skills are kindergarten like, possibly 1st grade . I guess that’s why people like you believe space hero’s went all the way to the moon. Dumb

  • @JackSteele01
    @JackSteele01 2 года назад +11

    So how far over the curve will refraction continue to work? Flat earthers show videos of land marks over 100 miles away that should be over the curve by more than 6000 feet. There must be a point on a globe that refraction ceases to happen? Do you know what the refraction maximum distance is? Cheers

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      He is a clown and a liar! controlled opposition.

  • @garfieldrussell2481
    @garfieldrussell2481 Год назад +1

    Explain Joshua 10 vs 12 - 14. Why did Joshua command the rotating sun to stand still? Because he knew it was the sun that moves, not earth. Flat earthers are in belief of Gods word, that earth is still, yes it is the sun and moon that rotates around the earth under the firmament. Otherwise, if it were not so, he would have stopped the earth by his command. Think about this for a while. Gods word over NASA every day!!

  • @munsayac13
    @munsayac13 2 года назад +14

    Learn about Freemasons and you'll find out why they told you the earth is round.

  • @glfriendliness9793
    @glfriendliness9793 2 года назад +12

    And this Christian guy’s got a lot of nerve for thinking that flat Earth is nonsense, the Bible is filled with all sorts of apparent nonsense. Also, my memory of history is not short, and I do recall that there was a time when the church was absolutely against the heliocentric model, they even put Galileo under house arrest for saying such a blasphemous thing.

  • @bigtalk2598
    @bigtalk2598 2 года назад +15

    How does all that water "down under" stay attached to the earth and not fall off?

    • @ferdnerkel
      @ferdnerkel 2 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @jamesajanda
      @jamesajanda 2 года назад +3

      Exactly! Why doesn't this guy talk about the math that we are so told is the geometry of this curved earth is all focused on the numbers 666?

    • @lf3566
      @lf3566 Год назад +2

      @@xHidden1x he wasn't using sarcasm he was spitting out facts!

    • @RiZeUp48209
      @RiZeUp48209 Год назад

      @@jamesajanda that’s because this guy just like so many are using the Word for profit.

    • @Ann1234
      @Ann1234 Год назад +2

      @@RiZeUp48209 That just NOT true.

  • @MSB780
    @MSB780 Год назад +1

    That’s why I got off of Facebook because of all the nonsense, just like this flat earth error.

  • @howardbailey5853
    @howardbailey5853 2 года назад +3

    Was hoping for substance that I could learn from and share with others, but unfortunately this video seems to be a lot of rambling and labeling. People on both sides of the matter are genuine in their quest for truth and love for God. Compassion is needed. I'm not saying the earth is flat (or round), just that this video seems to lacks substance that could help bring resolution to the discussion, apart from the authority of the speaker for those who may know him. His closing remarks sound reasonable - for many persons, it will not matter either way.

  • @messenger1
    @messenger1 2 года назад +12

    Shawn, can you explain how it is possible to see all the kingdoms in a moment of time, on a ball earth, as written in this verse?
    Luk 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

    • @kwameathomas6862
      @kwameathomas6862 2 года назад

      Could it be that the “moment in time” phrase was referring kingdoms of a separate age and has nothing to do with a flat or round earth...

    • @darrensadventures5903
      @darrensadventures5903 2 года назад +1

      Are you saying that we can go on a high mountain and see all the cities of the world?
      Surely you are thinking as men do and not factoring in how an extra dimensional being like the devil could show all of the nations of the earth from one mountain top.

    • @Bruce.-Wayne
      @Bruce.-Wayne Год назад +1

      ​@@darrensadventures5903 ....and I still can't see the Statue of Liberty tip end from standing on mount Everest top end..😂....wait a second, flat earthers say I need a powerful telescope

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      He is a clown and most likely controlled opposition.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад

      It to being a vision

  • @imnotabotrlyimnot
    @imnotabotrlyimnot 2 года назад +4

    He said the earth being flat mattered not, when in fact, it would prove the earth was created.

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      he is a shill, a clown and deciever. he has no credibility to talk on any important subjects.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад +2

      The Earth ----- is round

  • @LevelEarthWD
    @LevelEarthWD 2 года назад +6

    What a disappointment this guy is. And he is saying all this with such conviction. 4 minutes in, I wanted to leave but promised my friend I'd watch. This is the most difficult things I have ever heard. And he believes in the moon landings. Saying the astronauts took pictures of a globe. Really? Then why do they say every image of earth we've ever seen is a composite. Blue marble guy ring a bell? Probably not. If anyone is super indoctrinated, this guy is. Poor guy. And he says the shape of the earth is unimportant. He has blinders on. We all were there dude. We all believed what we were taught, but we were taught a lie essentially. But I see he has no proof of a globe, that Bedford experiment is not the only proof we have. There are more than 200 proofs the earth is not a globe. and he doesn't even have enough info on flat earth to fill his 30 minute video. Sir, do us a favor and debate, on RUclips, any knowledgeable flat earth we. You will not succeed.
    *******It's easier to fool people then it is to convince them that they have been fooled. ********

    • @LevelEarthWD
      @LevelEarthWD 2 года назад +1

      What does it mattter. The matter is for us to realize the errors intentionally or unintentionally taught to us all. But these are not the only errors. Does he think we are spinning at 1000 mph at the equator? Why are the star constellations still fixed in the same pattern as always? They should be all over the place every single night a different night sky. Ugh. What a waste of my time watching this. So done with people who have minds shut. Bye

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      this clown must be controlled opposition. the adventist church was founded by freemasons. hence it makes sense that this clown is pushing the globe fairytale. his arguments are just like those of that clown "professor" dave.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад

      Earth to being a globe

    • @brethilnen
      @brethilnen 3 месяца назад

      @@LevelEarthWD you do not measure rotation in mile per hour. One uses rotations per minute/hour/second ect. Reject 1000 mph spin accept 15° per hour.

  • @stevenclark5682
    @stevenclark5682 2 года назад +7

    You better keep studying bro

  • @kimyeaman6557
    @kimyeaman6557 2 года назад +9

    So when the great controversy happened in heaven and statement is angels were cast down to the earth wasn’t Satan trying to tell them a conspiracy theory and don’t you think that he spread it throughout humanity and throughout time I think conspiracy theories can be very credible

    • @jacobvreeland6147
      @jacobvreeland6147 2 года назад

      I think you missed the point (and I'm paraphrasing) where he said that enough conspiracies turn out to be true that it allows people with weak minds and wills to continue to believe the vast majority that aren't.

    • @pitbullfarmer34
      @pitbullfarmer34 Год назад

      If I never questioned Sunday keeping instead of the 7Th Day Sabbath of God, I'd be a Catholic. I question everything now. The government will never tell you the whole truth.

  • @juniperabbott2614
    @juniperabbott2614 2 года назад +7

    Many people around the world believe the earth is flat...

  • @bihmthethird
    @bihmthethird 2 года назад +7

    Polaris is stationary and never moves...
    The constellations remain the same...
    Admiral Byrd's television interview tells a different story.

  • @christophehelmick2464
    @christophehelmick2464 2 года назад +3

    When the bible talks about the 4 corners of the earth it's just simply talking about north south east and west this doesn't mean it is flat if you can look at the sun and see that it is round same as the moon and all other planets why would God make earth the only flat planet not to mention the ocean would run off the side and the springs of the earth wouldn't be enough to replenish what runs off the sides

    • @frankgeiger7549
      @frankgeiger7549 2 года назад

      Your concept of what the Bible describes as to what the heavens and the earth are are incomplete. Therefore I don't blame your for not accepting your unbiblical concept, it makes no sense. But when or if you take the time to understand what all the Bible actually says on this issue then you will be much more apt to accept it for what it says. One thing to keep in mind is that ALL error is dangerous and Satan obviously has something big up his sleeve in order to deceive the world otherwise why would he strive so hard to present to the world such a strong unbiblical heliocentric deception?

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад +1

      Excellent!

  • @ASFMediaMinistry
    @ASFMediaMinistry 8 месяцев назад

    In the midst of this message on conspiracy theories, I get an ad that starts out, "This is the truth about the food shortage!"

  • @MSB780
    @MSB780 Год назад

    I listen to a handful of speakers like Shawn. They all have their calling. I love the men God has put in my life to teach me of the things I could never study for myself. The different perspectives, but all Biblical Truth, are a great addition to my own Bible studies. 😀

  • @crystalrussell3979
    @crystalrussell3979 8 месяцев назад

    I think it doesnt matter if the world is flat or round. It doesnt make any difference when there is so much more to to to spend time or attention to when we have so little time left. We dont have time to waste on things that distract us from what we should be doing.

  • @deanfloyd8931
    @deanfloyd8931 2 года назад +2

    What linkage can be sited to explain how a 360.98 degree rotating orb can maintaining its 24 hour synchronization, all the while orbiting the sun, millennium after millennium?

  • @Hardtruth11
    @Hardtruth11 Год назад

    Jesus is coming from the east and we meet him in the air.
    Rev 1:7 says that every eye shall see him. So if we are on a "ball" sphere earth/land, how do we all see him when he comes if we are living on the other side of the ball?
    Look at a Gleason's New Standard Map of the World (flat earth map) and look at 12 noon from the east. Jesus is coming from the east and if he stays at the outer edge at the 12 o'clock east noon position then every eye will see him. And looking towards his face. I believe that Jesus wants to look at us face to face when we meet.
    If we live on a ball not every eye will see him when he comes. And that would make Jesus a lier.
    My 2 cents. 😁 I am also a very proud Seventh-Day Adventist.
    Come on people get off your butts and spread the three angles message so that we can go home sooner. Chop chop dig dig let's go. We could have gone home in 1888. Let's go home in 2027 if not sooner.

  • @aneyethatcansee9045
    @aneyethatcansee9045 2 года назад +2

    It is...

  • @holdthewinds
    @holdthewinds 3 месяца назад

    Shawn I suppose you believe that our earth is spinning and orbiting the sun too. Yet, if you believe what God says, that is impossible.

  • @jaf6t3
    @jaf6t3 4 месяца назад

    Since I’ve never been high enough to see for myself, I do not know the shape of the earth. I do think from the principle of truth that it is important if we’re being deceived. Either way, I do believe the earth is motionless and that the heavens rotate above and around us.

  • @joepepsico342
    @joepepsico342 Год назад

    His commentary tone was condescending and with an element of irritation & tension. Not exactly the best I’ve seen of Shawn. But maybe he would say he was being Authentic?

  • @bigtalk2598
    @bigtalk2598 9 месяцев назад

    Professing to be wise, they became fools. Perfect example. Humble yourself in the sight of the Lord. And He will lift you higher and higher.

  • @patmalloy3569
    @patmalloy3569 Год назад

    In a sense Shawn, you are a believer in one of the biggest conspiracy theories ever lol.
    The resurection of Christ was made to be a conspiracy contrary to popular knowledge.
    Especially in the verses in one of the 4 gospels where te guards were paid off to tell that his disciples came and removed his body

  • @lesmore7
    @lesmore7 Год назад

    There is NO PROOF that the earth shaped like a basketball....NONE! ( Please keep in mind this is NOT a issue of salvation).

  • @PoplinAT
    @PoplinAT 2 года назад +6

    Wow. So, the mound of water between Hawaii and California is roughly 790 miles above BOTH COAST LINES,why then does the boat vanish before 300 miles plus the HORIZON???

    • @maddyboombaddybaddy6532
      @maddyboombaddybaddy6532 2 года назад

      Good question

    • @AMOFOUR4x
      @AMOFOUR4x 2 года назад +1

      It doesn’t actually vanish, that’s one of the flatearrhers main points, if you use a telescope, zoom in you’ll see the boat is still there…? This was actually proven. I’m not a flat earth guy but some questions they make sense, such as CGI globes? Remember, every difficult theory was met by debate, than conclusion…this is a good thing!

  • @hereistand6178
    @hereistand6178 2 года назад +2

    Powerful sermon and also it would really be nice to do a part 2 of how we humans want to know more about the devils plans than Gods plans no wonder a lot of people claim to been or what to see hell its not only the protestant churches even the SDA's lose sight of Jesus and sometimes focus on end time prophesy not that its bad after all that's the only way to know what the mark of the beast otherwise I love end time sermons but we should not lose sight of Jesus. We lose sight of Jesus because of conspiracy theories we forget that the end goal of satan is actually to destroy our souls and the biggest conspiracy of the devil is the sin problem. Thank u for the sermon I pray in Jesus name that we seek Jesus and only him after all one might have all the knowledge of the conspiracy theories and end time prophecies but if they do not have a personal relationship with Jesus well then their lost, no matter the data they know of what will happen at the last days.

  • @kayrush9834
    @kayrush9834 2 года назад +1

    Amen!

  • @AlejandroGtrrz
    @AlejandroGtrrz 2 года назад +1

    For the record I do believe the Earth is a globe, However this video is proving nothing other calling every conspiracy a theory & in itself is a "don't question anything" propaganda.

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      dont be scared to look into the flat earth. test it yourself. once you see the truth you will never look back and be confused by clowns and liars like him.

  • @mollygreeno7069
    @mollygreeno7069 2 года назад +5

    Read the book of Genesis.

    • @mollygreeno7069
      @mollygreeno7069 2 года назад

      Also the doctrine of Christ is the ONLY true way to go and I won't argue with anyone..just find out for yourself if you ACTUALLY wanna be saved from this hellish world..not my words..

  • @bigtalk2598
    @bigtalk2598 2 года назад +6

    I don't think it, I know it. The Bible is clear on this subject. God will judge you for teaching things that are contrary to His Word.

    • @darrensadventures5903
      @darrensadventures5903 2 года назад +1

      Are you saying that believing about the shape of the earth is a salvation matter?

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      ​@@darrensadventures5903why do you bring up salvation? according to your logic you are not allowed to learn anything then.

    • @darrensadventures5903
      @darrensadventures5903 Год назад

      @pilgrimsnest592 maybe you didn't read the comment that I am replying to. You comment makes no sense when considering the context

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      @@darrensadventures5903 i did. where in the comment does he mentions salvation?

    • @darrensadventures5903
      @darrensadventures5903 Год назад

      @pilgrimsnest592 "God will judge you." Judgement literally has to do with salvation. If you can not see it, I can't help you.
      And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

  • @mrsa2you365
    @mrsa2you365 2 года назад +1

    You know it's a controversial topic when there's far more comments than on any other video lol He's definitely right about this topic being a waste of time. It has nothing to do with salvation. There's far more pressing matters than if the earth is flat. I hope this isn't one of the masters of the heart that God is concerned about😫 I had a family member that was adamant about talking about the earth being flat and I asked him if the earth is flat what does that mean in the grand scheme of things and how is it going to change his life? I'm still waiting on the answer

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад +1

      it is a very important topic! why do you compare salvation to it always? they you should not learn anything by your logic.

    • @bigtalk2598
      @bigtalk2598 Год назад

      Because if you are serious about the word of God, you need to believe all of it or none of it. Disregarding the obvious teachings in the Bible to conform to this satan filled world is a cop out.We are to be in the world, not of the world. SCIENCE LIES!!!! All the time. Evolution, Covid, etc. etc.

    • @windsofchange31
      @windsofchange31 10 месяцев назад

      You're still waiting eh? It means God is very close and I received an understanding the moment Holy Spirit asked me a cpl. questions, but I will not squander that upon you to have you turn and trample it. Your worldly and church programmed reply of this subject "that it has nothing to do w/ Salvation" is simple rhetoric and lacks true critical thinking and observation skills.The Truth sets one free.... Many have come to God through this given understanding. Something this world system always suffocates as does infiltrated church "doctrines of men and demons"... I also wonder if you believe the wolf always dwelt with the Lamb, and that Jesus now says to slay one's enemies, not love them and pray for them? How about men nursing babies (not allegory) either. How about the Lord's Prayer and John 3:16? SHALL be saved or "should" be saved? That one word alone makes a HUGE difference.
      There is far, far, far more happening than heliosorcery among those proclaiming Christ. You and all people have been lied to your entire life and trillions of dollars spent on something false, and in many different areas of study, but being a good Berean is not taught much anymore and few will admit it somehow has gone missing from our old in home bible scriptures as well.Yet you claim a false evangelism taught is more important. God knows exactly who all are His and since before the foundation of this world as Ephesians states and teaches. The Good News of The Gospel led by Holy Spirit to each person and not made up Romans row formula stuff... which is also in scripture now : "stuff"... really, since it is modern vernacular.
      ...Now simply and calmly ask yourself why any of this might be. The #1 answer is they hide God and always have and shall continue to. If they cannot hide Him they use false doctrines and beliefs. I mean, how many divided denominations do we need? The answer truly is none, but I understand at this late date that is impossible. Christians are some of the most dumbed down, falsely religious, and mean spirited ppl around b/c of these taught superior doctrines. What you believe is up to you, but consider deception, all the deceptions you thought were truth prior to accepting Jesus as LORD and Savior.
      Radical, yet simple Truth is being revealed and has been for quite awhile per the Prophecy that "all things hidden shall be revealed". I understand you most likely will not hear a word shared, but perhaps one other might get a spark or two of truth and God's Love for His People from my words.
      "Wackadoodle conspiracies" this man says..starts off with an ad hominem attack of ridiculing others... "condemnation before investigation"...that is a sure sign and lacks an ability to have the true gift of being respectful and circumspect. Plus he is teaching using corrupted scriptures (and is blind to it or God forbid, is lying) as if biblical cosmology isn't challenging enough for ppl.~winds~ Amos 8:11 anyone?

  • @robertmueller2023
    @robertmueller2023 9 месяцев назад

    High time to get a second opinion. Does that make sense, Charles and Rudy?

  • @robertmueller2023
    @robertmueller2023 9 месяцев назад

    Satan ... Too Big To Fail? We think otherwise.

  • @johnvan2525
    @johnvan2525 Год назад

    Ellen white says we shouldn’t debate this topic. Do you subscribe 100% to what she teaches?

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад +1

      adventists are run by freemasons, hence this clown is pushing the globe lie.

  • @michaelmclaughlin4374
    @michaelmclaughlin4374 Год назад

    So I guess walter vieth is just a conspiracy nut

  • @BreadLightPray_EWFMgtr
    @BreadLightPray_EWFMgtr Год назад +1

    ☑️👍thank you Shawn ‼️ Authentic is balanced ✝️🙏🙏

  • @dannyfaulknerstars
    @dannyfaulknerstars 2 года назад +5

    You have good insight into the flat-earth movement. I, too, have concluded that the appeal of belief the earth is flat is that of Gnosticism. I've battled the flat-earth movement for more than six years, and I long ago found that arguing with convinced flat-earthers is a waste of time. Instead, I concentrate on providing answers to people who have encountered flat-earth arguments and are looking for rebuttals to the claims of flat-earthers.

  • @NightmareRex6
    @NightmareRex6 6 месяцев назад

    and some others say the line in bible that says "and he hangeth the earth on nothing" is saying it is round, peaople claim NDEs and soem say they see flat earth and others say they see space and roudn earth., so are all these NDEs false and just part of the deceviers?

  • @radioorania6876
    @radioorania6876 Год назад +2

    We haave a lot of flat earth people in our towns. One day I had to burst into laughter when the person told me that I make God small. The only question I asked is: Who makes God small? The person that tells that God only made a dome or me knowing that God greated billions of universes

  • @pamelawinson3192
    @pamelawinson3192 2 года назад

    Very interesting...
    Here to suffer...here to find answers to not keep suffering?..

  • @geraldbodnar2718
    @geraldbodnar2718 2 года назад +7

    Water above and water below the FIRMAMENT !! Look at it as a plate that is round but flat and covered by the FIRMAMENT ! We are on one gigantic rock and our earth as " we are told " is a small piece of it ! We haven't and can never travel outside the FIRMAMENT ! We will soon see lands beyond your imagination !

  • @lien4835
    @lien4835 2 года назад +2

    Unless you are intentionally showing the flat floating disk in space which is far from what flat earthers really believe in you have no idea how Biblical the flat earth is or you did zero research about it and you are simply rambling about what you've heard. Do your research and then try debunking, if you really want to-a kind advice.

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад +1

      this clown must be controlled opposition. his adventist cult was founded by freemasons, hence him pushing the ball earth fairytale. these people are wolfs in sheep clothings.

    • @RiZeUp48209
      @RiZeUp48209 Год назад

      @@pilgrimsnest592he’s a super clown for this frfr 🙏❤️

  • @christophersolias3601
    @christophersolias3601 2 года назад +6

    It's flat.

  • @brandontygret5508
    @brandontygret5508 Месяц назад

    This is not winsome.

  • @ferdnerkel
    @ferdnerkel 2 года назад

    Pattern recognition is an amazing feature of our brains, yes indeed. As a Christian and a student of Prophecy I can see why God created us in this way. He has placed In his Word, a multitude of patterns which repeat (ecc1;9).
    Pattern is one of the keys to comprehending biblical prophecy. Greco-Roman thought says prophecy=prediction+fulfillment
    There are predictions and fulfillment in scripture which seem to affirm the formula mentioned above but what happens after that fulfillment? Many prophecy teachers Say 1/3 of the Bible is prophecy, according to the above formula that is true yet Rev 19;10 says the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. That could only mean that what Jesus taught was prophetic yet he only made a few predictive statements. What about the rest? Hmmm...

  • @pearlsforswine9624
    @pearlsforswine9624 2 года назад

    Go to the comment section of a video on schizophrenia, you will find them claiming that it is a conspiracy too.

  • @MSB780
    @MSB780 Год назад

    It’s not just conspiracy theorist who are messing with the peoples heads. It’s false Christian’s of the world, like All kinds of movie stars are coming about saying they are Christian, but they don’t live like the Word of God says, not at all. While people in the world listen to their beautiful sonnets, and that’s all they are, because there is no truth in the life they are living. It’s all words, and emotion. 😢
    Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.”
    God is a reasoning God. Our emotions mean nothing, when it comes to (truthful) God service.

  • @miklosh515
    @miklosh515 2 года назад +4

    ... it's flat

  • @kwamepi1
    @kwamepi1 2 года назад +1

    The Bible confirms the world is a globe

    • @messenger1
      @messenger1 2 года назад

      That is interesting. Can you give the texts that support your claim?

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад

      Yes

  • @thehealinghiker
    @thehealinghiker 2 года назад +1

    OH I feel your pain, it’s like banging your head against a cement wall discussing with these people. I’m like you, I have to shut them down or they’d waste so much of my time. You preached it hard and I’m so grateful for you! Love the title of this video too! Keep up the powerful messages.

  • @Bruce.-Wayne
    @Bruce.-Wayne Год назад

    and I still can't see the Statue of Liberty tip end from standing on mount Everest top end..😂....wait a second, flat earthers say I need a powerful telescope

  • @mudfloodwasarmageddon
    @mudfloodwasarmageddon 4 месяца назад

    Not well done.

  • @rodneywallace6810
    @rodneywallace6810 2 года назад

    There are parts of the bible that go more into detail about earth,but alas....they were removed.no doubt purposely.

  • @btekwindsolar
    @btekwindsolar 2 года назад +1

    You can see the horizon BEHIND THE SUN, do your research. The Michelson Morley experiments and Sagnac proved 100 earth us motionless.

  • @lf3566
    @lf3566 2 года назад +4

    I started reading the Bible when I was around 7 therefore I have always known the earth was not a ball spinning 1000mph while chasing the sun at 66,600mph while racing through space at about half a million mph because it totally didn't correspond with what the Bible was telling me. I never spoke about this to anyone as I was growing up I completely kept it to myself. I never even heard of anyone talk about a flat earth. Just within the last couple of years I watched a few videos about flat earth and I was amazed that others knew the truth as I did. There are some flat earthers that are quacks but there are several that are great Christians that are merely trying to educate by spreading the truth. The shape of the earth may not change someone's relationship with God but its important to know how Satan has deceived so many through the heliocentrism model which is why so many don't believe in God. God bless

    • @messenger1
      @messenger1 2 года назад

      Here is some Freemason Science
      - Earth tilts at 66,6 degrees
      - Earth spins around the sun at 66,600 mph
      - Earth curvature is ,666 feet per square mile
      666 seems to keep popping up
      Is this not Interesting "science" ?

    • @pilgrimsnest592
      @pilgrimsnest592 Год назад

      yeah this clown here must be controlled opposition. to proud to admit that he is wrong.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Год назад

      The Earth is a spherical ball in space.

  • @ChipsAplentyBand
    @ChipsAplentyBand 2 года назад

    In the English Bible OT the older usage "earth" (land, soil) is used to translate 'eretz' (land, soil). Our modern usage "Earth" (planet) ISN'T USED in the Bible. Flat Earthers routinely misinterpret LAND passages as though they were talking about the PLANET (and celestial mechanics) instead. Failing to notice/respect the earth/Earth distinction in English is a major part of where their Bible exegesis goes wrong.

  • @stevenclark5682
    @stevenclark5682 2 года назад +5

    Earth is not a globe,sorry you ve been deceived.

  • @messenger1
    @messenger1 2 года назад

    Shawn Boonstra has been actively removing comments that disagree with his ball-earth conspiracy.
    I have lost trust in him and his preaching, so I have now destroyed all his "Authentic" series videos. He cannot be trusted

  • @nadyatytian279
    @nadyatytian279 2 года назад +1

    Sometimes it amazes me how people can believe certain things that have not been proven, especially Flat Earth theories, just travel in a ship until there's no land. Then you'll know what I mean.

    • @jamesajanda
      @jamesajanda 2 года назад +3

      The problem with your statement is that the distance that you claim put you over the horizon actually is just that the land is so far away you can't see it with the naked eye. I have seen the experiment and once you included a telescope the land is again visible.

    • @samnept7480
      @samnept7480 2 года назад

      @@jamesajanda Are you willing to make a voyage on the see to prove your flat World.. or show a Model that work with the way night and day work??

  • @franswensink76
    @franswensink76 2 года назад

    I believe it once was flat a disc

  • @glfriendliness9793
    @glfriendliness9793 2 года назад +1

    There’s no possibility that God made the heavenly bodies for man’s navigation on Earths and for Earth to be rotating thousands of miles per hour around the sun. No way. The heliocentric model can’t account for the done
    vault separating the waters of the heavens from the waters of the Earth.

    • @samnept7480
      @samnept7480 2 года назад +1

      The Hebrew word in question is khûg (חוּג) which is also found in Job 22:14 where, in many Bible versions, it is translated ‘vault’. For example, the New American Standard Bible reads, “Clouds are a hiding place for Him, so that He cannot see; and He walks on the vault of heaven.” Clearly ‘vault’ carries the sense of something three-dimensional and is given as the primary meaning of khûg in the well-known Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon.1 In modern Hebrew, a sphere is denoted by khûg, along with kaddur, galgal, and mazzal.2 In Arabic (another Semitic language), kura means ball and is the word used in the Van Dyck-Boustani Arabic Bible (1865) to translate khûg in Isaiah 40:22.

  • @ralphricart3177
    @ralphricart3177 2 года назад

    Of course the Earth isn't flat. It's actually concave. We live in a massive cave and the firmament is a giant glass ball.

  • @liammaps5613
    @liammaps5613 2 года назад +1

    When they talk to you about the flat earth, ask them their thoughts on the books of Enoch and whether they should be Canon or not. You’ll probably find that they have to bend their view of the shape or structure of the Earth in order to fit the book of Enoch in as the Inspired word of God. That should be an interesting conversation. Or better yet, follow your own instincts and the guidance of the Holy Spirit and just don’t engage, which matches what you’ve already learned. 😊

  • @reneejacobs4599
    @reneejacobs4599 2 года назад +1

    Oh my! This was right on time!! Thanks, I shared.

  • @marlenebouthillette8373
    @marlenebouthillette8373 2 года назад +1

    Glad you presented this much needed subject.

  • @lecoeur1231
    @lecoeur1231 2 года назад

    Amen

  • @PEEWHENYOUNEEDTO
    @PEEWHENYOUNEEDTO 2 года назад +2

    Spirit of prophecy never addresses this issue either way. Egw knew its a divisive distraction. She was wise.