@@JeffreyWillis800 I noticed that as well and I noticed that language in all the memos from the Trump admin people. The email we got about getting rid of the DEIA programs was filled with similar kinds of things like calling those programs shameful etc. Not very professional
The wording and tone of many of these memos are straight out of 1938 Germany. The DEIA memo in particular was threatening retribution if you don't turn on your coworkers.
@@ChillWill-q5x I don’t understand the hate for telework, please explain. Telework has made life easier for so many (especially parents) and it helps reduce CO2 emissions
@@ChillWill-q5xI work at a large depot in Utah. They torn down our 1940 era buildings and can't build new buildings fast enough. It is hilarious watching management throw their hands in the air...I am glad I retire in 11 months.
@@ChillWill-q5xwe’ve been teleworking part time since long before Covid. I’ve been there 15 years & have teleworked part time since after 1 year probation. Same arrangement now. This is not new to Covid.
In that order, they interchange the words, telework and remote work those are two different schedules.. Some people don’t have an office to go back to. Also the 50+ hours a week you put in at home is a lot easier to do when you’re not commuting two hours each way
So our organization is scrambling because we have the opposite problem. I work at a USAF Depot in Utah with 23,000 civilian and military employees. Over the past 4 years the base has torn down multiple 1940 era buildings. They are not building new buildings fast enough. Currently, we are hot desking two times a week in order to have everyone come in two times per week...we are also working a 5-4-9 schedule. Our management has thrown their hands in the air as they don't know how to implement this new policy. I retire at the end of the year, so it is interesting to watch all the frustration. With the hiring freeze, and the potential to terminate our new hires, I have already been asked about my upcoming retirement.... We are already slammed and I can't imagine taking on any additional workload. Bottom line...not one size fits all. Our management should have the ability to make decisions based upon their lack of resources.
@@johngrubb5486 I know people in the VA who are also seeing the circus in action. Sad part is that many vets will be affected. So much for being the party that supports the troops.
Since this is only the start of the storm directed at Federal employees, and I expect things to get worse. Please touch on the following. #1 --- The protections Federal employees who have been with the gov't for more than 3 years get and how it pertains to involuntary termination in general and under RIF? #2 --- The protections Federal employees get from being part of the union and covered under a Collective Bargaining Agreement and how it pertains to involuntary termination in general and under RIF? #3 --- The additional protections the disabled are afforded AND veterans with veterans' preference (5pt and 10pt). I am a veteran w/ 5pt veterans' preference. And for what it is worth, I earned that with years of my life in service to this country. [note, my skills are good so I am not worried about that aspect but there is general contempt for gov't employees, so I like to know what protections are available.]
Yes all of our field offices were downsized to the point where there is no room for all of us despite the fact that we are still significantly understaffed
well, maybe you shouldn’t have done that knowing there’s a headquarters where you have to go to work. don’t get me wrong, i’m not unsympathetic but some employees have been out of control for a while. i know one guy that works in another state and still gets paid by our office for full time work.
@@omarlocke4351 in most cases it was better for everyone involved to work remotely. Ie...USDA inspectors could live close to the farms they inspected and go in the office once a month. And the office could be more than 50 miles away. So how is going back in better for everyone?
@ oh!? so you’re saying it’s a perfect practice!? and many inspectors live nowhere near their sites. you and i both know that. more often than not people are abusing the system. talk to them for doing that. double and triple dipping especially some retirees. it’s disgusting. i’m not saying don’t get yours but you know the kind of people i’m talking about abusing things taking it way too far getting tvs and new furniture every year to maintain budget and WORSE! anyone whose worked ina federal office can detail some horror stories
Still trying to understand what happens to fully remote workers who have no office and whose duty station is their home. Do we just go to the nearest federal building, even if it's not for our agency? If so, how would anyone even know we're there if our boss lives in another state?
This is the same question I have. The only thing is that that second part that talks about "If your duty station is more than 50 mi away from an agency facility then you have to find one closer or move there or something," which seems to take into account the fact that for a lot of the remotes their duty station is their house
Your answer is in this video and specifically in the memo. Those people go to an office in their commuting area. Get ready for new leases from one agency to the next for office space! 😂
I have a friend in the same situation - she supports the VA in Texas and lives in VA. Her manager is seeking clarification but can't give her any guidance yet. She was hired as a remote worker - there is no place for her to return to.
My manager said today that our agency is probably going to be business as usual. The memo feels like it’s a public front. There’s no way to enforce this anytime soon. We don’t have space, most employees are bargaining unit, and the others have managers and teams across the country.
That’s what most people don’t realise federal agencies have been closings offices to save money. So everyone can’t even fit in one building at the same time Telework is here to stay
This is why people are frustrated. Federal employees are supposed to be public servants, but your comment drips with entitlement. Federal employees shouldn't even be allowed to have a union. And, there is a very simple way to enforce this order. You return to work, or you lose your job.
@ Did you get your tax refund? Were your services delayed? Do you have roads to drive on? Ever got a student loan? Have kids in public school? What about an FHA mortgage? All these people who support the public have worked from home before it was popular during COVID. Since 2010 mins you. Your anger should be at your President who’s proposing to sell government buildings to privately equity firms to then be turned around and leased back to the government. Mind you that’s with your tax dollars, but you don’t sound educated enough to be in a bracket where you even pay them. Your ignorance and frustration are misplaced.
So glad I retired from the Government. These knuckleheads are going to see a deluge of retirements, private sector losses and of course those losses will be the brightest and best. This is the 21st century and times are changing. The smart employers will look at this as a new norm and get the best employees. Just dumb and for no reason.
Not to mention the "brain drain" which will result in all agencies as well knowledgeable long time workers will retire and take their knowledge with them.
It's not an issue for me but where do we perform our duties if there isn't any place to work on site? People can complain and want federal workers to return to work but haven't provided the space to return to. Make it make sense.
The OPM memo is filled with lies, misleading citations, and propaganda. It's disgusting that OPM has sunk this low. And disgusting that telework is being ended for literally no reason.
the reason is to get people to quit lol. the private sector ( the majority of Americans ) are tired of a bloated public sector stealing hard earned revenue from taxes and then wasting it. with AI and automation i would argue 75% AT LEAST of all remote federal work could be cut without any operational problems.
@ Obviously, Musk literally said that. What agencies specifically do you want to see the workforce cut? The ones dealing with food and drug safety, collecting taxes, ensuring national defense, ensuring your drinking water is safe? What evidence do you have that federal agencies are "stealing" and "wasting" "hard earned revenue from taxes? Have you ever worked a government job? With what factual basis would you make that argument? Have you ever used AI? It's definitely not ready for prime time ubiquitous use yet except, perhaps, in very specific jobs. Why do you target remote jobs specifically? If you work in an office on a computer, you can do that job literally anywhere you have a laptop and an internet connection.
There are a lot of federal workers that are remote and not working. They have multiple jobs and businesses while on the federal clock. They are at home full time and not working. Some don't respond or check email and some of their managers are doing the same. Customers and constituents have complained as they have to go thru multi levels of telephone prompts and are not often even able to leave a voicemail within certain agencies. There have been incidents where FEMA employees didn't respond to emergencies, stating that their offices are on remote work schedules, etc. Folks already have a bad perception that "government" workers don't work and then there are those that are abusing the system and spoiling it for everyone. While I'm in office 5 days a week, I've seen employees abuse their telework usage just to stay at home and wait for a repair man to fix their appliance, etc. In a past job I was a remote worker. I stayed near the computer and cell to do my job. Yes, there were times that I would step away for an hour or so, but my supervisor was always aware of what I was doing. I was just talking to a co-worker today about how in private industry, the bottom line is the driving force and they cut a lot of the bureaucracy out of their processes, to speed up the processes to ensure better efficiencies. In some government agencies things require 20 signatures for approval. Factor in any of those 20 persons going on leave for several days (or weeks) or it get's buried down in their email and you can see how things move at a snails pace.
I oppose anyone who opposes remote work because it’s just part of a general opposition to workers rights. It makes no sense from a practical standpoint to do a blanket elimination of remote work. I personally prefer a hybrid system which is what most people have been doing for years now. I think that a 50/50 split strikes the right balance. Sometimes it’s beneficial to collaborate in person and sometimes those in person interactions are disruptive and keep you from getting your work done. Sometimes it’s highly beneficial to have someone who can work late or start early because they don’t have to commute, and it’s far easier to cover shifts if people are able to work while traveling, disabled, ill, etc. Federal workers are being used as pawns in a cynical ploy because it’s been acknowledged that the real reason they’re doing this is to get people to quit.
@@Yohoo272some people abuse it, yes that does happen. Others are efficient and can finish projects faster, that would other wise not be incentivized to do so in person. Or, it's a reactive job like help desk, etc. instead of blanket assumptions, having a way to track that works is actually being done and it's also quality work.
@ it’s not a blanket assumption. I worked for the Government and saw it with my own eyes. 75% or better abuse the system. It’s nearly impossible to fire them.
I am a remote federal employee. My official duty station is my home address. I am responsible for visiting Veteran’s in an assigned territory which is outside of 50 miles from a VA facility. I am curious how this is going to play out for me??? Of note, my supervisor is in California and I am in Arizona. Our headquarters is in Utah.
Depends on the work. Our call center requires you to be on the phone, we managers can see everyone's que, we also have specific metrics you must meet daily, weekly, and quarterly. So it didn't matter where you worked as long as you were connected to the VPN.
The thing is just because you’re not in the office doesn’t mean you’re working any more or less. Productivity has been the same or higher for remote work which is WHY it wasn’t cut off after COVID. Management was so scared of it pre COVID and then once it hit they realized that work carried on as usual without skipping a beat (if you didn’t have work that requires you to be there in person). Let’s be realistic, before covid no one could get in touch with HR anyway so having them work at home was pretty much the same as having them in office…I digress..No one is thinking about that most government employees are adults and behave as such. Of course you have your outliers but overall this is all based PERCEPTION and NOT reality and I really hate that. So what if someone is at home working in their day time pajamas. The work is being done. I’ve worked remote and it’s been a godsend for my family and finances and I usually work even more cause I have flexibility. Most people work harder in those type of positions cause they want to keep the privilege than going into the office everyday (it really isn’t necessary in most office jobs. I really liked the hybrid approach as well cause you can work but not have to deal with depressing work environments, commutes, pointless water cooler convos, annoying boss/coworkers, harassment issues, etc. it was a good balance of work and life.
@@Yohoo272 it is true for many, my team of system admins is small but we squeeze out more work hours not having to deal with commuting... I have no problem working late if need be while teleworking but my days in the office I'm out as soon as my shift is up to deal with traffic so I can see my wife and kids. I honestly get disrupted way more in office than I do at home behind my locked door.
This is beyond idiotic! Most workers or even all federal workers have return to the office in some capacity. This isn’t a return to work, this is a take away of an alternative work schedule that was already in place way before Covid. Congress and unions need to step up
@@ChillWill-q5x Please learn the difference between remote and telework if you want to be taken serious as a troll...lol That must be that new common core math because per OMB about 54% of the entire federal workforce can't telework at all. Since you are not a fed, you do not realize that there are a vast number of fed jobs like doctors, nurses, aids, mental health professionals, janitorial staff and maintenance staff, security, police etc etc etc that obviously cannot and do not telework. Only 10% of the total workforce are remote and many aren't "still" working remotely. They were hired as a remote employee and have never worked in an office smh
This will cost the Fed govt (us taxpayers) millions of dollars more of taxpayer money. New space will have to be leased as federal agencies reduced their office space over the last 6-7 years…many agencies have shared cubicles/offices that are occupied by different people on different days of the week depending on their telework schedule. So, there is not enough space for everyone to RTO. Then, on top of the cost of leasing more office space, more people will be receiving the transportation subsidy-a max of $280/month for using public/mass transit.
It's hard to know how this will impact people based on the individual agreements. My understanding is that NTEU (National Treasury Union) recently entered into a 5-year contract to retain its current telework practices. I think most telework employees covered by the NTEU have to go into the office once a week (or twice a pay period). I wouldn't think a Memorandum would give any authority to change that contract, and it may instead require a law by congress.... but that's just my assumption/understanding. I could be totally wrong.
I saw this on Reddit as a comment; I do not know if it’s accurate: “EO can't violate an act of congress which the Federal Service Labor-Management Relations is and that's what federal CBAs fall under”
That is my understanding too. Generally, an Executive Order, government wide rule, etc does not defeat a CBA. It would require an act of Congress to nullify a CBA provision. Above all, seek advice from your union's attorney and as always "work now grieve later".
Good! Finally, some common sense. Most of our HR department, the head of human relations, finance, training, etc… work from home. They are not available for meetings nor answer their phones when you call them. It’s become a huge problem!
The Presidential Memo specifically stated "executive branch of Government". Has this changed and is this now applicable to all branches and all agencies of the federal government?
Just look at who signed the order.... A convicted felon who actually admitted to grabbing women by the .... Privates... Who calls veterans suckers and losers.... Incited and actual riot. Need we say more?
Canceling remote work could significantly harm the workforce for several reasons. First, remote work has proven to enhance work-life balance by offering employees flexibility, which leads to higher job satisfaction and overall well-being. Forcing employees back into the office might cause stress, burnout, and dissatisfaction, especially for those who have adjusted to the convenience of working from home. Furthermore, agencies will need to pay for office space, utilities, cleaning services, maintenance, and office supplies. The cost can quickly add up, especially in large cities with expensive real estate. Some businesses might even need to lease or renovate larger spaces to accommodate a full in-person workforce.
I live in DC and alot of my clients are Federal, one told me that they're planning on monitoring who isn't doing much and try and get rid of them. One told me one man used to read the paper all day. Another said a woman would nap in the library. Both agreed that there is a level of that happening. That wouldn't happen in Private Sector. They would be gone
My question is what is the difference between an Executive Order (EO) and Presidential Memorandum (PM)? The Return to Work was identified as a PM and not an EO. Could this difference affect the outcome for remote work?
I'm retired now, but I'm pretty sure telework policy was part of the negotiated agreement with the union, and that's likely replicated at most facilities across the country. Wondering if executive orders can override those agreements.
Not sure it matters. We have a convicted felon as president who's ordering this. I fully assume many illegal things will happen and court cases will lag behind dor years. His schedule F employees for any policy making positions are to be fired without due process.... There won't be time to figure out what's legal.
@@rickyrydell Congress tried to pass a return-to-work law in 2023 (I think) and it went through the house, but the Senate never brought it up for a vote, so it did not pass. I believe the contracts would require a new law to be passed by congress in order to nullify an employment agreement before it expires.
Seems like glaring evidence for why private unions are a conflict of interest with government employment. Save some screams for when that issue gets addressed, probably really soon. 🙂
Thank God it took me a year and a half to get a mental health appointment at the Va. Once I got in 6 months ago I found out my doctor works in office once a week ... geez no wonder
@@brett.c1649 that’s more of a staffing/scheduling issue not telework problem. It’s hard for the government to retain talented doctors so a lot are short staffed.
I work in the DOD. We only have to be in office one day a week currently. I prefer to be in office and have been 5-days a week so this doesn’t really hurt me, but some of my coworkers aren’t happy.
@@ChillWill-q5x just like anything you will have some bad apples. But I can honestly say, my coworkers are some of the hardest working, most ethical people I know….whether in the office or not!
My duty station is HOME. I have telework agreement that is apart of the collective bargaining agreement with the union - a legal binding contract. Remote work will not be ending for everyone. Sorry, Donald.
Remote work and telework are different. I believe telework is guaranteed by Federal law. Also if the order violates union bargaining agreements it may be overruled by a court.
No, not by Federal Law, it's just an agreement between management and the union, our situation is unique in that we went fully remote (duty station is our home) not because of COVID but because the Federal facility we were in was heavily contaminated with lead, asbestos, and 86 other different things, so after that was leaked, they shut it down. But then they spent $20 million on a new 20 year lease in our downtown area and nobody has yet to occupy half of it, but it's also not big enough to bring everyone back in either....
The government customer service representatives, especially black women, be home all rude and disrespectful with their thousands of kids in the background screaming and cursing up a storm, while on calls with customers. No husband to be found. They need to be forced into the office. But you know what they’ll say “I ain’t goin even have no childcare no mo” 🙄 smh
We couldn’t get our collective bargaining agreement done in time and outgoing chairman didn’t want to sign it prior to the new administration taking office.
“The department will cancel all existing telework arrangements, except for situational telework, on March 1, and remote workers are expected to return to in-person work by July 1.”
@@melodygeo5951 as far as I understand it... my union contract will prevent a mandated return to work unless it's done via congress. Trumps memo doesn't empower agencies to go against the terms of the bargaining agreements. Or am I missing something?
Very interesting this hit my feed. Just chatted with my ex-Director about TW. Too bad our office showed an 23% increase in product ability during COVID times that allowed our office to continue TW. The key was in the rules and controls set in place. Sad there are just different area's, and programs due to the inability for a standardized TW agreement. At times, it's a good thing.
It's called a reasonable accomodation. You'd need to ask your agency for the RA form. A scheduling A appointment is no help. You need to document why you need a medical accomodation to work from home.
Im guessing the goal of this is to try and get as many people to quit as possible. That's what I would do, its hard to fire them, easy to make their job suck so bad they quit. Its clear one of the goals of the administration is a drastic reduction in the federal workforce.
Elon said as much and this probably came at his recommendation: "Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome"
Same old tricks. The high performers leave. The dead weight stays. Then they scramble to hire hire hire all the positions again realizing no one was sitting in a basement coddling a stapler.
@@lightynide Elon is incredibly ignorant with how the government works. You would have to get rid of the retirement benefits, the PSLF program, the healthcare coverage, the annual and sick leave, paid parental leave, and lower wages to a point where the misery of the work isn't worth it. Federal workers are going to hang on because of this. Literally hanging on for dear life.
So i have a question, what if there is no space to return..we already rotate in the office but not everyone will be able to come in everyday of the week..also, the building doesnt have the space, another department tried to take our office because they needed the space
They are goning to expect alot of quits. Govt is way too big and ineffective. many of you work hard but others have caused this gaming the system ect..
Exactly! Our HQ only has room for half of the assigned employees. We got rid of our satellite offices. I guess we’ll have to bring in lawn chairs and sit in the hallways. 😊
Our agency also canceled leases that were in the millions every year, saving taxpayers from paying leases and maintenance and security on those buildings. Now there isn’t enough office space to go to.
Our office is dilapidated as if it were the old Oakland coliseum. Falling apart... Substandard 1960s plumbing... Asbestos... 😂😂😂 Not gonna return there anytime soon.... Good try Convict 47.
Seriously? You’re posting on YT that you don’t have enough work to keep you busy for the hours that you’re being paid for? And you wonder why the taxpayers are pissed and want reform.
I dont think there should be executive and legislative nononfor agencies collective bargaining terms that require congressional approval. Work from home and the ability to fire employees with cause terms should be one of them. If a elected executive doesnt have the ability to cleanup broken government and its outside the preview of other branches this is not a citizen lead government its a litteral oligarchy. But ill be satisfied if the inions fight any of this and it can be determined at the SCOTUS level. There are no checks from my view as just a common peasant... I mean the citizen seat here.
As a public servant, I don’t mind going into the office full-time. It’s disappointing to call federal agencies and not have anyone answer the call, and it takes several days for people to return my voicemail if they even return my voicemail. It’s kind of like people who are honest don’t mind being investigated as there is nothing to hide, whereas dishonest people will fight to stop any investigation. Let’s get to work for the American people.
That does NOT even make sense, and I question if you are truly employed by the Federal government. Every Federal phone line can be directed to a federal employee whether they are in a federal building or from their home office. The location of the employee has NOTHING to do with someone answering a call. The monitoring software tools are robust when utilized. The push for "back to the office" is anger, bitterness, jealousy and punishment from those who are in occupations that cannot be done remotely.
I do work for the American people - every day. The production and quality metrics by which my job performance is evaluated do not change, regardless of where I sit while achieving them. Your vague accusation that Federal employees don't work seem short-sighted, at a minimum, and quite questionable.
Not all government workers work phone lines and are public facing. Those who aren’t in the public service sector barely have phones. Since covid, we either use Microsoft teams, government issued cell phone or personal phones for communication..so other than certain meetings or needed face to face interactions you can most definitely work from home as we weren’t even issued phones.
@@Rosetta_Stoned-w5s I totally agree with you. I have been working 1 day a week at the office and my service is exactly the same as when I work from home, in fact from home is even better service without the interruptions.
Its going to be hard to get a judge to go along with a lawsuit to throw out trumps return to office mandates. That would essentially give federal employees the power to dictate to a president WHERE they will work. A democrat president wont want to be burdened with that down the road either. It would severely weaken every presidents authority in the future to allow fed workers to dictate WHERE they will work. Or IF THEY will show up for work.
It wouldn’t be employees dictating anything. It would be the President honoring existing contracts and the law. Federal employees have never had their benefits rescinded by a particular administration before.
Yeah, so the unelected federal employees telling the elected officials what policy should be. Sounds like a problem? Oh wait, this is the exact issue that contributed to trump winning. An expensive unelected federal bureaucracy with 0 accountability. They must have not gotten the message clearly the comments here suggest they do understand many of them will not being working for the federal government by 2026.
@@amarasunflower6914This was one of the major platform issue Trump ran on. You are telling me that the majority of the American people, congress, and the president cannot dictate policy? Most of us want 90 percent of the federal government terminated with no severance and the pension rescinded.
@amarasunflower6914 if the president cannot even dictate where federal employees work, then that essentially means federal employees are self employed and do not work for the president. I'm not saying what trumps doing is right or wrong. I'm just saying its undisputable a president has the authority to tell federal employees where they will work.
@@Redman6522Well that won’t happen. Sorry you hate us so bad but need us at the same time…This is coming from a IT specialist with an outstanding performance review while teleworking and in office. I’m not going anywhere.
Why should federal workers get to work from home, when most Americans can’t? Get back into the office or find work somewhere else. What a bunch of leaches.
A lot of industries have work from home policies and the government adopted it because technology allows it and it’s keeping up with the times. This is 2025, not 1925..people can and DO achieve a lot virtually.
Some agencies already have recently within the past year signed collective bargaining agreements which will remain in place until 2029 so... There will be no bearing as long as this nimrod is in office. Thanks for voting him in y'all. Way to go. Play dumb games get appropriate prizes 😂
Set your alarm, get out of bed, clean up, get dressed, get your 6 out the door and get your butt to work on time That’s at your station at the start of your days. And work! Not rocket science. Maybe, that needs to be couched in these terms "OR ELSE YOU AUTOMATICALLY RESIGN. "
The problem is the office leasing is wayyyyy overpriced taxpayers are getting screwed with gov employees working in the office it’s actually saving massive amounts of money due to remote and telework agreements btw most people slack off in the office I would have countless people standing around talking all day instead of working remote work and telework is tracked immensely
No, some agencies were 80% or more teleworking prior to Covid. They don't interact with clients, and are in front of a computer up to 13 hours a day reviewing electric paperwork.
Just because where you work sucks ass doesn't mean we should have to do the same. In office 5 days a week is antiquated and should only be reserved for those who either have to go in to perform job functions and for those moments that deem it necessary.
The only people potentially losing their jobs atm was the ones who actually ran the offices that adminsitered DEI. Your coworkers are still likely protected although I believe they are trying to pass more laws to make it easier to fire government employees for bad performance.
I'm a retired federal employee. While working, I did what my boss told me, when he told me! I think some of these liberal employees that are union members don't think that they should have to do anything that's not their idea!
Not all of them are liberal. Some happily voted for trump and would do it again. However as remote federal employee working for corps of engineers and excellent performance reviews for years who's lab is in another state with spouse and kids it's not so simple as you paint it.
LOL….MOST federal employees are automatically union members even if you don’t pay dues. Tell me you really never worked for the government without telling me you never really worked for the government.
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The OPM memo wasn't very professional, seemed to be written by someone with an ax to grind.
@@JeffreyWillis800 I noticed that as well and I noticed that language in all the memos from the Trump admin people. The email we got about getting rid of the DEIA programs was filled with similar kinds of things like calling those programs shameful etc. Not very professional
Ok. I thought it was just me.
It’s hard to write a memo when the source has vague explanations
I thought to and I even mentioned that very thing to several of my coworkers and my supervisor. They all agreed!!
The wording and tone of many of these memos are straight out of 1938 Germany. The DEIA memo in particular was threatening retribution if you don't turn on your coworkers.
Remote work and telework aren’t the same thing. Someone should clarify this at some point.
If a facility existed before Covid for your job, then you need to return to it. Stop the BS.
@@ChillWill-q5x I don’t understand the hate for telework, please explain. Telework has made life easier for so many (especially parents) and it helps reduce CO2 emissions
@@ChillWill-q5xI work at a large depot in Utah. They torn down our 1940 era buildings and can't build new buildings fast enough. It is hilarious watching management throw their hands in the air...I am glad I retire in 11 months.
@@ChillWill-q5xwe’ve been teleworking part time since long before Covid. I’ve been there 15 years & have teleworked part time since after 1 year probation. Same arrangement now. This is not new to Covid.
In that order, they interchange the words, telework and remote work those are two different schedules.. Some people don’t have an office to go back to. Also the 50+ hours a week you put in at home is a lot easier to do when you’re not commuting two hours each way
So our organization is scrambling because we have the opposite problem. I work at a USAF Depot in Utah with 23,000 civilian and military employees. Over the past 4 years the base has torn down multiple 1940 era buildings. They are not building new buildings fast enough. Currently, we are hot desking two times a week in order to have everyone come in two times per week...we are also working a 5-4-9 schedule. Our management has thrown their hands in the air as they don't know how to implement this new policy. I retire at the end of the year, so it is interesting to watch all the frustration. With the hiring freeze, and the potential to terminate our new hires, I have already been asked about my upcoming retirement.... We are already slammed and I can't imagine taking on any additional workload. Bottom line...not one size fits all. Our management should have the ability to make decisions based upon their lack of resources.
@@johngrubb5486 I know people in the VA who are also seeing the circus in action. Sad part is that many vets will be affected. So much for being the party that supports the troops.
The private sector is going to have a field day having their pick of employees with prepaid $100k clearances.
Doubt it.
Really? This is why people should research and gain an understanding of the issues before voting.
Apparently you haven’t seen the state of the job market aside from a select few fields like nursing.
@@Slowly_We_Rot DoD Aviation try again.
Yeah but the former Federal employees will be pissed because they will now have to work.
I hope the union grow a back bone and opens a lawsuit if those bargaining agreements are violated
Unions in government are a conflict of interest, expect that to be addressed quite soon also. 🙂
@@ChillWill-q5xsays somebdy who never worked for the government hush the noise
AFGE is hot garbage
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@@ChillWill-q5xlol 😂😂😂😂😂 Unions got us our 5 day work week... Go away now!!!!
Since this is only the start of the storm directed at Federal employees, and I expect things to get worse.
Please touch on the following.
#1 --- The protections Federal employees who have been with the gov't for more than 3 years get and how it pertains to involuntary termination in general and under RIF?
#2 --- The protections Federal employees get from being part of the union and covered under a Collective Bargaining Agreement and how it pertains to involuntary termination in general and under RIF?
#3 --- The additional protections the disabled are afforded AND veterans with veterans' preference (5pt and 10pt). I am a veteran w/ 5pt veterans' preference. And for what it is worth, I earned that with years of my life in service to this country. [note, my skills are good so I am not worried about that aspect but there is general contempt for gov't employees, so I like to know what protections are available.]
My office is “virtually full”.
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Yes all of our field offices were downsized to the point where there is no room for all of us despite the fact that we are still significantly understaffed
The problem is, some of us have been remote employees for over a decade, and have built our lives around working remotely.
well, maybe you shouldn’t have done that knowing there’s a headquarters where you have to go to work.
don’t get me wrong, i’m not unsympathetic but some employees have been out of control for a while. i know one guy that works in another state and still gets paid by our office for full time work.
@@zhpike0478 I'm in the same boat
@@omarlocke4351 in most cases it was better for everyone involved to work remotely. Ie...USDA inspectors could live close to the farms they inspected and go in the office once a month. And the office could be more than 50 miles away. So how is going back in better for everyone?
@ oh!? so you’re saying it’s a perfect practice!? and many inspectors live nowhere near their sites. you and i both know that. more often than not people are abusing the system. talk to them for doing that. double and triple dipping especially some retirees. it’s disgusting. i’m not saying don’t get yours but you know the kind of people i’m talking about abusing things taking it way too far getting tvs and new furniture every year to maintain budget and WORSE! anyone whose worked ina federal office can detail some horror stories
@@omarlocke4351Same. I know an individual whose duty station is in a HCOL area (Reston) but they live in a LCOL area in NC.
Still trying to understand what happens to fully remote workers who have no office and whose duty station is their home. Do we just go to the nearest federal building, even if it's not for our agency? If so, how would anyone even know we're there if our boss lives in another state?
you could simply ask your boss?
This is the same question I have. The only thing is that that second part that talks about "If your duty station is more than 50 mi away from an agency facility then you have to find one closer or move there or something," which seems to take into account the fact that for a lot of the remotes their duty station is their house
Your answer is in this video and specifically in the memo. Those people go to an office in their commuting area. Get ready for new leases from one agency to the next for office space! 😂
I have a friend in the same situation - she supports the VA in Texas and lives in VA. Her manager is seeking clarification but can't give her any guidance yet. She was hired as a remote worker - there is no place for her to return to.
Sorry you couldn't make it in the private sector. Someone will tell you where to go, don't worry.
My manager said today that our agency is probably going to be business as usual. The memo feels like it’s a public front. There’s no way to enforce this anytime soon. We don’t have space, most employees are bargaining unit, and the others have managers and teams across the country.
Same with my agency
That’s what most people don’t realise federal agencies have been closings offices to save money. So everyone can’t even fit in one building at the same time
Telework is here to stay
This is why people are frustrated. Federal employees are supposed to be public servants, but your comment drips with entitlement. Federal employees shouldn't even be allowed to have a union. And, there is a very simple way to enforce this order. You return to work, or you lose your job.
@@Zo1963 Exactly. The public can think what they want. That orange man can appease his base, but internally it’s very different.
@ Did you get your tax refund? Were your services delayed? Do you have roads to drive on? Ever got a student loan? Have kids in public school? What about an FHA mortgage? All these people who support the public have worked from home before it was popular during COVID. Since 2010 mins you. Your anger should be at your President who’s proposing to sell government buildings to privately equity firms to then be turned around and leased back to the government. Mind you that’s with your tax dollars, but you don’t sound educated enough to be in a bracket where you even pay them.
Your ignorance and frustration are misplaced.
So glad I retired from the Government. These knuckleheads are going to see a deluge of retirements, private sector losses and of course those losses will be the brightest and best. This is the 21st century and times are changing. The smart employers will look at this as a new norm and get the best employees. Just dumb and for no reason.
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Perfect, then it will be worth it.
The best and brightest don't stay in government.
Good, maybe I can stick this out for a promotion. 😊
Not to mention the "brain drain" which will result in all agencies as well knowledgeable long time workers will retire and take their knowledge with them.
It's not an issue for me but where do we perform our duties if there isn't any place to work on site? People can complain and want federal workers to return to work but haven't provided the space to return to. Make it make sense.
The OPM memo is filled with lies, misleading citations, and propaganda. It's disgusting that OPM has sunk this low. And disgusting that telework is being ended for literally no reason.
@@LiamRappaport I wouldn't blame OPM as a whole. It's the Trump admin mouthpiece using the unprofessional language and misleading information
@@arkturuslanding2532 It's from the Trump admin. Bunch of blatant lies were in it.
@@arkturuslanding2532 I'm sure the underlings are decent people, but if this is the output of the organization then I'm gonna call it like I see it.
the reason is to get people to quit lol.
the private sector ( the majority of Americans ) are tired of a bloated public sector stealing hard earned revenue from taxes and then wasting it.
with AI and automation i would argue 75% AT LEAST of all remote federal work could be cut without any operational problems.
@ Obviously, Musk literally said that.
What agencies specifically do you want to see the workforce cut? The ones dealing with food and drug safety, collecting taxes, ensuring national defense, ensuring your drinking water is safe? What evidence do you have that federal agencies are "stealing" and "wasting" "hard earned revenue from taxes? Have you ever worked a government job?
With what factual basis would you make that argument? Have you ever used AI? It's definitely not ready for prime time ubiquitous use yet except, perhaps, in very specific jobs. Why do you target remote jobs specifically? If you work in an office on a computer, you can do that job literally anywhere you have a laptop and an internet connection.
Federal employees who voted for Trump voted for this. Oh well.
It is a question I am always thinking about as I look around the faces at the office on my days in.
@@mewpoet they are the sheep going to the slaughter house.
Most of us are in the building where have he’s been 🙆🏽♀️
There are a lot of federal workers that are remote and not working. They have multiple jobs and businesses while on the federal clock. They are at home full time and not working. Some don't respond or check email and some of their managers are doing the same. Customers and constituents have complained as they have to go thru multi levels of telephone prompts and are not often even able to leave a voicemail within certain agencies. There have been incidents where FEMA employees didn't respond to emergencies, stating that their offices are on remote work schedules, etc. Folks already have a bad perception that "government" workers don't work and then there are those that are abusing the system and spoiling it for everyone. While I'm in office 5 days a week, I've seen employees abuse their telework usage just to stay at home and wait for a repair man to fix their appliance, etc. In a past job I was a remote worker. I stayed near the computer and cell to do my job. Yes, there were times that I would step away for an hour or so, but my supervisor was always aware of what I was doing. I was just talking to a co-worker today about how in private industry, the bottom line is the driving force and they cut a lot of the bureaucracy out of their processes, to speed up the processes to ensure better efficiencies. In some government agencies things require 20 signatures for approval. Factor in any of those 20 persons going on leave for several days (or weeks) or it get's buried down in their email and you can see how things move at a snails pace.
I oppose anyone who opposes remote work because it’s just part of a general opposition to workers rights. It makes no sense from a practical standpoint to do a blanket elimination of remote work. I personally prefer a hybrid system which is what most people have been doing for years now. I think that a 50/50 split strikes the right balance. Sometimes it’s beneficial to collaborate in person and sometimes those in person interactions are disruptive and keep you from getting your work done. Sometimes it’s highly beneficial to have someone who can work late or start early because they don’t have to commute, and it’s far easier to cover shifts if people are able to work while traveling, disabled, ill, etc. Federal workers are being used as pawns in a cynical ploy because it’s been acknowledged that the real reason they’re doing this is to get people to quit.
Says the person who works in his pajamas, does laundry and cleans house while working from home.
@@Yohoo272some people abuse it, yes that does happen. Others are efficient and can finish projects faster, that would other wise not be incentivized to do so in person. Or, it's a reactive job like help desk, etc. instead of blanket assumptions, having a way to track that works is actually being done and it's also quality work.
@ it’s not a blanket assumption. I worked for the Government and saw it with my own eyes. 75% or better abuse the system. It’s nearly impossible to fire them.
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Do agencies have the physical facilities to support a return to the workplace since many agencies allowed GSA rental leases to expire?
I am a remote federal employee. My official duty station is my home address. I am responsible for visiting Veteran’s in an assigned territory which is outside of 50 miles from a VA facility. I am curious how this is going to play out for me??? Of note, my supervisor is in California and I am in Arizona. Our headquarters is in Utah.
My guess is that you’ll have to be based from a VA nearby. If you’re union or space isn’t available then it’s going to be a while
My client told me theyre planning on Weekly Reviews of what the worker accomplished that week. Apparently some she said, dont do much.
That's a management problem. Managers are responsible for delegating and managing workloads.
Depends on the work. Our call center requires you to be on the phone, we managers can see everyone's que, we also have specific metrics you must meet daily, weekly, and quarterly. So it didn't matter where you worked as long as you were connected to the VPN.
The thing is just because you’re not in the office doesn’t mean you’re working any more or less. Productivity has been the same or higher for remote work which is WHY it wasn’t cut off after COVID. Management was so scared of it pre COVID and then once it hit they realized that work carried on as usual without skipping a beat (if you didn’t have work that requires you to be there in person). Let’s be realistic, before covid no one could get in touch with HR anyway so having them work at home was pretty much the same as having them in office…I digress..No one is thinking about that most government employees are adults and behave as such. Of course you have your outliers but overall this is all based PERCEPTION and NOT reality and I really hate that. So what if someone is at home working in their day time pajamas. The work is being done. I’ve worked remote and it’s been a godsend for my family and finances and I usually work even more cause I have flexibility. Most people work harder in those type of positions cause they want to keep the privilege than going into the office everyday (it really isn’t necessary in most office jobs. I really liked the hybrid approach as well cause you can work but not have to deal with depressing work environments, commutes, pointless water cooler convos, annoying boss/coworkers, harassment issues, etc. it was a good balance of work and life.
Not true
Very true for various agencies
@@Yohoo272 it is true for many, my team of system admins is small but we squeeze out more work hours not having to deal with commuting... I have no problem working late if need be while teleworking but my days in the office I'm out as soon as my shift is up to deal with traffic so I can see my wife and kids.
I honestly get disrupted way more in office than I do at home behind my locked door.
This is beyond idiotic! Most workers or even all federal workers have return to the office in some capacity. This isn’t a return to work, this is a take away of an alternative work schedule that was already in place way before Covid. Congress and unions need to step up
OPM already stated that 60% of government workers are still working remote regularly.
@ 10% is remote. Which is zero in person in building . 56% or so teleworks 1 to 3 days out the week
@@ChillWill-q5x Please learn the difference between remote and telework if you want to be taken serious as a troll...lol That must be that new common core math because per OMB about 54% of the entire federal workforce can't telework at all. Since you are not a fed, you do not realize that there are a vast number of fed jobs like doctors, nurses, aids, mental health professionals, janitorial staff and maintenance staff, security, police etc etc etc that obviously cannot and do not telework. Only 10% of the total workforce are remote and many aren't "still" working remotely. They were hired as a remote employee and have never worked in an office smh
@@ChillWill-q5xthose figures were wrong and exaggerated . Only 10% are remote upon updated reports.
This will cost the Fed govt (us taxpayers) millions of dollars more of taxpayer money.
New space will have to be leased as federal agencies reduced their office space over the last 6-7 years…many agencies have shared cubicles/offices that are occupied by different people on different days of the week depending on their telework schedule. So, there is not enough space for everyone to RTO.
Then, on top of the cost of leasing more office space, more people will be receiving the transportation subsidy-a max of $280/month for using public/mass transit.
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And gee, who will benefit from that sudden windfall of cash when the government swoops in to acquire office space at premium, over-inflated prices?
@@mr-vet yup! I wonder if the rifs will start before or after that
This is what the voters wanted…
It's hard to know how this will impact people based on the individual agreements. My understanding is that NTEU (National Treasury Union) recently entered into a 5-year contract to retain its current telework practices. I think most telework employees covered by the NTEU have to go into the office once a week (or twice a pay period). I wouldn't think a Memorandum would give any authority to change that contract, and it may instead require a law by congress.... but that's just my assumption/understanding. I could be totally wrong.
I saw this on Reddit as a comment; I do not know if it’s accurate:
“EO can't violate an act of congress which the Federal Service Labor-Management Relations is and that's what federal CBAs fall under”
Which is why private unions in government are a complete conflict of interest and will be dealt with as well, stand by.
That is my understanding too. Generally, an Executive Order, government wide rule, etc does not defeat a CBA. It would require an act of Congress to nullify a CBA provision. Above all, seek advice from your union's attorney and as always "work now grieve later".
@@SomeGuyFromUtah it’s subject to bargaining so prolly not gonna happen to you for a while
Good! Finally, some common sense. Most of our HR department, the head of human relations, finance, training, etc… work from home. They are not available for meetings nor answer their phones when you call them. It’s become a huge problem!
Does the memorandum from OPM address adhering to the Telework Enhancement Act of 2010? In other words, not an end to telework?
@@jasonpeters8255 nope and not really. The executive has a lot of leeway in making decisions about policies
No one is ending "REMOTE WORK". Telework is what is affected. Telework and remote work are two different things.
The Presidential Memo specifically stated "executive branch of Government". Has this changed and is this now applicable to all branches and all agencies of the federal government?
Or is it the executive branch that is responsible for telling all federal employees to return to the office?
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This is going to increase Gov spending because I know quite a few leased offices that were vacated. This is all impulsive, per usual
Just look at who signed the order.... A convicted felon who actually admitted to grabbing women by the .... Privates... Who calls veterans suckers and losers.... Incited and actual riot. Need we say more?
Canceling remote work could significantly harm the workforce for several reasons. First, remote work has proven to enhance work-life balance by offering employees flexibility, which leads to higher job satisfaction and overall well-being. Forcing employees back into the office might cause stress, burnout, and dissatisfaction, especially for those who have adjusted to the convenience of working from home. Furthermore, agencies will need to pay for office space, utilities, cleaning services, maintenance, and office supplies. The cost can quickly add up, especially in large cities with expensive real estate. Some businesses might even need to lease or renovate larger spaces to accommodate a full in-person workforce.
Absolutely true. I’ve seen this firsthand.
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@yooh577 funny until it's your turn to be unemployed and you can't provide for your family.
@jj Yooh is probably already unemployed and likely low skilled and uneducated. That’s why they’re hating on federal employees.
I live in DC and alot of my clients are Federal, one told me that they're planning on monitoring who isn't doing much and try and get rid of them. One told me one man used to read the paper all day. Another said a woman would nap in the library. Both agreed that there is a level of that happening. That wouldn't happen in Private Sector. They would be gone
Very unprofessional memorandum, and poorly written.
My question is what is the difference between an Executive Order (EO) and Presidential Memorandum (PM)? The Return to Work was identified as a PM and not an EO. Could this difference affect the outcome for remote work?
I'm retired now, but I'm pretty sure telework policy was part of the negotiated agreement with the union, and that's likely replicated at most facilities across the country. Wondering if executive orders can override those agreements.
Not sure it matters. We have a convicted felon as president who's ordering this. I fully assume many illegal things will happen and court cases will lag behind dor years. His schedule F employees for any policy making positions are to be fired without due process.... There won't be time to figure out what's legal.
If it was not passed by Congress, any agreement with Biden is moot.
@@rickyrydell Congress tried to pass a return-to-work law in 2023 (I think) and it went through the house, but the Senate never brought it up for a vote, so it did not pass. I believe the contracts would require a new law to be passed by congress in order to nullify an employment agreement before it expires.
will have do I&I with the union
Seems like glaring evidence for why private unions are a conflict of interest with government employment. Save some screams for when that issue gets addressed, probably really soon. 🙂
Thank God it took me a year and a half to get a mental health appointment at the Va. Once I got in 6 months ago I found out my doctor works in office once a week ... geez no wonder
@@brett.c1649 that’s more of a staffing/scheduling issue not telework problem. It’s hard for the government to retain talented doctors so a lot are short staffed.
That's not the reason silly 😂
Anyone know what the 50 miles thing means?
I don't know where these people are working. I worked at the we were barely allowed to work remotely.
@@colettemcwilliams1325 I work for the National Park service and have worked remotely since 2010
I work in the DOD. We only have to be in office one day a week currently. I prefer to be in office and have been 5-days a week so this doesn’t really hurt me, but some of my coworkers aren’t happy.
@@mejfarmer I know plenty of people still "working from home" in DOD, and I know how insanely abused and ridiculous it has been.
@@ChillWill-q5x just like anything you will have some bad apples. But I can honestly say, my coworkers are some of the hardest working, most ethical people I know….whether in the office or not!
@ One can be honest, hard working and ethical all they want, but paid time off is paid time off, and no one ever complained about less work.
This has Elon Musk stink all over it.
Yep-Trump hd no issue with telework in 2016.
More Tesla sales for commuting, and a stimulus to the big bankers holding corporate real estate.
The objective is to get alot of retires, quits, and terminations. Gov is too big.
My duty station is HOME. I have telework agreement that is apart of the collective bargaining agreement with the union - a legal binding contract. Remote work will not be ending for everyone. Sorry, Donald.
I feel like he is looking right at me.
In-person. Not In-office.
Republicans: Let's brake the Government.
Also Republicans: Government doesn't work!!
Gas, man, gas!
Break.
Move the employees duty station? That called a relocation, which takes money and up to a year.
Remote work and telework are different. I believe telework is guaranteed by Federal law. Also if the order violates union bargaining agreements it may be overruled by a court.
Good luck
No, not by Federal Law, it's just an agreement between management and the union, our situation is unique in that we went fully remote (duty station is our home) not because of COVID but because the Federal facility we were in was heavily contaminated with lead, asbestos, and 86 other different things, so after that was leaked, they shut it down. But then they spent $20 million on a new 20 year lease in our downtown area and nobody has yet to occupy half of it, but it's also not big enough to bring everyone back in either....
@@ChillWill-q5x Hater
The government customer service representatives, especially black women, be home all rude and disrespectful with their thousands of kids in the background screaming and cursing up a storm, while on calls with customers. No husband to be found. They need to be forced into the office. But you know what they’ll say “I ain’t goin even have no childcare no mo” 🙄 smh
So people who were hired to work remote and don't have an office to go into what are they to do. Lawsuit coming.
It's my understanding that they will find an agency office for you.
@@solaprose5042 In which you are still working remotely from the rest of your team... what's the point?
I'm waiting for my agency to send out guidance on this and also let us know when we need to start commuting to the office 5 days a week. 🤷🏾♀️
Same here. Waiting on word on which office to go to. I’ve been working remotely for 5 years now. Nothing coming down from our leadership yet.
Some agencies already prepped for this with unions signing collective bargaining agreements all the way out to 2029.
We couldn’t get our collective bargaining agreement done in time and outgoing chairman didn’t want to sign it prior to the new administration taking office.
What about space for employees to work on-site? Most of the buildings had their lease terminated or expired.
Sending EVERYONE back to an office is the most fair and inclusive thing that can be done.
Great Show!
If all telework employees return yo office…no one will be working during an emergency or inclement weather
That's a good thing for you. Free day off with pay.
@@teresaswingle3004 office closures unless they let/make you have adhoc telework for those days
Now we have to get rid of unqualified WP who have friends and family hiring them 😮
“The department will cancel all existing telework arrangements, except for situational telework, on March 1, and remote workers are expected to return to in-person work by July 1.”
what department though? I'm guessing that's far too broad to apply across the entire federal workforce.
What is this quoted from? What agency?
It’s the OPM memo that’s coming out tomorrow to various agencies..it’s true
@@melodygeo5951 as far as I understand it... my union contract will prevent a mandated return to work unless it's done via congress. Trumps memo doesn't empower agencies to go against the terms of the bargaining agreements. Or am I missing something?
The VA hospital has a longstanding union teleworking agreement with the union so they are exempt from
Very interesting this hit my feed. Just chatted with my ex-Director about TW. Too bad our office showed an 23% increase in product ability during COVID times that allowed our office to continue TW. The key was in the rules and controls set in place. Sad there are just different area's, and programs due to the inability for a standardized TW agreement. At times, it's a good thing.
It’s a Direct Order!!!
Sounds like schedule A documentation could help keep a telework agreement secure.
with him ending EEOC I think even schedule A and using vet status is gone
It's called a reasonable accomodation. You'd need to ask your agency for the RA form. A scheduling A appointment is no help. You need to document why you need a medical accomodation to work from home.
In the event an agency can’t accommodate 100% return to work, I.e., NOT ENOUGH SPACE, what happens?
Perhaps names will be drawn from a hat
Record commercial real estate available in the USA right now at bargain basement prices.
Im guessing the goal of this is to try and get as many people to quit as possible. That's what I would do, its hard to fire them, easy to make their job suck so bad they quit.
Its clear one of the goals of the administration is a drastic reduction in the federal workforce.
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Whin a little harder. People who are paid by taxpayers should be home, not operating at home. Sleeping til noon and watching TV.
Elon said as much and this probably came at his recommendation: "Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome"
Same old tricks. The high performers leave. The dead weight stays. Then they scramble to hire hire hire all the positions again realizing no one was sitting in a basement coddling a stapler.
@@lightynide Elon is incredibly ignorant with how the government works.
You would have to get rid of the retirement benefits, the PSLF program, the healthcare coverage, the annual and sick leave, paid parental leave, and lower wages to a point where the misery of the work isn't worth it.
Federal workers are going to hang on because of this. Literally hanging on for dear life.
So i have a question, what if there is no space to return..we already rotate in the office but not everyone will be able to come in everyday of the week..also, the building doesnt have the space, another department tried to take our office because they needed the space
They are goning to expect alot of quits. Govt is way too big and ineffective. many of you work hard but others have caused this gaming the system ect..
They didn’t realize how much money was being saved with leasing less office space. We don’t have enough workspaces for everyone to return full time.
Exactly! Our HQ only has room for half of the assigned employees. We got rid of our satellite offices. I guess we’ll have to bring in lawn chairs and sit in the hallways. 😊
Our agency also canceled leases that were in the millions every year, saving taxpayers from paying leases and maintenance and security on those buildings. Now there isn’t enough office space to go to.
Our office is dilapidated as if it were the old Oakland coliseum. Falling apart... Substandard 1960s plumbing... Asbestos... 😂😂😂 Not gonna return there anytime soon.... Good try Convict 47.
Outrageous! Why do I have to commute to work and spend 8 hours there? I can get my required tasks done in a few hours at home.
Seriously? You’re posting on YT that you don’t have enough work to keep you busy for the hours that you’re being paid for? And you wonder why the taxpayers are pissed and want reform.
Since when does the tail wag the dog....go to work and quit whining 😢
I dont think there should be executive and legislative nononfor agencies collective bargaining terms that require congressional approval.
Work from home and the ability to fire employees with cause terms should be one of them. If a elected executive doesnt have the ability to cleanup broken government and its outside the preview of other branches this is not a citizen lead government its a litteral oligarchy.
But ill be satisfied if the inions fight any of this and it can be determined at the SCOTUS level. There are no checks from my view as just a common peasant... I mean the citizen seat here.
I can’t wait to get back to the office!
Can you provide more information about the end to DEIA and the positions impacted? Specifically EEOC Specialist jobs. Thanks.
As a public servant, I don’t mind going into the office full-time. It’s disappointing to call federal agencies and not have anyone answer the call, and it takes several days for people to return my voicemail if they even return my voicemail. It’s kind of like people who are honest don’t mind being investigated as there is nothing to hide, whereas dishonest people will fight to stop any investigation. Let’s get to work for the American people.
That does NOT even make sense, and I question if you are truly employed by the Federal government. Every Federal phone line can be directed to a federal employee whether they are in a federal building or from their home office. The location of the employee has NOTHING to do with someone answering a call.
The monitoring software tools are robust when utilized. The push for "back to the office" is anger, bitterness, jealousy and punishment from those who are in occupations that cannot be done remotely.
I do work for the American people - every day. The production and quality metrics by which my job performance is evaluated do not change, regardless of where I sit while achieving them. Your vague accusation that Federal employees don't work seem short-sighted, at a minimum, and quite questionable.
Not all government workers work phone lines and are public facing. Those who aren’t in the public service sector barely have phones. Since covid, we either use Microsoft teams, government issued cell phone or personal phones for communication..so other than certain meetings or needed face to face interactions you can most definitely work from home as we weren’t even issued phones.
@@Rosetta_Stoned-w5s I totally agree with you. I have been working 1 day a week at the office and my service is exactly the same as when I work from home, in fact from home is even better service without the interruptions.
RMA is safe.
My Team Works in a different state, and our manager is in a different one from that. If I was returned to the office it would be to see no one
Its going to be hard to get a judge to go along with a lawsuit to throw out trumps return to office mandates. That would essentially give federal employees the power to dictate to a president WHERE they will work. A democrat president wont want to be burdened with that down the road either. It would severely weaken every presidents authority in the future to allow fed workers to dictate WHERE they will work. Or IF THEY will show up for work.
It wouldn’t be employees dictating anything. It would be the President honoring existing contracts and the law.
Federal employees have never had their benefits rescinded by a particular administration before.
Yeah, so the unelected federal employees telling the elected officials what policy should be. Sounds like a problem? Oh wait, this is the exact issue that contributed to trump winning. An expensive unelected federal bureaucracy with 0 accountability. They must have not gotten the message clearly the comments here suggest they do understand many of them will not being working for the federal government by 2026.
@@amarasunflower6914This was one of the major platform issue Trump ran on. You are telling me that the majority of the American people, congress, and the president cannot dictate policy? Most of us want 90 percent of the federal government terminated with no severance and the pension rescinded.
@amarasunflower6914 if the president cannot even dictate where federal employees work, then that essentially means federal employees are self employed and do not work for the president. I'm not saying what trumps doing is right or wrong. I'm just saying its undisputable a president has the authority to tell federal employees where they will work.
@@Redman6522Well that won’t happen. Sorry you hate us so bad but need us at the same time…This is coming from a IT specialist with an outstanding performance review while teleworking and in office. I’m not going anywhere.
Back to work - or we will vacate you
Your lame attempt to threaten American citizens is a very bad look for you.
Why has this not occurred YEARS AGO?
Flexible work schedules will probably be next. These rules should apply to contractor employees as well, who far outnumber federal workers.
I guess field work is dead.
Report this to DOGE. The increased costs to return everyone will be wasteful.
Only the remote workers think it's best- customers and clients actually want real service and help
Yes, I'm sure that customer who is literally half a world away cares whether or not you are in a government building or working from home.
Why should federal workers get to work from home, when most Americans can’t? Get back into the office or find work somewhere else. What a bunch of leaches.
A lot of industries have work from home policies and the government adopted it because technology allows it and it’s keeping up with the times. This is 2025, not 1925..people can and DO achieve a lot virtually.
Federal employees are 1/3 veterans and all federal employees are US citizens and we pay taxes too deal with it karen
Typical comments from Democrat Federal workers. I worked with these types of DEI employees for 30 years. They think they are so entitled.
Some agencies already have recently within the past year signed collective bargaining agreements which will remain in place until 2029 so... There will be no bearing as long as this nimrod is in office. Thanks for voting him in y'all. Way to go. Play dumb games get appropriate prizes 😂
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Good I am sick of these rude …. I had tell one them…….. to go …..
Set your alarm, get out of bed, clean up, get dressed, get your 6 out the door and get your butt to work on time That’s at your station at the start of your days. And work! Not rocket science. Maybe, that needs to be couched in these terms "OR ELSE YOU AUTOMATICALLY RESIGN. "
Bet you're a barrel of fun at parties 🎉😂.
I have Reasonable Accommodations and can't go back in the office.
You may get let go then
@@Redman6522if they let her go for that she would never have to work again. That would be a hell of a lawsuit
@@Redman6522that’s not true. The EO allows flexibility for reasonable accommodations and disabilities
Didn't almost all of you work at the office before covid? Everyone acts like this is the end of the world.
No, I teleworked 3 days a week before covid
We have been on telework since 2015.
It was all smoking mirrors for the election vote
The problem is the office leasing is wayyyyy overpriced taxpayers are getting screwed with gov employees working in the office it’s actually saving massive amounts of money due to remote and telework agreements btw most people slack off in the office I would have countless people standing around talking all day instead of working remote work and telework is tracked immensely
No, some agencies were 80% or more teleworking prior to Covid. They don't interact with clients, and are in front of a computer up to 13 hours a day reviewing electric paperwork.
and I bet have of y’all voted for him! So shut up
Evidence has arisen that 80% of Federal remote workers are using mouse jigglers.
Not true. We monitor for that.
Don’t need mouse jigglers lol don’t think they’re allowed to have the monitor software
@@ThisFriggenGuy-li5ui lol, it’s called, you only install wtf we allow you to. 😂
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Ngl, if everyone cant work remotely and were told to get back to work in the office after covid, our goverment should too. They aint noone special.
Just because where you work sucks ass doesn't mean we should have to do the same. In office 5 days a week is antiquated and should only be reserved for those who either have to go in to perform job functions and for those moments that deem it necessary.
They were teleworking before covid
Get your butts back to work.😂
I promise you I will work less hard if I have to go into the office. I work my butt off at home.
Well work just as hard, but get distracted 100x by other coworkers on things not related to the job role.
You wished you had a secure government job rather than the retail job you currently hold..... Now back to the cave with you Sonny. 😂
@@pgaven9396 Right they hate on us and need us at the same time.
Additional guidance? WTF! So simple man, just get your ass into the office!
Thank god the DEI is GONE!!! if you only knew the idiots I work with
Well you’re agency is lucky, mine is stuck with me cause I’m a re-re but not a DEI hire 🤷♂️
The only people potentially losing their jobs atm was the ones who actually ran the offices that adminsitered DEI. Your coworkers are still likely protected although I believe they are trying to pass more laws to make it easier to fire government employees for bad performance.
Stop lying you do not work for the government
I'm a retired federal employee. While working, I did what my boss told me, when he told me! I think some of these liberal employees that are union members don't think that they should have to do anything that's not their idea!
Not all of them are liberal. Some happily voted for trump and would do it again. However as remote federal employee working for corps of engineers and excellent performance reviews for years who's lab is in another state with spouse and kids it's not so simple as you paint it.
LOL….MOST federal employees are automatically union members even if you don’t pay dues. Tell me you really never worked for the government without telling me you never really worked for the government.
@@kennethniles663 well said. 4 of 5 in my office are conservatives.
@@mejfarmer that's true but not all.
@@mejfarmer like I said. Voted for him and would do it again but the fact that this hurts doesn't change.
It's about time that right get back to work.
The same amount of work gets done at home 🏡, actually more than in the office 😮
@@augustusb3501 That is a fact for my agency. Telework increased our production and saved money on transit subsidies.
More work gets done at home and more people are willing to put in longer hours because they don’t have to commute
@aunikajohnson5170 Correct.
Thank god the DEI is GONE!!! if you only knew the idiots I work with
Stop lying
there were enough of them long before DEI was even invented