The RUTHLESS Execution Of The Female French Traitor Shot By The Resistance

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @jazzopera
    @jazzopera Год назад +125

    Coco Chanel didn't seem to face any consequences for her "horizontal collaboration."

    • @zuckfacegobbels4527
      @zuckfacegobbels4527 Год назад +33

      HANDS OFF THE ELITES PAL! .......lol

    • @rg20322
      @rg20322 Год назад +17

      Exactly - she slept with the enemy, contributed to the Germans, and finally people are starting to point this out.
      She did this for survival at the expense of how many?

    • @roymonaghan5765
      @roymonaghan5765 Год назад

      Funny how when it's the rich they tend to skate away from consequences. The fact that people continued to buy her products after the war was sickening. One rule for the rich, another for the poor. I must say this though I'm guilty of buying Boss aftershave and Hugo did his best to make those evil scumbag Nazi's fashionable uniforms.

    • @terrymarvin5643
      @terrymarvin5643 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@zuckfacegobbels4527floyd

    • @Gurl-5150
      @Gurl-5150 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@rg20322 She stole the perfume (Chanel 5) from a Jewish man.

  • @davidhull1481
    @davidhull1481 Год назад +74

    How convenient for the French to have a scapegoat to point the finger at, so they could avoid the big question about overall national collaboration.

    • @michaeltaylor8835
      @michaeltaylor8835 Год назад +7

      exactly

    • @George196207
      @George196207 Год назад

      Not a scape goat a fucking traitor along with the entire Vichy government.

    • @tonyclough9844
      @tonyclough9844 Год назад +3

      President Pompaydu was working in Vijgy France when occupied sending Jews to concentration camps.

    • @songsmith31a
      @songsmith31a Год назад

      The political schism in the French political and military set-ups was a big problem and it was a tricky
      situation to negotiate for the Allied High Command. The post-war situation was a source of
      considerable concern, with fears that communist interests could become influential and effect
      life in France after peace had been won.

    • @davidhull1481
      @davidhull1481 Год назад +1

      @@songsmith31a Granted, however my comment stands. And, FWIW, god help anyone who might try to democratically elect whatever politician. Just look what the CIA did in Guatemala and Iran.

  • @TarkusT
    @TarkusT Год назад +75

    Never forget that Vichy France was totally on the Nazi side during WW2, even having combat fights with the Allies, but De Gaulle found it "inconvenient" in post WW2 to deal with this issue. Most of these women did what they did to survive and many without choice but with the exception of a few Vichy leaders that aspect of French history goes unpunished and unrecorded. Easier to brutalize a woman than diminish the "glory de Francais" I guess? So before we judge "betrayal" let's not forget how high the betrayal occurred and that NOTHING happened.

    • @tommycockles2947
      @tommycockles2947 Год назад +12

      when you consider that the french police helped the nazis to round up jews,the women were the easy targets

    • @riccardobigi9524
      @riccardobigi9524 Год назад

      onore e gloria per Violetta Morris

    • @riccardobigi9524
      @riccardobigi9524 Год назад

      Se vuoi essere dalla nostra parte devi essere più esplicito

    • @tonyclough9844
      @tonyclough9844 11 месяцев назад +6

      President Pompidou was working in vichy France, sending Jews to the camps only don't tell anyone.

    • @kevinhughes720
      @kevinhughes720 5 месяцев назад

      Betrayal? Look at France and the rest of Europe now! it is more than evident that De gaulle and the communist resistance betrayed their countrymen and country. If only the French after Dakar and Mers-el-kabir had joined the Christian Germans then Europe may have stood a chance.

  • @bertram_oredrock
    @bertram_oredrock Год назад +163

    Facts are facts and she was killed for collaborating with the nazis against the French Resistance. Thanks for the great history lesson. I learn something new with every video. My Father and several uncles were WWII Veterans. One uncle was killed in France a few months after D-Day.

    • @harryeisermann2784
      @harryeisermann2784 Год назад +12

      funny. the resistance could have excecuted halve the population, Hahaha they collaborating in the Vichy goverment...

    • @wolfiemum461
      @wolfiemum461 Год назад

      Facts are statements written by the winning side

    • @martytrueblood5902
      @martytrueblood5902 Год назад

      made in Japan
      now
      thanks loser
      you lost the war anyway

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 Год назад

      There were far more collaborators than resisters in occupied France. The French Resistance was largely composed of Stalinist communists who would have joyously collaborated with the Soviets if they had occupied France.

    • @George196207
      @George196207 Год назад

      The Vichy government was a socialist left wing group who seized on the moment of the German socialist invasion to get into power . All of them should have been executed after the war but nope they managed to retain much control ! Even taking France full communist . France was not an ally in WW2 but a liability as much as Italy ! History rewrote to avoid the truth and dealing with the socialist in a less then violent brutal way they deserved. Instead USA rebuilt the ungrateful bastards and let them live.

  • @ms.annthrope415
    @ms.annthrope415 Год назад +34

    The French couldn't beat the Germans even when they had the most mechanized army in Europe and the vaunted Maginot Line. The Germans went around and reached Paris in 2 months. The French surrendered miles before the Germans even reached their positions. So who did they take their frustrations and humiliations onto? The women who slepted with the Germans who strutted around, going to their nightclubs and cafes, strong and virile, pending freely while the French army shriveled up like a wrinkled scrotal sack in cold water. Many women slept with Germans to feed their families. Some slept with German officers for protection. Some slept with Germans as they saw they would be he better off with the winners than the losers.
    But to assist in torturing and execution of her fellow Resistance fighters earned her a well-deserved death.

    • @independentthought3390
      @independentthought3390 Год назад +5

      Yeah, it's hard to not notice that the French didn't really mind the occupation all that much.

    • @riccardobigi9524
      @riccardobigi9524 Год назад +1

      Onore e gloria alle ottime Donne che hanno dormito con i nostri camerati

    • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
      @smtandearthboundsuck8400 11 месяцев назад

      Wtf is this take she's literally a nazi informant and torturer. How is she a scapegoat?

  • @myles5101
    @myles5101 Год назад +35

    I am sure, Violette wore the pants in the family.

  • @paulboucher806
    @paulboucher806 Год назад +27

    There's a huge hole in this story and it centres around the car Violette was travelling in. How could the car be 'sabotaged' to the point where it broke down right where it could be surrounded by the French resistance?

    • @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq
      @MichaelJohnson-tw7dq 7 месяцев назад

      And how did she have access to the information she allegedly gave to the Nazis? Did every disgraced lesbian sports heroine in France have access to blueprints of the maginot line, and the plans of the Souma tank? Did resistance cells often confide in public figures with know Nazi ties?

  • @tinderbox218
    @tinderbox218 Год назад +36

    I feel like they could have got their justice without machine-gunning a car full of children in the process.

    • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
      @smtandearthboundsuck8400 11 месяцев назад

      Yup, today if this was done by brown people they'd get called dirty terrorists.

    • @johnw8984
      @johnw8984 6 месяцев назад +1

      War is hell.

  • @MurrayJoe
    @MurrayJoe Год назад +151

    She isn’t a scapegoat if she spied for the Germans before the war. I can understand her being angry & bitter after being denied entry to women’s sports, but that’s no excuse to support a very evil and nasty regime like Nazi Germany. And to help the Germans round up resistance fighters or even assist in their torture was totally unacceptable, that’s not being a scapegoat, that’s being a willing participant in vile crimes against her country and individuals therein.

    • @giorgosfylaktou2610
      @giorgosfylaktou2610 Год назад +8

      I AGREE 👍 WITH YOU. THIS IS NOT EXCUSE BETRAYING YOUR OWN COUNTRY

    • @cappiece3786
      @cappiece3786 Год назад +8

      She was a man

    • @syos1979
      @syos1979 Год назад

      ​@@cappiece3786In an era before there was any medical treatments for transgender people? Where there wasn't even a coined term for it? You're smoking that pack bro.

    • @zuckfacegobbels4527
      @zuckfacegobbels4527 Год назад +7

      She would fit right in with Anti-fa Today

    • @MurrayJoe
      @MurrayJoe Год назад +7

      @@zuckfacegobbels4527 I often call ATIFA, the Fascists pretending to be anti fascists.

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 Год назад +48

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
    ― Voltaire

    • @alfavulcan4518
      @alfavulcan4518 Год назад +9

      Sounds like today

    • @mikesmith5083
      @mikesmith5083 Год назад +1

      @@alfavulcan4518totally… just look at Trump world!

    • @alfavulcan4518
      @alfavulcan4518 Год назад

      @@mikesmith5083 woke Biden world where men think they are women, women think they are furries, prices for everything are skyrocketing, crime is out of control with lib states making laws making it illegal to stop thieves ( cali) and you are obsessing over Trump. Makes perfect sense

    • @thegroove2000
      @thegroove2000 Год назад

      Aint nothing changed. @@alfavulcan4518

    • @hotstepper887
      @hotstepper887 Год назад

      If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, eventually the people will come to believe it ~ Joseph Goebbels, 1941. You only need to say it once to an American, as long as it was the American government saying it, they'd all believe it.

  • @RobertThomson-y4m
    @RobertThomson-y4m Год назад +51

    My grandfather was in the liberation army in the Netherlands. After the war he only cried when talking about the treatment of these young women and the Belsen camp, that he couldn't speak about. He always said that they were only young women who shouldn't have been treated like this. However, the British officers told the troops not to get involved in civilian revenge.

    • @kevinhughes720
      @kevinhughes720 Год назад

      Liar.

    • @Bellthorian
      @Bellthorian Год назад

      Those women showed the true nature of women and how they will easily betray people or even their country if it benefited them directly.

    • @RobertThomson-y4m
      @RobertThomson-y4m Год назад +2

      @@kevinhughes720 liar?

    • @remittanceman4685
      @remittanceman4685 Год назад

      The British troops probably had mixed feelings. Sure the punishments were brutal and I am sure many Brits and Canadians felt a bit uneasy about them, but......
      For a start they'd come from a country that had been bombed heavily by the Germans, they probably had friends or relatives who had been killed by Germans and they'd been subjected to five or six years of anti-German propaganda. On top of that they were being told by the locals, who they knew to be the good guys that had suffered under the Germans, that the people being punished deserved. They were traitors and collaborators. Then finally add the knowledge they needed the cooperation of the locals to ensure there was no trouble in their rear areas and large garrisons were not needed.
      Given all that, one can understand why British and Canadian officers (though probably not Dutch, Polish or Check ones) frequently ordered their men to turn a blind eye to examples of local justice.

    • @kevinhughes720
      @kevinhughes720 Год назад

      What do you mean by "Liberation Army"?

  • @valerieb.4912
    @valerieb.4912 9 месяцев назад +4

    My grandmother was one who had her head shaven and she was let go(excommunicated) instead of executed, because she came from the high society.

  • @anthonycalbillo9376
    @anthonycalbillo9376 Год назад +39

    Have you ever heard of Max Federmann? He was a Jewish resistance fighter, and was in Italy, but later moved to the United States. I met him, and would listen to his stories (because he lived in my old home city.)

    • @mosin_boi
      @mosin_boi Год назад +7

      Please tell me some of his stories.

    • @anthonycalbillo9376
      @anthonycalbillo9376 Год назад +7

      @@mosin_boi Well, all I know is he was in Germany, his older brother went to China, his father escaped to England. In 1936, he made it into Italy. He executed a spy, and after he married his wife, he came to the United States.

    • @Cokehead_Drug_Addict_Zelensky
      @Cokehead_Drug_Addict_Zelensky Год назад +2

      @@anthonycalbillo9376 Did he get thrown into the cage with the eagle and the bear or fall victim to the pedal-powered head bashing machine?

    • @MoparMissileDivision
      @MoparMissileDivision Год назад +4

      Heard of him but never met him. You are a lucky person to have learned from his wisdom!

    • @Dirleberger
      @Dirleberger Год назад +1

      @@anthonycalbillo9376was wollte der in Deutschland?

  • @jb-xc4oh
    @jb-xc4oh Год назад +32

    The fabulous "Resistance" only numbered about 5,000 people out of population of 41 million........somewhat embarassing in the overall scheme of things.

    • @Panda-gs5lt
      @Panda-gs5lt Год назад +2

      Couldn’t agree more … the French were extremely hypocritical considering half the country was Vichy France and many French gave up Jews with ease … women were easy targets and paid the ultimate price for the country’s complicity

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh Год назад

      @@Panda-gs5lt Well said...!!

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 Год назад +12

      Funny how the resistance numbers suddenly increased after 6th June 1944 !

    • @BFOP15
      @BFOP15 Год назад +4

      This number doesn't exist anywhere.
      To show how stupid this number is.
      Free French Forces were around 73000 from summer 1940 to 1943....
      In summer 1944 regular French Army was to engage 260 000 maquisards from inner France.
      In summer 1940 no resistance organisation existed in France, so but they were already individuals who acted as resistant.
      For exemple on November 11th 1940 in Paris alone around 10 000 people mainly students gathered in Place de l'étoile to commemorate the armistice of 1918 and the victory over Germany despite the invader's prevention.
      In 1943 with the STO it's tens of thousands of French who joined the maquis.
      More reasonably it's believed 5% of the French were involved in resistance acts on a daily basis from 1940 to 1943.
      The same amount involved in collaboration from 1940 to 1944.

    • @unclestuka8543
      @unclestuka8543 Год назад

      @@BFOP15 Shall we say resistance activity increased after 6/6/44 , which could mean an increase in numbers engaged .

  • @MH3GL
    @MH3GL Год назад +14

    Generally, people betray their country because they feel their country has betrayed them first.
    I wonder if there's any group of people today who could relate to that sentiment....🤔
    She probably didn't give a damn what the Nazi's stood for. All that mattered was "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
    Judge her as you will -but dont forget to judge yourself just as harshly, first.

    • @johnjohnon8767
      @johnjohnon8767 Год назад +3

      How many people in this country would help an invader of our country? I'd say half .

    • @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
      @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls Год назад

      Lol Russian troll 😅
      Get f'd

    • @songsmith31a
      @songsmith31a Год назад

      Certainly, an interesting point for debate. The UK had a similar e xperience with the Cold War spies
      recruited by Russia, with the likes of Burgess et al acting against their own country.

    • @impulse_xs
      @impulse_xs 4 месяца назад

      I understand she was upset over how she was unfairly treated in sport, but that’s not really a “betrayal” that justifies personally carrying out the torture of your own innocent countrymen.

  • @thierry6761
    @thierry6761 Год назад +2

    Thank s so much for this video, as French national I know the history of my country but you gave us such unknown details concerning the collaboration and the spying the description in detail of several personality and their acts etc..the images of your video are rare , amazing Thank you 🙏 for your good work

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 Год назад +57

    She sounds pretty based in her own messed up way. But most importantly, to borrow Borat’s idiom, she was “strong on plow”.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 Год назад +7

      Wizard sleeves, hehehe

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +5

      @@sid2112 : Greetings, fellow man of culture.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 Год назад +3

      @@samy7013 *tips hat*

    • @I-wont-read-your-replies
      @I-wont-read-your-replies Год назад +4

      "How do i know this will not happen with the car"
      😂😂

    • @g4wwk-k2f
      @g4wwk-k2f Год назад +2

      Sacha Baron Cohen, has turned Woke

  • @michaeldelsoldato2905
    @michaeldelsoldato2905 Год назад +22

    She looks like she could play defensive tackle for the Cowboys.

    • @Tnt53499
      @Tnt53499 Год назад +1

      Yes, and would have been hired as a line backer had she not been terminated.

    • @shelbynamels973
      @shelbynamels973 Год назад

      ... and she'd be good at it.

    • @300thNPC
      @300thNPC 5 месяцев назад

      Nice bewbs tho

  • @andrewdoubtfire4700
    @andrewdoubtfire4700 Год назад +27

    Is it unfair to say, “yet Coco Chanel got away Scot free”

    • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
      @StalinTheMan0fSteel Год назад +10

      Coco had friends in English high society, including Churchill's family.

    • @Clem_Fandango11
      @Clem_Fandango11 Год назад

      ​@@StalinTheMan0fSteelIt's got bugger all to do with the "English". She lived in Paris and the French could have bumped her off any time after the war. They were responsible for their intelligence and reprisals.

    • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
      @StalinTheMan0fSteel Год назад

      @@Clem_Fandango11 Churchill had a lot of influence with the French.

    • @Clem_Fandango11
      @Clem_Fandango11 Год назад +5

      @@StalinTheMan0fSteel no he didn't. De Gaulle was who the French listened to, and he hated Churchill, and if you think someone like Coco Chanel was important with all the other shit that was going on with the war your wrong. Churchill had no influence at all.

    • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
      @StalinTheMan0fSteel Год назад +1

      @@Clem_Fandango11 LOL! You need to go do some reading!

  • @odysseus1959
    @odysseus1959 11 месяцев назад +3

    Odd the French found their pew pew's after the Germans left. In the Marines we had a saying, want to buy a French Army pew pew ? Never been shot, only dropped once.

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Год назад +4

    Also in Denmark we had female swimmers who chose to comped in Germany, but without committing treason. But their carriers became ruined after the war and only very late they became reinstated as the brilliant sportswomen they actually were.

  • @noahgresham7512
    @noahgresham7512 Год назад +13

    love the content ... but dude, the rhythm of your delivery is bloody infuriating

    • @tolkkeen
      @tolkkeen Год назад +4

      It's like listening to a capybara trying to sing an opera 😂

    • @Idcanymore510
      @Idcanymore510 10 месяцев назад

      I know, dreary, poor vocabulary, incoherent structure and that god-awful monotonous drone of a voice!

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@tolkkeen : You kinda nailed it, ngl.

  • @daskritterhaus5491
    @daskritterhaus5491 Год назад +28

    even the nazis detested this behaviour, but weren't above using those who engage.

    • @Riskmangler
      @Riskmangler Год назад

      History shows that the Nazis weren't above anything.

    • @wordsofcheresie936
      @wordsofcheresie936 Год назад +1

      I'm guessing that Hitler and the Nazis held their noses when dealing with her. They probably thought that she was vile, but also useful in achieving their goals.

  • @JayS1889
    @JayS1889 Год назад +11

    It’s a tragedy that innocent children were caught in this deception.

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 Год назад

      Perpetuated by a woman.....look it up. Women are the most dangerous people when it comes to young children and the elderly. It's sick. "More empathetic" my a.....numbers don't lie....

    • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
      @smtandearthboundsuck8400 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah but they were white freedom fighters taking out their frustration on an already beaten enemy.
      But brown people killing children in an act of resistance to ongoing oppression is wrong 😡

  • @susangutrugianios2241
    @susangutrugianios2241 Год назад +14

    Thank You
    Their so much information you bring to our lives in regards to the past.

    • @stevegray5709
      @stevegray5709 Год назад +1

      'Their so much information you.....' FFS did you actually attend at any time?

  • @robertrudisill5777
    @robertrudisill5777 Год назад +13

    Leaving out the sketchy past, Hitler was interested in her because she looks similar to Geli Rabual

    • @regiment6541
      @regiment6541 Год назад +2

      Interesting observation 🤔

    • @warwarneverchanges4937
      @warwarneverchanges4937 Год назад +4

      Perhaps but Geli had a similar thick face but was alot more feminine, perhaps the interest was to convince her into the lebensborn with her athletic and large build.

  • @sibes4
    @sibes4 Год назад +27

    No sympathy for traitors

    • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
      @bavariancarenthusiast2722 Год назад +3

      Who were traitors? It's so easy to judge 100 years after. Watch and learn from it!

  • @StalinTheMan0fSteel
    @StalinTheMan0fSteel Год назад +23

    In for a penny, in for a pound! all collaborators were marked for retribution.

  • @Arfabiscuit
    @Arfabiscuit Год назад +21

    No ruthless here she got exactly what she deserved unlike the ones she betrayed .

  • @Whatt787
    @Whatt787 Год назад +12

    Sounds like they did a Bonnie and Clyde on her and the others

  • @gonefishing167
    @gonefishing167 Год назад +110

    Thank you, I had never heard of her. It may sound brutal but she didn’t meet as violent end as many whom she had betrayed. Hard to imagine how anyone could turn against their nation ( unless it was a nation like the Nazis) , especially knowing the horror that was going on. Sounds like she liked violence for itself and, perhaps , the war gave her the cover she needed to do what she liked best. Her violent nature would not be permitted in peacetime - one hopes. 👍👍🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

    • @rayhinto
      @rayhinto Год назад

      Whine about the violence the West causing in Ukraine with their expansions. Or in Libya, In Afghanistan. Kosovo, Vietnam, South America etc. Or the atrocities that are caused everyday of the pure inhuman Tyranny in China with organ harvesting and suppressing human rights in every aspect. It is just pathetic to jump on the Nazis while we are having are global Conspiracies of multiple Nation to create total control over Mankind

    • @loarnotoole36
      @loarnotoole36 Год назад

      ...complete fiction ....maybe she did this , maybe she did that , she was murdered as were innocent women and children on hearsay by thugs who were on the side of the paedophile british monarchy

    • @Balenza345
      @Balenza345 Год назад

      I live in the UK and have turned against my war mongering nation regarding the conflict in Ukraine.
      Its not that difficult considering the idiots we have in power.
      Glory to Russia.

    • @jackieallen3344
      @jackieallen3344 Год назад +1

      I haven’t heard of her either. But apparently the resistance knew who she was maybe she had turned some information over to her colleagues about they are resistant comrades, and there it is, she was a torturing resistance members and pay the price 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @idonotwantahandle2
      @idonotwantahandle2 Год назад

      French society should have been kinder to her rather than producing someone who didn't care for her country or people.

  • @robbybee70
    @robbybee70 Год назад +1

    any photos of her wrestling or info on style

  • @your_royal_highness
    @your_royal_highness Год назад +6

    Dutch did not like their collaborators either. I will say the US troops did not feel the French gave a hoot about them and in turn the feeling became mutual.

    • @indy5624
      @indy5624 Год назад

      Many Brits feel the same about the French.

    • @fabs8498
      @fabs8498 11 месяцев назад

      @@indy5624Brits ? I don't think. The american point of view about is very biaised by politics.

  • @smallhelmonabigship3524
    @smallhelmonabigship3524 Год назад +12

    This video does leave a lot of unanswered questions, that must be answered. Otherwise things don't add up. If, before the war she gave the Germans info on the French tank, and the Maginot line, how did she obtain the classified information? Especially if she already was not trusted? It had to have been classified right? If it was public knowledge, then why would they need her? Were there other collaborators in the French government feeding her the info? And even during the war, if she was so hated and mistrusted, how on earth did she obtain so much info on the French underground? I have never heard this story before, so I think the video creator should clarify it.

    • @OptimalToast
      @OptimalToast Год назад +1

      All speculation on my part, but wouldn't surprise me if she got tank info from people within the motorsport circle, could of been engineers, mechanics, fabricators, etc. who also had professions within the military or associated with businesses that were contracted by it. Again, all speculation, I'd also like to know the actual details. Given the interest in boxing/violence, I imagine the use of coercion was a popular tactic of theirs.

    • @smallhelmonabigship3524
      @smallhelmonabigship3524 Год назад +3

      @@OptimalToast Maybe, perhaps the motorsports community would have been on to something classified about the tank. But the Maginot line? Either someone in the government was feeding her classified info, or she was a scapegoat.

    • @OptimalToast
      @OptimalToast Год назад +2

      @@smallhelmonabigship3524 Either is very possible, that's for sure. She's unquestionably an interesting character, would love to learn more about them.

    • @George196207
      @George196207 Год назад

      She was a mail runner in WW1 and had access to the information and shared it with the German socialist after WW1 and then in WW2 she joined them to murder torture and steal info.

  • @tomster1414
    @tomster1414 Год назад +5

    No oil painting but huge knockers !!

    • @PaulHenning84
      @PaulHenning84 7 месяцев назад

      her face looks like a modern art masterpiece

    • @vforvendetta275
      @vforvendetta275 7 месяцев назад

      The surgery she had to fit into race cars was a double mastectomy.

  • @johnmacdonald1878
    @johnmacdonald1878 Год назад +13

    There were a lot of people in France who accepted, assisted or collaborated with the Nazi or Vichy regimes. Many right wing French were considered 5 columnists who suported the Nazi ideology prior to the outbreak of the war. There was even a few in Britain.
    Her direct action went above and beyond acceptance, assistance and collaboration. She actively acted against other French people. No tears for her.
    The children were innocent victims, It takes a lot of hate to justify killing of children.
    Not the resistance proudest moment.

    • @George196207
      @George196207 Год назад

      Wake the fuck up . They were LEFT WING socialist . Yes they had collaborators in USA as well over 30,000 socialist in Nazi uniforms marched to Yankee stadium just before WW2 started for USA ! New York still a leftist state ! UK had a leftist movement as well who were pro Nazi , just like the IRA . Today these same leftist are working hand in hand to take over the world and erasing history or twisting it to say right wing when they should be sayin left wing. The anti capitalist movement depends on this lie.

  • @Dima_779
    @Dima_779 Год назад +18

    The French seriously stood against the Germans only when they realised the Nazis are losing. You can't beat this fact.

    • @brianperry
      @brianperry Год назад +8

      l wonder how you would get on if your country was overwhelmed….would you be passive or participate in the resistance…..you have no idea have you…

    • @jimfraser734
      @jimfraser734 Год назад

      Take a day off from being a Throbber

    • @michaelholt8590
      @michaelholt8590 Год назад +1

      You don't understand the word facts.

    • @udxpierre
      @udxpierre Год назад

      @@brianperry My gran dad survived all six years. He told me not a day past that he did not think of running far and hard from the guns that obliterated France. User-what ever do not have a cooking clue what he/she is talking about.

    • @tzazarizona2676
      @tzazarizona2676 Год назад +5

      That's not a fact it's a remark made by someone who knows nothing about the French resistance.

  • @andyf10
    @andyf10 Год назад +14

    Much in this video stated as fact but for which there is no actual evidence, just accusations long after the event.
    Claims she could have got plans for the Maginot line and tanks blueprints sound fairly far fetched.

  • @danteerskine7678
    @danteerskine7678 Год назад +35

    Sounds like she got the end she deserved. So the ruthless execution title is a bit misleading,

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 Год назад +10

      It is *NOT* misleading. Not one person named Ruth was present at the execution.
      😉

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +3

      Also, whether she deserved it or not, her killers clearly had no chill, which makes her execution ruthless regardless. And given that she was only betraying France (and who gives a flying f- about that miserable country anyway?), it’s pretty debatable whether she deserved anything less than hearty congratulations.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 Год назад +3

      @@samy7013 Aw man you were doing good until the end.

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +2

      @@sid2112 : You win some, you lose some. C’est la vie.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 Год назад +2

      @@samy7013 Oh Samy, that's French...

  • @simongrushka983
    @simongrushka983 Год назад +12

    how many of those who were shaving women's head were of suspicious character, just wanting to make themselves look righteous?

    • @holgernarrog962
      @holgernarrog962 Год назад +2

      Women quite often admire the winners. A women from Irak told me that she dreamed about strong blond men. The German soldiers that did stay in Paris were young, strong, well dressed, proud better paid than the normal French population. Thus there were an awful lot of relations, baby`s and marriages. It happened as well when US troops occupied Germany.
      It is jealousness and envy that made them shave, beat, kill these women.

    • @xzy89c
      @xzy89c 4 месяца назад

      ​@holgernarrog962 what BS. Collaborators who worked with rapists and murderers and were treated justly at end of war.

  • @chezmorello9057
    @chezmorello9057 Год назад +17

    We need to meter out the same for the traitors in the current British government.

  • @martinwarner1178
    @martinwarner1178 Год назад +5

    But the innocent children had to pay! Hmm, complete honour there then. Peace be unto you.

  • @wordsofcheresie936
    @wordsofcheresie936 Год назад +5

    She was half Arab. This explains her appearance, her ideologies, and her lack of loyalty to France.

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 Год назад +5

      No wonder she was so based.

  • @davidbowlas9487
    @davidbowlas9487 Год назад +5

    And De Gaulle spent his time in Britain in the arms of Churchill who was the only British person to come out of the war with a fat belly.

    • @juslitor
      @juslitor Год назад +2

      Cant blame a gentleman for liking scotch and stogies, after a few, man needs to eat.

  • @carlhicksjr8401
    @carlhicksjr8401 Год назад +1

    France has always been a society at war with itself. As an American, I deeply sympathize.
    The French Left and Right were so divided at the beginning of the War that many Right-wing militias and political parties actively sabotaged France's war effort in 1940 saying, "Better Hitler than Blum [a radical Socialist politician in line to become French President]'. And better than half the aid supplied to the Resistance was used in intercine battles amongst themselves for who would control France after the War. The revenge mobs against 'collaborators' should be looked at in this light.
    This does nothing to rehabilitate Morris' crimes, however. She was guilty spying for the SD and was a collaborator of the worst kind.

  • @malcolmcarroll9497
    @malcolmcarroll9497 Год назад +22

    Sounds like she batted for the other side 😂

    • @Tnt53499
      @Tnt53499 Год назад +7

      Yes, in more ways than one.🥴

  • @fiddelinpaul
    @fiddelinpaul Год назад +2

    I thank you for producing these videos of historical importance. But why are they all in such soft focus and have such low contrast? As a photographer, I am sure that all military photographers had good equipment and proper film processors. Thank you.

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist
    @TRHARTAmericanArtist Год назад +19

    What a beast!

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 Год назад +15

    she had it coming

  • @peterrandall9523
    @peterrandall9523 Год назад +2

    Very interesting - thanks

  • @efnissien
    @efnissien Год назад +20

    Violette Morris wasn't charged with 'Murder', she was charged with 'Homicide' - Murder is the deliberate act of killing someone with 'malice and forethought'. Homicide, however can involve the killing of an individual, either by accident, negligence or self defence. There's little evidence she pro-actively collaborated - sure, she black marketeered, ran a garage that happened to service vehicles for the Luftwaffe - but these were activities she was already engaged in. And as for the allegations of espionage and torture, there's absolutely no evidence. The only source for this allegation is author Raymond Ruffin, who made a nice living out of writing about the resistance. Given she was essentially blacklisted, following the 1930 trail to sue the FFSF (the French Womens Sports Federation) and her outburst about the people becoming slaves and her refusal to become one, she would have had less opportunity to gain access to tank designs or the plans of the Maginot line than just about anyone else.

  • @pinkzweibel985
    @pinkzweibel985 Год назад +15

    What a crazy mixed up person... also cruel. Sad.

  • @jeffreywingham5302
    @jeffreywingham5302 Год назад +19

    She was a traitor, it wasn't ruthless. She got what she deserved.

  • @paulgrillo6856
    @paulgrillo6856 Год назад +23

    The knockers on her lol. You don't see to many women back then with a shape like that.

    • @Riskmangler
      @Riskmangler Год назад +1

      What's French for "Zaftig?"

    • @janiceduke1205
      @janiceduke1205 Год назад +5

      @@Riskmangler French: Figure arrondie complète. Full rounded figure. Voluptuous: voluptueuse a well-rounded woman.

    • @Riskmangler
      @Riskmangler Год назад +1

      @@janiceduke1205 Merci.

    • @BCD1964
      @BCD1964 Год назад +1

      Massive. I hear she loved German sausage....

    • @Onbronco77
      @Onbronco77 Год назад

      A voluptuous bull dike😳

  • @Raven-NLD
    @Raven-NLD Год назад +1

    0:17 the picture is actualy taken in my hometown of Deventer the Netherlands after liberation in april 1945.

  • @detlefvonkalben9577
    @detlefvonkalben9577 Год назад +13

    same fate as Bonnie Parker

  • @SpaceOdditiesLive
    @SpaceOdditiesLive Год назад +7

    It's tempting to think that "Morris" was an accidental mistranslation of "Maurice", but in fact "Morris" was her surname. It's not a common French surname, but it does exist. Both versions have Latin roots, of course, so one would expect that.
    Interestingly, on September 10th 1944, reporting Morris' death, the Telegraph and the Guardian referred to her as a "Nazi collaborator" in their stories, but The Times was more circumspect and just gave her the epithet "French racing driver".

  • @Earle-n9g
    @Earle-n9g Год назад +1

    Some English accents are tough to listen to, but this guy's accent is mostly understandable. Interesting story. Thank you.

  • @rochardlalt3340
    @rochardlalt3340 Год назад +8

    If the french men defended their country the women wouldn't have had to sleep with the enemy.

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 8 месяцев назад

      Indeed! Not only were France’s colonial Arab, Amazigh, and African soldiers better in every respect, they literally were the backbone of Free French armies in WW2. Let’s not forget that even after France ravaged Africa with colonialism, it was Arab, Amazigh, and African soldiers who helped save her in the First World War, and who definitively saved her honor in the Second World War. Never let Frenchmen of European stock forget that while France was mired in Vichy collaborationism and Frenchmen were volunteering for the German SS, more than 60% of the Free French troops who achieved victory for the French Flag in France and Italy were Muslims of Arab, Amazigh, and African stock. It is they who saved France and her honor on the battlefields.

  • @tonyclough9844
    @tonyclough9844 Год назад +17

    The best one was from General De Gaule, when he organised a march down the shaunes de leigha, when He disobeyed orders to liberate Paris.
    He turned round and seeing the amount of French resistance fighters in the crowd said, if we had this many fighters how come we didn't defeat the German garrison there.

    • @wattage2007
      @wattage2007 Год назад

      Indeed. Only seemed to come out with their guns when it was safe to do so.

    • @tonyclough9844
      @tonyclough9844 Год назад

      @wattage2007 that's the French all right.

    • @juslitor
      @juslitor Год назад

      Yet Eisenhower is said to have considered the worth of the resistance to have been equivalent to 10-15 divisions around the time of the d-day landings.

    • @tonyclough9844
      @tonyclough9844 Год назад +1

      @juslitor I worked with a guy on the D day advance, they went forward to spot for artillery and when coming back the French had barricaded the road.

    • @mariosmatzoros3553
      @mariosmatzoros3553 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@tonyclough9844"that's the French" ... It seems like you don't know anything about history. France has won more wars than any other nation (1.115).

  • @logann7942
    @logann7942 Год назад +3

    The bullets just bounced off her chest thank you

  • @legneil
    @legneil Год назад +14

    Traitors get what they deserve.

    • @wattage2007
      @wattage2007 Год назад +1

      Not nowadays.

    • @gnbuchanan
      @gnbuchanan Год назад +1

      No presumption of innocence until proven guilty? Chilling stuff.

  • @johnkeviljr9625
    @johnkeviljr9625 Год назад +26

    She appears to have gotten what she deserved.

    • @stephenbartley8133
      @stephenbartley8133 Год назад

      Hope it hurt..

    • @4june9140
      @4june9140 Год назад

      Yes, she Got what she deserved

    • @jeanvaljean9492
      @jeanvaljean9492 Год назад

      Who can decide what she deserved ? You ? You, who doesn't know anything about her and what she has done, or not done ? Upon a ten minutes film ? Pfffffff.......... Pathetic.

  • @ronniefarnsworth6465
    @ronniefarnsworth6465 Год назад +2

    That's to bad, She had some Nice "Cans" !!! 🍈🍈😉

    • @ronniefarnsworth6465
      @ronniefarnsworth6465 Год назад

      @@wildrose2748 Lol, Yes I did it for a reply !! 😄 But a Traitor is a Traitor !! ⚰

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 Год назад +7

    I imagine the Germans she stayed with died with smiles on their faces.

  • @henryroscoe2464
    @henryroscoe2464 Год назад +2

    Try varying your pitch as your delivery is monotonous!

  • @Swellington_
    @Swellington_ Год назад +5

    welp,Im very shallow,I clicked for one reason,I'm a monster :(

    • @TDC7594
      @TDC7594 Год назад +1

      Don't you mean two reasons?

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 8 месяцев назад

      Fellow men of culture, unite!

  • @aztec0112
    @aztec0112 Год назад +3

    I've noticed a lot of content dealing with the French female collaborators and what they were subjected to after the war. What happened to male collaborators? I assume pretty much the same sort of thing, but it doesn't seem to be popularized as much as the 'ugly circus".

    • @George196207
      @George196207 Год назад

      They were shot , except for the Vichy government who just took France full on communist after a few years becasue one did not kill political leaders back then. Something we must learn to do this time around if lucky enough to beat the socialist take over of the world.

  • @Jack-pu4rf
    @Jack-pu4rf Год назад +10

    If they were true collaborators I find it hard to feel sympathy for them they are traitors to thier own country and could have cost many lives, the local people know who they are they lived there and knew who the collaborator's were so it's thier justice and it's a bad crime so be it

  • @woodentable1034
    @woodentable1034 Год назад +11

    The winners always write about history.

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh Год назад +4

      Yeah, nobody talks about what the French did in Algeria and Vietnam.

    • @woodentable1034
      @woodentable1034 Год назад +2

      @@jb-xc4oh yeah the French corporate state and it's order followers.

  • @Ballterra
    @Ballterra Год назад +8

    Probably the way she was treated by the bureaucracy and other organizations over the years made her bitter towards her own country. As she was already collaborating, it would have been the icing on the cake when France rapidly surrendered at the outbreak of hostilities. It's just speculation on my part of course or it could be that the Nazi's where really good at "Smoozing"

  • @janasimon7780
    @janasimon7780 Год назад +8

    Sounds like no great loss! At least in those times, traitors were given an appropriate punishment...now...they go completely unpunished.

    • @lil_old_man202
      @lil_old_man202 Год назад

      remember this comment when you face your maker on judgement day and he accuses you of betraying him. judge not, lest you be judged.

    • @janasimon7780
      @janasimon7780 Год назад +1

      @@lil_old_man202 That's a bullies argument, for sure! God gave us judgement to be able to DISCERN right from wrong. If we follow your logic...there's no way to know if an action is right or wrong because it's using judgement. It's ridiculous when a Christian uses that poor logic...even the Bible says we'll be judging angels.

    • @jeanvaljean9492
      @jeanvaljean9492 Год назад

      What a pity to read what you wrote.... Who are you to know exactly what she did or not ? What do you know about French history ? Who are you to write she received an "appropriate punishment" ? Probably she has been killed by mistake, at the place of another real collabo...

    • @redskyatnight123
      @redskyatnight123 Год назад

      Like the whole of Europeans governments who've sold us all out to globalisation and fucked us all over for net bullshit zero

  • @hb9145
    @hb9145 Год назад +3

    This kind of vindictive behavior is typical of populations with rampant collaboration. It is an act of cleansing and repentance.

  • @allen480
    @allen480 Год назад +2

    She may have survived the war If she didn’t always have a bloody cigarette hanging out of her mouth.

  • @jimgardiner6056
    @jimgardiner6056 Год назад +14

    Lie down with the dogs and catch fleas, serves her right.

  • @mikebon8352
    @mikebon8352 Год назад +7

    For 1 a traitor.. for another a hero...
    The 1 who winns writes history...
    Who owns history owns the future...
    Till all lies fall thru...

    • @kmvoss
      @kmvoss Год назад +2

      Huh? Are you saying the hynea of the gestapo is your hero? lol

    • @briansmith7256
      @briansmith7256 Год назад +1

      Very true.

    • @missourimongoose8858
      @missourimongoose8858 Год назад

      So your heros are rats who tattle and bring death to there own people? What a sad person you must be...

  • @bobwilliams5506
    @bobwilliams5506 Год назад +5

    What happened to all the French men who did the same? What about the French soldiers who threw down their weapons without firing a round? It is much more understanding of the women who collaborated than the men!! They had to eat! They had to feed their children! The men just tossed their rifles down and surrendered!!

    • @sebastiendine4834
      @sebastiendine4834 Год назад +3

      60,000 killed and 120,000 wounded on the french side during the Battle of France in just 6 weeks. That wasn't an easy fight for Germany and its allies. Please have a look at the casualties and losses on both sides before commenting. Please have some respect for the french soldiers who fought and lost their lives. The vast majority of them did fight and never threw away their weapons until they were given the order to do so from the top. By the way, many british people are alive today because some french soldiers died protecting their ancestor retreat in Dunkirk. It means that the British army also lost against Germany in 1940 in continental Europe !!!

    • @dp-sr1fd
      @dp-sr1fd Год назад +1

      Women live in a mans world, like it or not, and have to survive as best they can. No-one knows how they would behave in such terrible circumstances. It it too easy to condemn other people when one is safe and snug.

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 Год назад

      Si/mp....

  • @miles-thesleeper-monroe8466
    @miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 Год назад +5

    She definitely had her knockers

  • @johnfalconer5778
    @johnfalconer5778 Год назад +4

    Buxom Biach

  • @jeremysideris4508
    @jeremysideris4508 Год назад +7

    No tears were shed for her.

  • @SteveWilsonSr.-rm9ek
    @SteveWilsonSr.-rm9ek Год назад +1

    Those who don,t know, or who have forgotten the past, are doomed to repeat it. [ sad indeed]. 2023 August.

  • @nonamernobrainer846
    @nonamernobrainer846 Год назад +33

    she was fit af tho

  • @RobertThomson-y4m
    @RobertThomson-y4m Год назад +8

    The cowardly men who mistreated many of these women should have been ashamed of themselves. The french capituled in a matter of weeks and then collaborated with them for years.

    • @TDC7594
      @TDC7594 Год назад +1

      Because they preferred being occupied by a neighboring power to the corrupt, degenerate, unpopular government they previously endured. As an American in 2023, I can absolutely relate to this.
      The French weren't the cowards, nor the poorly equipped military force we were taught; they simply couldn't tolerate their own hostile government. This alone explains why they didn't oppose the German invasion (or liberation, as many viewed it), and why they willingly aided their occupiers thereafter.
      American and British soldiers who 'liberated' France from Germany attributed their sometimes lackluster reception to the French being merely ungrateful, rather than using it as an opportunity for introspection about their own role. Today's fallen France is the direct, and predicted, result.

  • @Holdit66
    @Holdit66 Год назад +4

    Very interesting, informative and well-researched. However, and please don't be offended, I find your delivery hard to listen to. Perhaps work on where to use pauses (i.e commas in text) and, even more importantly, where not to e.g.
    "...she would meet a brutal and bloody end... alongside others...who were suspected of collaborating with the Nazis... with her body and car riddled in bullets..."
    reads much better as:
    "...she would meet a brutal and bloody end, along WITH others who were suspected of collaborating with the Nazis, with her body and car riddled WITH bullets..."
    Again, this is meant in the spriti of constructive criticism, and I've heard and seen professional broadcasters do this too, but I think mastering this aspect would take your videos to the next level.
    This is one of those times where I regret the lack of an feature on RUclips for contacting content creators directly. I do hope you will appreciate the spirit in which this comment is writen.

  • @harryeisermann2784
    @harryeisermann2784 Год назад +2

    Hypocrisy is in full swing. WW2 paramount

  • @jonBrown-k4p
    @jonBrown-k4p Год назад +8

    awww, she was too cute to shoot...

  • @Skyswinger
    @Skyswinger Год назад +4

    It's a pity she died........so quickly

  • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled
    @myhandlehasbeenmishandled Год назад

    yeah, turning against your own people can have that affect.

  • @pecheurcrapuleux84
    @pecheurcrapuleux84 Год назад +1

    They also killed the children being with her in the car. This makes it seeming doubtful and irregualar. Evidence has to be proofed.

  • @philkelly8031
    @philkelly8031 Год назад +2

    It's a shame that these females either had no choice to survive during a war many rapped and murdered or forced into prostitution or a single parent for many reason and those very brave men who did this to them did they fight for the resistance l would think not.
    It's amazing what a person will do to survive especially if they have a child, l could under stand if they betrayed other's but for some it was the only way to survive being a female friend of a German Soldier in a lot of cases stop her from being attacked by another German again the things you will do to survive you don't know until you are put in that position yourself as you could be accused and shot.

  • @SouthBaySteelers
    @SouthBaySteelers Год назад +6

    By the Associated Press dated 5 September 1944:
    24 August 1944, German Gestapo and Milice Française take 87 male prisoners, of whom 50 were Jews, from a prison in Lyon to a house. There they were tortured by having nails driven into their hands, feet, and chins. Then they were shot. The wounded, of whom there were many, were locked inside the house. The house was then dynamited.
    Whatever punishment was meted out to these women who slept with German soldiers, Gestapo, and Milice was earned.

    • @1ninjatiger
      @1ninjatiger Год назад +1

      These women are not to blame for the barbarity of the nazi regime. Most of these women were terrorised and complied out of fear. Lots of them were just teenagers and women looking after their children alone. To rebuff a gestapo male would almost certainly have been a death sentence.

    • @Dirleberger
      @Dirleberger Год назад

      ScoutBaySteelens, das hast du bestimmt von den Propagandisten der Yankees gelesen!

    • @leithblower
      @leithblower Год назад

      What twisted logic.

  • @Wilt8v92
    @Wilt8v92 Год назад +1

    Frogs got real brave when the Panzer Grenadiers left,and they rounded up a few Luftwaffe pogos,yeah real brave...

  • @edwardpresutti2941
    @edwardpresutti2941 11 месяцев назад +1

    The male collaborators were shot...

  • @claygoodwin8108
    @claygoodwin8108 Год назад +2

    don't bring a knife to a gunfight

  • @Sea-cucumber1151
    @Sea-cucumber1151 Год назад +8

    Sad part for those woman were some found this was the only way to feed their kids, or they were forced. But how many men were far worse and nothing became of them they just took it out in the woman.

    • @danor6812
      @danor6812 Год назад

      Most men that were thought to have collaborated with the Germans were killed. Women were mainly just humiliated in public with their heads being shaved. They weren't just killed only because they were women. Learn the history before you make up little remarks about sexism. Your stupidity boggles the mind.

    • @fatdaddy1996
      @fatdaddy1996 Год назад +1

      There were wholesale executions of French men who had been in the Milice.
      As much as the way these women were treated was ugly, men were habitually treated worse.

  • @oldschoolbudapestworkout2105
    @oldschoolbudapestworkout2105 Год назад

    What some French men did to these poor women, I wonder if they were as courageous against the Germans...
    You have to understand that some of these women were just in love with a German soldier. Just because of that they were considered as collaborators!

    • @panzerkunsth
      @panzerkunsth Год назад

      If someone fall in love with a beautiful ISIS warrior and marry him or have sex with him while he is acting against your country you wouldn t consider him or her as a traitor ?

  • @peterliebe829
    @peterliebe829 Год назад +1

    Only the poor women were treated like this.

    • @matthewcoombs3282
      @matthewcoombs3282 Год назад

      Obviously. Unless they were homosexuals the French men would not be sleeping with German army personnel would they? Many French men who collaborated in other ways didnt have their head shaved, they were shot dead.

  • @ricki-bobby
    @ricki-bobby Год назад +2

    Homegirl is T H I C C asf

  • @jondobbie5401
    @jondobbie5401 Год назад +2

    popular culture would have you believe that the whole of France was in arms against the Germans, the reality was France washed its hands of its national guilt by blaming and victimizing the easiest scapegoats. the girls and woman. If as popular culture would have us believe that France was in arms against occupation the axis powers would have required a greater number of troops in place to counter this resistance, it is quietly forgotten than the French were complicit in the deportation of Jews and other 'undesirables' to concentration camps, and also the thousands of volunteers that joined the axis armies

    • @sebastiendine4834
      @sebastiendine4834 Год назад +1

      You have been awarded the "Armchair Resistance Award" of 2023 Stop judging the people from the past and keep your moral judgment of 2023 for yourself. Open some history books to get educated. You have no idea what the french went through during the second world war.

    • @jondobbie5401
      @jondobbie5401 Год назад +1

      @@sebastiendine4834 well it may be hard for you to see the truth, and easier to believe the shonky history you want to , but your own leader said himself after the liberation of Paris that if all the resistance who were suddenly running around the streets then had been fighting there would have needed to be an invasion, and for your information i have been studying history for over fifty years, but not with blinkers on, i suggest you stop and look at the facts objectively

    • @sebastiendine4834
      @sebastiendine4834 Год назад

      @@jondobbie5401 There are facts (what History is made of) and opinions. You are mixing both. This kind of assumptions about what the french should have done or not, in order to achieve this or that is not history. If you want to play that game then ask this question to yourself.
      This is summer 1940, you are a french father with kids and a wife you have to take care of, your country has lost the war, you are either prisoner of war or you have been recently freed and sent back to your family. What are you doing ? Do you keep fighting? There aren't any organized resistance group yet.
      Or do you stay under the radar (wait and see ) ? Do you want to risk your life and everything you have to fight the Germans?
      No, most (90%) of the french stayed under the radar, some collaborated, some entered various resistance groups within 2-3 years (between 100 000 to 200 000 resistant fighters of all age were killed).
      Don't tell me that you would have fought the germans right after the defeat!!! You are no better than the french from a moral stance.
      PS. Citing one of our leader doesn't prove anything.

    • @jondobbie5401
      @jondobbie5401 Год назад +1

      @@sebastiendine4834 making personal attacks and ranting and raving is the first sign that you have no arguement, and no history is only facts, not opionion, simple fact , how many factory workers had their heads shaved because they built the engines at the Rhone factory ?How many of the tens of thousands of men who willingly joined the German army where made an example of, i could go on but i wont , the fact remain that girls who were the easiest target were used to cleanse the national soul, it maybe just a little too uncomfortable for you, but the facts are there, just need to open your mind, enjoy the rest of your , take a trip to the library , or ask the right questions on the internet, you may liberate your mind from your preconceive notions , im not going to reply to you again, i dont need to say things again, smell the coffee, wake up

    • @sebastiendine4834
      @sebastiendine4834 Год назад

      I don't make personal attacks. Before judging people from the past imagine being in their feet first. I am just fed up with people being so quick at simplifying history and categorizing an entire country at being good, bad etc. This is ridiculous Yes these women were easy targets but affirming that it was for cleansing some national soul is stupid. You cannot prove that. You are overthinking and clearly leaving the History field . It was mostly due to the group effect, the excitation of the liberation, the accumulated anger against the enemy. These are more plausible and simpler explanations. I can also list thousands of heroic facts about the french during the 2nd world war. These will just be facts along with the facts you listed, no more no less. @@jondobbie5401​

  • @bobwilliams5506
    @bobwilliams5506 Год назад +1

    MAS36 battle rifle for sale. Never fired! Dropped once!

    • @juslitor
      @juslitor Год назад

      Actually, it was a Carcano M1891.