As someone who's 6'4, arrow loopers in even-numbered rows (odd-numbered rows at least give you enough leg room to slouch forward) are basically medieval torture devices for the shoulders.
Don't try riding Cedar Point's Corkscrew. For some unknown reason, the belts connecting from the restraint to the seat are shorter there. I am about your size and I have ridden all kinds of old Arrows. Not comfortable, but doable. Not on Corkscrew. They couldn't make the belt buckle at all. Next day (or two days later, I don't recall) ant Michigan's Adventure - no problem riding their Corkscrew at all. And, even though not a coaster, ever tried riding Larson Loops? 😵
Dear god, Tennessee Tornado nearly drove me insane. It was already kind of uncomfortable leaving the station, and during the ride the OSTRs clamped down even more leaving me to uncomfortably hunch to try and not have my shoulders dig into the restraint, and the final brake run was pure agony waiting to get off
I’m 6’5 and the last time I went to Dollywood we were placed in the VERY back row of TN Tornado and the second I sat down I told my brother that this is not a good idea and wanted to get off. Of course it was too late that point and just the small turn around before the main drop made me realize how fucked I was about to be. Those last two loops did me dirty. My shoulders were bruised for days 😅
Thanks for including Whizzer in the most comfortable category! I grew up riding that coaster and it was always great after a long day to just get on Whizzer and basically take a nap. It is literally more comfortable than most of the chairs in my house.
It only has those because they still used the old Arrow chasis trains just put a new body on them and the old chasis had the OTSR system and this was the only thing that worked. If they ended up getting new trains entirely then I’m sure you would not see this setup since no other coaster has them.
I love the lapbar, but there's a bit less legroom than I'd prefer. I'm only 5'7", but it took some experimenting to find a foot and leg position I was happy with.
Amen to B&M clamshells and Millennium Flyers. They’re gifts from the heavens for coaster enthusiasts. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten stapled on either, even as a bigger guy, and the airtime they give is insane. My worst are the Arrow OSTRs, Tennessee Tornado in particular, after having it clamp down further during the ride and having to uncomfortably hunch and force myself down into my seat to not have my shoulders crushed by the restraint. B&M vests are up there too, not because of lack of airtime for me, but because they all love digging into my collarbone making me slink into my seat to avoid it
It's a work of art really. The seat is high enough that your feet don't touch the ground and the only restriction is on your lap. Plus, the cars are far enough apart that your view isn't impeded.
As a tall guy, the front car of any arrow that has that massive leg room is awesome, also the trains on phantoms revenge are really comfortable too. Not sure what my least favorite ever is, there’s some that really aren’t good for a anyone over 6ft
As someone who's 190,5cm/6ft 3in I can confirm that there are definitely trains that are simply not made for me/us tall people. I feel like a canned sardine in the RMC box trains for example; I feel completely tucked away and folded over.
Phantom’s Revenge is also SUPER plus-size friendly with that lap bar. KW is my home park but I have a friend from Ohio who is a larger guy and gets a pass here instead of Cedar Fair because of this.
As someone who's 6'5", RMC Ibox trains are the absolute worst, or any coaster with shin guards for that matter. Forget having bruises after a marathon, I get bruises after 1 ride, and 3 or more makes me start bleeding. It sucks because the rides are incredible, but they also feel like they're not built for people above 5'10"
As someone who's 6'3" I already hate the RMC box trains, I can imagine they would be even worse for you. It's almost as if RMC only expects tiny people to ride, which is particularly weird on Untamed, the only RMC Ibox I've ridden up to now, *because we Dutch people are on average the tallest on the planet*
@Thim22Z7 yeah the restraints make sense on something like hakugei because people in Japan are just shorter, but when the majority of your coasters are in the US, idk why they thought to make restraints that don't account for the generally larger people that will ride them.
Surprised to see a list of comfortable restraints without Phantom’s Revenge. In addition to the lap bar being enormously comfortable, it’s also very accommodating for larger riders. EDIT: I almost forgot to shout out the OG Steel Phantom for one of the least comfortable. Not the train so much as the ride entering the inversions with way too much speed and really ringing your bell. It’s been 25 years and I still haven’t forgotten. I file Comet at Waldameer under “tough for taller riders”. I’m too tall myself to ride in a seat with my kid and basically had to manspread to fit my knees in.
I've always hated the Premier trains. For example, Tigris. Horrible space, horrible restraints. It just bruises my thighs and leaves me not wanting to ride anything else. Intamin LSM Coasters are the best trains. VelociCoaster is my all-time favorite for its airtime and rerideability. Good ops, good stats, overall a perfect coaster. Also, the coaster in the thumbnail, I lived there and rode it several times. It was my first coaster as a kid. Now I'm in Florida with way better parks. Btw, why Cheetah Hunt? They're not really that bad besides the heartline roll.
Tigris gotta be the worst train ive ever been on. One time i bonked my elbow/upper arm on the side of the train on the way up the big launch. And nah, cheetah hunt earned its spot. Restrictive, hard to get in/out, just has an overall bad effect on the ride experience
I disagree sky rush old restraints are better u have less lateral braceing which makes u feel more exposed and how u feel like u going to fall out on the turns I have not ride that coaster with that new lapbar I'm sure coaster don't feel the same
@@MaksymWingert-Speedcuber when I was there, some signs just said “Roller Coaster,” some said Manhattan Express, and some said the big Apple coaster, officially it is The Big Apple Coaster tho
I rode that once. I still remember the look the ride operator gave me, that trust me you don't want that. When I rode it there were two options single ride or single day. Single day would pay for itself after the second ride and there was no line. After my one ride, I thanked the operator for saving me some money.
Surprised to see Cannibal wasn't mentioned as a comfortable train experience. This is a ride where you staple yourself for your own self preservation from that first drop. Yet you always feel secure and very comfortable with it's contoured clamshell design. I almost always forget about the shinguards because I don't even feel them. Good design. The trains are quick to load and unload and still feel open and roomy even for a small 4x3 train. Amazing engineering. Also really the first of it's kind from a lesser known engineering firm. Home Run, top notch!
I have to agree about B&M hypers having the best trains. Comfy every time! My personal worst would be the trains on Hagrid's. The sidecar seats were so painful because of the way the shinguards made me sit.
I'm shocked that the old Arrow trains on Canyon Blaster at Adventure Dome didn't make the cut. Absolutely no padding on the seats + old Arrow over-the-shoulder restraints. That's a recipe for PAIN.
@@Southeastern_Thrills I haven't ridden it since 2010 but I really loved it. Don't remember the trains being particularly different from other typical Arrow loopers.
I actually really like the Coney Island cyclone trains. You typically can get airtime room with them since they’re at a set position, and the well padded seats causes the ride to be one of the smoothest woodies in the world. Also since there’s no seat dividers you can get some of the strongest laterals of any coaster if you ride alone. Although I’m a short guy so I could see the trains being an issue if you’re tall
The trains apparently can't handle the extreme forces with launching and spiraling up and down a 420-foot tophat, but the seats on Top Thrill 2 were ridiculously comfortable, and even a big fat guy like me had no problem getting in and out. So on a more normal ride the lightning trains could be really nice.
Volares need to be on the uncomfortable list as well. And Thunderbolt at Coney Island, those seats felt like sitting in a booth at a crappy fast food restaurant
I want to say as someone who is 6’7 and who’s home park is sfot, shockwave’s restraints are AWFUL for me. My knees are pushed into the padding - if my legs were a big longer, I genuinely would not fit. Even the restraints on Texas Giant are fine compared the shockwave restraints. I love shockwave, but the trains really knock down the experience for someone as tall as I am
#1 should be side friction coasters like leap the dips. Basically just a rolling leather couch with no restraint. just small bar in front of you to hold onto, not even a seatbelt.
Jackrabbit at Kennywood has trains like that - just a grab bar that you slide around to get in the seat. So you get to feel all of the airtime on the double down.
Love the B&M hyper seats and restraint. Used to be my favourite trains till I rode Top Thrill 2! The lap bars are equally as comfortable and if u have room the restraints lock and stay in position the entire ride and they are amazing. Super comfortable seats too. By far the best trains out there for me! Intamin’s new gen trains are great too. Very similar to Top Thrill 2 however I get stapled easily but they are still comfortable
I want to throw another uncomfortable one into the mix: The S&S trains on Powder Keg. It's a great coaster and I love it, but seating... nope. First of all, the seats are too close to the floor of the ride vehicle, so that your knees are way higher than your butt. Then, add the weird "swing over and ratchet down" lap bar that S&S also use on their Screaming Swings. Certainly not my favorite seating...
My worst experience was by far Pantheon. The ride op literally had to lift himself off the ground to staple me in. And yet, Velicoaster is so free and maybe the best ever, except for buzz bars.
Thunderhead at Dollywood is so nicely padded that it truly changes all the rattling and sashaying that you get on a woody. It was my second favorite at that park.
I was sitting here watching and thinking “After destroying our necks, Swiss Toboggan better have at least made the top three” 😂… low and behold it literally shows them jamming me in there - and you’re like six inches taller than me lol. Never again.
Not gonna lie but I miss Skyrush’s old restraints😂 but Premier ride restraints are the worst. I’m always struggling on Tempesto with the over the head straps that do nothing
I'm glad you mentioned the RMC raptors. I rode my first one this year (Jersey Devil) and my first ride was a nightmare. With my feet out and knees in, my legs started cramping on the lift hill. I was vaguely aware of a decent layout while overcome with pain. I took a 2nd ride and kept my knees directly over my feet when the restraint came down. It didn't feel especially secure, but at least no cramping and the ride was pretty fun.
The worst train I've ever been on was Condor @ Walibi Holland. The first ever SLC. It even has a never train with a vest, but it came down so hard, by the end my legs were losing circulation.
NAD trains like on Big Dipper at SCBB with the cut out hard seats are brutal when encountering airtime and you rise up and slam down back into those seats 😢
As for uncomfortable, my top pick has to be Schwarzkopf with pull-down Shoulder crushers (i.e. Olympia Looping). I´m fine with the regular Schwarzkopf trains with just the Lap bars, but combine the high forces of Schwarzkopf loops with shoulder restraints that by design are coming down and you have a recipe for shoulder pain the moment you enter the first loop. Your only chance of survival is trying to push the restraint up with at least one hand.
Need to shoutout Pipeline for giving a comfortable standup experience. The surf coaster fixes a lot of the body banging that the standard standup brings.
I personally hate the RMC box trains; I can simply feel they were not made for me as a relatively tall person (190,5cm/6ft 3in). The restraints in general force me into the train as if I'm a just too large package being forced into a mailbox, but it is especially the shinguards that I despise. For me they sit on my legs in such a way that it feels like I have to snap my shins to sit comfortably (which I obviously can't).
Surprised you didn't mention the old Arrow trains with their head banging over the shoulder restraints. They were fine for the smaller Arrow loopers in the 70's, but not Arrow's bigger and more intense loopers in the 80's and 90's. Even some of the smaller ones still bash your head against the restraints sometimes.
They’re also torture for taller people, smashing your shoulders into it if the restraint manages to come down more during the ride (which in my case is pretty much guaranteed)
To me, the most uncomfortable trains are the ones on Coast Rider at Knott's. Also the old trains on Flashback & the big ball lapbar on Z-Force, both defunct at Six Flags Magic Mountain⛰️So uncomfortable. Ugh
I can not believe that Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket was even on the comfortable side. For me this is easily number 1 on my most uncomfortable list. I had two rides with my nephew and that was enough. Our name for that coaster is Rip Ride and Rock Your Nuts.
I am so thankful you put Zambezi zinger on this list when I first took my friend on this he absolutely hated it and I don’t disagree this really ruins the ride and it’s insanely uncomfortable and can even be painful at points
Some other bad ones : SLCs from Vekoma with the big bulky over the shoulder T3 - worst trains Rolling thunder at tropic falls. B&M flyers after riding FLY might be at the level of B&M with vest
It used to be a very common model of coaster. I think there were reasons it was so common (cheap, small footprint), and some very good reasons why it's _not_ so common anymore. This particular one can be found at the Little Amerricka roadside amusement park in Marshall, Wisconsin--a surprisingly credit-rich park for its tiny size (four coasters), though the coasters there are pretty small themselves.
I really love the modern Intamin trains. I first did them on Red Force and they thought they were good but after recently doing them on Taron for the first time you realise how open and freeing they really are(and it’s impossible to be stapled)
13:10 speaking of overzealous ride ops, on my first visit to canadas wonderland this past summer, the ride ops were crazy rude for no reason. Denying row requests, and by some crazy work, I got stapled on leviathan AND behemoth. Thankfully I got a second ride on leviathan but god they purposely stapled me I swear
I'm a baby thoosie, so so far for me, the worst I've had were the RMC raptors. But I'm 6' and have horrible old man knees and hips (I'm 32 lmao) So the seating position was hard for me to even get into. When I did Wonder Woman at SFMM, I could barely bend my legs the right way to sit down to begin with, and then the ride op came and stapled me in. Not only that, but he somehow got the lap bar just right, so it was making my car keys dig into my legs the whole time. I got off the ride hyped, but with sore hips and a bruised thigh lol. And then I had to sprint to Twisted Colossus before the park closed.
How the F did you not mention Superman at SFNE? Or, the old Vekoma SLC trains? Or T3? Or the worst, most uncomfortable trains of all time, the Volare?!
Little surprised to not see Coast Rider on the worst list with how much crap you've given the shinguards in the past. Also surprised that something managed to beat out Chance Toboggans. I suppose you've managed to avoid Togo standups to this point, not hard to imagine those are even worse than B&M's. I know there's a couple still operating in Japan, any of them happen to be on the itinerary for your trip?
I remember the trains on Phantoms Revenge were comfy. Huge, almost like riding in a love seat. On the flip side at Kennywood I recall Sky Rocket being the most uncomfortable coaster I’ve been in, causing pain in my legs. I couldn’t get off that train fast enough.
I actually think the RMC Hybrid trains are so awful they give me claustrophobic attacks, and I am not even claustrophobic. I actively avoid riding them after getting the cred
I tend to dismiss complaints about uncomfortable coaster restraints (I seem to have a high tolerance; I think Superman: The Ride is not that bad, and didn't mind the one Premier Sky Rocket II I've ridden, either--granted it had no comfort collars) but I have to admit that B&M hyper clamshells put most of the others I've experienced to shame. I recently saw someone complaining on about them on the grounds that they felt too loose and that was scary! I tend to think of any kind of lapbar system as luxurious, but I do admit I really had to fold myself into the current trains on Disney World's Space Mountain.
Some of the most uncomfortable trains I've been on include the Kumbak trains that once operated on Python at Efteling and the X-car trains on G-Force at Drayton Manor - even though they are the same type of train as on Rip Ride Rocket, the lap bar would tighten as the ride progressed so that you could barely breathe by the time you hit the brakes.
Uncomfortable: Flight of the Hippogriff at Universal Studios Hollywood (it's those shin guards that ruin for me), the current bobsleds on Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland (if you sit in either rows 1, 3, 4, or 6, it isn't too bad; but if you sit in either rows 2 or 5, it is Cramp City). I also agree with bending your knees a bit on those stand-up coasters. Comfortable: the old 8 man bobsleds on Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland (even with 2 riders per seat, the leg room was great), the chariot car on Tron Lightcycle Run at Magic Kingdom (I was surprised at how comfortable it was), the trains on X2 at Magic Mountain (I seriously thought my head was laying on a pillow the first time I rode it).
The bikes are also confortable on tron but agree on both current matterhorn and flight of the hipogriff too small even for a 5'10 guy whose a lot lighter then i was.
Matterhorn is rough, being 6 3 I couldn't get comfortable (my knees were almost at the same level as my shoulders) as the train left the station. Ride operator told me not to worry he would help get me out after the ride and he did.
@@GLJosh I'm 5'8" and unless I'm sitting in either of 4 rows I mentioned, it is uncomfortable for me in the 2 middle rows. It is awesome that a Cast Member was willing to take the time to help you get out ⭐️.
Id put PTC trains with the lap bar number 2 worst trains. The bar on the side really crushes my legs and the seat divider makes it way worse. Id love PTC to redesign their lapbar into a T bar.
I'm shocked CoastRider isn't on the list. That has to be my number 1. (Number 2 probably being Great American Scream Machine at SFOG though that's been changed apparently?)
Magnum is definitely a knee cruncher. I think the trains are what make that coaster one of my least favorites. I've never had an issue with the B&M vest restraints. I actually don't hate standups. Georgia Scorcher is a decent coaster of the model. Vortex has gotten rougher over the years. B&M hypers and gigas are the best! Love those trains! Fury and Thunder Striker are amazing! ❤
Haha yeah that was a bit of a paradox. Bad for different reasons, the restraint being the main reason over the trains which was the main point of the video
My absolute worst was the first restraints on American Triple Loop. Front seat was ok, little rough, but the back seats were literal punches to the face! My shoulders and face were sore for a couple of weeks! Thank God they removed the over the shoulder restraints and just kept the lapbar, much better. Not great, but better.
I rode a travelling Toboggan in France in 2022. I'm just under 6ft and either I braced okay as other than one moment where I hit my head on the top, it made me think either Little Amerika doesn't take care of Swiss Toboggan or its a little overhated. I still don't know why parks like Hersehypark and Astroworld ever bought them
I actually find the trains for X2 to be super comfortable, same for Viper but I think I'm just the right build for both of them. Or maybe it's because I grew up riding Arrow loopers so there's a certain amount of muscle memory involved. I'm glad you included Whizzer as comfortable. Lots of good memories from that coaster. For uncomfortable, Old Revolution was terrible as an individual ride, but I think overall the B&M stand-ups probably win that race. Even going back to Iron Wolf which was my first, they've never been too comfortable to me.
A slight snub on the intamin OTS lab bars here, they’re simply the best in my estimation, zero discomfort or pain especially considering how extreme some of the rides can be with them
Now we need best and worst stations
Yess
Worst station I've ever been in was Corkscrew at Michigans Adventure. Cramped and dull looking
It'll be cool when we eventually get a top air gates list
@@travisburke2582 cant wait
Emperor won’t be on the list.
Someone I know once said "B&M Clamshells are like taking your office chair out for a ride." .. he's not wrong.
Dang, the Zamparla flyer restraints traumatized you so much you repressed their existence from your memory.
Guess you could say that the restraints were mind erasers.
For me Velocicoaster by far. It was so comfortable that I forgot I even had a restraint on me.
I appreciate the shout out @ 1:59. Also, i305 (Panthereon) has the most uncomfortable trains I've ever been on
As someone who's 6'4, arrow loopers in even-numbered rows (odd-numbered rows at least give you enough leg room to slouch forward) are basically medieval torture devices for the shoulders.
Don't try riding Cedar Point's Corkscrew. For some unknown reason, the belts connecting from the restraint to the seat are shorter there. I am about your size and I have ridden all kinds of old Arrows. Not comfortable, but doable. Not on Corkscrew. They couldn't make the belt buckle at all. Next day (or two days later, I don't recall) ant Michigan's Adventure - no problem riding their Corkscrew at all.
And, even though not a coaster, ever tried riding Larson Loops? 😵
@@Colaholiker Those seatbelts are absolutely brutal. I'm 6'3 and barely fit.
Dear god, Tennessee Tornado nearly drove me insane. It was already kind of uncomfortable leaving the station, and during the ride the OSTRs clamped down even more leaving me to uncomfortably hunch to try and not have my shoulders dig into the restraint, and the final brake run was pure agony waiting to get off
@@notdoctorq Corkscrew at Cedar Point is the only classic Arrow coaster with inversions where I had to walk the walk of shame... 😭
I’m 6’5 and the last time I went to Dollywood we were placed in the VERY back row of TN Tornado and the second I sat down I told my brother that this is not a good idea and wanted to get off. Of course it was too late that point and just the small turn around before the main drop made me realize how fucked I was about to be. Those last two loops did me dirty. My shoulders were bruised for days 😅
Thanks for including Whizzer in the most comfortable category! I grew up riding that coaster and it was always great after a long day to just get on Whizzer and basically take a nap. It is literally more comfortable than most of the chairs in my house.
Same here
I grew up with that park and I agree
Phantoms Revenge trains are my absolute favorite. Love the pool noodle lap bar
Same! Phantom is at my home park and i can never get enough of its restraints!
It only has those because they still used the old Arrow chasis trains just put a new body on them and the old chasis had the OTSR system and this was the only thing that worked. If they ended up getting new trains entirely then I’m sure you would not see this setup since no other coaster has them.
I love the lapbar, but there's a bit less legroom than I'd prefer. I'm only 5'7", but it took some experimenting to find a foot and leg position I was happy with.
@ same. Ive ridden it 1322 times at the time of this comment and it never gets old
@@HockeyGUY66871 wow! at the time of this comment it is my most ridden coaster with 293, but your number is far more impressive
Can't forget the Phantom's Revenges (Morgan) "Pool Noodle" restraints👍
Great restraint but for this video mainly about trains those wre just ok
I definitely agree with #1. Griffon/Sheikra and Velocicoaster/Pantheon also have comfortable trains
When I was younger, I hated the B&M hyper restraint BECAUSE of the crazy amount of airtime. I was convinced that was it for me that night lol
Jackrabbit at Kennywood. Old trains, NO lapbar, a seat belt barely buckled, big padded seats.
Amen to B&M clamshells and Millennium Flyers. They’re gifts from the heavens for coaster enthusiasts. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten stapled on either, even as a bigger guy, and the airtime they give is insane.
My worst are the Arrow OSTRs, Tennessee Tornado in particular, after having it clamp down further during the ride and having to uncomfortably hunch and force myself down into my seat to not have my shoulders crushed by the restraint. B&M vests are up there too, not because of lack of airtime for me, but because they all love digging into my collarbone making me slink into my seat to avoid it
B&M clamshell lapbars are just 😘👌
It's a work of art really. The seat is high enough that your feet don't touch the ground and the only restriction is on your lap. Plus, the cars are far enough apart that your view isn't impeded.
@ completely agree. They are absolute perfection. The only other restraint that comes close is the new intamin LSM lap bars, like on pantheon or VC.
As a tall guy, the front car of any arrow that has that massive leg room is awesome, also the trains on phantoms revenge are really comfortable too. Not sure what my least favorite ever is, there’s some that really aren’t good for a anyone over 6ft
As someone who's 190,5cm/6ft 3in I can confirm that there are definitely trains that are simply not made for me/us tall people. I feel like a canned sardine in the RMC box trains for example; I feel completely tucked away and folded over.
Phantom’s Revenge is also SUPER plus-size friendly with that lap bar. KW is my home park but I have a friend from Ohio who is a larger guy and gets a pass here instead of Cedar Fair because of this.
As someone who's 6'5", RMC Ibox trains are the absolute worst, or any coaster with shin guards for that matter. Forget having bruises after a marathon, I get bruises after 1 ride, and 3 or more makes me start bleeding. It sucks because the rides are incredible, but they also feel like they're not built for people above 5'10"
As someone who's 6'3" I already hate the RMC box trains, I can imagine they would be even worse for you. It's almost as if RMC only expects tiny people to ride, which is particularly weird on Untamed, the only RMC Ibox I've ridden up to now, *because we Dutch people are on average the tallest on the planet*
@Thim22Z7 yeah the restraints make sense on something like hakugei because people in Japan are just shorter, but when the majority of your coasters are in the US, idk why they thought to make restraints that don't account for the generally larger people that will ride them.
Surprised to see a list of comfortable restraints without Phantom’s Revenge. In addition to the lap bar being enormously comfortable, it’s also very accommodating for larger riders.
EDIT: I almost forgot to shout out the OG Steel Phantom for one of the least comfortable. Not the train so much as the ride entering the inversions with way too much speed and really ringing your bell. It’s been 25 years and I still haven’t forgotten.
I file Comet at Waldameer under “tough for taller riders”. I’m too tall myself to ride in a seat with my kid and basically had to manspread to fit my knees in.
I've always hated the Premier trains. For example, Tigris. Horrible space, horrible restraints. It just bruises my thighs and leaves me not wanting to ride anything else. Intamin LSM Coasters are the best trains. VelociCoaster is my all-time favorite for its airtime and rerideability. Good ops, good stats, overall a perfect coaster.
Also, the coaster in the thumbnail, I lived there and rode it several times. It was my first coaster as a kid. Now I'm in Florida with way better parks.
Btw, why Cheetah Hunt? They're not really that bad besides the heartline roll.
Cheetah Hunt would be better with lap bars but there's plenty of other Intamin coasters that have worse OTSRs.
I had no issues with Cheetah Hunt. The hard restraints weren't great on Maverick though.
Tigris gotta be the worst train ive ever been on. One time i bonked my elbow/upper arm on the side of the train on the way up the big launch.
And nah, cheetah hunt earned its spot. Restrictive, hard to get in/out, just has an overall bad effect on the ride experience
The faces on the entries are killing me 😂
6:57 its not call manhattan Express anymore, it's called the Big apple coaster, and the cost is 25.00
$25?!
I disagree sky rush old restraints are better u have less lateral braceing which makes u feel more exposed and how u feel like u going to fall out on the turns I have not ride that coaster with that new lapbar I'm sure coaster don't feel the same
But it was called Manhattan express when it had the old trains
@@MaksymWingert-Speedcuber when I was there, some signs just said “Roller Coaster,” some said Manhattan Express, and some said the big Apple coaster, officially it is The Big Apple Coaster tho
I rode that once. I still remember the look the ride operator gave me, that trust me you don't want that. When I rode it there were two options single ride or single day. Single day would pay for itself after the second ride and there was no line. After my one ride, I thanked the operator for saving me some money.
Great video! Yeah i remember when you were on that Australia trip i thought that motorcycle coaster had weird seating. I really enjoyed watching this!
"Looks like it was dropped off by a pickup that same day."😂😂😂😂😂
Agree 100%, buzz bars and clamshells would have been my 1 and 2 also! Just legendary! 🤘
Surprised to see Cannibal wasn't mentioned as a comfortable train experience. This is a ride where you staple yourself for your own self preservation from that first drop. Yet you always feel secure and very comfortable with it's contoured clamshell design. I almost always forget about the shinguards because I don't even feel them. Good design. The trains are quick to load and unload and still feel open and roomy even for a small 4x3 train. Amazing engineering. Also really the first of it's kind from a lesser known engineering firm. Home Run, top notch!
I also heard the trains on Kingda Ka weren't that great either
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I have to agree about B&M hypers having the best trains. Comfy every time! My personal worst would be the trains on Hagrid's. The sidecar seats were so painful because of the way the shinguards made me sit.
The thumbnail is just perfect, perfectly represents the Salem witch trial of 1692, colorized.
Verbolten at BGW needs a mention for comfortable trains.
I'm shocked that the old Arrow trains on Canyon Blaster at Adventure Dome didn't make the cut. Absolutely no padding on the seats + old Arrow over-the-shoulder restraints. That's a recipe for PAIN.
From what I remember, Canyon Blaster is one of the toughest Arrows
@@Southeastern_Thrills I haven't ridden it since 2010 but I really loved it. Don't remember the trains being particularly different from other typical Arrow loopers.
The current Manhattan Express trains are actually the 3rd edition. The first were Togo and the 2nd two were Premier.
I actually really like the Coney Island cyclone trains. You typically can get airtime room with them since they’re at a set position, and the well padded seats causes the ride to be one of the smoothest woodies in the world. Also since there’s no seat dividers you can get some of the strongest laterals of any coaster if you ride alone. Although I’m a short guy so I could see the trains being an issue if you’re tall
I absolutely agree with the new premier rides trains being at no. 1. I hate the skyrocket models because of them
The trains apparently can't handle the extreme forces with launching and spiraling up and down a 420-foot tophat, but the seats on Top Thrill 2 were ridiculously comfortable, and even a big fat guy like me had no problem getting in and out. So on a more normal ride the lightning trains could be really nice.
They re-padded the bar on Magnum a couple of years ago. They used to have electrical tape around them to keep the padding on.
Volares need to be on the uncomfortable list as well. And Thunderbolt at Coney Island, those seats felt like sitting in a booth at a crappy fast food restaurant
I love the restraints on Phantoms Revenge
I want to say as someone who is 6’7 and who’s home park is sfot, shockwave’s restraints are AWFUL for me. My knees are pushed into the padding - if my legs were a big longer, I genuinely would not fit. Even the restraints on Texas Giant are fine compared the shockwave restraints. I love shockwave, but the trains really knock down the experience for someone as tall as I am
#1 should be side friction coasters like leap the dips. Basically just a rolling leather couch with no restraint. just small bar in front of you to hold onto, not even a seatbelt.
Jackrabbit at Kennywood has trains like that - just a grab bar that you slide around to get in the seat. So you get to feel all of the airtime on the double down.
Love the B&M hyper seats and restraint. Used to be my favourite trains till I rode Top Thrill 2! The lap bars are equally as comfortable and if u have room the restraints lock and stay in position the entire ride and they are amazing. Super comfortable seats too. By far the best trains out there for me!
Intamin’s new gen trains are great too. Very similar to Top Thrill 2 however I get stapled easily but they are still comfortable
Every third row on a new Premier coaster is a nightmare to ride. Brutal on the shins.
As much as I love Jersey Devil i cant justify riding it because of those ridiculous restraints. If you are tall, and large you are in for PAIN.
Riding with a date on Whizzer or Jet Star 2 is date goals
I want to throw another uncomfortable one into the mix: The S&S trains on Powder Keg. It's a great coaster and I love it, but seating... nope. First of all, the seats are too close to the floor of the ride vehicle, so that your knees are way higher than your butt. Then, add the weird "swing over and ratchet down" lap bar that S&S also use on their Screaming Swings. Certainly not my favorite seating...
I agree those are super weird
I feel the same way about Premier trains. They are just needlessly cramped. Add comfort collars, and they suck more.
I’m surprised to see the cyclone on the bad list. They are some of my favorite wooden coaster restraints I’ve been in behind Buzz bars.
It was just so crazy cramped for me
@@AirtimeThrills thats fair, most times i have ridden it I was the only one in my row.
My worst experience was by far Pantheon. The ride op literally had to lift himself off the ground to staple me in. And yet, Velicoaster is so free and maybe the best ever, except for buzz bars.
Thunderhead at Dollywood is so nicely padded that it truly changes all the rattling and sashaying that you get on a woody. It was my second favorite at that park.
I was sitting here watching and thinking “After destroying our necks, Swiss Toboggan better have at least made the top three” 😂… low and behold it literally shows them jamming me in there - and you’re like six inches taller than me lol. Never again.
Mako at Seaworld is the most comfortable I’ve experienced
Not gonna lie but I miss Skyrush’s old restraints😂 but Premier ride restraints are the worst. I’m always struggling on Tempesto with the over the head straps that do nothing
I'm glad you mentioned the RMC raptors. I rode my first one this year (Jersey Devil) and my first ride was a nightmare. With my feet out and knees in, my legs started cramping on the lift hill. I was vaguely aware of a decent layout while overcome with pain. I took a 2nd ride and kept my knees directly over my feet when the restraint came down. It didn't feel especially secure, but at least no cramping and the ride was pretty fun.
newgen intamin (pantheon or velocicoaster for the US) are up in the top5 too i would argue...
A best and worse train design would be cool
The worst train I've ever been on was Condor @ Walibi Holland. The first ever SLC.
It even has a never train with a vest, but it came down so hard, by the end my legs were losing circulation.
NAD trains like on Big Dipper at SCBB with the cut out hard seats are brutal when encountering airtime and you rise up and slam down back into those seats 😢
The shoulder belts on Wonder Woman keep sliding off my shoulders!
Can you do Best and Worst coaster operations?
As for uncomfortable, my top pick has to be Schwarzkopf with pull-down Shoulder crushers (i.e. Olympia Looping). I´m fine with the regular Schwarzkopf trains with just the Lap bars, but combine the high forces of Schwarzkopf loops with shoulder restraints that by design are coming down and you have a recipe for shoulder pain the moment you enter the first loop. Your only chance of survival is trying to push the restraint up with at least one hand.
Oh, yeah, heard some awful things about All-American Triple Loop. Although oddly, not so much when the same trains were on Mindbender.
@@ColeYote All American Triple Loops is bad yes. The worst is the headbanging. I got a huge headache on it.
Best thumbnail ever 😂
The Intamin OTSRs are the worst on Kingda Ka because after the crazy launch your thighs would get destroyed by the positive G forces.
RIP 💚🎩
Need to shoutout Pipeline for giving a comfortable standup experience. The surf coaster fixes a lot of the body banging that the standard standup brings.
I personally hate the RMC box trains; I can simply feel they were not made for me as a relatively tall person (190,5cm/6ft 3in).
The restraints in general force me into the train as if I'm a just too large package being forced into a mailbox, but it is especially the shinguards that I despise. For me they sit on my legs in such a way that it feels like I have to snap my shins to sit comfortably (which I obviously can't).
I get that, for me the shinguards can be used to prevent stapling so as long as the op doesnt try to smash you, these trains allow for good air
Surprised you didn't mention the old Arrow trains with their head banging over the shoulder restraints. They were fine for the smaller Arrow loopers in the 70's, but not Arrow's bigger and more intense loopers in the 80's and 90's. Even some of the smaller ones still bash your head against the restraints sometimes.
They’re also torture for taller people, smashing your shoulders into it if the restraint manages to come down more during the ride (which in my case is pretty much guaranteed)
Man, that Intamin Motobike train looks overly complicated and uncomfortable compared to the Zamperla Motocoaster.
I honestly did not understand how to use it before I was shown
I am surprised that you didn't put the old skyrush lap bars as the worst lap bar
It was more about the seating and not the lapbar so i couldnt put it as high
PTC and premiere are in a league of their own uncomfortableness
Video Idea: The coasters of the four corners state (Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah) by the numbers.
Steel Eel has glorious airtime but if the seats had any kind of padding it would be epic
The pain in the ass airtime is what makes steel eel what it is
@ Yes but if it had padding I wouldn’t have to ride defensively and could enjoy those hills more
intamin blitz seats & lap bars are wonderful 😍😍💅😩
To me, the most uncomfortable trains are the ones on Coast Rider at Knott's. Also the old trains on Flashback & the big ball lapbar on Z-Force, both defunct at Six Flags Magic Mountain⛰️So uncomfortable. Ugh
I'm glad you changed the thumbnail. That's hilarious 😂
I can not believe that Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket was even on the comfortable side. For me this is easily number 1 on my most uncomfortable list. I had two rides with my nephew and that was enough. Our name for that coaster is Rip Ride and Rock Your Nuts.
I also want to add the new generation Intamin blitz restraints. Probably some of the best restraints ever made.
"today i feel like whining" got me dying😂
I am so thankful you put Zambezi zinger on this list when I first took my friend on this he absolutely hated it and I don’t disagree this really ruins the ride and it’s insanely uncomfortable and can even be painful at points
Some other bad ones :
SLCs from Vekoma with the big bulky over the shoulder
T3 - worst trains
Rolling thunder at tropic falls.
B&M flyers after riding FLY might be at the level of B&M with vest
Bro, what is that swiss toboggan thing; that looks hillarious. Quite a sacrifice for a coaster credit.
It used to be a very common model of coaster. I think there were reasons it was so common (cheap, small footprint), and some very good reasons why it's _not_ so common anymore. This particular one can be found at the Little Amerricka roadside amusement park in Marshall, Wisconsin--a surprisingly credit-rich park for its tiny size (four coasters), though the coasters there are pretty small themselves.
I really love the modern Intamin trains. I first did them on Red Force and they thought they were good but after recently doing them on Taron for the first time you realise how open and freeing they really are(and it’s impossible to be stapled)
"today, i feel like whining" love it. please do! down for it all
13:10 speaking of overzealous ride ops, on my first visit to canadas wonderland this past summer, the ride ops were crazy rude for no reason. Denying row requests, and by some crazy work, I got stapled on leviathan AND behemoth. Thankfully I got a second ride on leviathan but god they purposely stapled me I swear
I'm a baby thoosie, so so far for me, the worst I've had were the RMC raptors. But I'm 6' and have horrible old man knees and hips (I'm 32 lmao) So the seating position was hard for me to even get into. When I did Wonder Woman at SFMM, I could barely bend my legs the right way to sit down to begin with, and then the ride op came and stapled me in. Not only that, but he somehow got the lap bar just right, so it was making my car keys dig into my legs the whole time. I got off the ride hyped, but with sore hips and a bruised thigh lol. And then I had to sprint to Twisted Colossus before the park closed.
How the F did you not mention Superman at SFNE? Or, the old Vekoma SLC trains? Or T3? Or the worst, most uncomfortable trains of all time, the Volare?!
Little surprised to not see Coast Rider on the worst list with how much crap you've given the shinguards in the past. Also surprised that something managed to beat out Chance Toboggans.
I suppose you've managed to avoid Togo standups to this point, not hard to imagine those are even worse than B&M's. I know there's a couple still operating in Japan, any of them happen to be on the itinerary for your trip?
I remember the trains on Phantoms Revenge were comfy. Huge, almost like riding in a love seat. On the flip side at Kennywood I recall Sky Rocket being the most uncomfortable coaster I’ve been in, causing pain in my legs. I couldn’t get off that train fast enough.
I actually think the RMC Hybrid trains are so awful they give me claustrophobic attacks, and I am not even claustrophobic. I actively avoid riding them after getting the cred
I tend to dismiss complaints about uncomfortable coaster restraints (I seem to have a high tolerance; I think Superman: The Ride is not that bad, and didn't mind the one Premier Sky Rocket II I've ridden, either--granted it had no comfort collars) but I have to admit that B&M hyper clamshells put most of the others I've experienced to shame. I recently saw someone complaining on about them on the grounds that they felt too loose and that was scary!
I tend to think of any kind of lapbar system as luxurious, but I do admit I really had to fold myself into the current trains on Disney World's Space Mountain.
Some of the most uncomfortable trains I've been on include the Kumbak trains that once operated on Python at Efteling and the X-car trains on G-Force at Drayton Manor - even though they are the same type of train as on Rip Ride Rocket, the lap bar would tighten as the ride progressed so that you could barely breathe by the time you hit the brakes.
Glad the raptors made it, that’s the most uncomfortable I’ve been on a coaster
Uncomfortable: Flight of the Hippogriff at Universal Studios Hollywood (it's those shin guards that ruin for me), the current bobsleds on Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland (if you sit in either rows 1, 3, 4, or 6, it isn't too bad; but if you sit in either rows 2 or 5, it is Cramp City). I also agree with bending your knees a bit on those stand-up coasters.
Comfortable: the old 8 man bobsleds on Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland (even with 2 riders per seat, the leg room was great), the chariot car on Tron Lightcycle Run at Magic Kingdom (I was surprised at how comfortable it was), the trains on X2 at Magic Mountain (I seriously thought my head was laying on a pillow the first time I rode it).
The bikes are also confortable on tron but agree on both current matterhorn and flight of the hipogriff too small even for a 5'10 guy whose a lot lighter then i was.
@ I rode the bikes twice on Tron Lightcycle Run and I do agree that they are comfortable too.
Matterhorn is rough, being 6 3 I couldn't get comfortable (my knees were almost at the same level as my shoulders) as the train left the station. Ride operator told me not to worry he would help get me out after the ride and he did.
@@GLJosh I'm 5'8" and unless I'm sitting in either of 4 rows I mentioned, it is uncomfortable for me in the 2 middle rows.
It is awesome that a Cast Member was willing to take the time to help you get out ⭐️.
Id put PTC trains with the lap bar number 2 worst trains. The bar on the side really crushes my legs and the seat divider makes it way worse. Id love PTC to redesign their lapbar into a T bar.
I think you forgot the Volare trains as Uncomfortable
I'm shocked CoastRider isn't on the list. That has to be my number 1. (Number 2 probably being Great American Scream Machine at SFOG though that's been changed apparently?)
8:06 lunch tray lapbars 😂
Magnum is definitely a knee cruncher. I think the trains are what make that coaster one of my least favorites. I've never had an issue with the B&M vest restraints. I actually don't hate standups. Georgia Scorcher is a decent coaster of the model. Vortex has gotten rougher over the years. B&M hypers and gigas are the best! Love those trains! Fury and Thunder Striker are amazing! ❤
Manhatten Express at Number 5 got its trains replaced... with the new Premier trains which you consider the worst OOF
Haha yeah that was a bit of a paradox. Bad for different reasons, the restraint being the main reason over the trains which was the main point of the video
My absolute worst was the first restraints on American Triple Loop. Front seat was ok, little rough, but the back seats were literal punches to the face! My shoulders and face were sore for a couple of weeks! Thank God they removed the over the shoulder restraints and just kept the lapbar, much better. Not great, but better.
Wait a minute! Seriously not Coast Rider at Knotts Berry Farm. That little car, with freaking shin guards on a wild mouse coaster.
I rode a travelling Toboggan in France in 2022. I'm just under 6ft and either I braced okay as other than one moment where I hit my head on the top, it made me think either Little Amerika doesn't take care of Swiss Toboggan or its a little overhated. I still don't know why parks like Hersehypark and Astroworld ever bought them
I actually find the trains for X2 to be super comfortable, same for Viper but I think I'm just the right build for both of them. Or maybe it's because I grew up riding Arrow loopers so there's a certain amount of muscle memory involved.
I'm glad you included Whizzer as comfortable. Lots of good memories from that coaster.
For uncomfortable, Old Revolution was terrible as an individual ride, but I think overall the B&M stand-ups probably win that race. Even going back to Iron Wolf which was my first, they've never been too comfortable to me.
A slight snub on the intamin OTS lab bars here, they’re simply the best in my estimation, zero discomfort or pain especially considering how extreme some of the rides can be with them