Sci-Fi Special Forces comparison - 40K-Halo-Star Wars
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- In Sci fi interstellar and interplanetary warfare, elite special forces operate in the shadows, carrying out critical missions that often determine the outcome of interstellar conflicts. Among these legendary warriors are the Orbital Drop Shock Troopers (ODSTs) of the UNSC in Halo, the Tempestus Scions Warhammer 40K and the Clone Troopers of the Grand Army of the Republic in Star wars. Each group, forged in the crucible of war, exemplifies the pinnacle of military prowess, tactical acumen, and unyielding resolve. These special forces, each with their distinct heritage and tactics, share a common bond: an unwavering dedication to their cause and a readiness to face insurmountable odds. Here in this video we will assess each one of them and come up with an answer as to which is the best in comparison.
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Armor is better in 40k because carapace can protect from bolter rounds, next is star wars because specifically commando armor is better than clone armor and than odst
Weapon is correct but commandos have very cool blaster that can be changed !IN BATTLE! from standart cqc to sniper rifle and even grenade launcher
Mobility:
You should read 6 Ed codex about tempestus scions, where they were dropped from orbit ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ANYTHING but their equipment and SILENTLY captured AA guns of fortress world and then astartes conquered it.
And about jet-packs scions have these too like elysians(they even have scions as elite units in their regiments)
And tactics yeah...
40k just have more enemies
So again one-sided win for scions)
P.S. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS I think it's best comparing content about these AMAZING universes
also some Crapace armors are reinforced by adamantium inserts, that really can stop most of bolter projectile, except heavy bolter projectiles or Krak bolts
@@kovadlinka8118 even astartes power armor cannot stop those rounds
@@Stanislav292 astartes power armor is sufficiently resistant against heavy bolter projectile and can stop them, but only few of them... Krak bolts can penetrate Lemon Russ tank side armor and even terminator armor can resis only few of them
Having more enemies doesn't mean better tactics, in fact it just means more ways of being defeated. Despite this, the Zions are not after anyone, Since all the special forces mentioned are used in the same scenarios in their respective universes, that being throwing soldiers behind enemy lines and hoping they complete their mission and return alive. Otherwise, you're right
Clone commando have shielding armor, they are much stronger, intelligent and have better reflex than any standard human in 40K because they are heavely modified by the kaminoens, they are to form by mandalorian commando so they have one of the most rude, brutal and difficult formatin capable in the Pre and Clone war era. We can speak about the capacity of the clone armor who have aim assit, long range coms, HUD for map and gestion the filter the multiple types of vision like infrarouge and ultra violet vision. The weaponnery who use plasma and work like this: The projectile hurt the body+burn and after that explose for crush ur internal organ and can do 30cm of diameter hole in ferrbeton. The commando have modulaire weapon who can be an assault heavy rifle, a grenade launcher using percing grenade or HE grenade or be a sniper rifle capable of percing B2 hull who are very difficult to percing.
clearly clones commando are just a stray updage have better armor, weapon and training.
ODST the group with the lowest tech, has punched far above their tier class
ODST are mad. Don't mess with those guys.
Dropping feet first into hell
And yet guardsman fought tougher enemies than halo odst with flashlight
@whiteeye3453 and yet, it takes ten thousand of them to do what a platoon of ODST can accomplish.
@@markypangolin8063 yeach sure lie to yourself
Odst wouldn't win they would get stomped so hard they literally piss themselves to death
You did the Clone Commandos dirty by not mentioning their Katarn armour and their DC-17 integrated weapon system.
Considering by the end of the Clone Wars they were like 16 years old with like 3 years of combat experience. And the average Tempestus Scion is in his 20's with much more time training and more combat experience. And that the average ODST is in his 30s to late 40s at the end of the Human Covenant war with decades of experience .
I am not sure that is going to matter much in actual combat against veterans who know what they are doing. Considering the commonly known saying ..
"Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young."
And the Fact that.. Old warriors did not get old by accident; they got old by being wise, having the right knowledge, and being tough. Never underestimate an old man who has grown up in a rough profession or a rough environment.
Basically the old guys are probably going to whip the young Clone Troopers ass regadless of how fancy his gear is. Btw the ODSTs and Tempestus Scions have the same tech in their helmets.
ODSTs can have jetpacks though... "Bullfrog incoming!"
Hell yeah this is exactly the content I love with multiple factions, thank you 🙏. Btw did you forget that ODSTs have jet packs as well? We see it in Halo Reach.
Pilots from titanfall not being here is criminal
Dope video The only problem I see is that it's a special forces video yet you only went over standard clone armor and weapons instead of commandos or ARC troopers. I doubt they would have allowed the clone army to beat the scions but their equipment should have been mentioned.
Was going to say something similar.
1. Tempestus Scions are drop troops. They have grave-chuts (which aren’t jet packs). The Elysians aren’t more elite than them. They are normal guardsmen that can deploy like scions.
2. ODSTs can have jetpacks.
The scions do have jump pack units, also they do not have jetpacks, the elysian droptroops use gravchutes that can at best keepmthem in the air for a few minutes at most as they are used as paratoopers
I always thought stormtroopers couldn’t aim and kept falling because the empire knew nothing about handrails 😂😂
Their were only 10,000 commandos made, they were one offs. Regular clones got promoted to ARC troopers
En el caso de las armas yo se las doy a los Clones commando ya que estas son casi todas armas de plasma y tienen otras funciones.
En el caso de las armaduras se la doy a la ODST ya que esta es Semipotenciada ya que posee actuadores para ayudar en la fuerza.
En la Experiencia los Vastagos porque si se han enfrentado a una gran cantidad de enemigos Distintos y en la movilidad a los ODST porque los puedes desplegar donde quieras desde la orbita y también pueden equiparse con mochilas propulsores como los ODST en halo reach
El problema de este analisis, es que aunque se usan terminos similares, el metodo de uso no es el mismo y el poder de fuego no es el mismo a pesar de la similitud del metodo.
Empezando por armas de plasma. Aunque se usa el mismo termino, no quiere decir que tengan el mismo valor, es decir un rifle de plasma de Warhammer no es lo mismo que un rifle de plasma de Halo o el equivalente en Star Wars.
En este sentido, las armas de Plasma de Warhammer estan en un nivel muy superior, siendo utilizadas para devastar armaduras de poder y hasta Astartes y en casos excepcionales hasta siendo utilizadas como armas anti-blindaje.
Las armas de plasma de Halo son meno poderosas aunque no debiles, simplemente no pueden igualar el poder de fuego de las de Warhammer, aunque como vimos en la series siguen siendo brutales y devastadoras.
En ultimo estan las de Star Wars, que aunque todas las armas de los clones son a base de plasma, es en un nivel y un poder mucho menor, mas similar a rifles modernos, pero con mas poder y algo muy particular es la capacidad de hacer daño extra a los androides de Star Wars que son susceptibles a campos ionicos. Pero nunca hemos visto un rifle de plasma a nivel de infanteria ser usado como arma anti-blindaje o desintegrar al rival.
El arma de plasma mas similar de Star Wars a las de Halo o a las de Warhammer, son los disruptores, que como vimos en el Mandalorian si literalmente desintegran al enemigo, pero estas no son usadas convencionalmente por los ejercitos de Star Wars y hasta son prohibidos en ciertos sectores.
El punto de armadura es mas complicado y tiendo otra vez a darselo a Warhammer, por que ha demostrado ser efectivo en contra de Bolters y ciertas armas de plasma (rifles de Pulso (Induccion) de los Tau), pero yo diria que son muy similares a las armaduras tipo Katarn de los Commandos clones y las armaduras mas pesadas de otras fuerzas especiales de los clones.
Sin embargo cabe destacar que las armaduras de los ODST tienen cierta resistencia al plasma de los Covenant, asi que diria que en este sentido, los 3 estan muy cerca, como para determinar algun ganador.
Experiencia sin embargo es muy ambiguo, cada uno tiene experiencia en contra del enemigo con el que pelean y esto cambia de grupo a grupo, en esto diria yo mas bien que cada uno tiene doctrinas, tacticas y estrategias dedicadas a sus enemigos comunes, pero esto no da bono de experiencia.
@@Keemperor40K me gustó tu bastante tu "pequeño" análisis aunque las armas de plasma del imperio lanzan una cantidad mayor de plasma en una salva que otras aunque son más comparables al daño de las pistolas de plasma de Halo cuando están en modo sobrecarga ya que pueden paralizar vehículos con sus propiedades PEM y también derretir la propia armadura pesada de tanques
Aunque cabe aclarar que cuando sigo modo sobrecarga estoy diciendo que el daño de ambas armas a la hora de entrar en ese modo es igual aunque la pistola de plasma de warhammer no tiene las propiedades PEM
That's a Kasrkin in the thumbnail.
I do enjoy some high tech special forces troops in military sci fi.
You forgot to mention Kasrkin.
IG has multiple SF.
This comparisons are really weird. Why compare a 2500 year special forces to two full sci-fi fantasy universe, with two fully established galactic empire/ government for ten's of thousand of years?
It's like comparing Delta operatives of a modern army to sacred band of thebes from the greek era of fractured city-state. Tf.
ODST ODST ODST
Every faction in 40k is epic.
Star Wars was lame & gey before Disney bent George Lucas over.
I will always love my clone commandos in that beast Katarn armor. Blame delta squad from back in the day lol but tempestus are sick and should get much more love in the lore and with there own novels and its dang near impossible not to love the odsts as well which I tend to usually like even more than the Spartans for some reason
Iirc in the clone commando novels it mentions that by the tail end of the clone wars the clone trooper numbers were up to a total of appx. 3 million.
The clone commandos were about 1k before geonosis, and about 500 afterwards.
And there were only 100 alpha arcs in the beginning.
Over the war however, the republicwas forced to start backfilling positions as well, i.e. "promoting" troopers to commando.
Correct
10000 clone commando, half died on geonosis due to the jedi not knowing what to do
the scions do have a form of grav packs which allows them to drop from low orbit like the OST, so they would beat them in mobility as they could descend from high altitudes mid mission and i assume they could use it to help in reverse with climbing, though not as mobile as jetpacks
Dude you don’t know what spec forces for 40k are the scions, the Spartans and Odsts would be for halo and the Null troopers, clone commandos/ arc trooper are for the clones
I bet the Empire was pissed they didn't have clone troopers at Endor, because the plain-Jane Stormtroopers' armor was breeched by rocks and sticks, as brilliantly demonstrated by the Ewoks in Return of The Jedi.
ACcording to the book material, the arrows and rocks pierced the crevices of their armor..not to mention Ewoks are like ants, their strength is just that level.
Helldivers!!!!
The "RCs" are supreme!
The others are beyond reproach but Skirata's sons are that cut above! The Nulls, the Arcs & the Commandos.
The "Star Wars" equivalent to the Kasrkin!!!
All these special forces are amazing at what they do, but scions are next level. With the enemies they have to face comparied to these other universes and that they can succeed, scions take this pretty handily. I remember in Eisenhorn a squad of Kasrikins are deployed with Eisenhorn and a Daemon Host appears and begins to attack them, when they know their weapons are ineffective against the Daemon they just whip out their grenades and jump onto him blowing themselves up without a moment of hesitation to give Eisenhorn a chance to escape.
Unsurprising, because 40k humanity have 40 millennia or if you just count from huros heresy, 10 millennia to improve their technology.
Now, if it's Halo humanity in 10 millennia or 40 millennia from the current setting? Well, let's just say with the shoulders of Giants they are standing on, they would reach height not even the imperium of man can compare.
Now that I think about it, they would be like the Golden age of technology level by the point or surpassing that.
The commandos in legends were no joke
Scions could also be teleported into battle or where they are needed
And yeah, they have options with drop from low orbit
I would say the LAAT used by the GAR would arguably be better than drop pods because after deploying troops, the dropships/gunships can provide fire support. Even if they don't linger, they have air to ground and air to air missiles depending on variant that they can fire off on approach and as it returns to the ship it came from.
I can't wait for Super Soldiers! Space Marines for the win!
Space Marines usually just die on the battlefield.
Spartans usually wipe out armies and fleets or even entire planets like nothing.
There's a reason why the Covenant called them "Demons".
Great sci-fi VS video. The Clone commandos could have used some more screen time though. Are you interested in a sponsorship? I've emailed you with some further details.
Tempestus Scions aren't even the best SF group in the Imperium, Cadian kasirkin are more accomplished than them and the Lucifer blacks make them look like a bunch of bumbling idiot children.
Tempestuous scions are a branch of storm troopers the other y9u mentioned were a part of them are completely separate parts of the stormtrooper
In the starwar franchise its stated that the clones can sometimes be born with the ability to yous the force and thay can make clones with the abilities to yous the force on purpose. There was a story of darth vader having to fight and kill them all because the person in charge of making the force clones got drunk on power and basically betrayed vader and his master at the time.
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ODSTs bring some serious skill despite being in a position with low tech compared to their enemies
From star wars shouldn't it have bin clone commandos
Did this channel do a versus of Helljumpers and Helldivers yet? 😂
Lols. 40k.
Am for Starwars.
You should do all Starwars Legends vehicles. From the smallest to the biggest. The least firepower to the most fire power.
Factions of the Republic,
the Separatist, the Empire, the Rebellion, the New Republic, Mandalorian, the Old republic, the sith Empire.
Like the XR-85 heavy tank, for example.
That would make several videos
when I saw special forces I was more expecting Kasrkin for the 40K choice, oh well still good.
Objectively speaking, applying real-life military terms, a normal clone soldier is already superior to a Tempestus offspring, not only genetically, which would be the copy of war heroes, the Tempestus equipment is large, heavy, batteries in the back, a large weapon, low rate of fire, armor that protects, but is too heavy, it is impractical, such a soldier is only useful in a few situations, the clone armor offers everything a soldier really needs, an advanced sensor package, power of computer processing for sight and aiming, temperature regulation, full protection, a versatile weapon with a range almost as great as the artillery of the empire of man, with enough power to literally turn several soldiers to ashes. The official guides explain how the clone armor can resist that kind of shots, becoming immune to the laser, it is well known that the plastoid is almost impenetrable against solid ammunition weapons, chemical weapons, biological weapons, shrapnel... The tempestus are not bad, but they have no chance, it is like facing the red baron in his most modern plane against a well-trained pilot, whose plane has a cannon instead of a machine gun and with armor that makes it slow and unmaneuverable, there is not much opportunity.
Scions aren't slow, and their weapons don't have a low fire rate...wdym?