What It’s Really Like to Take a 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid on a Long Drive!
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Lumbar support should be standard in every car and every trim.
I hate lumbar support. At least the one on the Honda Civic... it pushes my spine even in the minimum position. I got used to it, but the Ford Focus 2013 seats are much more comfortable. It is one of the minuses observed in Honda Civic gen 11
Absolutely
Says who? Market dictates this not just anyone…😂
@@ztekz - they make you pay for the higher trim package just to get lumbar support - because they know you want it. Don't be a fool.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnowyou can’t actually get it at all on the civic so they’re not just making you pay for it
What everyone's missing on the underwhelming highway mpg, this is generally not a long range cruiser. Where it really shines is in stop and go around town driving, where I've been averaging between 51 and 52 mpg, and driving briskly!
Camry le has even better city mpg and cost less
He's driving the "Touring" model dude
He's also using cruise control. I've found with the Honda Accord Civic that I get less mpg with Cruise than I do with a light touch on the pedal. Plus, he does not say if he's in Eco mode. If he's in normal or sport mode, he's going to get less mpg.
@@johnf7683 I find the ACC works well on long, open, level stretches but in traffic and in hills or mountains it seems to react abruptly enough that it is detrimental to fuel economy. As an example when it approaches a car going much slower it will brake when the sensor acquires the target whereas a driver would have slowed and kept the distance much smoother and earlier without using the brakes at all.
I've purchased the new 2025 civic sport hybrid hatchback (non touring). At 70mph I can average about 47mpg, but at 80mph I might only average 40mpg. Huge difference. If I go a bit slower on my all-highway commute I easily hit 47mpg.
Did you use economy mode? I drove the same speed in economy mode and got around 45mpg. Windy central Illinois roads may have caused the difference. I also found that going 75 or higher really dropped the mpg and that optimal mpg is around 65mph.
I just picked up my hybrid touring last week. I’m just over 350 miles total and have averaged just under 55mpg with mostly highway mixed driving
On a trip to Texas from NY and back, I averaged 44 mpg in a 2020 Civic Si doing 75-80mph the whole way, with my best calculated trip tank at 47mpg (not the tripmeter...real calculation.)
That calculation is also in my video ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=QjQhXag7lyJsgnQy&t=1113
I've had the same car for almost two months. Several road trips in all conditions (summer) meaning highways, mountains, desert and dense urban traffic. I drive just like every other car on the road and mostly in NORMAL mode with occasional SPORT mode use. I have not used ECON mode due to it's effect on A/C which has always been on and I only use cruise control on long open stretches of level highway. With just under 5k miles the Trip B computer, which has never been reset, reads 48.9 mpg. The Trip A computer, which auto resets at each fill up, is consistently right around 50 mpg give or take. The last road trip was from San Francisco to Las Vegas and back over the 9800 foot Tioga Pass in Yosemite and across the -282 foot Death Valley. I think your constant use of ACC is affecting your results.
If you’re going to evaluate road comfort and fuel economy, you need to address tire pressure. It will make a noticeable difference in both.
Inflation pressure was set to manufacturer recommendations
So many roads in America are 75 or 80. It seems like a big miss that the EPA doesn't include that in its testing.
60 mph is the max speed to get good mileage. Wind resistance will win every time.
I have a 2021 Toyota Highlander hybrid which is rated at 35mpg. I use it for soccer mom activities. I have 3 kids, also added a tow hitch, side steps, and roof rails and still get 34-35mpg. If I just cruise on the freeway at 55-60mph, I can get 40mpg. So considering you’re driving by yourself, the Civic hybrid’s real world mpg is underwhelming.
It's a completely different Hybrid system. It's not a planetary-gear system like the Toyota is, and Toyota has the big Lithium Battery pack under the back seat that this Civic does not have. The Civic works on a smaller one and charges more through regenerative, whereas the Toyota can run on the battery pack for a while.
cars like this in europe and canada are selling for 45g, inflation is killing the world.
It's not inflation, it's the evil vermin printed your money away.
Big corporations know they can just keep upping the prices
Yeah. Thanks for the honest MPG review. That is what I am finding myself as a daily driver. I dunno what other people are talking about getting way over 55MPG. They all must be lying.
The road is an issue for me also. It's those thin profile tires. They are lame.
As a "Touring" vehicle, Honda needs to separate it from the "Sport" by putting more comfortable tires on the Touring model, let the Sport guys have the thin ones
Definitely hurting the MPG using Cruise Control at such high speeds
I own a 2024 Civic EX-L hatchback (the 1.5 turbo). In May I took it on a 1300 mile road trip and averaged 42.5. In August I did a 300 mile day trip and got 47.7. I don’t think the hybrid is worth the money if you’re primarily on the open road. If you’re on city streets most of the time then the hybrid is worth it. My EX-L will typically get upper 20s mpg in city driving, pretty underwhelming. Honda has a winner here and will sell a bunch of these, even when most people want an SUV.
previously owned a 17 civic ex-t, with the 1.5L turbo with manual transmission. Drove it to Florida and was able to achieve 50 miles to the gallon. Only reason I go rid of that car was because it was not comfortable inside for road trip. If this hybrid car is more comfortable than the 17 civic, I may consider to get it.
I had a 78 Diesel VW Rabbit- same fuel mileage. I dont think its worth it pay 5 k over the Base LX Civic unless you drive 20-30 k per year.
The only deal breaker for me is no spare tire? I know there has to a place for the battery but I need a spare, ask me how I know. Had a SI and hit a small pothole that tore my sidewall, the fix a flat kit was useless, waited 3 hours at midnight for a tow, never again would I purchase a vehicle without a spare tire. I know I can put one in the trunk but there goes my storage.
SI probably had low profile tires which are subject to tire and wheel damage. And increased road noise.
Unless you’re on a race track, higher profile tires make much more sense.
If it's like the Accord a couple of hundred dollars will get you a OEM spare and tool kit. Small lithium battery sits under rear seat
Agree. I believe the sedan version has room for a spare but you will need to pony up an extra $400. Any profile tire can get a flat at any time. It’s easy to change a tire and be on your way.
@@cdipierro Where did you buy your spare and what where the specs?
After owning this exact same car for a month (same color too!)... it seems finely tuned to perform best cruising around suburbia. I haven't tested it long range or consistent high speeds. I have taken several 15-20 mile trips of country-type miles and i've hit 58-60 MPG. I think if you put in in ECON mode you'd see closer to 45-46 MPG for a long trip like this video. I Also feel the adaptive cruise control might hurt your MPG but that seems to go against conventional wisdom
I have a Honda Accord Hybrid, and I do get less mpg with cruise on. You have to train your foot for light pressure to get good MPG, but I average around 54 mpg combined not using cruise.
I would be curious to see a road noise comparison at 78mph vs. the 2025 Toyota Camry SE. (About the same cost)
I'm interested to hear how the civic hybrid does too. I have a 2025 camry xse and it was quite noisy on at freeway speeds especially 75 mph and above. I've changed to quieter tires added sound deadening materials in all four wheel wells, that cut down the road noise quite a lot.I was getting wind noise coming from the a pillar area but after getting some low profile window visors, that cut down almost all the wind noise and it has been very quiet even at 80 mph. I think the civic may probably perform the same.
@@billc8205 good to know Bill, thanks! I was considering a Camry as a replacement for my 16 year old BMW when it bites the dust. (Running great but you just never know with a car that old). Want something quiet and comfortable. May need to look at a used Lexus or maybe another BMw (B58 engine I hear is reliable as long as you keep up with maintenance).
@@BrianNC81 The B58 is very reliable as it was developed to Toyota standards so toyota could use it in the Supra, I love my M340i. And it's very refined at speeds, very little noise at 75-80 MPH. If i were you, i'd consider a lightly used M340i, they're great values. Make sure to get with driver's assistance package, BMW's system works great on the freeway. And hands free traffic jam assist below 40 MPH is a life saver for my commute.
At higher speeds, you lose gas mileage. This car should get close to 500 miles. If you're getting under 400 miles, you're not driving it efficiently. Weather and the going up on the road, including cold weather and wind.
I get 39mpg Hwy (easy) in my '22 base Corolla. I thought the Honda would do way better. Thanks for doing this video. Very informative.
You don't know how hybrids work buddy
@@disco.lemonade Please. Explain.
I get 47 mpg in a much heavier 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid, especially on long highway drives. His issue is based on what speed that he said he was traveling at, he is going tooooo fast to get good mileage. Between 60 and 70 is the optimum speed, for reasonable air resistance.
Hybrids do better in city driving because they really don't use the battery too much on highway. That's why it's not going to impress on the highway numbers but he's going well above the EPA/Honda testing speeds for MPG.
@@tomn.8475 True. I just think the Camry hybrid is probably the better overall value with better hwy mpg.
It looks like you were driving in Normal mode most of the time. Have you tried switching to Econ mode and, if so, did the gas milage get any better?
In my experience, eco mode just change much in steady state highway driving. Though, it may have improved the numbers in heavier traffic with more accel and decel.
Oh hell yeah! Would tour it all day long
If you put in the LX trim's 16" tires then you can probably get 5-8 mpg more. I hope Honda will add the LX hybrid trim.
My guess is Honda's next update will make the Civic Hybrid only.
My non-hybrid Rav4 at 65 makes around 40. Though it would be nice to get that at 80 mph.
If you are going 75-80mph then 44ish mpg is great. Try going 65-70 and you'll probably meet/beat the EPA.
What I want to know about Honda's hybrid system: what happens after 10 to 15 years of ownership and the hybrid battery completely "fails" (unable to hold any charge, or substantial amount of charge) will the car still operate in a kind of 'limp' mode??? (or will it not run at all??)
Proud just did 950 mile range.
In my corolla hybrid its smooth like a lexus and i smash 80 with 55 mpg
Nonsense!
I like the Corolla too. ruclips.net/video/WhNwohnPvQg/видео.htmlsi=bhWPieJ48pglbwC4
Great review and feedback. How’s the interior build quality? Any annoying rattles?
Good build quality. I did not notice any rattling.
2016 WRX 30 miles one way on the highway i get 39 mpg but I have to cruise at 60 mph.
That's pretty disappointing highway gas mileage. A 10-year-old Mazda 3 would get pretty much the same and it's way less complicated and way less costly.
Is the car broken in yet? It will do better once it is
People have differing opinions on what mileage counts as broken in. As I show in the video, I started with a bit more than 2000 miles on the ODO.
bro, position the camera towards the road (not on you) so we can see more of the car
Thanks for the great review. I like the new civic however with is missing the lumber support and also doesn't look like it has satellite radio anymore so those are a must for me so I'm out.
Receiving siriusxm from the satellite is overrated. The frequency compression is crazy bad. Stream siriusxm from your phone in carplay or android auto.
5.3L/100kms is insanely good!
Don't expect good fuel economy on an empty none traffic road with a hybrid its main purpose is regenerative breaking in traffic and busy roads!
Fuel tank is ridiculously small.
Can you comment on how long it takes to get your $ back vs non-hybrid civic using todays gas price and avg. miles driven say 15k per year.
I think the answer might be close to forever.😊
If you go by Government numbers it costs:
price of gas at the moment in my area - $3.50.
Non hybrid Civic. 36 combined MPG.
Hybrid Civic combined 49 MPG.
15,000 miles/36 mpg *$3.50 = $1458.33 a year for Non Hybrid Civic
15,000 miles/49 mph*$3.50 = $1071.43 a year for Hybrid Civic.
You save $386.90 a year. If you drive more than that and more in the city, it's better. More highway and/or fewer miles, it's worse.
Should have switched it to ECON mode instead of normal. Maybe only an mpg or two but would have maximized it. Great all around car!
In my experience, Eco mode mainly changes the throttle map, which makes it easier to accelerate slower and more smoothly, but doesn't do much for steady state highway driving. That said, all those little moments of speeding up and slowing down in heavier highway traffic, etc. probably would've improved fuel economy a bit. Fair point.
@@viewsonvehicles Good point on the throttle map. Was not a fair assumption by me just bc you see the little green leaf means you instantly get better MPG. You did a good job controlled driving scenario and calculating the accuracy. Nice work!
@@awolryan Thank you!
A 411 mile range? How small is that fuel tank? 10 gallons?
By the way, above about 47mph the engine isn’t just “contributing”, it’s doing all the driving. This has a single overdrive gear that the clutch connects to the front axle. The reason you’re getting just 40mpg is your high speed. 78mph is not only illegal, but is also a very high speed for any car. It isn’t fuel efficient. Remember, that gear is made for 47mph as well, so doing 78mph you’re revving it much higher. You can see that the tach is around 2700-2800rpms. Drop to 70 and you’ll see a huge difference. At 65mph you’ll be doing close to 50mpg.
As I show in the video, the fuel tank is 10.6 gallons. At 78 mph, I kept up with traffic. I passed some folks and many passed me. ruclips.net/video/3Wzt7N_h2A8/видео.htmlsi=S14W33rqbLpH-rHo&t=643
There is no tachometer and regardless of speed if the EV light is on the engine is not running. You have a lot of misinformation on how this thing works.
@@pi.actual There Is a tachometer readout which you can CLEARLY see! Also, the Civic is NEVER in EV mode at highway speeds! YOU are the misinformed one here!
@@afcgeo882 That is a power % meter, not a tachometer. I have owned this car for two months and put almost 5k miles on it. Goes into EV mode at highway speeds up to 80 mph all the time. You are making statements that are completely false.
@@pi.actual The ONLY time it can go into EV at highway speeds is when it’s regen braking
Honda took away Sirius XM Satellite radio, which I have built into my 2012 TSX Wagon. For me, this a real fail for an otherwise desirable Civic.
You are not getting the expected mpg, because you are driving the car too damn fast. Sixty-five to Seventy miles per miles is optimal for most hybrids. When you drive faster than that, the ICE engine kicks in more thus reducing MPG. My 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid, consistently gets 49 to 51mpg, if I keep it at about 65 mpg, or 45-47 if I keep it at 70mpg, for drive that exceed say 250 miles.
Shucks I can get my non-hybrid Mazda 6 with a manual tranny to achieve highway mileage of 38mpg, if I keep it at 65mph on the highway for long drives, and at least 34mpg, if I push it to 70.
Its simple physics, the higher the speed, the more air resistance.
Also how new the car is makes a difference. I rented a brand new (with 10 miles on the clock) 2024 Honda Accord Hybrid Sport. Was shocked that the mileage achieved was only 39 to 41mpg. A month later I rented one with 10,000 miles on the clock. That vehicle had no problem averaging about 47mpg.
The purpose of the test was not to get the expected MPG, but to drive at the speed of traffic and see what the MPG Civic achieved as a result. I pointed out in the video that the Civic I tested started with just above 2000 miles on the odometer and ended it with a bit over 2800 miles.
Compare to camry le 2025
$35k is steep, Elantra starts at 25
But it’s a Hyundai. 😂
It's $33k and the Civic also starts just above $25k ruclips.net/video/VXv3rOe_928/видео.htmlsi=jJZZOwuSdfp2jnGJ&t=77
Next time, just do the math from the pump reading, not the trip computer.
I did do the math. It’s at the end of the video
Too bad about the road noise. Its a typical Honda and Acura downfall
The radio doesn’t work?
@@BillLaBrie turning up the radio doesn't reduce road noise. And is not a substitute for reducing road noise.
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow No, really?
@@BillLaBrie do you have a valid argument?
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Of course I do.
Why do you keep changing camera views when you finish a sentence? lol
Good grief! Enough with the lumbar support complaining. So easily overcome with a lumbar cushion.
Or a can of Pringles.
Prius looks nicer and gets better mpgs
The Prius is horrid.
@@21Piloteer The new prius... Its nice, have you seen it? Far better than this car.
I agree. The new one is a HUGE improvement. ruclips.net/video/viPD9qwrmac/видео.html
350 miles / 8.3 gallons is 42 mpg, not 44. That's not great at 62 mph. At that speed my 2023 Camy Hybrid XSE gets over 45mpg, and it's a much bigger, quieter car.
I calculated MPG using gas station receipts and miles driven at the end of the video. 62 mph is average speed over the course of the trip, including all idling, accelerating, and braking, not set speed on the interstate. Cruise control was set to 78 mph.
Spare tire honda, customers demand it. Still havent learned from the Hybrid CRV. Cheap. Cheap. Cheap.
well at that speed... your fuel economy is reduced a lot
Why not trying to obey the speed limit? It’s not 78 mph. Or, are you the typical “patriotic” American?
78 mph followed the flow of traffic. I was passed about as often as I passed someone else.
I'm just surprised he claimed it's under the EPA rating... Yeah dude you're going 78 mph 🤡😂 Every car peaks mileage at around 60 mph.
over 30k for a civic
Top of the line Civic, yes. It starts at a bit over $25k
@@viewsonvehicles top of the line plastic interior. i doubt these cars will last at all.