BMW M5 powered Wiesmann GT MF5 on road and track - CAR and DRIVER
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- We get behind the wheel of the wicked Wiesmann GT MF5 and take a quick factory tour for some insight into Wiesmann's history on the latest episode of Car and Driver: Abroad.
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I would buy that car in a heartbeat!
Too bad that they went out of business. The worlds a little less awesome.
They haven't gone completely out of business, just reformatting their business model so they can resume production. It's more of a hiatus.
+jed52 Nope
+jed52 That`s what everyone says when they go bankrupt :p
Honestly, jed52's right on this one. If you go to their website they have a new CEO and a contract with BMW regarding supply of engines... meaning that they are supposed to be coming back around 2018/19-ish. So, funnily enough, are more models from RUF, TVR, Alpine, Borgward, and Bristol... cheer up!
@@algernonilfracombe Or if you REALLY want a BMW engine wrapped in that sort of look...
Morgan's still going strong
Why are people saying that this is overpriced, this car doesnt impress every day people like a lambo or ferrari because its not quite as flashy, this car is recognised by real car people not just footballers, why are people complaining about it being bmw running gear a drivetrain they are renowned for making the most reliable engines in the world and have been making the best RWD cars for 4 decades
I'd rather have one of these than a Lamborghini Huracan. Classier, probably more fun to drive and cheaper to maintain and repair.
@@jose_s_bam7938 you can say that again!!!
when are BMW reliable? they are full of plastic bits and overpriced parts
@@asadkhan-qm1my aight, I'm about to rip you a new one. Do you know what engineering is? It's mostly about efficiency in many ways, to achieve something. Engines back in the day, where mostly metal, extremely unefficient compared to today's engines. Plastic is used on all engines nowadays as you don't need metal on all components, as that makes the engine heavier, more expensive to build, and very unefficient and unreliable. Most engines today can easily out do more then 100k miles for this same reason, less weight and better efficiency. Also, I bet you anything that you've never even owned a new BMW to have a say in this... so shut up.
BMW fanboys just know how to quote from a brochure. Looks like you have zero ownership experience when it comes to keeping one, that is why hollow people lease it to impress meaningless people.
love the design
this car is so underated!
look so stunning. Like a 60's car and we miss that today
i wish i have one
One of the most erotic cars I have ever seen.
It's I think the most beautiful car I have seen, i really reminds me of the Bugatti Type 57 SC Atlantic .
Emotional and amazing design
Perfect car. Looks of the 40's and runs like a modern fast car.
It not everyday that someone looks into all the cars available in the market and thinks "None of them satisfy my need so let me build my own car", Salute to people like Horacio Pagani and the Weismenn brothers for making it happen in recent times...... Another top notch video from CARandDRIVER... excellent camera work by the way! Rocking as always
I'd love to have one of these. Talk about a head Turner. This car is beautiful and very strong. 3100 lbs and 547 hp. Yeah that car will be a beast
i had to wait 5 fucking minutes through a go pro ad to watch this with no ability to fast forward...SERIOUSLY?
+clys69 it's 2016 use addblock!
+coawler oz Better Adblock
That car is bad ass!!!
I'll take one, thank you very much
Ever since Jeremy Clarkson reviewed an MF3 on Top Gear, I have been smitten with Wiesmann and their product. Methinks an MF4 coupe would do me VERY well, thankuverymuch. I can't AFFORD it ... but it would do me very well! [grin!]
TOP GEAR TEST TRACK!!!
nowadays we say a 1400 kg car lightweight ..... sorry but it's not . but it's a marvelous looking thing , that's for sure .
+TheZisco What exactly do you consider lightweight?
for sure not a 1400 kg car . this is not lightweight. In my opinion a 1100 ,or even less , is lightweight. In older days you could find such cars , if not lighter pretty easy . Of course there are safety aspects that raise overall weight .
+TheZisco So you have under 1100kg car with V8TT or V10 with more than 500hp? Must be rare or brute. I have 1100kg Z3 Coupe with less than half the power and some carbon fiber. It's not easy and its not cheap especially with bigger engine you need everything else bigger and heavier too. But true 1400 is not true lightweight. But it is superlight compared to 2000kg M5.
@@djremotion2 A Z3 Coupe is roughly 1350 kg according to mine.
Parts in your car are mild steel, plastic, wood or lead and and on my car those same parts are aluminium, carbon fiber and lithium. @@derJackistweg It has been a shit load of engineering and design work but it is light!
Wow, what an super car, and very well presented guys, excellent video guys! Thanks (favorite'd)!
yeah this would be welcome in my garage after i win the lottery
Thats deffintiely one of the best looking cars ever
They should have put in e60 V10 and a manual transmission.
the wiesmann mf5 got the v10
+test channel He MF5 had the V10 untill BMW stopped the production of this divine engine
it was planned to build 35 wiesmanns with this engine...but at the end there was just 33
And 10 times the price :P and it's not available yet in N/A! But it's definitely one of the coolest cars I've ever seen!
If it had the V10 from the e60 and a 6-speed manual. It would most definitely be one of my favorite cars.
This car looks gorgeous
I really love this company. I wish their come back this time around works out.
2014- "According to the latest reports coming in from Europe, all but six of
its 125 employees have been sent home. The company apparently doesn't
have the funds on hand to either pay its employees or pay its suppliers,
and effectively ceased operating at the end of March, having produced
just over 1,700 vehicles in the course of 20 years of manufacturing."
www.autoblog.com/2014/05/08/wiesmann-shuts-down-again-bankrupt-report/
looks like a Jag or a Morgan on steroids
It's somewhere between Morgan and Marcos I think!
It's got that retro look which it shares with the Mortan, long hood, very wide at the back, short cabin and rear deck with a very dramatic fastback design
the engine is Superb! the design is Classic! the car is Phenomenal! I Like it! nice review too.!
This is what a dream car looks like.. Art like appearance and reliable engine inside
I can't understand why all of these car manufacturers are just removing manual transmissions from the options. It's ludicrous to me to not even offer a true manual, it's the true driving experience over these 'manual' transmissions that are nothing more than an automatic that you shift with a lever if you feel like it.
I totally agree. Manual gear box is part of the experience in a sports car, super car or, even a hyper car.
Top of the desirability scale, exquisite
WIESMANN = JAGUAR XK120 REBORN INTO A MORE GLORIOUS FORM
Not a fan of german cars but this seems to grow on me every time I see it
It's not cheap, that's for sure. I guess that's always the way with low volume stuff. They just don't have the economies of scale. And with increasingly tight crash/emissions and noise regs the costs become huge for small companies.
yeah:D, but the best one you can get at the moment, apart from dual clutchs... Its the 8-speed ZF transmission (not 6 speed!!) Audi is also using this transmission in the S and the future RS models.. it is amazing. there are so many testers who initially thought it was a dual clutch, but it isn't!! watch the comparison of M135i vs Audi RS3 by Chris Harris and what he says about it. same 8 speed transmission!
That red though 7:05 !
I've watched this video about 5 times in the past few years. Only proper video on the car. I want one.
And I thought I was the only one. This car always seemed to spring up into my mind making me search for it and watch this video. Too bad, the company shut down in 2014.
Max L me too, it’s my dream car alongside the Porsche 911
TONS!!!!
Great video!
These cars are awesome with those BMW M-engines, just fantastic!
nice design with modern reliable tech perfect and of course top engineering
Damn now I have to go play Forza 4
Those are the best looking rims I've ever seen
Perfect Car..... i love manual car construction. So Beautiful.
Yes there back from bankruptcy
This is just a European copy of the famous AMERICAN VIPER. Cant you germans make your own car for a change instead of copying us???
Great review, even better car... Damn it looks nice!!
Beautiful car. Reminds me of the TVR
i really wanted to see the interior
This looks like a Porsche and a Morgan had a baby.
It will sell by the boatload in the States.
This is such a small thing but I want to thank you for giving the weight in both kg and lb. It's such a detail but this is the first place I noticed where the reviewer gives both because we car enthusiasts come from all around the world.
I'm not that deep in because:
1) My car isn't worth putting THAT much money into
2) I'm more into the handling/comfort balance mix of things.
The two things I want most for my car are Eibach ProKit springs and a Weappon R 4-2-1 header. Otherwise I'd be happy. Maybe some new bushings and a few underbody braces to give the overall structure a break would come later. Alloys aren't a huge want, but again... maybe way down the line. I still just enjoy what driving it can do.
Some people are willing to go without. I think the BRZ and MX5 could have gone further-- what do I want with power windows? Regulations can't be helped, but too many features in a drivers car....
Then again it's not like one can help wanting some lux, either. And not everyone can afford more than one car. But I see features as a distraction from the machine itself. If that's what consumers want to do, so be it. I'm a driving enthusiast, not a tech nerd or one to be bored on a drive.
That is all? But the same oil fill cap, eh? Hmmm... :) I find it hard to believe that S63Tu shares only 4 things with the S63. From what I've read, the main differences are compression, boost pressure, exhaust manifolds, injectors and VALVETRONIC. But would love to see where you get your information, though! I'm always up for learning :)
BMW's M Division once made light simple cars? Dude, 2,500lbs may be light now, but in the 1980's you'd find dozens of cars weighing under one ton. Simple? Again, those BMW we're usually well equipped. Even something as simple as a tilt wheel was surprising back then.
Couldn't agree more. I have friends who invest in ridiculous stereo's and tons of interior bullshit, meanwhile, all I spend money on is my drivetrain. Real, genuine, passionate drivers - we're a rare bunch.
the car looks amazing but for 200 000 you would actually expect a bit more from the interior. ... get the drive train, get a bmw e30/e36 shell and you have an amazing car.
Nearest comparable car still available has to be the latest Morgan aero...albeit secondhand..BMW have ceased production of the 4.8 litre V8 lump.
wow this is a car nobody seems to know about in supercar news its always lambo ferrari lambo astons porsche on &on but wiesmann ????? never heard of wiessmann it is the ultimate sleeper car & i love it what a car corning &handling is superb Top speed i dsont know but 250 kph good enough but the looks is off the chart well down wiessmann
I'd like to talk to the designer . . . we have unlimited power plants that would love to run that car body . . . and a sedan for family use . . .
I'm sorry but comparing a 200k sportscar to a multi million dollar super/hypercar isn't really fair
I can imagine going for a Huracan over this. This, in black, is a supervillain vehicle that I am in love with.
Only 547hp? Why put two turbos on a V8 engine if the final hp is less than a n/a v10, like the one on the Lexus LFA?
I'm not sure why I love the looks so much. It's not pretty, but I like it. Kind of like the Gumpert Apollo, I guess.
yes before the new m5 was released. They now have a v8 in there because BMW stopped production of the lovely v10
I would want this car with the v10 instead. Sounds way better too, but this car is still a master piece.
but v10 !!
This car sounds a heck of a lot better than the M5, even though both has the same engine... How?
I feel that the car is laughable. Regardless of the looks, I really want one. Though you couldn't ask for more from what wiesmann has done with the interior, hand crafted and all, I do feel that it lacks a sort of finesse in the cockpit, and the gauges need to be in front of the steering wheel,Center console gauges in a Mini is fine but, I certainly would not want to take my eyes off the road for too long while driving that beast.
im very aware of that, however the m5 does not need to be that heavy. BMW could use lighter materials (i.e. carbon fiber) and still keep the luxury aspect at the level it is currently at. Another point is that BMW M should start developing their own cars/supercars, for example an "M" or "M10" where its all about performance, because a supercar would not need two personalities, where that aspect is what makes an m5 special, btw the M5 is still an enthusiast car, just in a different way.
Come one man think a little,,,this car is just not on the ZR1/Viper status. It doesn't have 600hp and it has a 4.4 or 4.5L V8. Viper runs a 8.4L V-10 640HP bone stock no turbo no supercharger. ZR1 runs 638hp supercharged built 6.2L V8. Hell the Z06 runs a 7.0L V8 505hp. This car could maybe keep up with a C6 Z06 on top end. But hey this is a nice car if it was availible more readily in america,,I guarantee americans would buy it. Its just not on Zr1 or Viper status.
A chimp can master an automatic flappy gearbox,it takes skill to master a clutch properly and get the best times out if it.DCT's may be faster on a track because you don t have to lift off the clutch but who cares in day to day driving?I d rather have the involment that comes through a manual gearbox than a flappy gearbox Manuals will come back more once this fad is over and people remember that driving is about actually driving and not numbers in a car magazine. Flappy gearboxes? no thanks.
I have a manual Brz I love it. If the auto was just as fast I would still take the stick. I took the original Audi Q5 3.2 Auto on a twisting winding road in northern VA. A front heavy AWD cuv. It was a blast. In sport mode the trans would not let go of 3rd gear. It was almost like it knew what I was thinking. It depends on the car. I hated the older Corvette manuals that made you shift from 1st to 3rd with the heavy unconnected clutch. I know one thing the DSG GTI is more fun than the stick.
I love good manuals also. They are wonderful. (BUT) The dual clutch or DSG GTI is amazing it seems to know what you want to do and makes perfect shifts time after time. It will snatch second. The six speed Auto in the original Q5 was wonderful also. When you have a 540 hp 3000 pound car sorry I would pass on the stick. Unless you have lightning fast reflexes you would be hitting the fuel cut off all day long.
There's that word again, "retro". The Weismann isn't "retro" but "classically styled". Not every car made needs to be a product of watching too much sci-fi and anime or straight from a "by gone" era. However, automobile designers should learn classic design, how it works, and why it is classic, before making up something "new". It works for musicians, architects, fashion designers, and so on.
"The future is the past refined."
what an auto love that suptle wing at the back not overdone handles like a dream looks so good k\so good the design wice track short wheelbase what a dream auto carry on wiesmann
Absolutely gorgeous car! Only two things wrong with it though...
No manual gearbox and those speed/rpm dials are in the centre console wtf??? Yea one moment, just checkin how fast I go, gotta turn my head 45 degrees just to check my speed in this car... Oh shit! In the meanwhile you crashed your precious Wiesmann against another car or a tree... Good job Wiesmann!
what u guys dont understand is that a BMW M5 is basically a family car which was never meant to be a racetrack car even though it is misused as such .dont complain about weight its the compromise between luxory and sportyness.
this car however is reduced to its basics what a drivers car is about in old english sports car tradition.
You could, but for once an M5 is meant to be a 5 series thats been upgraded, not a totally different car, and a 5 series is just your sedan you use to get to work and such, not a car you keep in your garage untill its sunny outsite and take it to trakedays. If you are looking for that kind of car, the M3 is the way to go, as there have been lightweight versions of it.
I totally disagree. I love the feel of the clutch. Driving flappy paddles is like a video game. As far as the engine, I could care less if it's N/A, turbo, or supercharged. I really don't like the lag of a turbo, (and I'm not a turbo "fan") but if done right and I'm in a car hauling complete ass, I could care less about the aspiration.
Batmobil :) Great!!! Love it!!!
Really looks like a proper gentleman car. They should feature it in James Bond movie
you are wrong ...
1. the average germans are larger than the average us boys
2. there was a german car tester and race driver called Patrick Simon he is with 6.34 ft much taller than you,he test drove the MF5 GT (the older version with the M5 V10 n/a) and had no problems at all to fit into the car..
The Wiesman is a german interpritation of a Morgan type british sports car. Germany is still one of Morgans biggest markets. 'Gerry loves em'. Those and MG's.
Wiesmanns are epic, epic cars, up close they are just wonderful and they have the coolest company logo. 7:31, that blue speedster looks great.
dct = dualclutch transmission? if so, manuals lighter and automatet singleclutch transmission can shift faster (even though the shifting is brutal ...). also, clutchreplacment is very exepnsive on a dualclutch transmission. it's just smoother, that's about it.
I'm a fan of BMW but in the last 5 plus years they have lost their way except for the E92 M3. Thank God for small companies like Wiesmann and other small manufacturers making rear wheel drive, light weight, beautifully designed, great handling, powerful cars.
Love the Gecko Factory & would really like to work at the factory for a year, what an experience that would be.
well i like him better than chris harris. i'm not saying chris harris isn't good. i just think jethro is better. he's equally as good as richard hammond, tiff and jason plato too. that's just what i think, i'm not trying to force it on you or anything.
Unfortunately this is is the problem ... I want Nav/AC/DCT/Camera/HUD/4-seat/20"/Leather/El-Windows/1000W stereo - all of this add weight ... a lot of weight :( ... as do new security regulations ... so it's a comfy/safe car, but heavy (BMW/Audi/MB etc.) ...
The M5 is no longer the enthusiast car you thought it was, if you ever did that is. It's more so a luxury super sedan, so the weight comes from those luxury amenities and etc. You should probably be looking at the M3 if anything.
That car has Ultra tall gears and almost weighs 2 tons. You can stay in 3rd all year. Take 2 Corvettes with 400 hp. Run the Stick against the Auto the Auto will win 2 out of 3 times. In the 3600 pound Mustang GT you could not pay me to take the Auto.
Those are really nice, but yea, like he said, the interior isn't full of different materials. I guess it's because they wanted a retro look, but if i was designing that car, i think a bit of wood or stamped steel trim would've looked perfect.
I don't get why they keep saying 'retro'. Apart from the front grille it looks very modern to me.
I can understand why they went for the auto box, but I'd really prefer a manual. We've got a C55 AMG and I always prefer driving our BMW 130i because it's a manual, and it's just a more involving experience.
You're right, the auto is a shame. But it works pretty well with the paddles. The GT MF4 S - which is a bit cheaper, too - has the M3 V8 and can be had with M DCT or 6-speed manual. I really want to go back and try that one.
Yes it is a joke, but i can understand where he is coming from. It's not a copy of the Viper, but it is a very light car, with a huge amount of horsepower, and that is what makes the Viper what it is.
The United States is comprised of such a varied group of people from different nationalities and racial backgrounds that you cant generalize that. Im a Russian descended 3rd generation American and im 6'8
If you've got a 911, you wouldn't need a Wiesmann. And if you had both, the Weismann is the one going to be tucked up for the weekends. I think I'll save my 200K$ for a couple of Porsches, thank you.
Its a beautiful car, but there are two reasons why I will never own one.
1: Im broke as a joke. (obviously)
2: Im 6-10". Most German sports cars will only fit Andy Rooney comfortably.
It's called the Wiesmann Spyder. It's a recent study but not in production. It uses 420 hp engine from the bmw m3 and is desigend for tracksdays and pure driving. topspeed 290 kph
Bmw should make something like this. clearly they have the engine and chassis, yet the cars weigh too much. The m5 is fast, no doubt, but it could be so much faster if it wasnt as heavy.