Hope you guys enjoyed! I got a little tilted but at the end of the day I got bested... We got a lot of good finn players still owning on the character, and i'm glad to see it. I'm gonna drop another finn vid soon so stay tuned :)
There was one game where you just spammed side b on the last stock, I’m gonna try and find it but I was like “Bro like.. this guy is NOT gonna get hit by this spam. His spacing is too good and his reads are next level.” I thought this guy was overhyped during those first couple of games but NAH he turned on the JETS in those last games. Bro is actually insane as Finn. AND THE FACT HIS 13?!!!
That's some real shit. There was times where I was stuck in the air and I just couldnt rely on suboptimal reads. I just need to play at a higher level ima try to get better for next video
Flacoco just got unholy patience. Griff himself said walking back like he does is op. Everytime Flacoco felt like he couldn't get anything else out of the engagement he backed off charged up a jab. You can also see how he respawns and just stands still waiting for Griff to attack out of boredom. Props to him deadass, after 6k wins I'd 100 percent not have a shred of patience anymore, even now I'm running the f in in all situations
I honestly really appreciate it, I think I just need to work on not putting myself in bad situations. He manages to stay very grounded while still being flexible in the air while I remain kinda floaty
Yo I'm a pretty high level Finn, have basically the same playstyle as flacoco from what I've seen, the reason you get hit by so many jabs is because he's more patient, you gotta wait and try time your dodge through Finn's first jab to go behind and hit em
honestly im not like a top finn player (around 1000 wins so not awful but not like CRAZY) when it comes to mirrors for me I almost treat it like im facing shaggy. stay tf away until you get a chance to ruin the opponent. dash attack is prolly one of my favorite finn moves to mess with people who look for jabs. messes with them a bit because its unexpected a lot of the time. I dont have a ton of wins and im not high rank but I win a large majority of my finn mirrors. being unpredictable can help a lot when youre playing someone who knows your entire skill/move set. that goes for any game
thats true. i wish finn dash attack was a tad more consistent cause even if you use to surprise dittos who stay grounded and abuse jabs, sometimes the hitstun and knockback is all fucked plus theres no guarantee your aerial pressure can kill a good finn
@@vitorsamuel777 true. it really just comes down to mental games in a mirror. they expect you to do certain things, you expect them to do certain things, and then it comes down to whoever lands something first. that's why I think it's best to almost change your playstyle in mirrors, especially if you aren't hitting jabs first
facts, literally dash atk is the only counter to jab fishing playstyles. I need to get better at inputting it super quickly so that I can get punishes consistently
@@lostgriff so many finns play the same way. they know every combo and every possible thing you could throw at em. unpredictability is really the way to go and they arent exactly expecting you to dash attack when they fish for jabs. a lot of your vids have helped me get better at the game so figured id share to the class what has helped me win finn mirrors. does damage and sometimes kills hella early as well (rarely but better than never) keep up the content. my favorite mv channel to watch rn by far
Yeah a really sad conclusion we can gather from this is how Multiversus is 80 percent jabs and 20 percent abusing 3 moves in your kit (bonus points if one of your best moves is jab). Both of you were really merciful by not backpacking the shit out of eachother, love to see it!
You can IAD (Instant Air Dodge) sair and nair after both jabs. You can also do pivot IAD sair/nair/uair i.e pivot IAD sair at 13:41. There's a videos on RUclips that teaches you how to do it. Hope that helps.
You weren't adapting to his reentry strategy where he waits for you to make the first move to counter. He didn't even conceal it very well and you fell for it every time. I'm going to guess it's because the match was stressful for you and you were getting frustrated while playing against him.
from what i see you're constantly on offense trying to find an opening so you overextend a lot and get punished. the times you were patient and looking for mistakes you were able to find those hits you were looking for. so i think finding a balance between being on offense and pressuring and playing more of a neutral/reactionary/bait and punish game would do you wonders and you wouldn't find yourself in those bad situations as often causing you to scramble for better positioning and get opened up more
Sixhundred6ixty6 beat Flacoco 27x in a row and he six is a Finn main. He doesn’t stream or anything I really wish I got to see him play more any way you can face him it’s truly remarkable
Everything you complained about with the jab is why I say finn is top tier, every match is about dealing with the jab you can't run your own game otherwise it's so fucked
Hope you guys enjoyed! I got a little tilted but at the end of the day I got bested... We got a lot of good finn players still owning on the character, and i'm glad to see it. I'm gonna drop another finn vid soon so stay tuned :)
fraudcoco
@@franktownsend3483 u cooked
Flacoco isn't human bro cant believe hes actually a young buck
Veriflied what's your favorite cereal
My cope is youth reflex + youth patience diff
Bro is the future man
@@grittytenacious6004 Idek captain crunch maybe da peanut butter one tho
@@vitorsamuel777Reflexes sure, but young people are not known for their patience 😂
There was one game where you just spammed side b on the last stock, I’m gonna try and find it but I was like “Bro like.. this guy is NOT gonna get hit by this spam. His spacing is too good and his reads are next level.” I thought this guy was overhyped during those first couple of games but NAH he turned on the JETS in those last games. Bro is actually insane as Finn. AND THE FACT HIS 13?!!!
That's some real shit. There was times where I was stuck in the air and I just couldnt rely on suboptimal reads. I just need to play at a higher level ima try to get better for next video
He’s hitting jab more in neutral because his on stage spacing is just better , your reads in general are on par with his he just has better spacing
I think you’re whiffing a little too much
Flacoco just got unholy patience. Griff himself said walking back like he does is op. Everytime Flacoco felt like he couldn't get anything else out of the engagement he backed off charged up a jab. You can also see how he respawns and just stands still waiting for Griff to attack out of boredom. Props to him deadass, after 6k wins I'd 100 percent not have a shred of patience anymore, even now I'm running the f in in all situations
I honestly really appreciate it, I think I just need to work on not putting myself in bad situations. He manages to stay very grounded while still being flexible in the air while I remain kinda floaty
13 year old cooked my goat...
He's been following the channel for a while, I guess i'm unc now
@@lostgriff it's ok bro I respect unc status, you're still my #1 finn
Yo I'm a pretty high level Finn, have basically the same playstyle as flacoco from what I've seen, the reason you get hit by so many jabs is because he's more patient, you gotta wait and try time your dodge through Finn's first jab to go behind and hit em
Like if you notice you were practically always the aggressor, against Finn you just gotta be a lil more passive
Oh and with the dodge read it's hard to leave autopilot but you have enough time to react to dodge in when they do it
Thanks man! Definitely been working on this recently so I appreciate it frfr
honestly im not like a top finn player (around 1000 wins so not awful but not like CRAZY) when it comes to mirrors for me I almost treat it like im facing shaggy. stay tf away until you get a chance to ruin the opponent. dash attack is prolly one of my favorite finn moves to mess with people who look for jabs. messes with them a bit because its unexpected a lot of the time. I dont have a ton of wins and im not high rank but I win a large majority of my finn mirrors. being unpredictable can help a lot when youre playing someone who knows your entire skill/move set. that goes for any game
thats true. i wish finn dash attack was a tad more consistent cause even if you use to surprise dittos who stay grounded and abuse jabs, sometimes the hitstun and knockback is all fucked plus theres no guarantee your aerial pressure can kill a good finn
@@vitorsamuel777 true. it really just comes down to mental games in a mirror. they expect you to do certain things, you expect them to do certain things, and then it comes down to whoever lands something first. that's why I think it's best to almost change your playstyle in mirrors, especially if you aren't hitting jabs first
facts, literally dash atk is the only counter to jab fishing playstyles. I need to get better at inputting it super quickly so that I can get punishes consistently
@@lostgriff so many finns play the same way. they know every combo and every possible thing you could throw at em. unpredictability is really the way to go and they arent exactly expecting you to dash attack when they fish for jabs. a lot of your vids have helped me get better at the game so figured id share to the class what has helped me win finn mirrors. does damage and sometimes kills hella early as well (rarely but better than never) keep up the content. my favorite mv channel to watch rn by far
I rly enjoyed this video, I would love to see a rematch between you two or maybe just you 1v1ing more top players would be great as well
Ofc gteki! I gotchu bro
@@lostgriff thx bro
bro fr you are magnetic to his jabs
He’s dodge baiting you waiting for you to dodge to get you back in the loop lol and good spacing try hitting instead of dodging sometimes
Yeah a really sad conclusion we can gather from this is how Multiversus is 80 percent jabs and 20 percent abusing 3 moves in your kit (bonus points if one of your best moves is jab). Both of you were really merciful by not backpacking the shit out of eachother, love to see it!
@@vitorsamuel777 well this character is very limited lol
Yeah, its just how comp is. He still played great tho and I shouldnt have got as tilted tbh
@@lostgriff Nah dw, most mvs content vs goats ends this way. They just cold as hell while we rage vs any Arya/Jason who backsteps
hey after the two sword tilts how do you do the dash jump thing into the down air or the sair
You can IAD (Instant Air Dodge) sair and nair after both jabs. You can also do pivot IAD sair/nair/uair i.e pivot IAD sair at 13:41. There's a videos on RUclips that teaches you how to do it. Hope that helps.
You weren't adapting to his reentry strategy where he waits for you to make the first move to counter. He didn't even conceal it very well and you fell for it every time. I'm going to guess it's because the match was stressful for you and you were getting frustrated while playing against him.
from what i see you're constantly on offense trying to find an opening so you overextend a lot and get punished. the times you were patient and looking for mistakes you were able to find those hits you were looking for. so i think finding a balance between being on offense and pressuring and playing more of a neutral/reactionary/bait and punish game would do you wonders and you wouldn't find yourself in those bad situations as often causing you to scramble for better positioning and get opened up more
what conditions need to be met in order to get finns teleport/ dash more consistently
You gotta be able to read your opponent. It's a slow but really strong move. It's meant to catch dodges not create true combos
lostgriff please tell me what that movement is how were you guys doing the side jab into the downair so far into the ground
I think it was the instant aerial dodge tech
Hi there, how does one become #1 in the world with no rank? Because im trying to find out exactly how to become that person with Jake .
Ranked comes out tmrw :)
I'm excited for it :)
Sixhundred6ixty6 beat Flacoco 27x in a row and he six is a Finn main. He doesn’t stream or anything I really wish I got to see him play more any way you can face him it’s truly remarkable
who is that?💀
@@Flacoco798is that true? 😂
Bro doesnt even know who it is LMAOOO
@@lostgriff it happened on a stream of 5k people …
Everything you complained about with the jab is why I say finn is top tier, every match is about dealing with the jab you can't run your own game otherwise it's so fucked
He beat you pretty bad I learned a lot from both of you in this mirror match though
Can finally see how gimmick your own character is. Tragedy
The whole game is lol
What happened to Ghopo man just dropped off the planet?
He's a dev now if you didnt hear, he worked on finn and many other characters
@lostgriff I did not, honestly. That's pretty cool.
I 3-0’d him before rank dropped 🤣
Thegoat6189 is him
Maby you need to learn parrying?I dont play often so i could be wrong
Parrying feels inconsistent most of the time its just much safer to dodge
@@tb3099 frl
Parrying got nerfed as well. The only spot where parrying is something safe to recommend is vs grapple spamming Batman or something like that
Once it gets more consistent as an option my parrying is gonna be insane
top 1 player rn is a 13 yr old? 💀
Yeah but the kids a prodigy, been playing plat fighters for like 3-4 yrs straight now at a decent-high level
2nd one