New Vivi Trains in Latvia/Skoda 16Ev (Russian gauge) - derived from Regiopanter
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Was exploring the new suburban trains that we now have in Latvia made by Škoda. The model is Škoda 16Ev, derived from Škoda 7Ev (Regiopanter).
Went on 0002 and 0006 from Riga to Majori and back.
Big day for Latvian rail enthusiasts and passengers.
Good nice 👍👍👍
This is not regiopainter, this is Škoda 16ev
Ok, you are correct I believe, as in that page for 7 Ev en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_7Ev they are under Ev16 though train is from Regiopanter family, I think I said they had 16Ev designation but was not sure if it still can be called Regiopanter... guess not. Or Russian gauge updated Regiopanter :D
Updated with more precise naming now.
That's right, this is the cheapest craft made from old trash. Latvians are very proud that for the next 50 years they will drive the same trash as before.
Tur ir kur nolikt ričukus?
Turētāji nav, sola kaut ko uz vasaru taisīs…
Vasaraa buus
6:00 lol
people stood at stops for hours because no one told them that the new train had broken down. out of 11, 5 broke, and the minister said that this was normal.
We have shorter couplings. 🇪🇪
Yes, I believe we have 2x the passenger flow in passenger km and also quite bigger number in total number of trips, compared to Estonia. Not sure if I am a fan of so many seats crammed into the train, but these trains will be packed going to the beaches this summer
They haven’t even started working yet and are already breaking down. As they write in the news, Skoda did not expect them to break.
Estonia has bought very similar trains for an intercity line between Tallinn and Tartu, which I think is what these would be better suited to as well. I can imagine Vivi will put these to use on longer lines when the electrification goes further from Riga than the commuter train line distances that they have electrified now, but I hope they also buy proper commuter train rolling stock like the Stadler FLIRTS in Estonia, Finland and elsewhere.
What are cruicial differences of this train compared to Estonian FLIRTs aside from FLIRTs having higher % of low floor? They are still not 100% low floor trains.
And these trains would be more suited for longer routes with removing some seats IMO. But of course the purchase was compromised in a way that at first it was planned not to use any EU funds to purchase them, and a lot of seats were crammed in due to high demand on commuter lines on peak hours and to show that we get cheap price per seat. And still for Riga commuter lines if passenger growth is like in Tallinn with new trains as it was, 32 of these will not be enough. So sure, in future part of these should go to more electrified sections, like the short term plan is to electrify to Krustpils at least.
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Looks like these trains have a lot more seating than Estonia's FLIRTs and even more than Finland's (less standing room), and I believe less storage room for bikes. That leads me to believe that they're more suited for intercity routes than commuter lines.
> And these trains would be more suited for longer routes with removing some seats IMO
How so? People travelling longer distances tend to want to sit down more compared to commuter train passengers no?
The thing is that by there being so many seats the leg room is less and people are sitting more close packed together + there are no tables in between etc. So a good intercity train would still use better seats, some tables and maybe a bit less of seats in total, like Estonian trains I believe will have less seats than there...
Also a true commuter train does not really need a huge place for bikes, like Stockholm commuter trains are packed in mornings, same as these in Riga will be at least in Riga borders, they even do not allow to board at least in Stockholm central with a bike in peak hours, there are ways how to commute with a bike by renting one at the destination for example, if everyone starts bringing bikes on commuter trains in peak hours there are even less room and more room to get dirty clothes from bike tires etc. But then again if we talk about electrified lines we also not have just commuter lines, Tukums II - Riga has express trains, which is then already more like a regional version, or Aizkraukle - Riga, so it is sort of a mix too...
I agree that maybe more standing room would be better, then again some of the routes are very specific where most traffic originates at departure and leaves at arrival... Like Jelgava - Riga, most people would go all the way if not to Riga center then some districts from Jelgava, or from any of Jūrmala stops to Riga, ok it is maybe just 45 minute travel time but if they also travel on the same train then further from Jurmala to Ogre, it can already be over an hour. Not many such people there will be probably, it is kinda hard to say, even if these are commuter trains, usually passenger exchange in stations in the middle is not that great, usually they get progressively more packed towards Riga or in summers towards the sea going from Riga@@intervrt
Also the thing is since Riga central has trains going through it, commuter line can also turn into regional one pretty quickly if the same train is going Ogre - Sloka or some other diametral route and people want to travel through Riga Central, not exit there. Not sure, it is sort of a mix what we have, it is also not purely commuter lines we have, we run some express services on them as regional train sort of too@@intervrt
@@lkrnpk You've typed up a whole lot of text so it's hard for me to reply to it but commuter trains usually have tables too (or maybe just the ones i've ridden do). Even though some don't allow bikes onboard I think it's still more important for them to help bicycle commuting than for intercity trains to do that, right? Maybe I'm wrong, that's just what makes sense to me. And I'd assume leg room isn't something that matters in intercity trains but doesn't in commuter trains, both should have room anyway.
Also, if you say over an hour, that seems to cross into intercity territory anyway so I'm not sure that's very relevant
This magic moment when old trains made in Latvia in soviet time is bether then new brand Skoda
The train is fine but the color inside is depressing.
I don't think the diesel trains will ever be replaced. It is more likely that they will electrify the rail system in whole country and only electric trains will run.
Current plan is to replace diesel a with partial electrification+ battery trains. Electrification of Krustpils will be coming, so then with good enough technology we could run Rēzekne/Daugavpils with some charging island in between. Probably in direction of Valga there should be electrification to Sigulda maybe. But have to see what battery trains allow in future. i doubt all network will be electrified as it would be massive investment, but with the green deal and such who knows
@@lkrnpk In the direction of Valga will be RailBaltic.
no, it is in direction of Parnu@@thespacementv1506
@@thespacementv1506 RB won't go near Valga
There is a Skoda trains 🚆 in Ukraine 🇺🇦.
Он что, один такой?
Вроде 3, будет 32 если не напутал 😊
на видео уже два, 0002 и 0006, будет 32 до лето 2024
5:04 Is a button on a faucet hygienic? Was it difficult to install a proximity switch?
5:17 Some kind of cheap homemade frame, just don’t tell me it was made at the factory.
5:25 some kind of plate above the handle and this scary TV box
5:45 Still praying on the same level of the floor of the train and the platform?
5:55 Nice moment when conductor goes out to check for possible closing doors when doors are closing automatically... Why does she going out and then... waits for opening doors? Weird thing!
6:20 It is a strange that the brand "vivi" can be more friendly for people than "passenger train". This name can tell about anything, not only about trains.
6:46 You can’t hope, given the past experience of many years of scams, including with Skoda, where they “saved” about half, most likely this will all end. Moreover, doctors will soon go on strike.
7:58 As you can see, the gray and black colors are the main theme of the vivi. And a little bit of orange...
8:00 Hole latvian?
9:04 this whistle is clearly audible inside, so you will listen to every acceleration and braking, as well as the rumble of the wheels. 21 century.
9:20 Skoda promised 32 trains this year, delivered 18, and only three were put on the line. nothing bothers you?
Level boarding in Riga central station will come with Rail Baltica, if they finish the first part of the station at least. If the station itself is delayed maybe then they will do something, but so far it does not seem they gave any plan.
As per button for water, we have those on many trains all around the world, also trains are not soundproof, there will still be sounds.
As per Skoda delivering 20 (20 trains are in Latvia now) instead of 32, they had to basically assemble them here due to war and not being able to use Ukraine and Belarus Rail to transport them, delays do happen in infrastructure projects, they said they will run 18 that are certified quite soon, but we will see
@@lkrnpk eduards is a notorious commenter, troll that comments under almost every 16ev related video just to nitpick all of the details regarding the train. please dont bother wasting your time, they perfectly know everything themselves, they just heavily dislike the trains and blame the government for everything:)
you must be fun at parties
"hole latvian?" like what are you even trying to say
I dont like 2 level😱.and 3+3?and bike?????no no no no💔🥺.old train its better!!!!
the author is lying, this train is very unpleasant to travel. it is very noisy, everything is buzzing and noisy everywhere, the doors squeak loudly, the carriages shake and the noise from the wheels is like in an old train. This is not a regio panter, but a cheaper copy of it.
Nope. It’s way more pleasant and aesthetically beautiful than that Soviet shit we’ve had for way too long.