I fucking love how open and truthful you guys are. It's a breath of fresh air amongst all these fake naturals who think they've found some special way to train that makes it superior to everyone else's training.
I totally agree there’s intentional fake-natty deception going on, like for marketing reasons or whatever. But the criminalization and stigmatization doesn’t exactly facilitate open dialogue either. Instead of being able to study and discuss PEDs, we get split into camps based on anecdote and rumor.
I started lifting in the 80s and the whole approach has changed since then. Literally all our lifting media then was based on selling supplements and claiming they were responsible for the pro's gains. Magazines straight up told us legal supplements and the special routines they were showing us were how pro bodybuilding worked. (Other strength sports didn't get any coverage in the main media.) In the 90s there was a bit of a counter-push to try and serve non-assisted lifters. But now everything's much more honest and that's so healthy.
"If you look up to pros and you are a hard training natty who weighs like 160, you may very well be training harder than your pro." I don't know whether to take offense or be flattered, but I took it personally either way.
@PogChamp Caveat is this: at equivalent dosages, people who train harder get better results than people who train like p*ssies. They talked about this on the RP webinar when someone mentioned that AlphaDestiny claimed that drug users can train at 8 RIR and it doesn't matter.
@PogChamp no, what they're saying is part of "genetic" edge is the individuals response to gear. They're genetically superior in terms of physiology but also hormonally, most people take a lot of gear and still look like shit
If only RP, Derek, Coach Doucette and RUclips were around in the 90s, when I was growing up, to dispel so many of the myths surrounding bodybuilding. So many of us who grew up in that era were we were duped by all the muscle mags showing our favorite bodybuilders (Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Shawn Ray, etc. etc) grimacing in agony, while lifting an ungodly amount weight in photographs, giving the impression that they all trained to absolute failure on every set and that they all endured excruciating pain in order to look the way they do. This generation should feel fortunate that you have people who tell it like it is, and dismantle the façade that the bodybuilding community has been nurturing for decades
In my youtube viewing experience, the average IFBB pro walks into the gym, goes to a cable or single joint machine exercise for the muscle he's training on that particular day, does 30 reps to start warming up, chills for 45 seconds, adds weight, does 15 reps for the second warmup, chills for a minute, adds weight & does two sets of 15 with about 5 reps in the tank. He then goes to a plate loaded machine, & does 4-5 ramped sets, adding a plate each set, with the second to last one being hard & the heaviest being almost to failure or to failure. If he's good he does a backoff set. He then goes around to 4 other machines for that particular muscle group, doing something approximating 3X12 with his 20 rep max, or doing ramped sets once again with the last set to failure, 10-15 reps on everything. His last exercise averages 20 rep sets, & seems to fail more due to the pain of the pump than inability to complete another rep. He does some posing, does not stretch, & leaves the gym.
Seems to work for them though, they're the pro not you. Try not to be bitter. If they can get away with half assed work, why call them out for it? You play with the cards you're dealt.
thanks for the honesty and also TECHNIQUE failure is so under rated, like it makes a huge difference. My chest could be dead after 5 sets of pressing, but bros would say keep pressing without realising my body has to adjust to use more triceps or shoulders. That's why I've transitioned to technique failure and not exhausting myself for no reason and my muscles still going strong. wondering why I don't grow.
It helps, but do note they agree that the average pro still does better than the average gym goer, "absolutely". Don't waste the gear if you're going to accept that strain on your vitals
@ihateidz don't take yourself so seriously mate, he may not be interested in the sport and just care about fitness or powerlifting or w/e I'll never be a ballet dancer and that's totally fine
See now I understand why I burned down so much when I trained hard before pandemic. I would train until failure every single time. I would also train every damn day and I did full body. I would start with deadlifts 4x8, bench 4x8, squats 4x8, rows, pulldowns, raises, curls, etc etc. Every set until failure. I drank about a quart of whole milk every day at work (waitress). And I was strong af (relatively to now or ever before anyway). I could stand press 95 lbs for 8 reps while weighing 130lbs. But then I just lost all my strength and my bench was 95lbs now. It was very discouraging. And eventually I just stopped working out because I missed my peak numbers and lower numbers felt like a failure. I shouldn't have trained the way I trained, because it was not sustainable. This shit is hard. Thanks Dr. Mike for educating people like me. Спасибо и успехов вам, чтобы скорее купить Ламборгини =)
Love the duo approach - are you planning a video on how to program back-off sets? I've never really understood how to use them or work them in - are they an intensifying technique? auto-regulation technique? or something you build into a meso?
This question is lacking information but regardless this is a whole section in scientific principles of hypertrophy, which I highly recommend Edit, didn’t mean for this to come off as harsh or dickish
@@yourmomtwice yeah no worries! I guess I need to look into it more. I've been training unseriously for 2 years, not including lockdowns, and then seriously for about a year (properly periodising, full rom, all that good shit) but I just don't understand back off sets - I've always programmed exercises in given rep ranges with approx RIR and tracked weight on the bar and how many reps I make - how do back off sets fit into that part of progressive overload?
A back-off set is just lower weight, higher reps. You might often wanna start your workout with hitting a compound heavy (6-8 reps), but you might wanna a) keep using that movement, b) focus on the mmc to keep the tension where you want it, and c) not hurt yourself, and those things aren’t as easy to do in the heavy rep range.
It’s more useful when somebody is, say, working out of a garage with limited equipment, and/or has a big ass mrv, so they gotta do six sets of the same movement, or else they’ll use up all their movements at once and have no fresh ones for future mesos. It can also be useful if you’re working on bringing up a particular part of a given muscle group. For you, assuming you go to an averagely equipped gym, you’re prolly gonna be splitting up your chest volume (for example) evenly between upper, mid, and lower, and with 3-4 sets of each, maybe a 2nd set of one of those, we’re sitting at 12-16 sets per week, which is prolly around yeh at you’re aiming for, if you’re sitting around the average for your training age. You’re probably doing a heavy compound chest, and then a lighter chest that gets a good stretch. Preeeetty similar to back-off sets. Hope that answers!
as a hardcore Greg Doucette fan, hearing Jared talk was eye opening. It finally made me listen to your point of not needing to go to failure. However, Greg was a world record powerlifter and he says people in athletics like the olympics have to train to failure to push themselves and that might be true for performance athletes like strength athletes.
Yeah, pretty sure there is some study found that those who took steroids without even weight training gained MUCH more muscle than someone who weight trained but was natural. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Anabolics are very powerful.
i think this study was conducted on untrained individuals over a short period of time. Basically within the nueral adaptation stage of weight training were very little muscle is put on.. Not surprised if that was the result in that case.
The huge glaring issue with that study is that it measured increase in muscle size while on cycle. Gear causes a fuckload of water and glycogen weight to be added to muscles, so they look bigger even with 0 new muscle fiber adaptations. Not knocking gear, it's amazing progressing 3x faster with no ceiling, but if you have dogshit training, sleep, and diet then it's just a waste of your health. You'll just bloat+acne+ratio
No, the study measured weight gain, not muscle. When on anabolics you store more glycogen so your weigh more. It is impossible to build muscle without a stimulus
I was gonna comment but you've already been corrected, anabolics are like a multiplier but 0 times 5 is still 0. If you train like crap and don't know what you're doing, well you could have probably done that naturally with good diet and training. Now combine good diet and training with anabolics, you'll be impressed, now add crazy genetics to that mix....
I was literally just posting how I was conflicted about these guys since I haven't heard them mention anabolic before but this Jared guy is cool as fuck about it
I took every set to failure for four weeks. It was warm up, 4 sets of one exercise, treadmill, done. I actually grew. Did it every other day for a month.
Guys, I never get an answer on this, so I think most people don't know too: When applying RIR or RPE through a mesocycle, should the target RIR/RPE be complied to a all sets of a training session or are the last sets of exercises exceptions, where you should give all you have? In addition to this: Is it different when cutting down compared to when building muscle?
Target RIR for all sets. If you follow RP style periodization, your mesocycles probably end with a lot of failure training . And no same principles apply for massing/fat loss. The nuances they talk about in cutting vs massing training are more so regarding paying more attention to SFR while cutting or recognizing shifting volume needs between phases
There is no hard rule about this. But the way we do it, we generally apply the same RIR to all sets of all exercises in a given week, and increase the relative effort (reduce RIR) over the weeks. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization Oh, what a pleasure to be answered by Dr. Mike himself 😃 Thank you so much, that takes every doubt for sure. All the best for your journey ahead and BR from Germany
What about the podcast on training to failure that Iron Culture did? There, the interviewed guy argued that, as long as the weight is sufficiently heavy (something like 5 to 10 RMs), training between 4 and 7 reps from failure did not differ in its hypetrophic effects from training between 4 reps and 0 reps from failure. What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that this reading of the literature is incorrect for some reason?
8:01 this is a great perspective, and now the people who have been and are preaching this wrong fact.... seemingly having hard time admitting that they were wrong; But how will they relate to them being wrong? Will they change or defend their perspective, and if so defending it, how will they do this? I like to see how Dave, RXMuscle, like to defend this; He defend allready Ronnie and Dorians heavy way of trainin, and even state Dorian being for longevity, eventhough Dorian trained only for 1 or 2 yrs. as pro before having major injuries; And those just kept comming, both the case for Dorian and Ronnie, the 2 people who trained by the heavy duty alike principle Dave preach. How is Dave going to react to this?
i train to failure on almost every set. but i’m also an absolute beginner 6 weeks in and have almost zero responsibility beyond feeding myself. i have all the time in the world to lay around and be sore if i need to. frankly my puny muscles don’t need that much time to recover. i’m doing extraordinarily low weight.
Protip, at least leave out the grinders and failed reps. Stopping before that is an RPE 9 which is more than plenty, and actually too much in many cases. I used to do about the same thing (I still do for smaller muscles on the last set occasionally) and sure I made great progress, but those last ungodly 5 second reps causes more harm than good, especially if that isn't your last set on the last exercise of the day. So next time you are in the position where you think the rep you did was pretty hard, the bar speed was shit, but you could MAYBE get another ugly as shit rep out? Just stop.
When I got my nutrition cert it basically allows me to give info on nutrition and suggest maybe the best foods for certain goals, but unless you have a PhD in nutrition you can't tell someone exactly how to eat or how much to eat
I fucking love how open and truthful you guys are. It's a breath of fresh air amongst all these fake naturals who think they've found some special way to train that makes it superior to everyone else's training.
Thank you! We always want to make sure to give you either an honest take, or, if it breaches legal parameters, no take at all. - Dr. Mike
I totally agree there’s intentional fake-natty deception going on, like for marketing reasons or whatever. But the criminalization and stigmatization doesn’t exactly facilitate open dialogue either. Instead of being able to study and discuss PEDs, we get split into camps based on anecdote and rumor.
I started lifting in the 80s and the whole approach has changed since then. Literally all our lifting media then was based on selling supplements and claiming they were responsible for the pro's gains. Magazines straight up told us legal supplements and the special routines they were showing us were how pro bodybuilding worked. (Other strength sports didn't get any coverage in the main media.) In the 90s there was a bit of a counter-push to try and serve non-assisted lifters. But now everything's much more honest and that's so healthy.
Come for the knowledge, stay for the humor
I just come regardless
I just come because I am comming all the time, it's really fantastic.
I came for the humor but have no knowledge of it arriving
So did I and I give DR Mike 100% in both 😂😂👏👏
I'd like to see this EXACT COMMENT every video, let's go!
"If you look up to pros and you are a hard training natty who weighs like 160, you may very well be training harder than your pro." I don't know whether to take offense or be flattered, but I took it personally either way.
@PogChamp Caveat is this: at equivalent dosages, people who train harder get better results than people who train like p*ssies. They talked about this on the RP webinar when someone mentioned that AlphaDestiny claimed that drug users can train at 8 RIR and it doesn't matter.
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@PogChamp no, what they're saying is part of "genetic" edge is the individuals response to gear. They're genetically superior in terms of physiology but also hormonally, most people take a lot of gear and still look like shit
They have a better physique, so that's all that matters
@Beom Hee Kim cool story bro
I love how Jared just tells it how it is. The drugs and genetics plays a key role in what we see.
@@drewyoung7113 nobody is putting 72 pounds of muscle in their first 3 years. next to nobody, at least
@@theknowledgebridge6195 I live for extremely literal responses.
Genetics first op. Remember that.
Thanks for the dose of realism as always RP.
You are providing incredible value to the community. Thank you very much.
@@lylemcdonaldisright seethe
@@lylemcdonaldisright cringe
What's better than Mike dropping free knowledge bombs on us? Mike and Jared combo tag team
I was so happy to hear Mike and Jared made it official!! Much love and support for youtube fitness's favorite couple! 🏳️🌈👬🌈
If only RP, Derek, Coach Doucette and RUclips were around in the 90s, when I was growing up, to dispel so many of the myths surrounding bodybuilding. So many of us who grew up in that era were we were duped by all the muscle mags showing our favorite bodybuilders (Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Shawn Ray, etc. etc) grimacing in agony, while lifting an ungodly amount weight in photographs, giving the impression that they all trained to absolute failure on every set and that they all endured excruciating pain in order to look the way they do. This generation should feel fortunate that you have people who tell it like it is, and dismantle the façade that the bodybuilding community has been nurturing for decades
Dorian was probably the closest to lifting like that
Doucette.. come with your main account, coach!
U should have read a book in the 80s , and 90s maybe you would have learned more 😂 can't believe everything u see
I would listen to these two for hours on any topic, so fun and informative!
Thank you 🙏
In my youtube viewing experience, the average IFBB pro walks into the gym, goes to a cable or single joint machine exercise for the muscle he's training on that particular day, does 30 reps to start warming up, chills for 45 seconds, adds weight, does 15 reps for the second warmup, chills for a minute, adds weight & does two sets of 15 with about 5 reps in the tank. He then goes to a plate loaded machine, & does 4-5 ramped sets, adding a plate each set, with the second to last one being hard & the heaviest being almost to failure or to failure. If he's good he does a backoff set. He then goes around to 4 other machines for that particular muscle group, doing something approximating 3X12 with his 20 rep max, or doing ramped sets once again with the last set to failure, 10-15 reps on everything. His last exercise averages 20 rep sets, & seems to fail more due to the pain of the pump than inability to complete another rep. He does some posing, does not stretch, & leaves the gym.
💯
No need to stretch, ever.
That’s the RUclips stuff. No one wants a camera on them when they’re going full tilt
Sad, but true:-(.
Seems to work for them though, they're the pro not you. Try not to be bitter. If they can get away with half assed work, why call them out for it? You play with the cards you're dealt.
thanks for the honesty and also TECHNIQUE failure is so under rated, like it makes a huge difference. My chest could be dead after 5 sets of pressing, but bros would say keep pressing without realising my body has to adjust to use more triceps or shoulders. That's why I've transitioned to technique failure and not exhausting myself for no reason and my muscles still going strong. wondering why I don't grow.
Yep. Once you get your technique dialed in, you can often do pretty low volumes and get a great stimulus. - Dr. Mike
As a natural hobby strength trainee, this video about enhanced professional bodybuilding was really cool, interesting and funny.
I loved Jared’s impression at the end, plus all the great info of course.
Note to self: get on gear so I can bs my workout and go home to watch tv
Amen
I have a tv in the gym so I can be lazy while actively not being lazy
It helps, but do note they agree that the average pro still does better than the average gym goer, "absolutely". Don't waste the gear if you're going to accept that strain on your vitals
Lol, good luck. Only the top genetics in the world can get away with that
"You know they're counting miligrams..."
Just
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🤣🙏
As a brit, I am actually VERY impressed with that accent. From that small sentence, I couldn’t hear any mistakes at all
Hahahah you're too kind. - Dr. Mike
Much love from Michigan! Your videos have been so educational and helpful in my journey! Thanks for doing these!
Thank you! - Dr. Mike
I'll never be a bodybuilder, but the entertainment value is great.
@ihateidz wow edgy
@ihateidz true but chill
@ihateidz don't take yourself so seriously mate, he may not be interested in the sport and just care about fitness or powerlifting or w/e
I'll never be a ballet dancer and that's totally fine
@@gabrielepirovano3529 wtf lol
@Jo Jo +1
This discussion style video was great !
See now I understand why I burned down so much when I trained hard before pandemic. I would train until failure every single time. I would also train every damn day and I did full body. I would start with deadlifts 4x8, bench 4x8, squats 4x8, rows, pulldowns, raises, curls, etc etc. Every set until failure. I drank about a quart of whole milk every day at work (waitress). And I was strong af (relatively to now or ever before anyway). I could stand press 95 lbs for 8 reps while weighing 130lbs. But then I just lost all my strength and my bench was 95lbs now. It was very discouraging. And eventually I just stopped working out because I missed my peak numbers and lower numbers felt like a failure. I shouldn't have trained the way I trained, because it was not sustainable. This shit is hard. Thanks Dr. Mike for educating people like me. Спасибо и успехов вам, чтобы скорее купить Ламборгини =)
Love the duo approach - are you planning a video on how to program back-off sets? I've never really understood how to use them or work them in - are they an intensifying technique? auto-regulation technique? or something you build into a meso?
This question is lacking information but regardless this is a whole section in scientific principles of hypertrophy, which I highly recommend
Edit, didn’t mean for this to come off as harsh or dickish
@@yourmomtwice yeah no worries! I guess I need to look into it more. I've been training unseriously for 2 years, not including lockdowns, and then seriously for about a year (properly periodising, full rom, all that good shit) but I just don't understand back off sets - I've always programmed exercises in given rep ranges with approx RIR and tracked weight on the bar and how many reps I make - how do back off sets fit into that part of progressive overload?
A back-off set is just lower weight, higher reps. You might often wanna start your workout with hitting a compound heavy (6-8 reps), but you might wanna a) keep using that movement, b) focus on the mmc to keep the tension where you want it, and c) not hurt yourself, and those things aren’t as easy to do in the heavy rep range.
It’s more useful when somebody is, say, working out of a garage with limited equipment, and/or has a big ass mrv, so they gotta do six sets of the same movement, or else they’ll use up all their movements at once and have no fresh ones for future mesos. It can also be useful if you’re working on bringing up a particular part of a given muscle group.
For you, assuming you go to an averagely equipped gym, you’re prolly gonna be splitting up your chest volume (for example) evenly between upper, mid, and lower, and with 3-4 sets of each, maybe a 2nd set of one of those, we’re sitting at 12-16 sets per week, which is prolly around yeh at you’re aiming for, if you’re sitting around the average for your training age.
You’re probably doing a heavy compound chest, and then a lighter chest that gets a good stretch. Preeeetty similar to back-off sets. Hope that answers!
@@bearinabag2448 understood - so this would be something pre-programmed? as opposed to a way of autoregulating in response to fatigue/whatever else?
I like the Hollingshead comparison!
Lolol. You guys are the smartest dude Bros I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
Jared Feather being Boomhauer from King of the Hill is S-Tier content
I enjoyed this video setup/format
RP vids are all awesome but these with just Jared and Mike talking are my favorite 😁
We'll do more!!
@@JAREDFEATHERRP Please do ;)
Shout out for reminding everyone these coaches and trainers are out of scope with diet recommendations. Theres loop holes but still, know your role.
Elaborate?
Woah. They need a fish eye camera to get both these guys in one shot.
Renaissance Toasterization
I'll show myself out
as a hardcore Greg Doucette fan, hearing Jared talk was eye opening. It finally made me listen to your point of not needing to go to failure. However, Greg was a world record powerlifter and he says people in athletics like the olympics have to train to failure to push themselves and that might be true for performance athletes like strength athletes.
Didn’t know y’all were in Michigan. Shoutout from Wisconsin. Y’all got the best content and bud!
Yeah, pretty sure there is some study found that those who took steroids without even weight training gained MUCH more muscle than someone who weight trained but was natural. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Anabolics are very powerful.
i think this study was conducted on untrained individuals over a short period of time. Basically within the nueral adaptation stage of weight training were very little muscle is put on.. Not surprised if that was the result in that case.
The huge glaring issue with that study is that it measured increase in muscle size while on cycle. Gear causes a fuckload of water and glycogen weight to be added to muscles, so they look bigger even with 0 new muscle fiber adaptations.
Not knocking gear, it's amazing progressing 3x faster with no ceiling, but if you have dogshit training, sleep, and diet then it's just a waste of your health. You'll just bloat+acne+ratio
No, the study measured weight gain, not muscle. When on anabolics you store more glycogen so your weigh more. It is impossible to build muscle without a stimulus
I was gonna comment but you've already been corrected, anabolics are like a multiplier but 0 times 5 is still 0. If you train like crap and don't know what you're doing, well you could have probably done that naturally with good diet and training. Now combine good diet and training with anabolics, you'll be impressed, now add crazy genetics to that mix....
This is the most interesting video I've watched in God knows how long! Thanks a ton guys!
Thank you
I was literally just posting how I was conflicted about these guys since I haven't heard them mention anabolic before but this Jared guy is cool as fuck about it
You must be new, they're very open about enhancement
The training to failure thing going to hurt some egos 🤣
I took every set to failure for four weeks. It was warm up, 4 sets of one exercise, treadmill, done. I actually grew. Did it every other day for a month.
Yeah that’s kinda how strength training works 😂
God, this was enormously encouraging.
Thanks for the RD love!!!
Sincerely,
-A Dietitian
Hey I’m from Missouri!!
British person here. You nailed it
A guy I talked to at the gym jokingly said, "I'll do a couple sets and let the test do the rest."
Yeah its true. Without the test, they would look normal
Thanks for the insight!
Guys, I never get an answer on this, so I think most people don't know too: When applying RIR or RPE through a mesocycle, should the target RIR/RPE be complied to a all sets of a training session or are the last sets of exercises exceptions, where you should give all you have? In addition to this: Is it different when cutting down compared to when building muscle?
Target RIR for all sets. If you follow RP style periodization, your mesocycles probably end with a lot of failure training . And no same principles apply for massing/fat loss. The nuances they talk about in cutting vs massing training are more so regarding paying more attention to SFR while cutting or recognizing shifting volume needs between phases
@@kylepacioni Thank you so much! Searched for an answer on this a long time. Have a good day!
Personally I decrease rir by one at the last set of almost every exercise as I follow an upper and lower
There is no hard rule about this. But the way we do it, we generally apply the same RIR to all sets of all exercises in a given week, and increase the relative effort (reduce RIR) over the weeks. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization Oh, what a pleasure to be answered by Dr. Mike himself 😃 Thank you so much, that takes every doubt for sure. All the best for your journey ahead and BR from Germany
Love this segment
More of this please 👌🏼
Dope Video! More of this please!
Damn I would like to fly to USA and go through a few weeks of training with you guys!
How about natural bodybuilders? Would love to hear your take
lol a what?
@@pioneerrocket22 what's confusing about that?
@@pioneerrocket22 same topic but about natural bodybuilders
@@Bryant_T I meant it as a joke 😉
Mostly the same dynamic. - Dr. Mike
Mike "looking like a toaster" is something I can't unhear. Hilarious!
🤘🏾😎🤘🏾
Most straight up no fluff or bull.
Didn’t think it was possible
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No bull fluffing….not one bull was fluffed in the making of this video.
How should Mike get rid of the water?
Im from England, your (southern) British accent was good!
11:45 better than the information is to watch these 2 nervous tics!
Haha. They're just genetic ticks. Got em from my mama, and these huge calves
@@JAREDFEATHERRP You're the man!
I thoroughly enjoyed this. thanks, gais
I could listen to these two for hours.
5:47 “I’ve seen that frequently” *side-eyes Mike* Man, Jared just won’t give Mike a break for sand bagging all the time 😂😂
LOVE the videos like this
Puts things into perspective, thanks sharing the chat
Dr. Mike is looking great!!!
Dat's my coach man 🥺
Hearts. Heart eyes. Hugs.
Thank you for another great video:)
Loved this!!
And we see the real genius trait where both Mike and Big Lenny have the same eyebrow twitch
What about the podcast on training to failure that Iron Culture did? There, the interviewed guy argued that, as long as the weight is sufficiently heavy (something like 5 to 10 RMs), training between 4 and 7 reps from failure did not differ in its hypetrophic effects from training between 4 reps and 0 reps from failure. What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that this reading of the literature is incorrect for some reason?
Shit I have ice cream in my fridge I forgot about. Thanks guys
Dr. Mike - "Can you speak Derpa lerp?" Jared - Hold my protein shake.
I am an RD 😃
Oh snap! Did not know that! That's really awesome man
8:01 this is a great perspective, and now the people who have been and are preaching this wrong fact.... seemingly having hard time admitting that they were wrong; But how will they relate to them being wrong? Will they change or defend their perspective, and if so defending it, how will they do this?
I like to see how Dave, RXMuscle, like to defend this; He defend allready Ronnie and Dorians heavy way of trainin, and even state Dorian being for longevity, eventhough Dorian trained only for 1 or 2 yrs. as pro before having major injuries; And those just kept comming, both the case for Dorian and Ronnie, the 2 people who trained by the heavy duty alike principle Dave preach. How is Dave going to react to this?
Can you make a video of getting lean for the first time for people who haven’t successfully been able to do it
I want to try the 4 weeks train till failure.
Just take care of your joints homie
My sleep went to complete shit and my mood/energy throughout each day crashed hard when I went through my training to failure phase lol
@@sungameloc job long did you do it for?
More videos like this!
Cool talk. Dr. Mike's accent wasn't English but the end was Scottish. So close geographically yet so far culturally
bro are you natural?
Yesssss! Go Jared!
this stuff is so interesting, good video
May I suggest having Jared a little closer to the microphone? Mike sounds a fair bit louder than him at times.
This was great! thanks
Want more of this!
I'd listen to this topic on a 3 hour podcast no problem
i train to failure on almost every set. but i’m also an absolute beginner 6 weeks in and have almost zero responsibility beyond feeding myself. i have all the time in the world to lay around and be sore if i need to. frankly my puny muscles don’t need that much time to recover. i’m doing extraordinarily low weight.
Protip, at least leave out the grinders and failed reps. Stopping before that is an RPE 9 which is more than plenty, and actually too much in many cases. I used to do about the same thing (I still do for smaller muscles on the last set occasionally) and sure I made great progress, but those last ungodly 5 second reps causes more harm than good, especially if that isn't your last set on the last exercise of the day.
So next time you are in the position where you think the rep you did was pretty hard, the bar speed was shit, but you could MAYBE get another ugly as shit rep out? Just stop.
BuT mY HaRdWorK aND dEdiCaTIon
Glad someone spoke on how 😺 a lot of pros train
Yes, yes. Many pros do in fact train like yellow cats. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization fucking lol
this is why I watch this fucking channel. honesty! thanks for the great content y'all, I benefit a ton from it.
8:50 😂
Hahaha. Our pleasure. Thanks for watching!!
Triggered by meat in oz and carbs in g.
Cool video though.
You guys are awesome!!!
Great insight!
ive done every set to failure for years. it definately isnt optimal and probably even hindered progress but ive done it
I live in Livonia mi I would like to get educated on my training from RP
Great time to be alive at the same time as Dr. Mike.
Finally a real take. Drugs and genetics do most the work
Please where is Charlie? We miss him
Mike is hilarious!!
I'd like to see skits@
When I got my nutrition cert it basically allows me to give info on nutrition and suggest maybe the best foods for certain goals, but unless you have a PhD in nutrition you can't tell someone exactly how to eat or how much to eat
Some of these guys don't even need huge doses to grow either. Such is life!
Yup. Another cool part of genetics! "Handling the burden"
Thanks for sharing #Knowledge 🤟🔥 Love and respect from India sir ❤🙏
3:19 there you go, have fun
Duuuude where in MI are you guys located!?!? I'm in Southeast MI myself..it'd be dope to check out the facility!!
One of the better English accents on this platform
Yeah I would love the workout but not going to Michigan. Did that once. Everyone was miserable and was making me the same way.
Where at in Michigan?