If ash was allowed his full power the finals would be hilarious... Gaara: I'm losing control Shikaku comes out Ash: Take his soul Gengar *Gigantamax gengar pops out*
Or what about Melmetal? Pretty sure a giant steel Mythical would just power through almost everything they could throw at it. Especially if Ash use Corkscrew Crash.
I think a better argument for Shikamaru would be to say how almost all of Ash Pokémon has at least one move that cause light, which would cancel out of shadow control at least for the Pokémon.
Ash’s durability is weird cos we all know it’s meant to be a gag and they don’t show injuries because it’s for little kids, can’t show him with burn tissue across his body so i don’t buy him being mountain/city level
The claim that Shikamaru cannot catch multiple people simultaneously is incorrect, as he indeed captured an entire group of Sound ninja en route to Sasuke.Things like these make me glad I started a channel. Great vid overall tho
@@sageofthickcalves No they are not. it's literally the same Shikamaru with less chakra lol. I think you are heavily overestimating the time gap. That's like saying CE Sasuke at full power is weaker than the Sasuke that was chasing Gaara before any mental amps. The only ones who clearly got stronger due to mental amps were Sasuke and Naruto. The slight amp from his battle with Temari would be unquantifiable and no reason it would take him from only being able to snag one person , to being able to catch more than 4. He also showed no surprise at being able to catch more than one person. Which would be the case if he were only able to catch one person before. Come on now. Do you also think base Sasuke became faster than weightless Lee while chasing Temari , kankuro and Gaara? Do you think he got much stronger by jumping over the exam walls since it was the start of the crush arc? Come on now
@@allmight3221 I’m not over estimating a time gap. I’m setting a hard cut off for during the Chunin Exams only due to the fact that several characters get mental amps. Also, we addressed the fact that if he did get both that it wouldn’t matter anyway.
@@sageofthickcalves. If your assumption were accurate, one would logically expect him to have disclosed his limit, similar to Naruto and Sasuke, as evidenced by their performance. Particularly since he was cognizant of the number of ninjas tailing them. He would've at least mentioned that he can only snag a single ninja while making his plan. Escalating from one to more than four adversaries is a significant jump. While not impossible with the correct mental amplification, logical proof is required. There was no significant emphasis on him becoming substantially stronger, which is typical when a character receives a mental boost that drastically alters their capabilities. That combined with him not mentioning a limit makes your claim highly unlikely. Mentioning the futility of the point is unnecessary; my intent was simply to point out the flaw in the argument. I have watched the entire video and enjoyed it. The reason for suggesting it would be pointless is unclear, as if I would stop watching the video over a minor error.
@@allmight3221 again, the cutoff was clearly stated to he IN the Chunin Exams. No reason to make exceptions for anyone there, especially if the difference wouldn’t matter.
Honestly, I'd argue that Ash *does* have the qualifications of a Chunin, and this entire video essentially explains why. Ash may not be book smart, but is Battle IQ is *off the charts,* literally. In this video, Ash is commanding 6 different Pokemon, each with their own quirks and abilities and powers and personalities, and is still able to help them use those powers to their fullest potential. Not only that, but he's able to use his Pokemon's abilities in tandem with the environment around him to overcome opponents he normally wouldn't be able to through brute strength. Even if Ash was limited with his Pokemon, and needed to use different Shinobi for a hypothetical mission, Ash has shown the capability to competently command Pokemon in battle he's barely known (Hell, every single series Ash basically restarted with Pikachu, and was *still* on par with the strongest trainers of the region with these new teams). This is pretty much the reason Shikamaru got promoted to Chunin, and Ash's intellect in battles is on par with Shikamaru, if not higher. Ash may suck at Shogi, but he certainly knows how to command a team to win any fight *and* without them suffering any serious injuries, which more than qualifies him for a Chunin.
@@sageofthickcalves Hmm...maybe in the Original Series and Advanced Generation, but Ash has certainly matured emotionally since then, especially when you look at the way he behaves now in Journeys. When Ash began his journey, he would constantly brag about his accomplishments, and overestimate his capabilities. But now, Ash always treats his opponents with respect no matter who they are, not underestimating their strength, and never mentions his accomplishments, only acting bashful when someone brings them up for him. Like how Goh only found out Ash was the Alolan Champion because the All-Out brothers were fanboys of his.
@@sageofthickcalves Wait, do you think Ash was emotionally immature in the XY anime? To be honest, that's when I believed he was the most mature, even including later series like Journeys and SM, but it seems like you disagree with that (as you said you were only looking at the first six gens) Sorry for yapping a lot lol. Honestly, I'm really glad you made this video!! So many people don't put the respect on Ash's name which he deserves, and y'all clearly have done your research when it came to him and his Pokemon, so I have massive respect for you and ronin 🙏🏾 W video I don't intend to have a toxic argument or anything, I genuinely just want to have a discussion with another person like you who gets Ash's character and his capabilities, and understand your stances on his character which differ from mine.
@@afro025 nah you’re good bro! I greatly appreciate it 🙏🏼 Yeah I’d just say even though he seemed quite mature in XY, I’m not sure if he showed the maturity necessary for leading a squad of shinobi into a life or death battle until much later on
Also Ashes Pokémon can also come out and jump someone. They more than once came out on their own and I’m pretty sure they’d be able to see this isn’t a Pokémon battle and would come out to protect him which could lead to insane combos and an overwhelming force.
Limiting to gen 6 and down scaling was a great idea cause from alola onwards the scaling gets so insane, that it's funny, even before that with gen 4 and Cynthia, but ash and his pokemons only scale to her in journeys iirc so yeah. Great video man, keep up💪🏻
I love seeing videos like this where respect is actually put on Ash's name. I've seen so many videos where it's just a joke about how Ash gets stomped. Even if he hadn't gone all the way (and it was awesome that he did), I'd still have appreciated you treating him with respect and care as a combatant. Would be curious if Ash's ability to use moves in ways they're not meant to could ever be relevant, but that's a curiosity, not a complaint
Shikamaru literally binded the eight ninja that were tracking him and Naruto later that day with shadow possession. Just needed to put respect on my boy.
That is correct but that was showcased in the Konoha crush segment and as we stated we were only using feats the characters had up to that point, which shikamaru hadnt show the ability to trap multiple people at that point. If so there is a decent chance he could have stepped in during the forest of death to help sakura and sasuke. But this is true and we love Shikamaru around here
@@RoninDiaries Shikamaru in the Forest of Death was actually weaker, as he had trained for the finals under the assumption that he would have two matches. He became faster and stronger and has the feats to back it up. But yea Shika is a goated, and so are you guys for this epic video. Keep pushing
@@RoninDiariesbro it’s literally in the same day that he did that plus a ninja doesn’t show all of their move set shikamaru was keeping it under wraps lol
Love ash he lowkey stomps part one🔥 buuuuut The difference between Chidori and lightning blade is one requires more hand signs and needs the sharigan active to use. Sasuke has used the chidori while in base, Kakashi made purple lightning bc he no longer has the sharigan. It looks like kakashi gets a bigger speed amp than sasuke bc kakashi is literally a one trick pony.
Had to put it off an finish the vid today and you indeed cooked that was heat I knew it would have some crazy feats being a comedic kids show but wasn’t ready for mtn lvl feats your a chef
It would be cool if you could pick a team of Pokémon ash could use to potentially cheat on the first exam without resorting to the naruto method of passing.
Great video sage my only thing is that i feel like it would have been cool to put sage in team 7s position so that he fought oro and maybe it would be cool to go into the konoha crush
Great video man, I liked that you talked about downplaying the series in order to make this a more fair video because if we go off the consistent multiversal+ scaling then he obviously just destroys the verse. I just appreciate you taking the time to talk about why they were put around the Naruto levels because most people just downplay the series heavily or to be disingenuous about it.
A few things I wanted to say. 1. The Pokemon should work like a summon justu in Naruto 2. The Pokéball should work like a sealing justu so maybe he could use it to seal his opponent. 3. Shikamaru fight. (Totally not in response to another comment on this video) even if he can capture multiple people at this point and capture ash and Pikachu and the other Pokemon are in their balls and they couldn’t break out immediately. he could only hold for at most 30 minutes. The reason I say only for 30 minutes is because when he held the 8 sound chunie he says that he can only hold them for about two minutes. This could mean one of two things. He’s charkra would run out and they could escape. Or they could brute force their way out. I think it both because the longer he goes on the less charkra he’ll have to put into shadow possession which means it will be easier to break out.
I feel like swapping out the Konoha 12 for the Jujutsu High students in the Chunin Exams could be a really fun hypothetical! Theres just as many sorcerers as leaf genin, I wonder if theyd actually be able to do stop Orochimaru and Gaara/Shukaku without having Gamabunta in their back pocket
Ash Ketchum in the Chunin Exams wasn’t something I expected. He isn’t trained to fight like characters in Naruto and lacks their knowledge (and a lot of knowledge in general). But he’s incredibly resilient (physically and mentally) and is a great tactician. His Pokémon offer incredible diversity, power, and support. Ash could likely lead his team to victory in the battle rounds; even if the Naruto characters are superior fighters compared to Ash, they’d have to get past his Pokémon first. Which won’t be happening. Only Gaara and maybe Dosu would have a fair shot at that. Gaara could potentially kill Ash with his various sand techniques if he’s fast enough. But I definitely agree on the final assessment. Ash might be a skilled battler and may possess incredible determination but he’s not too bright, lacking in leadership skills, and is easily prone to giving into his emotions. Those aren’t qualities of a capable Chunin. Still, this was a pretty cool video. I’d like to see more of stuff like this. Maybe Ash Ketchum taking on the Dark Tournament from YuYu Hakusho.
AHHH!!! Finally! I have been waiting SO impatiently for this lmao. Fuckin HYPED. 21:20 “Mountain level thunderbolt” made me smile so big 😂 Pikachu gonna be murdering genin 💪🏻
Not saying this would change any of the outcomes of these fights, but if speed is equalized and the Pokémon aren’t acting on their own, then I think that it would be in the spirit of this challenge for Ash’s Pokémon to have a noticeable delay in their actions. Something similar to the delay puppet masters have with their puppets or other ninja in Naruto have with their summons. Ash has to make a decision, tell his Pokémon, and the Pokémon has to react and follow the command. There wouldn’t only be a delay, but Ash’s opponents might even be able to guess what each attack would be since Ash is saying it out loud (similar to how Naruto used to shout out his attacks). Again I know this wouldn’t change anything (Ash is bringing 6 fighters with better stats to all these fights), but I just figured it would be an interesting talking point.
Well beyblades are at universal level even breaking logic at many points with one protagonist defeating a reality warper while the other fought a god of destruction
It'd be cool to see this style of video for Digimon as well. See how a chosen child/digidestined would handle these scenarios. But regardless of that this video was great.
"In the world of pokemon, There is no trainer greater than Ash Ketchum." You mean the guy who not only has not caught as many Pokemon as others, but also failed to win more than one Pokemon tournament until just about the end of a decade long series?
The only person who has caught more Pokemon in the anime than Ash is Goh, and that's a given since Goh's goal is *literal* to catch every Pokemon until he reaches Mew And the last tournament Ash won before he retired as protagonist was the *World Championships* 😭 like dawg at least watch the series they're from if you're going to hate on a character you don't know nothing about
Question, I remember Pokémon outrunning the return call to the Poké ball, so couldn’t Shikamaru do the same thing when he’s possessing them? Though I'm still not sure how he could win.
@@___________0Z0X Thats correct and again i was slightly wrong. It goes up to +5 in priority but an example i can think of off the top of my head would be helping hand. Most protect type moves are +4 and things like fake out are +3 in priority. Hope this helps and sorry for the confusion :)
Great video yeah Pokémon is a very strong verse especially if you include legendary Pokémon so yeah I understand you have to low ball ash to make it fair
@@sageofthickcalves Would love to see you make a video about it. I'm also intrigued on crew positions for each Team Avatar member and if they'd recruit One Piece characters to their crew. Speaking of the crew, if you don't do the latter, then maybe adding alies of Team Avatar - like the Mechanic and his son - would be good and very interesting too.
Omfg I’d be so happy if this wasn’t a one-off!!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I wanna see Ash stomp Itachi with his Noctowl or somethin. Genjutsu vs hypnosis. We need some Charizard action 🔥
No Volt Tackle for Pikachu?Shikamaru caught multiple Sound ninja in shadow possession, but you already had A lengthy discussion about that in another comment thread
Yeah we felt like giving him Electro Web for more versatility. Shikamaru doesn’t do that until after the Chunin Exams, but we explained why it wouldn’t matter either way in the vid
@@sageofthickcalves mountain level lol it can’t be mountain level if team rocket always survive it what you gone say team rocks are that durable too huh that’s that comedy stuff her either dodge it or substitute
You say that you’re using Pokémon from each generation up to 6, but I’m curious, why is there no one from Gen 5 representing? And also, why not include Gen 7 as well. I get not including the Journeys Team because those Pokémon are overkill, but the Sun and Moon Pokémon should be fair game.
So while that was a good video, i feel like you downplayed shikamaru for 2 reasons. 1 is the one everyone's said already in an hour he'll be catching multiple people with shadow possessions, but that's not the part i care about. 2. You said if he catches a pokemon ash can just recall them. You bring up pokemon moves and abilities all the time, so allow me to bring up trapping moves/abilities. Trapping moves and abilities stop a pokemon from being switched out of battle unless they have a move that supersedes it. In shadow posessions case, I'd consider it the ability shadow tag... so, in theory, if he caught one of Ash's pokemon ash wouldn't be able to recall them. So if it was someone like infernape or greninj, maybe he could use their superior stats to fight ash? Or maybe he could go supervillainn and threaten them to make ash forfeit. What i think is most likely is he makes the Pokémon knock themself out. Power scalers always go by the logic that your output equates your endurancs, but that's just not true. This is especially true for pokemon, whose base stats state their specializations. All the Pokémon you gave ash except goodra are glass cannons. They output more than they can take, so if he catches one of them, he can punch himself until the pokemon faints. I do think he'd win that attrition because i believe shikamaru has relatively low ap, but.... ok, durability. Now, does this mean i think he'd win? God no..... but i think he has the ability to maybe take out a mon or 2 if he really tries.
Yeah if you treat it like shadow tag or something that would make sense. The problem is, they can all still hit him with and attack even while they’re under the shadow possession.
In the anime theyre often shown using more than four moves at several different instances, so we wanted to give the pokemon a little extra leeway but not make them overpowered by allowing them to keep every move theyve learned.
@@buddylee5712 The Alola league definitely had some shenanigans but the World Championships was a legit victory for him. Also, Ash sometimes got hoed due to plot, looking at Tobias coming out of nowhere with legendaries. And as someone who's watched Beyblade Metal Masters, I gotta say Masamune is a bigger fraud.
POV: you never watched the Pokemon anime and only listened to other talk about it 💀 brotha you have NO clue what you're talking about. the literal *plot* kept cheating him out of well deserved wins, until 25 years later where he rightfully earns the title of the World Champion, as he should. if anything, Ash is one of the only characters in anime who has *anti* plot armor, and still became the world champ despite it
Next Video: Ash vs Orochimaru
Senario: Orochimaru wants the secret to how Ash stays 10 years old forever
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If ash was allowed his full power the finals would be hilarious...
Gaara: I'm losing control
Shikaku comes out
Ash: Take his soul Gengar *Gigantamax gengar pops out*
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Or what about Melmetal? Pretty sure a giant steel Mythical would just power through almost everything they could throw at it. Especially if Ash use Corkscrew Crash.
Orochimaru would probably want Ash's body since he doesn't age
Bro 💀
I think a better argument for Shikamaru would be to say how almost all of Ash Pokémon has at least one move that cause light, which would cancel out of shadow control at least for the Pokémon.
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Ash’s durability is weird cos we all know it’s meant to be a gag and they don’t show injuries because it’s for little kids, can’t show him with burn tissue across his body so i don’t buy him being mountain/city level
ash pulling out melmetal against tenten would be hilarious
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Dinner and a show. A high-iron buffet and TenTen freaking out.
What a weird isekai idea. I can just imagine the leaf scientists trying to study the sealing jutsu of a pokeball😂
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Danzo wants to get Ash into ROOT or just steal some Pokémon DNA.
The claim that Shikamaru cannot catch multiple people simultaneously is incorrect, as he indeed captured an entire group of Sound ninja en route to Sasuke.Things like these make me glad I started a channel. Great vid overall tho
That’s during the konoha crush arc. They’re technically separate
@@sageofthickcalves No they are not. it's literally the same Shikamaru with less chakra lol. I think you are heavily overestimating the time gap. That's like saying CE Sasuke at full power is weaker than the Sasuke that was chasing Gaara before any mental amps. The only ones who clearly got stronger due to mental amps were Sasuke and Naruto. The slight amp from his battle with Temari would be unquantifiable and no reason it would take him from only being able to snag one person , to being able to catch more than 4. He also showed no surprise at being able to catch more than one person. Which would be the case if he were only able to catch one person before. Come on now. Do you also think base Sasuke became faster than weightless Lee while chasing Temari , kankuro and Gaara? Do you think he got much stronger by jumping over the exam walls since it was the start of the crush arc? Come on now
@@allmight3221 I’m not over estimating a time gap. I’m setting a hard cut off for during the Chunin Exams only due to the fact that several characters get mental amps. Also, we addressed the fact that if he did get both that it wouldn’t matter anyway.
@@sageofthickcalves. If your assumption were accurate, one would logically expect him to have disclosed his limit, similar to Naruto and Sasuke, as evidenced by their performance. Particularly since he was cognizant of the number of ninjas tailing them. He would've at least mentioned that he can only snag a single ninja while making his plan. Escalating from one to more than four adversaries is a significant jump. While not impossible with the correct mental amplification, logical proof is required. There was no significant emphasis on him becoming substantially stronger, which is typical when a character receives a mental boost that drastically alters their capabilities. That combined with him not mentioning a limit makes your claim highly unlikely.
Mentioning the futility of the point is unnecessary; my intent was simply to point out the flaw in the argument. I have watched the entire video and enjoyed it. The reason for suggesting it would be pointless is unclear, as if I would stop watching the video over a minor error.
@@allmight3221 again, the cutoff was clearly stated to he IN the Chunin Exams. No reason to make exceptions for anyone there, especially if the difference wouldn’t matter.
Honestly, this video is unexpected but well worth it. An insanely unique video. Great content.
Thank you so much!
Thank you, we thought it would be enjoyable and im glad we were able to deliver :)
Honestly, I'd argue that Ash *does* have the qualifications of a Chunin, and this entire video essentially explains why. Ash may not be book smart, but is Battle IQ is *off the charts,* literally. In this video, Ash is commanding 6 different Pokemon, each with their own quirks and abilities and powers and personalities, and is still able to help them use those powers to their fullest potential. Not only that, but he's able to use his Pokemon's abilities in tandem with the environment around him to overcome opponents he normally wouldn't be able to through brute strength.
Even if Ash was limited with his Pokemon, and needed to use different Shinobi for a hypothetical mission, Ash has shown the capability to competently command Pokemon in battle he's barely known (Hell, every single series Ash basically restarted with Pikachu, and was *still* on par with the strongest trainers of the region with these new teams). This is pretty much the reason Shikamaru got promoted to Chunin, and Ash's intellect in battles is on par with Shikamaru, if not higher. Ash may suck at Shogi, but he certainly knows how to command a team to win any fight *and* without them suffering any serious injuries, which more than qualifies him for a Chunin.
That’s a fair point 🤔 I just think he’s a bit emotionally immature
@@sageofthickcalves Hmm...maybe in the Original Series and Advanced Generation, but Ash has certainly matured emotionally since then, especially when you look at the way he behaves now in Journeys.
When Ash began his journey, he would constantly brag about his accomplishments, and overestimate his capabilities. But now, Ash always treats his opponents with respect no matter who they are, not underestimating their strength, and never mentions his accomplishments, only acting bashful when someone brings them up for him.
Like how Goh only found out Ash was the Alolan Champion because the All-Out brothers were fanboys of his.
@@afro025 yeah we were just looking at the first six gens, but I agree for later on
@@sageofthickcalves Wait, do you think Ash was emotionally immature in the XY anime? To be honest, that's when I believed he was the most mature, even including later series like Journeys and SM, but it seems like you disagree with that (as you said you were only looking at the first six gens)
Sorry for yapping a lot lol. Honestly, I'm really glad you made this video!! So many people don't put the respect on Ash's name which he deserves, and y'all clearly have done your research when it came to him and his Pokemon, so I have massive respect for you and ronin 🙏🏾 W video
I don't intend to have a toxic argument or anything, I genuinely just want to have a discussion with another person like you who gets Ash's character and his capabilities, and understand your stances on his character which differ from mine.
@@afro025 nah you’re good bro! I greatly appreciate it 🙏🏼 Yeah I’d just say even though he seemed quite mature in XY, I’m not sure if he showed the maturity necessary for leading a squad of shinobi into a life or death battle until much later on
Never seen a single episode of Pokemon, but Imma watch this anyways because I love the idea
Haha I appreciate you bro!
Yu-Gi-Oh! is better lol.
24:46 Video Idea since Ash wins Tsunade has Ash leads the Sasuke retrieval mission
Also Ashes Pokémon can also come out and jump someone. They more than once came out on their own and I’m pretty sure they’d be able to see this isn’t a Pokémon battle and would come out to protect him which could lead to insane combos and an overwhelming force.
You’re 100% correct
Limiting to gen 6 and down scaling was a great idea cause from alola onwards the scaling gets so insane, that it's funny, even before that with gen 4 and Cynthia, but ash and his pokemons only scale to her in journeys iirc so yeah.
Great video man, keep up💪🏻
Thank you so much! 🫡
I love seeing videos like this where respect is actually put on Ash's name. I've seen so many videos where it's just a joke about how Ash gets stomped. Even if he hadn't gone all the way (and it was awesome that he did), I'd still have appreciated you treating him with respect and care as a combatant.
Would be curious if Ash's ability to use moves in ways they're not meant to could ever be relevant, but that's a curiosity, not a complaint
Thank you! We really wanted to give Ash the respect he deserves so I’m glad you liked it 🙏🏼
Dude I've been binging these vs. The Chunin Exams videos and they're sooooo good! Ash's scaling was goofy, but it all checks out and I love it!
@@Golden_Raijin Thank you so much!
What an awesome topic! Im trying to see the next installment! Great video to you and Ronin!
Thanks brother!
This video. Deserves way more attention
Thank you so much!
It's good that it was capped to gen 6
The crazy inconsistant scaling with the ultra beasts would have made this a much more confusing video
Yeahhhhhh we talked about how crazy things get starting with gen 6 and past that is pretty wild. But if ash faces the akatuski 👀
I'm really happy there's a Pokémon playlist on this channel. That let's me know we're getting more Pokémon content.
Absolutely! I have a really cool collab coming up centered around MewTwo
Shikamaru literally binded the eight ninja that were tracking him and Naruto later that day with shadow possession.
Just needed to put respect on my boy.
Yes but are we calling these minny jobers even slightly comparable to pickachu
That is correct but that was showcased in the Konoha crush segment and as we stated we were only using feats the characters had up to that point, which shikamaru hadnt show the ability to trap multiple people at that point. If so there is a decent chance he could have stepped in during the forest of death to help sakura and sasuke. But this is true and we love Shikamaru around here
@@RoninDiaries Shikamaru in the Forest of Death was actually weaker, as he had trained for the finals under the assumption that he would have two matches. He became faster and stronger and has the feats to back it up. But yea Shika is a goated, and so are you guys for this epic video. Keep pushing
@@RoninDiariesbro it’s literally in the same day that he did that plus a ninja doesn’t show all of their move set shikamaru was keeping it under wraps lol
I just realize that they didn’t use Z moves, mega evolution or dynomax. Those kids would’ve been cooked for sure then. Lol
Pikachu's Z move is wild lol
I said this at random. I didn't think anyone would actually make it💀😭🤣
I got you 🫡
@@sageofthickcalves A real one fr🙏🏽
Love ash he lowkey stomps part one🔥
buuuuut The difference between Chidori and lightning blade is one requires more hand signs and needs the sharigan active to use.
Sasuke has used the chidori while in base, Kakashi made purple lightning bc he no longer has the sharigan.
It looks like kakashi gets a bigger speed amp than sasuke bc kakashi is literally a one trick pony.
Wait. . . How about a vid on if Ash (or Team Rocket) can catch the Tailed Beasts. That is thematic.
Maybe 👀👀
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That would be awesome, my vote is team rocket. It would be just like naruto abridged!😂
Had to put it off an finish the vid today and you indeed cooked that was heat I knew it would have some crazy feats being a comedic kids show but wasn’t ready for mtn lvl feats your a chef
Thanks brother! 🙏🏼
Yo, I just realized something. The finals aren't fair, it's basically a 1v6 in Ash’s favor.😂
I guess it’s 6 since ash greninja count as a duo
Yeah it’s like he has 6 ninja hounds that all have a chakra element 💀
Yeah maybe he’d have to be restricted to using 3 of them or something
@@Bizeecentral so it would be ash greninja lucario and pikachu
It would be cool if you could pick a team of Pokémon ash could use to potentially cheat on the first exam without resorting to the naruto method of passing.
Yeah we were trying to think of who he’d be able to use and all we could think of was Mr. Mime
@@sageofthickcalves He could probably use Gengar to go invisible and spy on people's answers.
@@GinIchimaru31 that goes hard
Great video sage my only thing is that i feel like it would have been cool to put sage in team 7s position so that he fought oro and maybe it would be cool to go into the konoha crush
Great video man, I liked that you talked about downplaying the series in order to make this a more fair video because if we go off the consistent multiversal+ scaling then he obviously just destroys the verse. I just appreciate you taking the time to talk about why they were put around the Naruto levels because most people just downplay the series heavily or to be disingenuous about it.
Thank you so much!
know this is gonna be gas next we gotta see jjk vs the chunin exams 🙏🏽👀
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Honestly gojos existence I'd an auto win.
A few things I wanted to say.
1. The Pokemon should work like a summon justu in Naruto
2. The Pokéball should work like a sealing justu so maybe he could use it to seal his opponent.
3. Shikamaru fight. (Totally not in response to another comment on this video) even if he can capture multiple people at this point and capture ash and Pikachu and the other Pokemon are in their balls and they couldn’t break out immediately. he could only hold for at most 30 minutes. The reason I say only for 30 minutes is because when he held the 8 sound chunie he says that he can only hold them for about two minutes. This could mean one of two things. He’s charkra would run out and they could escape. Or they could brute force their way out. I think it both because the longer he goes on the less charkra he’ll have to put into shadow possession which means it will be easier to break out.
Bro continues to put out the greatest crossovers of all time.
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I feel like swapping out the Konoha 12 for the Jujutsu High students in the Chunin Exams could be a really fun hypothetical! Theres just as many sorcerers as leaf genin, I wonder if theyd actually be able to do stop Orochimaru and Gaara/Shukaku without having Gamabunta in their back pocket
Ash Ketchum in the Chunin Exams wasn’t something I expected. He isn’t trained to fight like characters in Naruto and lacks their knowledge (and a lot of knowledge in general). But he’s incredibly resilient (physically and mentally) and is a great tactician. His Pokémon offer incredible diversity, power, and support.
Ash could likely lead his team to victory in the battle rounds; even if the Naruto characters are superior fighters compared to Ash, they’d have to get past his Pokémon first. Which won’t be happening. Only Gaara and maybe Dosu would have a fair shot at that. Gaara could potentially kill Ash with his various sand techniques if he’s fast enough.
But I definitely agree on the final assessment. Ash might be a skilled battler and may possess incredible determination but he’s not too bright, lacking in leadership skills, and is easily prone to giving into his emotions. Those aren’t qualities of a capable Chunin.
Still, this was a pretty cool video. I’d like to see more of stuff like this. Maybe Ash Ketchum taking on the Dark Tournament from YuYu Hakusho.
I generally want to see a sequel and the fact that Ash beats Sasuke is amazingly funny to me
Well if the video does well enough we want to make a sequel sooooo 👀👀👀👀👀👀
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He doesn't, but it's funny to think about it
Genuinely it’s possible that Sasuke may not be able to damage Ash lmao
HA!
If Shadow Posession works like the ability Shadow Tag and prevents switching, Shikamaru could be a lot more threatening
Id still be afraid for him tho. Whats he gonna do to a flamethrower or thunderbolt 💀
AHHH!!!
Finally!
I have been waiting SO impatiently for this lmao.
Fuckin HYPED.
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“Mountain level thunderbolt” made me smile so big 😂
Pikachu gonna be murdering genin 💪🏻
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the funny thing is you could scale ash to universal+ with infinite speed if you take some of the ultra necrozma scaling
@@Chad-jy9uk you’re not wrong
@@sageofthickcalves ash vs Goku would be interesting
@@Chad-jy9uk 👀
Not saying this would change any of the outcomes of these fights, but if speed is equalized and the Pokémon aren’t acting on their own, then I think that it would be in the spirit of this challenge for Ash’s Pokémon to have a noticeable delay in their actions. Something similar to the delay puppet masters have with their puppets or other ninja in Naruto have with their summons. Ash has to make a decision, tell his Pokémon, and the Pokémon has to react and follow the command. There wouldn’t only be a delay, but Ash’s opponents might even be able to guess what each attack would be since Ash is saying it out loud (similar to how Naruto used to shout out his attacks). Again I know this wouldn’t change anything (Ash is bringing 6 fighters with better stats to all these fights), but I just figured it would be an interesting talking point.
I ain’t need to see arbok cut in half 😭
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It’s just like seeing a snake summon get cut in half.
@@___________0Z0X naw because it’s in Pokémon
Love this, thumbnail heat🐐
Thanks brother! 🙏🏼
I swear sage be making the most creative vids 🔥
Thank you so much! 🙏🏼
Fun video!!! Definitely make more like this
Thank you!
It’s crazy how bayblades have even higher scaling then this💀💀💀
I need you to elaborate right now dude!
Well beyblades are at universal level even breaking logic at many points with one protagonist defeating a reality warper while the other fought a god of destruction
@@maniacgreen8609 are you talking about that guy that Tyson beat at the end of the original?
Yeah Brooklyn
And then Digimon gets even more bonkers with it's scaling.
It'd be cool to see this style of video for Digimon as well. See how a chosen child/digidestined would handle these scenarios.
But regardless of that this video was great.
Thanks bro!
This is a super cool idea
Thank you!
"In the world of pokemon, There is no trainer greater than Ash Ketchum."
You mean the guy who not only has not caught as many Pokemon as others, but also failed to win more than one Pokemon tournament until just about the end of a decade long series?
He won the WORLD tournament dawg. That means he’s the strongest trainer in the world
The only person who has caught more Pokemon in the anime than Ash is Goh, and that's a given since Goh's goal is *literal* to catch every Pokemon until he reaches Mew
And the last tournament Ash won before he retired as protagonist was the *World Championships* 😭 like dawg at least watch the series they're from if you're going to hate on a character you don't know nothing about
Question, I remember Pokémon outrunning the return call to the Poké ball, so couldn’t Shikamaru do the same thing when he’s possessing them?
Though I'm still not sure how he could win.
What do you mean by could Shikamaru do the same to them? Like catch them with his shadow before ash returns them?
Interesting video! I wonder about gaara vs ash or kakashi vs ash. If you put the yellow flash against Ash, ash is toast 😆
I mean tbh you have to get into the war arc to get opponents who scale to his speed
sucker punch is only +1 priority.
You are totally right and I misspoke 😅
@@RoninDiaries can you give me an example of a move that has +6 priority? I know that extreme speed has a +2 right?
@@___________0Z0X protect, i think. It goes before everything else. (And every other protect-esque move, like spiky shield)
@@___________0Z0X Thats correct and again i was slightly wrong. It goes up to +5 in priority but an example i can think of off the top of my head would be helping hand. Most protect type moves are +4 and things like fake out are +3 in priority. Hope this helps and sorry for the confusion :)
@@Ĺm3j thanks
Hmmm never thought of this Match up I will let you cook
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love these creative video ideas
Thanks brother!
Shikamaru catching one of the Pokémon could work similarly to the Ability Shadow Tag. Meaning he wouldn’t be able to switch out.
im pretty sure he had ash able to just call them all out at once.
Pikachu just blasts him with a thunderbolt
Ash’s raw plot induced durability is far too much for the Genin to deal with
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I think yall could have given ash a better team
Please do a part 2.
Leave a like 🙏🏼
8:53 Uhh, no. Sucker Punch also has +1 priority. Moves like Protect and Fake Out are +4 and +3 respectively, but not Sucker Punch.
Yeah we realized that Ronin misspoke once the audio was already done
Jayden Yugi vs The Chunin exams
Bet
Ma and Pa would be great Pokemon
100%
Use frog song!
What would their movesets be? 🤔🤔
@@RoninDiaries hydro pump, sing, hyper boys, calm mind.
@@___________0Z0X love it!! Also love the move hyper boys. Its always super effective 😎
HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING UP WITH THESE 🔥🔥🔥
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How did this video have 1 like when it had no views ?
break in the matrix
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Sometimes views render slowly on here. Luke rn it’s less than half on here than it is on YT Studio
@@sageofthickcalves ah I see great video btw
@@Julian.noa21 thanks brotha!
AYYY LOOK WHO IT IS ❤️❤️
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These characters have substitution jutsu
Won’t matter
@@sageofthickcalves Why not?
@@brobladeroblox3100 most of them aren’t skilled enough with it for it to make a difference
@@sageofthickcalves It's an e rank jutsu that take very little chakra
and yet these characters never use the substitution jutsu themselves in their fights from the actual series
Great video yeah Pokémon is a very strong verse especially if you include legendary Pokémon so yeah I understand you have to low ball ash to make it fair
Get it to 1k likes and we’ll be able to stop low balling him haha
@sageofthickcalves You should pit Ash against Godzilla
@@eduardopantoja9115 🤔
@@eduardopantoja9115 Which one?
I’d’ve loved to see G-Max Pikachu vs Shukaku
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Ash vs the konoha 11 need that
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Pikachu without volt tackle? I am appalled
Hahaha we talked about it, but we decided on electroweb for versatility
Eyyyyyy ma boi is making it through I guses he joins team avatar with that
Here's an idea. How far would Team Avatar go in One Piece?
Pretty far, depending on how you scale them
@@sageofthickcalves Would love to see you make a video about it. I'm also intrigued on crew positions for each Team Avatar member and if they'd recruit One Piece characters to their crew. Speaking of the crew, if you don't do the latter, then maybe adding alies of Team Avatar - like the Mechanic and his son - would be good and very interesting too.
@@SantiagoMarques100 yeah that would be dope
Do you know, that ash was able to dodge pikachu’s attacks
Yup!
How high does Ash consistently scale taking in to account SM and Journeys?
Massively FTL in speed with mountain - continental AP and durability scaling
Most creative video
@@gemkilu2842 follow up coming soon
Hey Sage, what if Shaggy and Scooby from Scooby Doo did the chunin exam.
They dominate
Bro should of done red
That’s overkill 💀
@@firelizardryko fr
Hashirama vs the Chunnin exams when?
Bro 💀
I need Ash vs the Akatsuki
Let’s get it to 1k likes!
BW Ash is done for
Notice how we didnt choose any pokemon from that generation 💀💀
Omfg I’d be so happy if this wasn’t a one-off!!!!
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I wanna see Ash stomp Itachi with his Noctowl or somethin. Genjutsu vs hypnosis.
We need some Charizard action 🔥
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I dunno, Hypnosis accuracy is 60 that shit might just miss.
@@numberhunter62 you right 😂
No Volt Tackle for Pikachu?Shikamaru caught multiple Sound ninja in shadow possession, but you already had A lengthy discussion about that in another comment thread
Yeah we felt like giving him Electro Web for more versatility.
Shikamaru doesn’t do that until after the Chunin Exams, but we explained why it wouldn’t matter either way in the vid
@@sageofthickcalves I get your reasoning for both decisions. Good video as usual
@@TheGloomyRainVT thank you!
Sucker punch isn’t +6 priority chiefs.
-competitive Pokémon player
@@APplaysmons yeah we realized that after the video was up 💀 Ronin messaged me about it and I was like “Well it’s too late now brother” 🤣
@@sageofthickcalves lmao its all good, you got the point across regardless. great video mate
@@APplaysmons thanks brother!
Ash stops at shikamaru lol 😂
How’s Shikamaru dealing with a mountain level thunderbolt
@@sageofthickcalves mountain level lol it can’t be mountain level if team rocket always survive it what you gone say team rocks are that durable too huh that’s that comedy stuff her either dodge it or substitute
@@frankiejones7858 yes they’re that durable. Look up Ash Ketchum scaling vs Battles Wiki. You’ll see how exactly they come up with the calculations.
i'd like to see shikamaru destroy an entire mountain with one attack lmao
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no wonder he didn’t use alola or journeys ash cuz gengar memetal dragonite and dracofish + lucrio solos
You say that you’re using Pokémon from each generation up to 6, but I’m curious, why is there no one from Gen 5 representing? And also, why not include Gen 7 as well. I get not including the Journeys Team because those Pokémon are overkill, but the Sun and Moon Pokémon should be fair game.
Honesty we just didn’t want to be redundant and the stronger Pokemon we could’ve chosen from gen 5 weren’t good fits for the team
I'm gonna say it, ash vs akatsuki
I'm a pokemon fan but i'm pretty sure ash loses this one
(Yes i know my english is trubbish)
Your English is good!
I think you’ll be surprised at how well he does against them tbh
So while that was a good video, i feel like you downplayed shikamaru for 2 reasons.
1 is the one everyone's said already in an hour he'll be catching multiple people with shadow possessions, but that's not the part i care about.
2. You said if he catches a pokemon ash can just recall them. You bring up pokemon moves and abilities all the time, so allow me to bring up trapping moves/abilities. Trapping moves and abilities stop a pokemon from being switched out of battle unless they have a move that supersedes it. In shadow posessions case, I'd consider it the ability shadow tag... so, in theory, if he caught one of Ash's pokemon ash wouldn't be able to recall them.
So if it was someone like infernape or greninj, maybe he could use their superior stats to fight ash? Or maybe he could go supervillainn and threaten them to make ash forfeit. What i think is most likely is he makes the Pokémon knock themself out.
Power scalers always go by the logic that your output equates your endurancs, but that's just not true. This is especially true for pokemon, whose base stats state their specializations. All the Pokémon you gave ash except goodra are glass cannons. They output more than they can take, so if he catches one of them, he can punch himself until the pokemon faints. I do think he'd win that attrition because i believe shikamaru has relatively low ap, but.... ok, durability. Now, does this mean i think he'd win? God no..... but i think he has the ability to maybe take out a mon or 2 if he really tries.
Yeah if you treat it like shadow tag or something that would make sense. The problem is, they can all still hit him with and attack even while they’re under the shadow possession.
Do team avatar vs Enies lobby cp9
Idk what Enies lobby is
w vid
Thank you!
Couldn't Ash become a tokunin later on? Or something like Naruto or Sasuke as their ranks are Chunin but are treated as tactical nukes.
@@aliastheabnormal ash would rank up later, yes. But Sasuke and Naruto are not Chunin
@@sageofthickcalves Misspelling, sorry.
@@aliastheabnormal all good!
Ohh I thought this was another ronin lol
Please give me another ash vs naruto video
Coming relatively soon 🙏🏼
pokemon can only have four moves why give 5
In the anime theyre often shown using more than four moves at several different instances, so we wanted to give the pokemon a little extra leeway but not make them overpowered by allowing them to keep every move theyve learned.
@@RoninDiaries Everyone remembers the legendary 6 move Snorlax in Battle Frontier.
And of course we know Ash is a hacker.
@@RoninDiaries thats only in the first season which is a strange one but fair enough
Ash never caught a legendary Pokémon can’t call him the very best like know one ever else could he could’ve caught a Latias but decided not too
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Bro what is ash gonna do 😭
Watch the vid. His scaling is CRAZY
This has to be a joke 😂 Ash Ketchum is one of the biggest frauds in Anime 😂
Ash is a DOG
No less of a fraud than Lee, who's only victory was against a clone of himself.
@sageofthickcalves As far as power scaling yes, but narratively he's a fraud he needed plot armor and cheating just to win his last league LMAO
@@buddylee5712 The Alola league definitely had some shenanigans but the World Championships was a legit victory for him.
Also, Ash sometimes got hoed due to plot, looking at Tobias coming out of nowhere with legendaries.
And as someone who's watched Beyblade Metal Masters, I gotta say Masamune is a bigger fraud.
POV: you never watched the Pokemon anime and only listened to other talk about it 💀 brotha you have NO clue what you're talking about. the literal *plot* kept cheating him out of well deserved wins, until 25 years later where he rightfully earns the title of the World Champion, as he should. if anything, Ash is one of the only characters in anime who has *anti* plot armor, and still became the world champ despite it